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Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:53:00 -
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Hello all, I'm rather new to Eve but in my short time here, I have found that there are a decent amount of people who invite other players to duel but to no avail. I myself have invited several people to dual and been unsuccessful in getting an accept from the other party. I was thinking, why not have an area where people could go to just hang out around where all/most of the people there also want to duel.
So i wanted to ask the community if having a corporation (i was thinking of starting one for this) set up shop in a location and offering a sort of gladiatorial combat area for other players to come and hang out or duel would be a thing some people wanted. I'm sure you are wondering among other things why a corporation would be needed for this. Well the truth is you really don't, but as most people in this game I want ISK. Considering that these are a list of "services" the corporation would offer.
- Dueling prize money(i.e. two parties give an entrance fee, one winner of the duel gets the pot minus a percentage)
- Allow bidding on such activities (people watch a duel and place bets on the winner, winner(s) split the pot minus a percentage)
- tournaments with prizes
Now obviously there would be rules in place, such as but not limited too:
- If you warp out or for any reason leave the dueling area designated you will forfeit the match
- If you cheat in any way you will forfeit (cheating? like i said rather new so not sure about that one)
- the losers wreck is (obviously) open for the winner to inspect and take what they want
- Winnings will only be received upon destruction of the persons ship (not their capsule although if you wish to kill it, fine)
- Winnings will only be handed out to those who pay the entrance fee (so don't start a random duel then ask for your money)
- bets can only be placed on one ship at a time (to keep this simple and easy to deal with)
Now obviously, these are just some rough details but I really like this idea and just wanted to know if people wanted it/ would actually participate. I'm open for constructive criticism and ideas. Talk to me here or in game if you wish to join me in creating this or just want to play with my noob self.
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masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:54:00 -
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This thread is going places. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4547
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:56:00 -
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I would refer the OP to the concept of Herding Cats
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
34
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:57:00 -
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We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. |

masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:59:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police.
Lo sec. Null sec. WH space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqrm6pOQsgQ Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:01:00 -
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Pretty sure the closest thing to a dueling area is FW sites |

Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
411
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:09:00 -
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I'm surprised RvB hasn't set up something like this already. [/sarcasm] |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
93
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:11:00 -
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Lowsec has gate guns. And SCARY pirates. With gatecamps in every gate. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1396
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:13:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec.  |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12161
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:13:00 -
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We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
34
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:13:00 -
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No. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
587
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:15:00 -
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The problem with dueling is its not some sort of honorable 1v1 combat, people cheat and justify it as "well it's EVE what do you expect" :D
The "Eve Tutors" channel ran moderated (as in, if you cheated or pod killed you could no longer enter) duel competitions with prizes last year but they have not done that for a while. |

CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
34
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:15:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec.  But where would they go? |

Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1006
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:20:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Despite the title, OP is not asking for changes to the game, but rather seeing if anyone would be interested in their services. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
587
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:22:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Despite the title, OP is not asking for changes to the game, but rather seeing if anyone would be interested in their services.
Yeah, as i said the Eve Tutors channel did exactly this and I gather it worked but eventually got too much effort to organise. |

I'm So Pretty
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:26:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Your trolls are usually hilarious. On occasion though, you decide to post before actually reading the thread and end up looking more stupid than funny.  |

Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
1
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:35:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Yeah, as i said the Eve Tutors channel did exactly this and I gather it worked but eventually got too much effort to organise.
Well, I'd be up to organize it constantly, as a corporation you could have shifts of people in charge of taking bets and entrance fees. but I am only one person atm, and although I'm sure someone will just take this idea and start it on their own I am open to people wanting to join me. also In reference to your previous comment about the "cheating", although I'm unsure of the details I'm at an understanding that anyone inside the duel can invite anyone else (possibly a friend) into the duel. this would obviously be against the rules and that person would forfeit the winnings. now if someone cheats or is otherwise disqualified from a duel on more than one occasion they would be banned from entering into a duel for a period of time. (this would be a sanctioned duel, not asking for a game change obviously) |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20805
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:38:00 -
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No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
Also, F&I GåÆ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Amyclas Amatin
xX-Crusader-Xx Li3 Federation
229
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:39:00 -
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Suddenly neutral logi, OGBs and not-quite 1 v 1. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4756
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:42:00 -
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There are countless threads asking for "arenas".
None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US?  Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:43:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? 
Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:49:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US?  Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox.
In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.) |

masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:51:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US?  Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox. In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.)
Running an arena business in-EVE is fine and you already have all the tools you need. However, I posted that because some people want easy-mode Arenas that have game mechanics enforcing their honor code. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4756
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:52:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US?  Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox. In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.)
Can fighting be done inside of a POS shield?
Ah... but if that was the solution, OGB would have to be impossible through a POS shield... or is it? I recall some torrents of tears over that topic roughly a year ago.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12162
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:52:00 -
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I'm So Pretty wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Your trolls are usually hilarious. On occasion though, you decide to post before actually reading the thread and end up looking more stupid than funny. 
So your saying that you are unable to provide the Eve community with the above requests as well? Well..your services seem rather limited then. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
1
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area.
Edit: this "service" of sorts would also offer a way for people to test a ship's full potential without having to worry about having to keep someone locked down with scramblers and such. not saying it would be banned from the duel but you wouldn't have to have a scrambler because you would win even if they warp out. (unless you wanted their cargo) |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4756
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:02:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area.
I've noted that every time I go to Jita in a PVP fit someone sends a duel challenge.
Of course, that's Jita and I'm not stupid.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5212
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:17:00 -
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http://youtu.be/Pk7yqlTMvp8 Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1033
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
Also, F&I GåÆ
Not just F&I but things like this can already be found in 'In-Game Events and Gatherings'. If you(OP) want to run events such as this I'd suggest first participating in some of the existing player/corp/alliance-run events that take place already. |

Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:30:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area. Edit: this "service" of sorts would also offer a way for people to test a ship's full potential without having to worry about having to keep someone locked down with scramblers and such. not saying it would be banned from the duel but you wouldn't have to have a scrambler because you would win even if they warp out. (unless you wanted their cargo)
It doesn't hurt to try. I'm sure there are people interested in fights where there is guaranteed to be no OGB, or other outside interference. (Without forfeiture of their stake.)
I doubt it will be easy, you'd need to get enough people interested to have fights on a regular basis, as well as enough of a reputation that people trust you. A reputation as a competent pvp pilot wouldn't hurt as well.
Good luck!
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Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:00:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:
It doesn't hurt to try. I'm sure there are people interested in fights where there is guaranteed to be no OGB, or other outside interference. (Without forfeiture of their stake.)
I doubt it will be easy, you'd need to get enough people interested to have fights on a regular basis, as well as enough of a reputation that people trust you. A reputation as a competent pvp pilot wouldn't hurt as well.
Good luck!
well thats why i made this thread to see if enough would be interested and also because i would need help myself since i cant be on all the time and since It's just me and my brother in my corp atm  |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:04:00 -
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It's easy to find them.
Use the map.
Where are the most people? Go there. Where are the most player ships exploding? Go there.
Or join RvB.
You want a solution for a problem that has been solved long ago. |

Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:18:00 -
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1. I refuse to join RvB because large corporations are boring unless you are really high ranked in them, its just too many people to deal with. 2. I'm not trying to find a solution to a problem that was already solved. I was simply asking if the solution that had been found was a popular one that people would be willing to participate in or join me in creating. 3. I like lists, keeps everything neat and stuffs |

KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
554
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:30:00 -
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CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:35:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.
No. They don't. Go to STO, if that is what you want. Many people would leave if they saw that come into play. (Myself, included.)
Alternatively, if you want a duel arena, help the OP to set one up. In game, using in game resources. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4759
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:40:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.
Here's what you can do:
Set up in a system next door to a "dangerous" system. Villore for example, right next to Old Man Star.
Skill up for one particular ship and fitting. With proper skill planning you can be very effective with a small ship and still stay in a very cheap clone, even at all level 4s and hitting level 5 skills on all of your (1X) skills which can be done relatively fast.
The kinds of ships that you can consider are those that are popular with PVP. Much is said of the Rifter and there's even a "Pirate's Guide" for it. The Incursus comes to mind. If you want to go "high stakes" later, you can even pick a hull that has a comparable Assault Frigate version so when you get Frigate 5 you can train AF and be in the same skill vector that you already built up flying your cheaper ships.
Set up a pile of ships in the station next to the dangerous system. Fit them all ahead of time, one kind of fitting too, or variable to your liking (what, am I supposed to do everything?).
Go into dangerous system and get into fights.
If you get podded, you are right there in the next system with a ship ready to go - don't forget to upgrade your clone before you undock again.
Otherwise if not, and in a dangerous lowsec system it's not so likely to get podded (base out of Torrinos and play in EC-P8R if you want to get podded more) run back and get another ship.
And that's as close as you get to an arena and a respawn point. Cheap ships and cheap clones you can probably feed your habit with an hour of L4 mission running a day or PI or maybe even Market Fu.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1033
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:42:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:1. I refuse to join RvB because large corporations are boring unless you are really high ranked in them, its just too many people to deal with. 2. I'm not trying to find a solution to a problem that was already solved. I was simply asking if the solution that had been found was a popular one that people would be willing to participate in or join me in creating. 3. I like lists, keeps everything neat and stuffs Probably not since this isn't one of those games (e.g. WoW, GW2 etc). If you had more experience with it, you could possibly organize something along those lines as you suggest. But then those that organize the many tournaments that go on in New Eden, having experience with it, a strong level of dedication over months and even years, well I'm sure would tell you it's still not an easy thing to do and especially from a forum thread in the wrong forum.
But if you seek the experience required to do such things, well I mentioned a starting place for getting proactive in the community which does those things. Even participating in related events could give you insights, such as RvB open roams or even the EVE Live event going on as I write this response. But there is no instant gratification in this game, all things you must work your way up too, including social engineering and such. Lucks.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
99
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:57:00 -
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It could work, just try it!
A chat channel is a good starting point.
The 'Arena' could be any spot in Jita system: max traffic, easy to reship.
Just find a small bunch of guys that wanna blow eachother up in arranged fights in highsec and duel away, inviting people to watch and make bets. It could grow from there.
Good luck! |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1125
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:47:00 -
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Just get out of highsec.
Problem solved. All the duels you can ever want and no need to even ask. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:52:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Just get out of highsec.
Problem solved. All the duels you can ever want and no need to even ask.
You funny
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1126
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
It what sense?
It would solve your issues and if you are interested in pvp, you'll learn a lot.
You'll die a lot early on, but as a player you'll develop skills that will be invaluable to your character when it's a bit older and able to fly more ships with better fits.
Also, as your KB has your losses all in lowsec, a couple of tips:
1. Don't fly a Caracal until you can fit it properly 2. Amamake, Siseide and surrounding systems are traditionally busy systems. You'll find newer players in quieter FW systems . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:42:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:It what sense? It would solve your issues and if you are interested in pvp, you'll learn a lot. You'll die a lot early on, but as a player you'll develop skills that will be invaluable to your character when it's a bit older and able to fly more ships with better fits. Also, as your KB has your losses all in lowsec, a couple of tips: 1. Don't fly a Caracal until you can fit it properly 2. Amamake, Siseide and surrounding systems are traditionally busy systems. You'll find newer players in quieter FW systems
All my deaths in lowsec are due to me going there on the way to somewhere else and meeting an unfortunate end. also proper fittings on my caracal had nothing to do with my death. i was shot by a group of 10 people at a stargate. That aside, I'm not really looking to find people to fight really. I'm looking to find people who want to fight other people and everyone gets a little money and experience (except the loser on the money bit) without having to risk the high probability of an unfair fight. At least in this sort of setting the fights will be mostly fair. yeah one guy may have more experience or tech 2 modules while his opponent is less skilled in pvp and only has tech 1 fittings, I can make a rule going against such things or only allowing frigates to fight each other and cruisers to fight cruisers (unless agreed upon by the two parties). |

Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage Fidelas Constans
21
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:38:00 -
[43] - Quote
CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. COME TO BRANCH Proverbs 1:26-27 |

Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
93
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:00:00 -
[44] - Quote
its called Faction Warfare. |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1038
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:06:00 -
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Luwc wrote:its called Faction Warfare. Agreed, but OP doesn't want to actually learn how to pvp, nor participate, only tell others how to. lol? |

