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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.12 22:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Jack Amarr
raven, people find it wrong morraly bmainly because this sort of thing is illegal! thats right your not allowed to make a kid pregnant, its just not legal! also the 11 year old girl doesn'r obviously understand the responsability of having a baby and the sheer impossibility or raising it correctly at the age of 11, i can bet that this girls mum will be left to look after it, and it will most likely lead the same sort of life as its mother. a baby needs to be brough up in a stable home in a stable situation, being raised by someone who isn't even in there teens, is NOT stable. the only person who will suffer the most is the baby.
So what you're saying is that the law is the absolute judgement from which we should define our morals?
And again, it is your opinion that the 11 year old does not understand. I can't stress this point enough, you're making assumptions about the person here. Probability may be in your favour, but it's an assumption none the less.
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure
Originally by: Jack Amarr
raven, people find it wrong morraly bmainly because this sort of thing is illegal! thats right your not allowed to make a kid pregnant, its just not legal! also the 11 year old girl doesn'r obviously understand the responsability of having a baby and the sheer impossibility or raising it correctly at the age of 11, i can bet that this girls mum will be left to look after it, and it will most likely lead the same sort of life as its mother. a baby needs to be brough up in a stable home in a stable situation, being raised by someone who isn't even in there teens, is NOT stable. the only person who will suffer the most is the baby.
So what you're saying is that the law is the absolute judgement from which we should define our morals?
And again, it is your opinion that the 11 year old does not understand. I can't stress this point enough, you're making assumptions about the person here. Probability may be in your favour, but it's an assumption none the less.
who cares whos right? it's discusting and wtf was the 15 year old thinking? "Oh a child!" *BOING* 
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Imagine if her kid had a kid at age 11. Then her kid had a kid at age 11. And so on. When she hits 33 she'll be a grandmother, when she hits 44 she's be a great grandmother, 55 great great and so on. Zomg, britain ey. Not being harsh here, but 50 quid says that she's a chav
The youngest grandmother was 17.
She gave birth at 8 1/2 years old and then so did her daughter.
If you want to belive it.
I have a feeling most of this info is real 
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Border201
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Sarmual
5. Why is the boy being charged with *****when they are both too young to legally have sex?
It's only a crime to have sex with an underage *girl*. This is a crime even if the girl is 15 and the boy is 10. The law dates back to the time when women were property, not people, and didn't have opinions or wills of their own. It's long overdue to be changed.
Then I have to ask following that logic why is a 24 year old teacher (female) being charged with the same crime? She slept with a 15 year old boy. (this is in the states FYI)
Also before anyone else freaks out I can one up this in 2 ways. First is While I was in the ER (long story don't ask) There where two 22 year olds (I asked as I'm 21 after all  ) when I asked what they were doing here they told me that they were here to lend there 11 YEAR OLD daughters moral support while they were in labor. Thats right folks I ended up talking to 2 soon to be 22 year old grandmothers!!!
And lastly I have a soon to be 2 year old Great-nephew. Note my age: 21 now the first question is WTF the second is am I fully related? Answer Nope he's technically my Half Great-Nephew but I don't care I'm brimming with pride none the less!!!
PS I will make a post annouceing his 2nd birthday 
Originally by: Tuxford
I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Border201
Then I have to ask following that logic why is a 24 year old teacher (female) being charged with the same crime? She slept with a 15 year old boy. (this is in the states FYI)
In the states, they have a sensible law. Sex with anybody underage is statutory rape.
In England, an adult woman who seduces an underage boy can be prosecuted for indecency, but not for statutory rape. It's clearly illogical, but the law has not yet been changed.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:47:00 -
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Are you all still surprise to read this? Think if you look around, fashion companies are already selling mature clothings to 10 years old. Think children are "made" more mature these days. I wouldnt be surprised that 5 years from now, 7 years old will be wearing mini-skirts.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I wouldnt be surprised that 5 years from now, 7 years old will be wearing mini-skirts.
