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wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:05:00 -
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the gal/cal warzone is broken
gallente are way better and everyone knows it
almost everyone with a brain joins gallente because they dont want to get steamrolled in a computer game in their free time
there are only a few kinds of people who join caldari 1. idiots 2. farmers (russians/ukrainians doing rmt) 3. corps/alliances who think that "getting pounded = content creation for our members" (test/borg) (see #1) 4. roleplayers (diana kim & ibanez) 5. people who join accidentally, realize it's not fun, and then defect later (baron soontirfail)
sure there is the occasional case of a decent group joining caldari (b2k). but then the gallente cowards start batphoning every single fight
now the forum is like this
gallente forum posters: omg theres nobody for me to gangbang with my huge gallente blob, this is not fun. i try to gangbang the farmers but they just run away or fit warp core stabs wtffffff
caldari forum posters: omg all my buddies were sick of getting gangbanged so they quit FW and now I cant even undock cuz it'll be such a savage gangbang that it makes me depressed even thinking about it wtffffff
TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
180
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:24:00 -
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I think the warzone is great. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2139
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:26:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is all of the Caldari FW players to defect and join JUSTK
Fixed.
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Elnoo
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:49:00 -
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I think it's great also... |
Elnoo
1
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:52:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:[ TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is all of the Gallente FW players to defect and join The BLOC
Fixed.
Fixed it for you X
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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1634
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:11:00 -
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There are certain advantages to being the underdog. It is very easy to find fights. Go to system X. Open a plex and wait. Someone will find you. Because it is so easy to get fights you can also demand your own terms. Got 4 guys an they show up with 20? Blueball. They won't leave their home system? Blueball. They cart links around with them when they roam? You got it- blueball.
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Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
39
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:14:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:wilgotna wrote:TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is all of the Caldari FW players to defect and join JUSTK Fixed.
Hmmm, the chaos is justified right? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
871
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:16:00 -
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Everyone batphones. Only some people get butthurt, e.g OP. |
Silverbackyererse
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:21:00 -
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Contracted O/P a couple of my Fedo's. They give excellent hugs.
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Elnoo
1
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:25:00 -
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In all seriousnessGǪ.
There is nothing wrong with the warzone. The problem is that eve players are just like football enthusiasts. When the team WINS = Great team When the team loses = **** management/coach.
The problem with Caldari is that many people (especially EU players) are less active atm. This can be for a number of reasons such as GÇô better weather = people leave the little square screen and go outside. Students are on holiday and are away from home and are not playing eve. And of course my personal pet peeve - people who canGÇÖt handle losing. They will leave their faction to join the winning faction to feel a sense of self achievement for being on the GÇÿwining sideGÇÖ.
The Gallente did a great job of taking Innia, nobody can deny that. No excuses can be made.
All I can say is The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change.
So maybe not todayGǪ maybe not tomorrowGǪ. Hell, maybe not even this monthGǪ BUT SOON, things will change and The Gallente will have to defend a system themselves. Prolly not InniaGǪ cause I mean, we didn't want that ANYWAY
Again GÇô good fights guys and props on all the hard work. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. |
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SAJUK NIGARRA
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
175
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:58:00 -
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wilgotna wrote: TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies
I tried that, Cal Mil is unbearable. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
251
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Posted - 2014.04.12 15:01:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:wilgotna wrote:TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is all of the FW players to defect and join QCATS or YNOT Fixed.
Fixed your fix. JUSTK doesn't need more pilots.
QCATS is recruiting:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299 |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
477
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Posted - 2014.04.12 15:04:00 -
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I tried, really I did.
I spent almost 26 seconds trying to summon up some interest in this topic, then I got bored and went to dailyotter.org instead. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
156
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Posted - 2014.04.12 15:51:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:Fixed your fix. JUSTK doesn't need more pilots. Yeah, you're probably right. We managed to get about 10% more kills last month than your alliance with about 1/3 less pilots.
Us getting more killers to join up would just make things look even worse... |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
180
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:01:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote:Andre Vauban wrote:Fixed your fix. JUSTK doesn't need more pilots. Yeah, you're probably right. We managed to get about 10% more kills last month than your alliance with about 1/3 less pilots. Us getting more killers to join up would just make things look even worse...