Winchester Steele
987
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:08:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars carebears.
FYP. We pretty much already have this. ... |

Ren Coursa
Rapid Withdrawal
5
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:04:00 -
[47] - Quote
Didn't read anything but the title but I'm going to assume i know what the thread is about and be snarky about anyways.
Yes, low sec is clearly thriving so we must add more things to draw people out of these over populated areas of immense content.
Arenas would mean the end of roaming. I for one wouldn't put in 3 hours, being ganked 6 times and trying to kill 10 stabbed farmers who just warp away just to find 1 or 2 solid solo fights when i could just go there and fight to my hearts content.
Better to fix low sec so you actually find more people willing to pvp in the sandbox instead of opening a theme park. |

WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
Jita 4-4 undock. |

Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
247
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:45:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec.  But where would they go? Plot twist. Concord now controls nullsec. |

Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:56:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec.  Then you have more low sec. That's so brilliant! Why didn't anybody ELSE think of it??? Whoa.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1241
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Posted - 2014.04.16 17:22:00 -
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Ha, I came in expecting a whine topic on the absence of arena's where one doesn't lose his ship. Didn't expect a genuine inquiry about player-driven content. Tournaments can actually be a lot of fun, we do this with the corp sometimes. Yup it's herding cats but as usual, anything done enough times becomes routine. I think not many people bother outside of their own social circles, because there's to many dopeheads trolling and / or having a limited IQ to keep order. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
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Posted - 2014.04.16 17:27:00 -
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I dont understand
What purpose would this serve? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
180
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:03:00 -
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Just try it OP. From what I see around trade hubs there are a lot of people who would love that playstile. Maybe you can find your first gladiators there.
There may be some problems if other people try to interrupt the battles just for the lulz, but I am sure there will be a way to incorporate such incidents into your rules set and take measures to stop them. Just be prepared for that. It may make the thing even more interesting.
Don't matter the troll squad here who doesn't even read your posts before they answer. You did not ask for CCP to change the game, that's probably what some of them where thinking when they saw your title.
In my opinion this type of arena gameplay would be 100% more EVE then any CCP sponsored tournament so far where they basically isolate the teams from the rest of tranquility. Real EVE esport needs to be placed in the sandbox itself, it has to be something that emerged from the sandbox and that's what I think the OP is trying to do here. I think the current tournaments don't represent EVE in any way. They have nothing to do with the ingame gameplay, it is a completely foreign format that just uses EVE assets. Only if this type of gameplay emerges from the sandbox it will be an EVE tournament. Maybe the OP will find out if that is even possible.
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
515
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:29:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police.
I know right, if only there were regions of space that were lawless. |

Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1676
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:40:00 -
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No.
WoW ----> Thattaway... 
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
255
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:14:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police.
Wormholes, 0.0 and low sec already meet this criteria.
It's the spectators and strangers in those areas you have to worry about, Imagine Goons hotdropping a fleet on 75-100 people partaking in the matches, spectating, etc. I bet on Goons now :)
You need to work out a system using the War-Dec, alliance and corp mechanics that already exist now. That way you can issue and retract hostility as needed. If the contestants and corp holding alts are the only players involved there will be no outside interference and the matches can take place in hisec (even 1.0 systems, to ensure carebear participation)
Using the above method would also allow you to easily arrange things like 2v2, 4v4 and ladder bracket matches.
I like the idea alot. If you offer prizes high enough and take your time planning it this could be a very nice event making a ton of isk. It's gonna require effort to do it correctly but the results will be awesome.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:29:00 -
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WASPY69 wrote:Jita 4-4 undock.
Thats more of a mosh pit. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Michael Ruckert
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2014.04.17 03:54:00 -
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OP asks for dueling arena. EVE forum warriors respond appropriately:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Jean-Leon_Gerome_Pollice_Verso.jpg "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1586
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:21:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Pretty sure the closest thing to a dueling area is FW sites
Unless you count "fitting multiple warp core stabs and a cloak" as "dueling", you're sadly mistaken. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:06:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:It what sense? It would solve your issues and if you are interested in pvp, you'll learn a lot. You'll die a lot early on, but as a player you'll develop skills that will be invaluable to your character when it's a bit older and able to fly more ships with better fits. Also, as your KB has your losses all in lowsec, a couple of tips: 1. Don't fly a Caracal until you can fit it properly 2. Amamake, Siseide and surrounding systems are traditionally busy systems. You'll find newer players in quieter FW systems All my deaths in lowsec are due to me going there on the way to somewhere else and meeting an unfortunate end. also proper fittings on my caracal had nothing to do with my death. i was shot by a group of 10 people at a stargate. That aside, I'm not really looking to find people to fight really. I'm looking to find people who want to fight other people and everyone gets a little money and experience (except the loser on the money bit) without having to risk the high probability of an unfair fight. At least in this sort of setting the fights will be mostly fair. yeah one guy may have more experience or tech 2 modules while his opponent is less skilled in pvp and only has tech 1 fittings, I can make a rule going against such things or only allowing frigates to fight each other and cruisers to fight cruisers (unless agreed upon by the two parties).
Gate camps are on low>high sec gates, and you'll avoid them by living in lowsec. Living there and getting connected with locals (people living in lowsec are generally nicer, more social and mature folks than in highsec) gets you access to intel in the area.
FW space has plexes, that restrict what ship types can enter. This makes most fights fair, and allows people to choose their fights if it looks unfair to them.
But good luck with your venture. |
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Kathtrine
The ArK's Hammer ArK Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:53:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote: Hello all, I'm rather new to Eve but in my short time here, I have found that there are a decent amount of people who invite other players to duel but to no avail. I myself have invited several people to dual and been unsuccessful in getting an accept from the other party. I was thinking, why not have an area where people could go to just hang out around where all/most of the people there also want to duel. So i wanted to ask the community if having a corporation (i was thinking of starting one for this) set up shop in a location and offering a sort of gladiatorial combat area for other players to come and hang out or duel would be a thing some people wanted. I'm sure you are wondering among other things why a corporation would be needed for this. Well the truth is you really don't, but as most people in this game I want ISK. Considering that these are a list of "services" the corporation would offer.
- Dueling prize money(i.e. two parties give an entrance fee, one winner of the duel gets the pot minus a percentage)
- Allow bidding on such activities (people watch a duel and place bets on the winner, winner(s) split the pot minus a percentage)
- tournaments with prizes
Now obviously there would be rules in place, such as but not limited too:
- If you warp out or for any reason leave the dueling area designated you will forfeit the match
- If you cheat in any way you will forfeit (cheating? like i said rather new so not sure about that one)
- the losers wreck is (obviously) open for the winner to inspect and take what they want
- Winnings will only be received upon destruction of the persons ship (not their capsule although if you wish to kill it, fine)
- Winnings will only be handed out to those who pay the entrance fee (so don't start a random duel then ask for your money)
- bets can only be placed on one ship at a time (to keep this simple and easy to deal with)
Now obviously, these are just some rough details but I really like this idea and just wanted to know if people wanted it/ would actually participate. I'm open for constructive criticism and ideas. Talk to me here or in game if you wish to join me in creating this or just want to play with my noob self.
have you tried Jita 4-4? I seem to get a lot, well before I found the block all duels button, requests in Jita, Hek, Amarr, places like that...
You know the scummy places of Eden.
If your griefing about EvE online and still paying for it, your hooked and CCP has done thier job.
Now go blow somebodies ship up and stop whining about whatever your are lacking. |

Ira Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.04.17 13:02:00 -
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If you want CCP to "make" this: - Do a bit of research before posting this old idea for a pvp arena - What part of "sandbox" did you miss? - Go back to WoW
If you're looking for opinions on whether setting it up yourself will attract participants: - Just try it. Think about advertising it tho. People can't join if they're not aware of its existence - Good job on at least trying to generate player-driven content.
For advice on how to proceed I would suggest searching the forum. Several older posts have people giving out pretty thought through advice and pointing out some of the difficulties you may encounter. |

Othran
Route One
699
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Posted - 2014.04.17 16:54:00 -
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There are hundreds of systems in null you could "duel" in for weeks and never see another soul.
Just go to Great Wildlands (the land the devs forgot after screwing up sov), get off the main pipe and the most you'll see is a startled ratter who runs away immediately.
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