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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:58:00 -
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Dearest CCP.
I like EvE but I feel that EvE can be improved a little bit more so every time when I kill/pod somebody, I can feel happy and vice versa. Lately, I can no longer find the thrill of killing anymore. That is why I am going to suggest a small change in killmails for pods.
Can we have a display of what kind of implants are destroyed every time when someone is podded please? I am sure this will bring back fond memories of podding someone in the future. I am sure it will bring back the love in PvP for me. It goes both ways. If I get podded in those +5s, I will be very sad and have a podmail to remind me of the event. If I pod people in those +5s, I will also save the mail to cherish the moment forever.
Please CCP, make my wish come true.
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Obmud
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:02:00 -
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Obmud Are you serious ?
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:03:00 -
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Not a fan, dont see the point... It just gives smackers a reason to go "LOLZ he siad tht he had no implantz!!!! z0mg lolz!" and the like, and I just dont see the need for it.
*shrug*
Izo Azlion, Clan Wolf.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 13/05/2006 12:04:54
Originally by: Izo Azlion Not a fan, dont see the point... It just gives smackers a reason to go "LOLZ he siad tht he had no implantz!!!! z0mg lolz!" and the like, and I just dont see the need for it.
*shrug*
It is also a good indication of how much have I damaged my enemies. It also serves as a trophy value. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Corporate Consultation Services
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:06:00 -
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Implants are supposed to be listed on deathmails, a bug is currently preventing it and according to the devs the ug is fairly low on the priority list. It will however be fixed some day... -----
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TekRa
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:07:00 -
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hey, they could also add a sound when you pod someone with +5's too!
BOOM! Headshot!

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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:08:00 -
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Sounds a bit sad really, getting you kicks reading what you destroyed.....
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Implants are supposed to be listed on deathmails, a bug is currently preventing it and according to the devs the ug is fairly low on the priority list. It will however be fixed some day...
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 13/05/2006 12:04:54
Originally by: Izo Azlion Not a fan, dont see the point... It just gives smackers a reason to go "LOLZ he siad tht he had no implantz!!!! z0mg lolz!" and the like, and I just dont see the need for it.
*shrug*
It is also a good indication of how much have I damaged my enemies. It also serves as a trophy value.
Chances are it will make the podkilling more enjoyable, so im with you on this one.
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:09:00 -
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So you can say "Hey look how much I owned this guy for, poor ****er had a full set of +5's and some of the best hardwirings, and all I got for it was a small Evemail."
You cannot use the information for anything other than gloating, your just simply annoying someone by podding them - i have no problem with podding - and rubbing it in by having them know that you know what they lost. *almost confused myself there*
Its just pointless. Destroyed items on a ship killmail show you what you missed out on, and it gives the pilot the happiness that you didnt get the items that he treasured best, if they did actually get destroyed... You cannot salvage from a podkill, therefore it is not profitable.
Izo Azlion, Clan Wolf.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Sounds a bit sad really, getting you kicks reading what you destroyed.....
and getting destroyed.  ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Corporate Consultation Services
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Izo Azlion ...
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Obmud Are you serious ?
Yes.
/signed, been wanting this for ages.
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Volatar
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:14:00 -
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I sooooooo am with Jenny here
/signed
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Izo Azlion ...
Are you using +5s and all those expensive hardwirings?
No, it was merely an example. I do use implants, but no, not got the wealth for it, honestly.
Whats that got to do with the matter at hand? The issue doesnt concern just you and me, I'm trying to describe it as something that would be experianced all over the Universe, be it from some poor guy losing his first +1's, or some age old player losing their Full Crystal set.
Izo Azlion, Clan Wolf.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Izo Azlion or some age old player losing their Full Crystal set.
If he does, wouldnt you want to know?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Izo Azlion
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Izo Azlion ...
Are you using +5s and all those expensive hardwirings?
No, it was merely an example. I do use implants, but no, not got the wealth for it, honestly.
Whats that got to do with the matter at hand? The issue doesnt concern just you and me, I'm trying to describe it as something that would be experianced all over the Universe, be it from some poor guy losing his first +1's, or some age old player losing their Full Crystal set.
This has a strategic impact. If I have already identified my targets are using +5s all the time. The next time I see them in my area, they WILL NEED to be destroyed. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Corporate Consultation Services
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Izo Azlion on 13/05/2006 12:25:29
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Izo Azlion or some age old player losing their Full Crystal set.
If he does, wouldnt you want to know?
I couldnt care, honestly, though I rarely pod people. Either I like my sec status too much, preventing me in Empire, or I dont catch them often in 0.0.
That said, to find out I'd got it, and done however many millions of damage, great. But often, the people with the big implants are the ones in the big ships, too. I'm more for the battle and the killmail of the ship, than something that says I can shoot a small Jovian egg to pieces.
Edit; Jenny, if destroying pods and implants is as high one your list as destroying POS' and taking space, thats fine, its simply not on mine, and I dont need the killmail on a pod to tell me what they lost, because god knows how annoying it is to have lost them, and how little satisfaction I personally get from knowing what they've lost...