Look at the when BLFOX and QCATS joined the Alliance :p BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
156
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:23:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Veskrashen wrote:Andre Vauban wrote:Fixed your fix. JUSTK doesn't need more pilots. Yeah, you're probably right. We managed to get about 10% more kills last month than your alliance with about 1/3 less pilots. Us getting more killers to join up would just make things look even worse... Look at the when BLFOX and QCATS joined the Alliance :p Edit: QCATS and BLFOX combined had 7765 kills last month, Justk had 5242 ( per zkillboard) That is a hell of a lot of kills for 3 FW corps though, props to all you nasty pvpers
Pfft, whatever. Most of those are duplicates between your two corps, and anyways 90% of your kills are you guys joining JUSTK fleets so you don't fall too far behind |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
180
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:47:00 -
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o/\o BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
712
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:59:00 -
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SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:wilgotna wrote: TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies
I tried that, Cal Mil is unbearable.
People keep saying this. But it can hardly be any worse than Gal comms... High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
40
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:06:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:wilgotna wrote: TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies
I tried that, Cal Mil is unbearable. People keep saying this. But it can hardly be any worse than Gal comms...
Ill invite your spy alt and you will change your mind after 10 seconds. |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
40
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:20:00 -
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The problem with caldari is noobs seem to love to join them. For some reason Caldari is the most popular, yet the worst. Look at the top alliances/corps for gallente vs caldari and it is no comparison.
In my experience, there are only a select few in Caldari that are any good. When they try to organize/teach other players, the Wonderful Caldari players don't listen or don't care. They continue to fail and then leave. The good pilots leave out of frustration.
Been this way for the 3 years I've been in FW. Its only gotten worse since the FW update.
Gallente on the other hand seem to collect all the vets. Noobs don't fail as much and actually listen.
OP is obviously a troll alt, but there are some merit points. Currently Caldari will never win unless they blob. Simply because of skill level.
Simple, the end of the story. Caldari will never be as good because of the noob ***** that farm/stay in high/don't want to learn.
TLDR; screw noobs in Caldari
Signed, Combatevolved Bittervet |
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Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
712
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:45:00 -
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Look, here's the issue;
Gallente: Lots of chiefs. Not enough Indians. Caldari: Lots of Indians. Not enough chiefs.
Solution?
We send some of our chiefs over to you to balance the situation. As a gesture of goodwill, we will send our top two chiefs; Guiynan and Perunga. Free of charge!
So between those two and Mira, you will have very memorable fleet experiences every single day and they will be the anchor of Caldari power for years to come.
Problem solved. You're all welcome. High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
477
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:07:00 -
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As before, both sides lack mustelids.
Grow up and embrace the otter. |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
147
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:28:00 -
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wilgotna wrote: 5. people who join accidentally, realize it's not fun, and then defect later (baron soontirfail)
Awww... I got called out.
The main and defining difference between the two militias is not how experienced they are, it's the attitude of the players.
The attitude of Gal Mil is, "Who cares about killboard stats, I want fights"
The attitude of Cal Mil, "Who cares about fights, I want a good killboard."
As someone who spent about the same time in both militias, this is basically what it boils down to. There's a 4v5 frigate fight about to happen? Galmil will take the fight all the time. Calmil will run from it. CalMil is too worried about dying to take fights, and then when you actually get into a fight, they wonder why GalMil pilots have so much more experience. In CalMil when we would lose a plex fight, people would dock up and log instead of trying to re-ship and trying to fight again. Can you imagine what would have happened to the warzone if we did that during the Test assault of Eha?
TL;DR CalMil needs to start taking all the fights it can get, even if warping into a larger force. (Also, calmil drama is incredibly stupid and dumb) |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2140
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:39:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:The good pilots leave out of frustration.... and join JUSTK. Combatevolved, whenever you're ready. You're not in our public channel for no reason.....
