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Lazuran
Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Either the setups here are really bad or the basilisk is simply superior? I can get around 400 shield per second out of that.
The setups here are obviously not dedicated shield transfer setups.
Scimitar max is 406.13 shield/s including drones excluding rigs, implants.
isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.23 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Broegitte Bardot Edited by: Broegitte Bardot on 13/07/2007 02:06:34
REV 23x Large S95 transfer thingies 1x recon probe launcher
1x y-s8 AB 1x C-5L Large Shieldbooster 1x Invul II 1x Sensor Booster II 1x Cap Recharger II
4x Cap Power Relays II
4x Med Shield Bots 1x Warrior II (want to be on that killmail ^^)
without the cap recharger juuuuust a bit too little cap for three transfer modules alone (w/ logistics IV). but there's still room for rigs, so...
ALmost identical to mine (Standard launcher instead of Recon) which I use for exploration and support for my corp. I use combat drones though to help with the damage done.
One cap rig, Astrometrics rig. The Astro rig gives me the same scan times as using T1 astrometrics frig but the is considerably tougher and actually helps with the gang. An extra 260 shields/sec really makes a passive drake or Myrmi invulnerable to everything while the range and amount of the larges really help your AFs handle whatever they need to.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
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I Cyno
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Posted - 2007.09.23 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lazuran The setups here are obviously not dedicated shield transfer setups.
Scimitar max is 406.13 shield/s including drones excluding rigs, implants.
Then what is that setup? 
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Marlsia
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Posted - 2007.09.26 08:25:00 -
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High 4x Large Shield Transporters T2
Med Cap Rechargers
Low Cap Rechargers and Power Grid Upgrades.
Drone Bay 4x Med Logistical Shield Drones
Implants Capacitor recharge reduction Capacitor capacity increase.
------- Simple - But depending on your skill Fit T2 capacitor rechargers, reduce the number of rechargers you use until your re-charge rate is around 42-45 secs.
In the empty slots, put in Power Grid upgrades so you can squeeze in that fourth Large Shield Transporter
Set up overview to show pilots in gang/alliance/high standings ONLY, no gates, no neutrals nothing.
Lock all gang members (up to 10) as soon as possible and make sure EVERYONE has auto lock turned off.
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Marlsia
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Posted - 2007.09.26 08:28:00 -
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As for Sniper assist
Med 4x T2 Tracking links, 1x T2 Remote Sensor Booster
Med 2x T2 Tracking Links, 2x T2 Remote Sensor Bosoter, 1x Remote ECCM for closer range work i.e. Auto Cannon support on the gate support
Put in high as many Remote Shield Transporters as you can and in low put cap re-chargers.
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Marlsia
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Posted - 2007.09.26 08:35:00 -
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The Tank
Med Kinetic passive shield hardner 4 Large Shield Extenders
Low x3 Bulkhead , T2 Emergency Damage Control
High Civilian Gatling to cause aggro 
Tactic
Warp to the gate where hostiles are, land within jump range. Aggro a small ship, they all primary you.
With 23,000 shield you should last long enough for aggro timer to wear off and jump through. In the mean time gang members jump/warp in and the fight starts.
Last as long as you can as primary while your gang members do the killing. Let the hostiles shoot you so they are not shooting your gang members. When you can jump out and the hostiles have wasted 2 mins shooting you, while dieing themselves.
A Scimitar makes for a very tasty and not so obviouse bait maybe.
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Marlsia
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Posted - 2007.09.26 08:42:00 -
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The heavy tackler
High 650mm and missile launcher or Nos
Med MWD, T2 Warp Scrambler, T2 Webb, T2 Sensor Booster, Large Shield Extender If in a large fleet, swap the Sensor booster for anotehr T2 Warp Scrambler, you will have plenty of time to lock them down.
Low Nanno Fiber, Stabiliser, Overdrive, Damage Control.
Drones Med T2 Damage stuff
Can hold against another cruiser nicely, kill it slowely and tank damage nicely too. Makes for a very good heavy tackler against Battleships and Battle cruisers
It can move at speed and is agile, in a fleet engagement, Scam and web that Battleship until the fleet get round to killing it.