I can see that already.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Are you all still surprise to read this? Think if you look around, fashion companies are already selling mature clothings to 10 years old. Think children are "made" more mature these days. I wouldnt be surprised that 5 years from now, 7 years old will be wearing mini-skirts.
That I've already seen. And in a Pizza Hut no less.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nira Li
who cares whos right? it's discusting and wtf was the 15 year old thinking? "Oh a child!" *BOING*
I have, in my album, a photograph of my cousin Katharine sitting on my knee, at a family party. When I showed it around work, they all congratulated me on my snaring such a hot new girlfriend. Guesses of her age varied from 17 up to 21 ... I was 25 at the time.
She was two weeks past her tenth birthday the day that was taken. It's not always obvious how young these girls are.
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Border201
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Nira Li
who cares whos right? it's discusting and wtf was the 15 year old thinking? "Oh a child!" *BOING*
I have, in my album, a photograph of my cousin Katharine sitting on my knee, at a family party. When I showed it around work, they all congratulated me on my snaring such a hot new girlfriend. Guesses of her age varied from 17 up to 21 ... I was 25 at the time.
She was two weeks past her tenth birthday the day that was taken. It's not always obvious how young these girls are.
QFT I have run in to my fair share of Jailbait thats for sure
Originally by: Tuxford
I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Border201
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Border201
Then I have to ask following that logic why is a 24 year old teacher (female) being charged with the same crime? She slept with a 15 year old boy. (this is in the states FYI)
In the states, they have a sensible law. Sex with anybody underage is statutory rape.
In England, an adult woman who seduces an underage boy can be prosecuted for indecency, but not for statutory rape. It's clearly illogical, but the law has not yet been changed.
Who says it's sensible that Teacher is HOT!
Originally by: Tuxford
I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.05.13 00:22:00 -
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So bizarre, I don't know where to begin...I mean...in America (particularly Miami), such a thing isn't uncommon, but reading the interview with the girl...something about what she says is oddly surreal.
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Tarquin Tarquinius
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Posted - 2006.05.13 00:50:00 -
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I read about this in another forum. The baby is gonna come out deformed because of her chain smoking IMO.
"I can give up smoking at any time, but I don't find it affects my pregnancy. I also don't drink any more."
This girl is so stupid. The baby should be taken away from her ASAP. Her moms children too. (she lets her 11 year old drink, smoke, and have sex after all)
FYI: The record here in the States is 9. A nine year old Mexican immigrant was raped by her uncle.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.13 01:30:00 -
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That entire family needs to be chlorinated out of the gene pool.
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Negative Nancy
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Posted - 2006.05.13 03:08:00 -
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Regarding the 20something teacher. Think back to when you were that young...if you had a smokin' hot teacher like that wouldn't you fantasize about her non-stop? Would it not be your dream to nail her?
I just feel bad for the woman's husband...his smokin' hot bombshell of a wife cheated on him with a 13 year old...
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Tsavong Lah
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Posted - 2006.05.13 03:51:00 -
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note to self - on taking over world, sterilise all persons who are like this babymum.
Death is the loss of hope, everything else is merely despair.
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Tsavong Lah
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Posted - 2006.05.13 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nira Li
or sell the baby and make some cash
omg awesome idea..
but hloy shiot almost lost a temp due to ebing semi-afk writing this post lololol
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Eight8Eight
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Posted - 2006.05.13 07:22:00 -
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How come stupid people always find a way to pro-create.
That's just stupid
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Tomsudy
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
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The girl fell pregnant aged 11 after having sex with a 15-year-old on a drunken night out with friends in Edinburgh last August. He has been charged with statutory rape.