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Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
40
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:48:00 -
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Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:wilgotna wrote: 5. people who join accidentally, realize it's not fun, and then defect later (baron soontirfail)
Awww... I got called out. The main and defining difference between the two militias is not how experienced they are, it's the attitude of the players. The attitude of Gal Mil is, "Who cares about killboard stats, I want fights" The attitude of Cal Mil, "Who cares about fights, I want a good killboard." As someone who spent about the same time in both militias, this is basically what it boils down to. There's a 4v5 frigate fight about to happen? Galmil will take the fight all the time. Calmil will run from it. CalMil is too worried about dying to take fights, and then when you actually get into a fight, they wonder why GalMil pilots have so much more experience. In CalMil when we would lose a plex fight, people would dock up and log instead of trying to re-ship and trying to fight again. Can you imagine what would have happened to the warzone if we did that during the Test assault of Eha? TL;DR CalMil needs to start taking all the fights it can get, even if warping into a larger force. (Also, calmil drama is incredibly stupid and dumb)
Just look at the KB efficiency, if we were worried about that it wouldn't be that bad.
The drama is ridiculous. Waan waan no ones listening to me. IE borg, lets awox. |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
477
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:49:00 -
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Blah blah blah culture wars, blah blah blah.
It's much more clear cut down our way. I get drunk, we kill amarrs, I post otters in local. Amarrs are basically all autistic and generally rubbish.
The warzone turns like the seasons, I drink more beer and find ever cuter mustelid macros while the amarrs flail aspergically into increasing irrelevance.
My little corner of space is largely unaffected by the ones who are meant to be the enemy (#BurnHuola), we get more involved fights out of the local piratey types than the enemy. The warzone is more target rich than it's ever been but the amarr are not an organised part of that environment.
Oh they can beat their chest about their PvP ability, while farming for all they're worth (then get shown up again once the farmer horde switches sides to get more offensive plex action) but in truth we just farm them for cheap kills until one of the more grownup adversaries in the local area puts together a proper fleet then we go and respond to that instead.
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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1635
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Posted - 2014.04.12 20:02:00 -
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Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:Blah blah blah culture wars, blah blah blah.
It's much more clear cut down our way. I get drunk, we kill amarrs, I post otters in local. Amarrs are basically all autistic and generally rubbish.
The warzone turns like the seasons, I drink more beer and find ever cuter mustelid macros while the amarrs flail aspergically into increasing irrelevance.
My little corner of space is largely unaffected by the ones who are meant to be the enemy (#BurnHuola), we get more involved fights out of the local piratey types than the enemy. The warzone is more target rich than it's ever been but the amarr are not an organised part of that environment.
Oh they can beat their chest about their PvP ability, while farming for all they're worth (then get shown up again once the farmer horde switches sides to get more offensive plex action) but in truth we just farm them for cheap kills until one of the more grownup adversaries in the local area puts together a proper fleet then we go and respond to that instead.
Your attempts to get attention and/or garner a reaction have been duly noted. Thank you for your service. |
Taoist Dragon
Sh1t Happens. And then you die.
942
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Posted - 2014.04.12 20:57:00 -
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The gallente generally have a high skill base (player not SP) than the caldari.
The gallente are more of like a few good corps that generally do their own thing but help one another out when the time is need. i.e. to push/defend a home system etc. The Caldari seem to get these power hungry dictators that want to control the ENTIRE militia.
And why would I join Galmil and fight a militia that is fragmented and of low skill when I can join Calmil and get good fights with the Gallente?
Unfortunately all long as calmil keeps getting these power hungry dictators it wlll never really amount to much. It needs a few good corps to go out and do their own thing and capture their own systems. The militia never functions as a whole unit, it just doesn't work, but a few good units working together for pushes/defense will be more effective and will give the noobs a proper guiding group to look up to/listen too. I would have a go but being in the AU TZ is very difficult to 'manage' a developing corp and lets face it when Laney rejoins would just show me up anyways That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
147
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Posted - 2014.04.12 22:01:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:
Just look at the KB efficiency, if we were worried about that it wouldn't be that bad.
Unfortunately, there's a difference between worrying about KB efficiency and actually improving KB efficiency. |
wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
15
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Posted - 2014.04.12 22:18:00 -
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in this thread:
pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo
pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?
noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo
noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun |
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