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Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
79
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:45:00 -
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The best part about it is having a nicer place to train skills.
Intense skill training is what most accounts are doing anyway |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4556
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:26:00 -
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The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
694
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:38:00 -
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Just being able to show off my space barbie would be enough, but having a place to meet other players "face to face" in a bar or something with some half-naked dancers and e-alcohol would be fun. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
5196
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:45:00 -
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"new" gameplay elements implies that there are existing gameplay elements.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2165
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:53:00 -
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Posting in stealth "fix training system" thread. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12175
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:54:00 -
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10 ISK says that theres a secret door in the CQ that leads to some form of WoD content in a future expansion.
Peon > Sir, I don't think that space stations and back alley vampire content mix..
Evil CEO > BAH! We spent 15 million to develop it, just throw it in there, Im tired of hearing "Make more WiS content myyyaaaaahhhhh". plus those ***** ate up that Incarna NeX crap we threw at them, and those were all leftovers from THAT fiasco, so their used to buying up recycled crap. Just put some kind of secret key thingy in some kind of "limited" edition something or other and sell it for 120 USD, this way we can recoup some of our loss.
Peon > Sir, I don't think th..
Evil CEO > DO IT OR FACE THE PIT OF A THOUSAND HORRORS! or worse.... Ill sentence you to being an ISD in GD for a week..DURING PATCH DAY!!!!!!!!
Peon > Ok sir..adding it to summer expansion patch notes now.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

PrettyMuch Always Right
University of Caille Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:08:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Just being able to show off my space barbie would be enough, but having a place to meet other players "face to face" in a bar or something with some half-naked dancers and e-alcohol would be fun. Until CODE. members block the corridor and make you pay 10mil ISK to get back to your ship.
After a few months of forum whining, CCP will release a statement claiming they do not support such actions but the mechanics are working as intended. |

Winchester Steele
985
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:13:00 -
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Noone cares. ... |

Teyr Schmitt
An Errant Venture
19
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:39:00 -
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Space Juden wrote:The best part about it is having a nicer place to train skills.
Intense skill training is what most accounts are doing anyway
I 100% agree.
We need a new gameplay element for our CQ.
I demand Prostitutes and Exotic Dancers (and/or Groups of Exotic Dancers)!!!
CCP DOES have the technology.
See some of their WiS videos for proof! |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
588
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:44:00 -
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Teyr Schmitt wrote:Space Juden wrote:The best part about it is having a nicer place to train skills.
Intense skill training is what most accounts are doing anyway I 100% agree. We need a new gameplay element for our CQ. I demand Prostitutes and Exotic Dancers (and/or Groups of Exotic Dancers)!!! CCP DOES have the technology. See some of their WiS videos for proof!
All I want is the ability to look out the station window and see who is camping the dock exits without using an alt.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9383
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:55:00 -
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I wonder if anyone's ever left EVE running because they thought that you had to be online to train skills, and got upset because of downtime. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1042
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:55:00 -
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CQ needs a skill table to sit at and play Russian Roulette on, solo. |

Abyss Azizora
Astro Industrial Technologies
96
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:21:00 -
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What it needs... err... needed, since it won't ever happen now, was gambling built into the game. |

Prince Kobol
1656
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:22:00 -
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I want the ability to dock up and shank somebody in the back who refuses to undock  |

Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
344
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:26:00 -
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If it was possible to some how customize the captain's quarters, or purchase (or manufacture) trophies or other miniatures to put in there, I could get behind that. I'm thinking of the Mass Effect Captain's quarters for example. Purchasing certain items, while not really adding much to the game play, added a lot of flair.
Inviting others in to your quarters would of course be cool as well. I'm sure there's more RP oriented groups that would be interested in that. |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1043
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:40:00 -
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WiPOS? |

Yim Sei
Watchers of Tartarus
127
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:48:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I want the ability to dock up and shank somebody in the back who refuses to undock 
This ...maybe not exactly but some room for discussion here.
I mean 2 corps at war dock in the same station but cant engage inside? really?
Just imagine a new gameplay element here...
War target docks in an NPC station.
IF a corp member has higher standings with the stations corporation (or faction) than the corp they are at war with then, by use of a certain module (expensive and dependent on something ...Concord standings maybe?) they get a chance to use a 'hacking' game to eject a random selection of target pilots from the station (after which normal docking rules and timers apply).
Of course needs polishing to stop people docking and switching to noob ships or pods (quick warp off) but then again maybe the whole standings should be looked at for what we are allowed to do in stations. Imagine if while at war low standings with the station owner would not let you change ship, or leave ship until station has processed your papers (5 minutes? or enough time to get a hack in).
There may be something in this which would bring standings more to the fore AND help eradicate boring station games.
(reposted in F&I) Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |

Prince Kobol
1656
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:51:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:I want the ability to dock up and shank somebody in the back who refuses to undock  This ...maybe not exactly but some room for discussion here. I mean 2 corps at war dock in the same station but cant engage inside? really? Just imagine a new gameplay element here... War target docks in an NPC station. IF a corp member has higher standings with the stations corporation (or faction) than the corp they are at war with then, by use of a certain module (expensive and dependent on something ...Concord standings maybe?) they get a chance to use a 'hacking' game to eject a random selection of target pilots from the station (after which normal docking rules and timers apply). Of course needs polishing to stop people docking and switching to noob ships or pods (quick warp off) but then again maybe the whole standings should be looked at for what we are allowed to do in stations. Imagine if while at war low standings with the station owner would not let you change ship, or leave ship until station has processed your papers (5 minutes? or enough time to get a hack in). There may be something in this which would bring standings more to the fore AND help eradicate boring station games.
The easiest solution to stop docking games is to make every NPC station spit you out at like 25km but you have be with 500m to dock.
However if there where ever to do WIS, then yeah, something like this would be fun. |

Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
375
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:09:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:10 ISK says that theres a secret door in the CQ that leads to some form of WoD content in a future expansion.
Peon > Sir, I don't think that space stations and back alley vampire content mix..
Evil CEO > BAH! We spent 15 million to develop it, just throw it in there, Im tired of hearing "Make more WiS content myyyaaaaahhhhh". plus those ***** ate up that Incarna NeX crap we threw at them, and those were all leftovers from THAT fiasco, so their used to buying up recycled crap. Just put some kind of secret key thingy in some kind of "limited" edition something or other and sell it for 120 USD, this way we can recoup some of our loss.
Peon > Sir, I don't think th..
Evil CEO > DO IT OR FACE THE PIT OF A THOUSAND HORRORS! or worse.... Ill sentence you to being an ISD in GD for a week..DURING PATCH DAY!!!!!!!!
Peon > Ok sir..adding it to summer expansion patch notes now.
>Walking in stations implemented >walk out door in CQ >Immediately Embraced by a Kindred >Can no longer Warp To Star to save pods. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
322
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:17:00 -
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I strongly suspect the only hope WiS has, is if someone finds the files for all the old ambulation stuff that got terminated, and inserts it one year when they are running short on content for an expansion. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:54:00 -
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All I want are proper tattoos that allow me to express my feminism!!!
Support my thread in F&I!!!
..........
AND SHORT SKIRTS! TIGHT DRESSES!
EVEN SHORTER SKIRTS! THE ABILITY TO WALK AROUND ONLY IN A LONG SHIRT COVERING MY BUTT, WITHOUT PANTS!!!
That's sexy!
This char is making me sick..... lol |

Yazzinra
Scorpion Ventures Rim Worlds Protectorate
27
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:00:00 -
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I'm still holding out hope for that board game looking thing with the mechs and hexes that totally didn't seem like a Battletech ripoff (not that I would mind.) I forget what they called it, but add that game and a betting system and i'll call Incarna a success as far as I'm concerned. |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
703
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:06:00 -
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Yazzinra wrote:I'm still holding out hope for that board game looking thing with the mechs and hexes that totally didn't seem like a Battletech ripoff (not that I would mind.) I forget what they called it, but add that game and a betting system and i'll call Incarna a success as far as I'm concerned.
SecWars |

Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3560
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:32:00 -
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Anyone here played Neverwinter? I've given it a go lately, and the major hangout spot for roleplay in that game is the Moonstone Mask, a brothel where the courtesans are typically wearing rather more than some of the player-character patrons. There's a lot of /dance-ing going on, and people leaving in pairs to go cyber in a private instance somewhere.
It's fun in its way, but it really doesn't strike me as very EVE. I mean, I'm all behind the idea of getting my toon sitting down in a bar drinking a beer and watching the Splinterz while winning a Scorpion in a poker game, but what EVE is about is meaningful action that contributes to an economy founded on cycles of destruction.
Just having a bar where people can strut around wearing an example of the pitifully small catalogue of NeX clothing, sink ISK into imaginary beer and emote at each other is fine from an RP perspective, but - and I say this as an enthusiastic and long-term RPer myself - it's not EVE.
WiS needs content. We need to be able to smuggle, to hack megacorporate servers and steal their data in Neuromancer-style digital heists. We need to be able to pull some Ocean's 11 slick crime on a Poteque cybernetics lab. Bars need to be the place where you meet Hancolm Reylo, captain of the Serene Falcon and his mate Zoebacca and sell him a crate full of less-than-legal goods to ship out to nullsec. Or maybe Captain RoboJudge overhears the conversation and arrives at the below-decks exchange of goods and money, delivering justice with his boot and a ridiculously overpowered gun.
I want to own a casino and sell black-market ship components to members of the VIP lounge. I want to trick my interceptor out with an illegal overcharged MWD that provides a bigger speed boost but overheats faster that I had to buy off a shady character in a bar in Rancer. I want him to have built it from stolen prototype blueprints and experimental technology that Lai Dai would pay good money to get back. I want to get a CONCORD bounty every time I blow up a capsuleer who's using one of those things, and I want to take contracts on behalf of the Caldari State to provide a customs patrol at major highsec gates.
I want to hack an FIO office, steal a folder full of experimental viruses from their mainframe and load them into my data analyzer like charges.
I want to work side-by-side with dust mercs, using my wealth and connections and neural implants to literally and figuratively open doors for them as they raid a rival corporation's station hangar. I want to explore Sleeper structures to recover advanced biomodifications that I can build into my own clone.
Some of these things are impractical, implausible or just simply never going to happen. But the point is that EVE in Stations could be huge, IF - and only if - it is more than just a vehicle for erotic emotes. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Sex Slave Girl
Dragonfire Industries Weyr Syndicate
119
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:51:00 -
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Space Juden wrote:The best part about it is having a nicer place to train skills.
Intense skill training is what most accounts are doing anyway
Yes I would love that. A place to train my skills. |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
704
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:20:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:WiS needs content.
Fill an empty room with humans, and they'll make their own content.
Where others see a pointless bar with no gameplay, I see a station interior with windows, so you can now see if anyone is sat on the undock without needing a second account. Imagine an RP corp is recruiting, and you manage to convince them that you're into that sort of thing by spending long evenings at the bar with them. Eventually they allow you to join their corp, which is when you ransom their Orca. That one meeting place provides a lot of possibilities.
I want everything you said too, however, baby steps. Just the bar, a few corridors, and maybe some NPCs standing around would be a good start. I know EVE players would find a way to make that fun (probably at someone else's expense). |

Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3563
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:28:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Imagine an RP corp is recruiting, and you manage to convince them that you're into that sort of thing by spending long evenings at the bar with them. Eventually they allow you to join their corp, which is when you ransom their Orca. That one meeting place provides a lot of possibilities.
You can already do that by going to the IGS, or joining the in-game roleplaying channels, and more efficiently to boot.
EVE in Stations needs to be more than just a graphical facelift to roleplaying - it needs to be EVE, and EVE isn't just a bunch of people in an empty room. Sure, an empty room full of people who can't leave would probably result in them telling a story or playing a game or something, but given the option they WOULD leave in search of somewhere more tools and toys.
You can't just produce content from thin air - emergent content still requires a mechanical foundation. What differentiates EVE from a chat channel is that you can get in a spaceship and fly. Just putting people in an empty space and waiting won't produce results - the sandbox still requires sand.
What you do is you give people the means to extract and transport a resource, and then watch as they figure out how best to control and exploit that resource, build an economy, figure out how it interacts with the rest of the universe, and watch a new edifice grow and form its own thriving ecology.
But an empty room is not content, no matter how pretty it may be. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:34:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Stitcher wrote:WiS needs content. Fill an empty room with humans, and they'll make their own content. Where others see a pointless bar with no gameplay, I see a station interior with windows, so you can now see if anyone is sat on the undock without needing a second account. Imagine an RP corp is recruiting, and you manage to convince them that you're into that sort of thing by spending long evenings at the bar with them. Eventually they allow you to join their corp, which is when you ransom their Orca. That one meeting place provides a lot of possibilities. I want everything you said too, however, baby steps. Just the bar, a few corridors, and maybe some NPCs standing around would be a good start. I know EVE players would find a way to make that fun (probably at someone else's expense). Can't really agree witb you.
What you are saying happens already and does not need a room for people to hang out with.
I mean that your arguments aren't really any, because they don't add something that's not there already.
No one needs a bar for this and no one ever has, thus there would be no increase in possibilities.
I'm not against WiS... hey, I want a long Tshirt to wear without pants lol ... ... but I wanted to say this so you can rethink your arguments. |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
704
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:36:00 -
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Good points from both of you, now that I've had time to think about what I posted. |

Sibyyl
386
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:47:00 -
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A lot of the suggestions in this thread for WiS interaction are similar to metagaming interactions players have over Mumble/phone/SMS. These others means of communication will always be faster and more personal..
When someone is negotiating corp vs. corp terms I suspect a voice is preferred to an avatar's dead-eye stare in CQ.
I'm not putting WiS down.. I'd like to see more WiS gameplay and I've offered some suggestions before.. but I'm not sure I identify too well with the RP-type suggestions.
/Fÿ¡ Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
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