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Najenna
Minmatar Caldari Deep Space Ventures
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Posted - 2007.11.02 06:49:00 -
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Well I have read some nice setups in here and I must say that all of them are really cool and some are not,So let me share mine if I can have the mic for a sec. 
*** HIGH SLOTS ***
4x Large S95 Shield Transporter
*** MEDIUM SLOTS ***
1x Medium C5-l Shield Booster 1x T2 Invulv Field 1x T2 Kenetic Passive shield Hardener 1x Electrochemical Cap injector/400 cap booster loaded 1x Y-b hydrocarbon afterburner
*** LOW SLOTS ***
3x T2 Power Diags 1x T2 R.C.U.
*** RIGS ***
2x C.C.C. rigs
*** DRONES ***
4x Shield Rep Drones
Now I am sure a few of you are asking W.T.F. are you doing? Well thats a good question, and one not so easly answered. I figured since I am maxed out on all engineering skills ( all Lvl 5) and I am lvl 4 logistics ( Working on lvl 5 ) I figured to go all out shield transporter with a some what medium tank.
I have a cap recharge rate of little under 2 mins but that is why I have 27 400 cap booster in my cargo hold and 2 loaded giveing me a total of 29 400 cap boosters. That is to help with me running tank and supporting. My only fear is being called primary and not haveing anyone to help me if I should come under immediate attck.
I do not wish to be flamed. I share this information in hopes of someone correcting me politely and not to say you suck,quit eve and go play wow, go outside and blow your head off.
I am not a newbie just new to this aspect of the game. Thank you in advanced Once you get this Robotech thing in your blood its there to stay... |

Ruciza
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Posted - 2007.11.02 08:21:00 -
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You know, there are no real experts in logistics around. It's new ground with the recent changes. There is nobody out there who has any right to tell your way sucks. In piloting Logistics, everybody sucks.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.02 08:29:00 -
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i use..
Large Shield transporter (best named) 2x dual 180 II's with barrage 1x malkuth heavy launcher with thunderbolts
Large Extender II 10mn MWD II 2x web II 24km scram
3x overdrive II 1x PDU II
9x warrior II
this setus is cheap, and can hit great speeds, i've already used it to chase down vaga's and double web them, I use it for running in gangs with vaga's and rapiers, where it is ideal for its role, it can keep up with the hac's and recons, and assist vaga's that get webbed or rapiers that get primaried. The scimitar is a very effective pvp ship, not just a standard logistics ship.
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Noemi Aureal
Minmatar British Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.02 08:40:00 -
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I have just reccently got a Scimitar and have started to experiment with my setup. Rightly or wrongly, I prefer being able to run the shield transporters with a sustained cap rather than using cap charges. With my skills at the moment (logistic 4), this is my setup for a small gang.
*HIGHS* 4x medium S95a Shield Transporters
*MIDS* 2x Cap recharger II 2x Large shield extenders II 1x Tracking link
*LOWS* 1x Cap recharger II 1x Nano fiber 2x PDCII
*RIGS* 2x CCC
The shield extenders are there to give me a bit of survivability. This can run the shield transporters all day. When my skills are slightly better in some areas (eg Logistics V), I could drop the cap recharger in the mid slot and replace it with a shield hardener or tracking link, still maintaining my cap.
I know I am using medium shield transporters here, but it can still boost enough for my liking.
In a gang with bigger ships I guess I have to swap to 2x Large transporters and cap boosters.
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Raxlar Kalimar
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Posted - 2007.11.03 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Raxlar Kalimar on 03/11/2007 01:48:52 I have been using it for ages and this is by far the best setup i have found.
2*lg shield transporters (Best Named) 2*Drone Link Augmenters
Mids:
1*10MN MWD. 1*Best Named Med Cap Battery. 2*Best Named Cap Recharger's. 1*T2 Med sheild extender.