1. Why did the girl's parents let her stay out all night?
2. Why did the boy's parents let him stay out all night?
3. Why the hell does the 11 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
4. Why the hell does the 15 year old have access to alcohol outside of the home?
5. Why is the boy being charged with *****when they are both too young to legally have sex?
6. Why is the girl still living with her parents when they have proven completely incapable of looking after her?
7. Why is the mother still allowed to breed?
8. Why does the girl have access to 20 cigarettes a day?
9. Who is supplying the girl with 20 cigarettes a day?
10. Why are they putting the girl through the emotional traumor of having to cope with pubity, school and raising a child?
11. Why is the girl still smoking when pregnant?
God I could go on and on and on. I feel sorry for the girl, hatred for her parents, sadness for the boy, and most of all pity for the unborn child :/
sickening isnt it....
i am the same age as the guy im just wondering what in the hell is he doing with an 11 year old.....
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:25:00 -
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I hate to say this but like Raven Azure im not suprised in the slightest way..
This has been happening all over the world for a while now, Its atleast somewhat good that people are now aware of it.
I hear stories how rich adults go to third world countries to have sex with preteens all the time.
But media very rarely says anything about it, because not many people care and mainly most people just dont want to know.
Its of course disgusting and I hope they burn in hell for it, but not much can be done sadly.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tomsudy
i am the same age as the guy im just wondering what in the hell is he doing with an 11 year old.....
if you're 15, you should know what he was doing...
trust me, you're never gonna know why though 
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Fuglife
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Imagine if her kid had a kid at age 11. Then her kid had a kid at age 11. And so on. When she hits 33 she'll be a grandmother, when she hits 44 she's be a great grandmother, 55 great great and so on. Zomg, britain ey. Not being harsh here, but 50 quid says that she's a chav
No she would be a grandmother at 22, and i read that this actaully happened.
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: DeadRow on 13/05/2006 11:57:20
Originally by: Sarmaul
God I could go on and on and on. I feel sorry for the girl, hatred for her parents, sadness for the boy, and most of all pity for the unborn child :/
TBH i feel no pity towards the girl- it was her decision to go ahve sex now she can live with whats happened.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: DeadRow
Edited by: DeadRow on 13/05/2006 11:57:20
Originally by: Sarmaul
God I could go on and on and on. I feel sorry for the girl, hatred for her parents, sadness for the boy, and most of all pity for the unborn child :/
TBH i feel no pity towards the girl- it was her decision to go ahve sex now she can live with whats happened.
come off it, she's 11 years old ffs and by the looks of it she is mearly mirroring the actions of her mother.
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: DeadRow
Edited by: DeadRow on 13/05/2006 11:57:20
Originally by: Sarmaul
God I could go on and on and on. I feel sorry for the girl, hatred for her parents, sadness for the boy, and most of all pity for the unborn child :/
TBH i feel no pity towards the girl- it was her decision to go ahve sex now she can live with whats happened.
come off it, she's 11 years old ffs and by the looks of it she is mearly mirroring the actions of her mother.
Of course its not entirely her fault- but shes hardly innocent either. but imo the mother is just plain wrong letting her 11year stay out (if she knew of course) and being proud of her 11year old having a baby
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:41:00 -
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Psychopat
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:14:00 -
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WTF is a chav ?
MoooooÖ
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:43:00 -
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just to clear something up cos of misquotatin fromt he article... im not sure what the linked one is but i read the original one and the mother did not say she was "proud" of the situatino the girl had gotten herself into... i dont think any mother would..
but the monther of the girl said she proud of the way the girl was dealing with it and how she is willing to live with the consequences and the way she refuses to abort the child or put it up for adoption.
Not that i agree with this situatino in any way but you cant fault the mother for that statement imo.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.13 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Raven Aure on 13/05/2006 14:03:44
Originally by: Psychopat
WTF is a chav ?
Some wholesome linkage for you.
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
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Cherry popped! ~kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.13 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 13/05/2006 14:18:04
Originally by: Raven Aure
Edited by: Raven Aure on 13/05/2006 14:03:44
Originally by: Psychopat
WTF is a chav ?
Some wholesome linkage for you.
So it's basically the equal to "white trash" or "trailer trash" in the US
Good to know
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