TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is all of the Caldari FW players to defect and join JUSTK

[ TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is all of the Gallente FW players to defect and join The BLOC

Fixed.

Fixed.

TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies

Fixed.

Fixed your fix. JUSTK doesn't need more pilots.

Yeah, you're probably right. We managed to get about 10% more kills last month than your alliance with about 1/3 less pilots.

Us getting more killers to join up would just make things look even worse...

Look at the when BLFOX and QCATS joined the Alliance :p

Edit: QCATS and BLFOX combined had 7765 kills last month, Justk had 5242 (per zkillboard)

That is a hell of a lot of kills for 3 FW corps though, props to all you nasty pvpers

I tried that, Cal Mil is unbearable.

People keep saying this. But it can hardly be any worse than Gal comms...

5. people who join accidentally, realize it's not fun, and then defect later (baron soontirfail)

The good pilots leave out of frustration....

Awww... I got called out.



The main and defining difference between the two militias is not how experienced they are, it's the attitude of the players.

The attitude of Gal Mil is, "Who cares about killboard stats, I want fights"

The attitude of Cal Mil, "Who cares about fights, I want a good killboard."

As someone who spent about the same time in both militias, this is basically what it boils down to. There's a 4v5 frigate fight about to happen? Galmil will take the fight all the time. Calmil will run from it. CalMil is too worried about dying to take fights, and then when you actually get into a fight, they wonder why GalMil pilots have so much more experience. In CalMil when we would lose a plex fight, people would dock up and log instead of trying to re-ship and trying to fight again. Can you imagine what would have happened to the warzone if we did that during the Test assault of Eha?



TL;DR CalMil needs to start taking all the fights it can get, even if warping into a larger force.
(Also, calmil drama is incredibly stupid and dumb)

Blah blah blah culture wars, blah blah blah.

It's much more clear cut down our way. I get drunk, we kill amarrs, I post otters in local. Amarrs are basically all autistic and generally rubbish.

The warzone turns like the seasons, I drink more beer and find ever cuter mustelid macros while the amarrs flail aspergically into increasing irrelevance.

My little corner of space is largely unaffected by the ones who are meant to be the enemy (#BurnHuola), we get more involved fights out of the local piratey types than the enemy. The warzone is more target rich than it's ever been but the amarr are not an organised part of that environment.

Oh they can beat their chest about their PvP ability, while farming for all they're worth (then get shown up again once the farmer horde switches sides to get more offensive plex action) but in truth we just farm them for cheap kills until one of the more grownup adversaries in the local area puts together a proper fleet then we go and respond to that instead.

Just look at the KB efficiency, if we were worried about that it wouldn't be that bad.

in this thread:

pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo

pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?

noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo

noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun

in this thread:

pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo

pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?

noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo

noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun

in this thread:

pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo

pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?

noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo

noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun

Yeah, you're probably right. We managed to get about 10% more kills last month than your alliance with about 1/3 less pilots.

Us getting more killers to join up would just make things look even worse...

Yeah, most of our pilots are inactive at the moment. It is really hard to recruit pilots with 100M+ SPs, a jump freighter, a dread, and a carrier who prefer to fly frigs and dessies. Anyway, we've been at this for 5+ years though, we'll keep chugging along. The biggest problem is that we've lost #1 recent on BattleClinic in the last few weeks. We've held onto that #1 recent spot for almost 2 years. Screw you guys. :P

Where were you when TEST joined Cal Mil?

Ex gallente pilot: Since moving on from faction war my EVE existence is so boring that complaining about FW on the forums is more entertaining than my extra-FW activities when i log in.

The biggest problem is that we've lost #1 recent on BattleClinic in the last few weeks. We've held onto that #1 recent spot for almost 2 years. Screw you guys. :P

Unfortunately, there's a difference between worrying about KB efficiency and actually improving KB efficiency.

Respect to guys like Gavin, Vick, Mira or whomever over there that has the patience to herd cats on a consistent basis. God knows without you guys, there wouldn't be any content.

And if i was interested in systemgrinding i'd join CFC .

And if i was interested in systemgrinding i'd join CFC .

why should I properly fit my t1 frigate with t1 weapons when you'll just show up witha t2 frigate, t2 weapons, or more people?

How is it suppose to be enjoyable for me to want to try and fight back when the odds are 100% in favor of you winning due to your better equipped ships and more people?

Of course I'm going to fly with stabs, auto-loss isn't fun and the only chance I have at "winning" is to try and not die.

This is a quote taken from one of the numerous "complain about FW" threads that are on this forum.

However none of them offer any realistic solutions that the PLAYERS can implement themselves.

It's one thing for caldari to have more farmers who get "farmed" for kb stats by elitist poofsters like qcats. It's an entirely different thing for an established gallente corp/alliance with good FCs, infrastructure, coordination, and isk to spend to join Caldari and breath some much needed life into the warzone.