Lows:
2*Best Named Cap Relays 1*Nano II 1*OD II
4*Med Shield Drones 1*Small Shield Drone
This will go over 3kps minimum 4kps with a good MWD and skills and run both Large reps with the MWD constantly with good cap skills, logistics 4 and 1 very cheap implant (3% shield transporter efficiency).
Tactics: Orbit the ship your protecting at 65km and watch for faster ships coming after you. I sometimes use T2 light drones to protect against captors. Using this with vegas and Huggins in gang FTW. Have two in gang and your vertually invunerable due to mutual support.
Actually quite a cheap setup too.
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Proxy 13
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.03 02:32:00 -
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you might get primeried before you even locked your fleetmate  but 150% range bonus per lv. um..if you are quick you can survive till your cap runs empty Selling this character |

Raxlar Kalimar
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Posted - 2007.11.03 14:53:00 -
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Really they are best used in pairs for that reason mate and you never uncloak or warp in at the same time as the rest of the fleet. Let the chaos get going before you make your appearance.
The ship can passive tank a Drake at 3kps.
And my cap has never runs out. The regen rate is just rediculus.
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Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:25:00 -
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I've only started playing around with setups and have only tested it helping corp mates in level 4's, but this is my setup so far:
High: 3 T2 Shield Transfers 1 Drone range extender mod
Med: Cap recharger II's
Low: CPR II's
Drone bay: 4 med, 1 small shield maintenance bot
Obviously only good to sit 70km out after someone else has agro, but perma-boosts the heck for shields.
He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things. |

Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.11.07 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Nian Banks on 07/11/2007 20:12:49 I have been mulling over the Scimitar for a while not, had a couple for a while but just can't get over how low its powergrid is, really its a tragedy. Anyway yesterday I discovered the wonders of Deadspace Afterburners, I am quite serious, look at their stats and compare prices on the contract system, yes were talking around 100m-150m isk but they are between 6.75% and 28.88% better base than Tech2. Also I couldn't bring myself to using MWD with its horrible capacitor negatives, Need all the cap I can get. In the end this will be an expensive boat to fly, but hopefully it can avoid death to some extend. A minor tank is fitted, would like more but pg is too tight. Lastly, its made to take advantage of all bonuses. With the up coming sniper nerf (tracking computers), a sniper needs all the boost it can get. NB: No faction listed, use your own initiative.
All Round Scimitar
High 3x Large Shield Transporter II 1x Small Proton Smartbomb II Light/Medium Drone Defense
Medium 2x Tracking Link II 1x 10MN Afterburner II 1x Medium Shield Booster II 1x Medium Shield Extender II
Low 3x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Overdrive Injector System II
Rigs 2x Capacitor Control Circuit I
Drones 3x Warrior II 3x Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II
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Jaraquin Sysco
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:44:00 -
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I'm glad to see there are other Logi pilots out there; I'd started to fear I was the only one! Yay! :D
There are some good configs on here; I wish I weren't at work and could get to my Scimi and mess with it. Before I had a Scimitar, I spent a LOT of time figuring out ways to efficiently fit logistics gear onto non-logistics vessels. Probably my greatest triumph was my Cyclone; I'm probably going to mirror that config onto the Scimitar with adjustments for different slots, etc.
Good info, guys - keep it up! And as far as anyone telling anyone in Logistics that they suck, someone said it correctly when they said that everyone sucks. My char was built, ground-up, from the beginning, to be Fleet Command and Logistics support; I've been flying repping Minmatar ships for a while now, and I still get surprised. I just recently actually got an actual Logistics ship, so I'm I'm kinda' excited about using some of this info. Wheee!!! 
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Hydraxian
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 10:41:00 -
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Ive just picked up a scimitar with 2xpolycarbon rigs, however ive got zilch logistics experience although i do have logistics V and shield emissions V (carrier training ftw).
Can anyone give me any suggestions for a good nano-pvp setup, i suppose my realy question is the use of shield extenders, seeing as one of the main bonus's of logistics ships are there small sig radius's... wouldnt passive shield tanking mess this up?
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