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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.05.12 19:59:00 -
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How wrong is this?
OMG WTF
And she even smokes cigarettes 
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BlackHawk177
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:04:00 -
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O M G ! Wtf is wrong with some people
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Soulis
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:08:00 -
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shhh thats one of the *****s from near where i stay
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Vistilantus on 12/05/2006 20:13:31
Edited by: Vistilantus on 12/05/2006 20:13:10
awww, she'll be on her0in by age 14
glad the "father" is being sent down for statutory r@pe though ^_^
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:15:00 -
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ergh her mom will be grandmother at 34...
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Imran
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:18:00 -
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Uhh
ew.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:20:00 -
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And?
I'm not shocked, appalled or mildly outraged, disgusted or even saddened by this. This doesn't suprise me in the slightest. Hell, I've known people that young who...
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:21:00 -
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scotland is a bit like that... neds are a bit worrying tbh =/
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Calisto Cody
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:25:00 -
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its the baby i feel sorry for..
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:41:00 -
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Imagine if her kid had a kid at age 11. Then her kid had a kid at age 11. And so on. When she hits 33 she'll be a grandmother, when she hits 44 she's be a great grandmother, 55 great great and so on. Zomg, britain ey. Not being harsh here, but 50 quid says that she's a chav
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
scotland is a bit like that... neds are a bit worrying tbh =/
Two years ago it was a Rotherham lass who was pregnant at 11. She named five men as potential fathers, but none of their DNA matched.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:59:00 -
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The girl today told a national newspaper how she was "really excited" to be having a baby. Her mother said she was "proud" of her daughter.
I think that last bit shows how ****** up society is. Anyone who's proud of their kid for getting done at 11 should be shot.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Weeman
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The girl today told a national newspaper how she was "really excited" to be having a baby. Her mother said she was "proud" of her daughter.
I think that last bit shows how ****** up society is. Anyone who's proud of their kid for getting done at 11 should be shot.
In your opinion. Out of interest, what makes your opinion more valid than hers?
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Weeman
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure
Originally by: Weeman
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The girl today told a national newspaper how she was "really excited" to be having a baby. Her mother said she was "proud" of her daughter.
I think that last bit shows how ****** up society is. Anyone who's proud of their kid for getting done at 11 should be shot.
In your opinion. Out of interest, what makes your opinion more valid than hers?
Because youre a pedantic dip****. Like Calisto said, have you even thought about the kid?
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Lord Slater
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye
ergh her mom will be grandmother at 34...
And great grandma at 46 
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Weeman
Originally by: Raven Aure
Originally by: Weeman
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The girl today told a national newspaper how she was "really excited" to be having a baby. Her mother said she was "proud" of her daughter.
I think that last bit shows how ****** up society is. Anyone who's proud of their kid for getting done at 11 should be shot.
In your opinion. Out of interest, what makes your opinion more valid than hers?
Because youre a pedantic dip****. Like Calisto said, have you even thought about the kid?
Yes.
I'm just making a point that we all have different value structures and beliefs. If the girl is really excited, then good on her and she should have all the support possible.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:23:00 -
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The girl fell pregnant aged 11 after having sex with a 15-year-old on a drunken night out with friends in Edinburgh last August. He has been charged with statutory rape.
1. Why did the girl's parents let her stay out all night?
2. Why did the boy's parents let him stay out all night?
3. Why the hell does the 11 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
4. Why the hell does the 15 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
5. Why is the boy being charged with *****when they are both too young to legally have sex?
6. Why is the girl still living with her parents when they have proven completely incapable of looking after her?
7. Why is the mother still allowed to breed?
8. Why does the girl have access to 20 cigarettes a day?
9. Who is supplying the girl with 20 cigarettes a day?
10. Why are they putting the girl through the emotional traumor of having to cope with pubity, school and raising a child?
11. Why is the girl still smoking when pregnant?
God I could go on and on and on. I feel sorry for the girl, hatred for her parents, sadness for the boy, and most of all pity for the unborn child :/
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure
I'm just making a point that we all have different value structures and beliefs.
And you'd generally be right, but this story involves a person - the baby - whose opinion is unknown, and the state, and/or society generally, has a moral duty to consider what's best for the baby.
It's generally accepted that having a 12-year-old mother is not best for them.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 12/05/2006 21:36:43
Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 12/05/2006 21:35:31
Originally by: Sarmaul
1. Why did the girl's parents let her stay out all night?
2. Why did the boy's parents let him stay out all night?
A "drunken night out" probably doesn't mean ALL night. Still, you have a point. But since it's illegal to barricade your child into her bedroom, and it's illegal to assault them, you actually cannot stop them from going out at night, even though it's your responsibility to do so.
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3. Why the hell does the 11 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
4. Why the hell does the 15 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
Legally, they don't. Illegally, it's so easy to get alcohol (or cannabis, or hard drugs, or whatever takes your fancy) that even a six year old wouldn't have a major problem.
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5. Why is the boy being charged with *****when they are both too young to legally have sex?
It's only a crime to have sex with an underage *girl*. This is a crime even if the girl is 15 and the boy is 10. The law dates back to the time when women were property, not people, and didn't have opinions or wills of their own. It's long overdue to be changed.
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6. Why is the girl still living with her parents when they have proven completely incapable of looking after her?
I imagine she won't be, now this story is out. But I could well be wrong; letting your child get pregnant at 11, and drink herself into unconsciousness, and smoke, is not "being incapable of looking after her." Giving her a slap on the shoulder for trying to shack up with a teenage lad, however, is, and would have her taken away from you in zero time flat.