This is a quote taken from one of the numerous "complain about FW" threads that are on this forum.

However none of them offer any realistic solutions that the PLAYERS can implement themselves.

It's one thing for caldari to have more farmers who get "farmed" for kb stats by elitist poofsters like qcats. It's an entirely different thing for an established gallente corp/alliance with good FCs, infrastructure, coordination, and isk to spend to join Caldari and breath some much needed life into the warzone.

the gal/cal warzone is broken

gallente are way better and everyone knows it

almost everyone with a brain joins gallente because they dont want to get steamrolled in a computer game in their free time

there are only a few kinds of people who join caldari
1. idiots
2. farmers (russians/ukrainians doing rmt)
3. corps/alliances who think that "getting pounded = content creation for our members" (test/borg) (see #1)
4. roleplayers (diana kim & ibanez)
5. people who join accidentally, realize it's not fun, and then defect later (baron soontirfail)

sure there is the occasional case of a decent group joining caldari (b2k). but then the gallente cowards start batphoning every single fight

now the forum is like this

gallente forum posters: omg theres nobody for me to gangbang with my huge gallente blob, this is not fun. i try to gangbang the farmers but they just run away or fit warp core stabs wtffffff

caldari forum posters: omg all my buddies were sick of getting gangbanged so they quit FW and now I cant even undock cuz it'll be such a savage gangbang that it makes me depressed even thinking about it wtffffff

TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies

People keep saying this. But it can hardly be any worse than Gal comms...

It's an entirely different thing for an established gallente corp/alliance with good FCs, infrastructure, coordination, and isk to spend to join Caldari and breath some much needed life into the warzone.

can always tell who is dumb because they attack/comment on the poster and not the post

This thread is a baseless attack

resting purely on your own opinion and bias

There is no content in your posting to comment on.

can always tell who is dumb because they attack/comment on the poster and not the post

If a post is fail it is the fault of the person who posted it.


Best to go the the root of a problem instead of dealing with the aftermath.

then pis off

your pseudointellectual spew is not wanted here

And puh-weeeeeeaze guys stop claling it sov. it's occupancy! gal/cal have sov, militias handle occupancy.

the gal/cal warzone is broken

gallente are way better and everyone knows it

almost everyone with a brain joins gallente because they dont want to get steamrolled in a computer game in their free time

there are only a few kinds of people who join caldari
1. idiots
2. farmers (russians/ukrainians doing rmt)
3. corps/alliances who think that "getting pounded = content creation for our members" (test/borg) (see #1)
4. roleplayers (diana kim & ibanez)
5. people who join accidentally, realize it's not fun, and then defect later (baron soontirfail)

sure there is the occasional case of a decent group joining caldari (b2k). but then the gallente cowards start batphoning every single fight

now the forum is like this

gallente forum posters: omg theres nobody for me to gangbang with my huge gallente blob, this is not fun. i try to gangbang the farmers but they just run away or fit warp core stabs wtffffff

caldari forum posters: omg all my buddies were sick of getting gangbanged so they quit FW and now I cant even undock cuz it'll be such a savage gangbang that it makes me depressed even thinking about it wtffffff

TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies

Latest iteration of Caldari wasn't too bad. For a good 6 months, they had decent FCs, ran weekly fleets of all sizes (I saw 30 man drake fleet and 40 man AHAC fleet once) and alliances were working together.

But someone on their side decided it was a great idea to split forces and move into Oicx and the resulting loss of that system created a domino effect which eventually resulted in them losing Fortress Innia. One bad strategic move costed them the foundation they had built for 6 months.

If you don't want this to happen again, tell your leaders don't try to grind sov against the Gallente, who are far more organized. Though, as I speak, I'm sure some genius over there is scheming a way to reclaim Innia again....

@ Gavin- I think some of your FCs are too ambitious with constantly trying to do these big 30-40 man gangs all the time. It simply doesn't scale at that level. Shrink your ambitions down to 10-20 and you'll have more fun and get better uniformity.

After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts.

Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

Look, here's the issue;

Gallente: Lots of chiefs. Not enough Indians.
Caldari: Lots of Indians. Not enough chiefs.

Solution?

We send some of our chiefs over to you to balance the situation. As a gesture of goodwill, we will send our top two chiefs; Guiynan and Perunga. Free of charge!

So between those two and Mira, you will have very memorable fleet experiences every single day and they will be the anchor of Caldari power for years to come.

Problem solved. You're all welcome.

Its simple logic GÇô the kid with the nicest toys will have the most friends.
OR
The guy with the hot wife who hates wearing underwear will have more friends over at his house.

eve isnt some disney pixar movie where the morons win through the power of believing in themselves.