I'm much, much more satisfied with the loot I get. The true profit, thats what counts for me, personally.
Izo Azlion, Clan Wolf.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:23:00 -
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I agree.
Why the heck not?
I'd really like to see which enemies of mine use implants, so I can know which to go out of my way to pod .
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 13/05/2006 12:43:38 The 'old' see how much i hurt my enemys...
Yeah riiight, that ones about as transparent as it gets tbh
I would realy love to see the effect on player numbers/pvp'ers in eve were kill mails to be removed all together....
It reminds me of the old counterstrike/tfc one... they never would remove the frags table (belive me...i called for it often enough..... even though i was 9 times out 10 at the top of it).. Though ofc just about the whole of both communitys told you they played the games for the incredible teamwork involved
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betazero
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:53:00 -
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dear CCP, can we also get a "quit mail" , the mail would be delivered to the last person to pod kill the player that is cancelling there account.
it coule be something like "Congratulation's! griefer you are more than likely the reason the account with these characters ***** ,***** & ***** has just cancelled there acount as you were the last person to kill ****** Concord have issued you with a one off payment of 1,000,000,000 isk for your honourable deed"
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Flyer11
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Dearest CCP.
I like EvE but I feel that EvE can be improved a little bit more so every time when I kill/pod somebody, I can feel happy and vice versa. Lately, I can no longer find the thrill of killing anymore. That is why I am going to suggest a small change in killmails for pods.
Can we have a display of what kind of implants are destroyed every time when someone is podded please? I am sure this will bring back fond memories of podding someone in the future. I am sure it will bring back the love in PvP for me. It goes both ways. If I get podded in those +5s, I will be very sad and have a podmail to remind me of the event. If I pod people in those +5s, I will also save the mail to cherish the moment forever.
Please CCP, make my wish come true.
<3 PvP.
QUALITY IDEA!!!!
victim - silly pilot name corp - silly corp name alliance - silly alliance name
inplants destroyed
Crystal set
*falls off chair laughing* silly player sould of paid the POD ransom when he said he had no inplants it's a great idea Flyer11 SHINRA Member
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: betazero dear CCP, can we also get a "quit mail" , the mail would be delivered to the last person to pod kill the player that is cancelling there account.
it coule be something like "Congratulation's! griefer you are more than likely the reason the account with these characters ***** ,***** & ***** has just cancelled there acount as you were the last person to kill ****** Concord have issued you with a one off payment of 1,000,000,000 isk for your honourable deed"
How can this suggestion be griefing? I am not asking for Perma-death. Hmmmmm... thinks about Perma-death.  ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Corporate Consultation Services
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:08:00 -
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You actually play Eve? I thought you just spammed the forums allday 
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
It is also a good indication of how much have I damaged my enemies. It also serves as a trophy value.
It's an even better estimation of how much of your "fun" in PvP is derived from how much it hurts for others when they die. Which I think is totally wrong. Kill others fine, but base it on your entertainment, or ISK made, not how much the other guy is hurt.
Dangerous close to grief play if you solely take fun in how much grief you cause others.
So, NO, I dont agree. Lets keep killmails as they are. The killer has no way of knowing what was in your head (in character speaking), and out of character it would only improve the game for those who take enjoyment from how much they hurt others. You know: GRIEFERS.... 
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho You actually play Eve? I thought you just spammed the forums allday 
I multi-task very efficiently. PvP is only 10 minutes. Hunting for targets allows me to post in forums. 
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betazero
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:15:00 -
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Quote: How can this suggestion be griefing? I am not asking for Perma-death. Hmmmmm... thinks about Perma-death. Embarassed
well in a way you just want to know how much grief have you caused the player that you just pod killed
look up grief in the dictionary :D the part about anguish seems to suit you gameplay style 
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:15:00 -
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Jack Bauer would agree to this thread.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Guth
It's an even better estimation of how much of your "fun" in PvP is derived from how much it hurts for others when they die. Which I think is totally wrong. Kill others fine, but base it on your entertainment, or ISK made, not how much the other guy is hurt.
Dangerous close to grief play if you solely take fun in how much grief you cause others.
So, NO, I dont agree. Lets keep killmails as they are. The killer has no way of knowing what was in your head (in character speaking), and out of character it would only improve the game for those who take enjoyment from how much they hurt others. You know: GRIEFERS.... 
OK, assuming your argument is valid. What is the difference between a killmail and a podmail? When I see billions of ISKs go down into the drain in a killmail, I am already happy to know I have damaged my enemies enough. If I do that five times, I might not see them coming to my space for a while.
With podmails, I have more determination and goal to seek out and destroy my enemies if they come into my space. Like I said earlier, strategically if I know my enemies do use expensive implants, I will find means of actively hunting them down and destroy them. No logoff logon tactics will douse the fiery desires of destroying them.
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