Go figure.
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7. Why is the mother still allowed to breed?
I don't think compulsory sterilization is on the statute books yet. I'm beginning to think it should be.
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8. Why does the girl have access to 20 cigarettes a day?
9. Who is supplying the girl with 20 cigarettes a day?
See (3. and 4.) It'd be a waste of time even trying to find out who is the supplier, because if you jail one supplier, ten more will spring up to fill the gap in the market.
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10. Why are they putting the girl through the emotional traumor of having to cope with pubity, school and raising a child?
Well, you can relax on that one. She'll be spared the "trauma" of going to school and getting an education - who needs one when you're just going to spew out kids for the next ten years and get about a thousand dollars a week in state benefits?
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11. Why is the girl still smoking when pregnant?
It's not illegal. It probably should be - smoking in a place that can affect another person is rapidly becoming outlawed - but we haven't got that yet.
And if you meant - which I don't think you did - why is she being so irresponsible as to do so ... hello? She's 11 and pregnant. Exactly how responsible did you expect.
*edited a filtered word to read "hard drugs"*
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
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The girl fell pregnant aged 11 after having sex with a 15-year-old on a drunken night out with friends in Edinburgh last August. He has been charged with statutory rape.
1. Why did the girl's parents let her stay out all night?
2. Why did the boy's parents let him stay out all night?
either chavs, or saying you're staying somewhere you're really not
Originally by: Sarmaul
3. Why the hell does the 11 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
4. Why the hell does the 15 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
off licenses - though i must admit, 11 is still younger than i'd really expect. I probably wasn't much older when i first got off my face off my own back though - 12 or 13, and i'm a civilised human being... honest.
Originally by: Sarmaul
5. Why is the boy being charged with *****when they are both too young to legally have sex?
So it looks like the police are doing something
Originally by: Sarmaul
6. Why is the girl still living with her parents when they have proven completely incapable of looking after her?
No-one else will take her?
Originally by: Sarmaul
7. Why is the mother still allowed to breed?
Human rights freakos
Originally by: Sarmaul
8. Why does the girl have access to 20 cigarettes a day?
9. Who is supplying the girl with 20 cigarettes a day?
See answer to 3 and 4
Originally by: Sarmaul
10. Why are they putting the girl through the emotional traumor of having to cope with pubity, school and raising a child?
She has a legal obligation to go to school, she didn't have a choice about puberty (as far as i know), and she chose to keep the child
Originally by: Sarmaul
11. Why is the girl still smoking when pregnant?
Stupidity
Originally by: Sarmaul
God I could go on and on and on. I feel sorry for the girl, hatred for her parents, sadness for the boy, and most of all pity for the unborn child :/
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
stuff
sorry, they were more rhetorical questions, designed to illustrate how ****** up the entire situation is. I didn't know about #5 though - another stupid law :/
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
I'm a complete tosser.
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Natsuki
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:43:00 -
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Why is only the boy being charged? they both said they agreed, they should both be charged, or not at all.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Natsuki
Why is only the boy being charged? they both said they agreed, they should both be charged, or not at all.
As pointed out above - it's not a crime for an underage girl to have sex with an underage boy. It's only a crime the other way around.
Outdated laws 4tl.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:53:00 -
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sounds like anothe rmarvel of CHAV society at work.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Raven Aure
I'm just making a point that we all have different value structures and beliefs.
And you'd generally be right, but this story involves a person - the baby - whose opinion is unknown, and the state, and/or society generally, has a moral duty to consider what's best for the baby.
It's generally accepted that having a 12-year-old mother is not best for them.
First off, I have a problem with morals and here's why:
moral# adjective: arising from the sense of right and wrong
Right and wrong implies that someone is making a judgement - in this case state and/or society. Yet for something to be absolutely right or absolutely wrong in all situations, you would have to have an absolute judgement. Your judgement or state/socitey's judgement is based on a point of view. The soon to be mother is basing her feelings on her point of view. I still don't see how a "generally accepted" belief makes something "right" in the absolute. Absolute judgement dicates a supreme being capable of making this judgement in impartiality - traditionally a diety.
I may be wrong but, unless you're a diety, it's just my point of view.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
stuff
sorry, they were more rhetorical questions...
Granted, but non-Brits might actually wonder how it's possible for things like this to happen.
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Tsavong Lah
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Posted - 2006.05.12 22:20:00 -
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I'm glad to see where my income tax will be going for the next 18 years (at least, until the little bastard can claim benefits him/herself).
Bring in means testing and child lisencing tbh.
I hate chavs, I bet the 34-year-old mother of six has barely worked a day in her ******* useless waste of a life, she's just a deep black plughole where money goes that could be used to improve life for those who deserve it.
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Jack Amarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 22:34:00 -
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raven, people find it wrong morraly bmainly because this sort of thing is illegal! thats right your not allowed to make a kid pregnant, its just not legal! also the 11 year old girl doesn'r obviously understand the responsability of having a baby and the sheer impossibility or raising it correctly at the age of 11, i can bet that this girls mum will be left to look after it, and it will most likely lead the same sort of life as its mother. a baby needs to be brough up in a stable home in a stable situation, being raised by someone who isn't even in there teens, is NOT stable. the only person who will suffer the most is the baby.
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.05.12 22:43:00 -
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meh abortion 4tw or sell the baby and make some cash jeez 
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.05.12 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nira Li
meh abortion 4tw or sell the baby and make some cash jeez
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