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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:16:00 -
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- Gambling (slay, poker etc)
- in station FC tactical map
Two features I personally wanted to see, and feel would potentially get a lot of use.
Either do something with it or get rid of it completely. People weren't even mad about it. They were mad that there WAS NO game play content, and about the obscene prices in the cash store. People thought WIS was a cool idea, and still do. You just gotta actually do something with it.
Edit: the other obvious gameplay option is to make Legion an extension of EVE, and allow me to so shoot people in the face from my CQ with my eve character? not sure that really is an advantage over a standalone game. |
Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal
Tactical Narcotics Team
279
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:26:00 -
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I just want a clan hall, where corp members can hang out and do things to each others bodies.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
592
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:29:00 -
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I really want a patch where they finally let us open the door and, behind it, is another locked door. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1622
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:47:00 -
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I hope you haven't heard this one: So a Capsuleer walks into a bar.
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Why are you not laughing??
When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:52:00 -
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Teyr Schmitt wrote:Space Juden wrote:The best part about it is having a nicer place to train skills.
Intense skill training is what most accounts are doing anyway I 100% agree. We need a new gameplay element for our CQ. I demand Prostitutes and Exotic Dancers (and/or Groups of Exotic Dancers)!!! CCP DOES have the technology. See some of their WiS videos for proof!
No...noooo they dont. Anyone seen WOD??? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3490
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:59:00 -
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I'd like to sneak into another's CQ when they're out and browse their ships, fittings, hangar contents, contracts and other intelligence. And then leave a fedo in their spare pod as a nice surprise when they next switch ships.
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New Mining Mechanics |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries
Order of the Exalted
578
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Posted - 2014.05.21 16:31:00 -
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PrettyMuch Always Right wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Just being able to show off my space barbie would be enough, but having a place to meet other players "face to face" in a bar or something with some half-naked dancers and e-alcohol would be fun. Until CODE. members block the corridor and make you pay 10mil ISK to get back to your ship. After a few months of forum whining, CCP will release a statement claiming they do not support such actions but the mechanics are working as intended.
Don't give us ideas man! Besides it was the guy's own fault for leaving the ship hangar in the first place!
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4489
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Posted - 2014.05.21 16:35:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Teyr Schmitt wrote:Space Juden wrote:The best part about it is having a nicer place to train skills.
Intense skill training is what most accounts are doing anyway I 100% agree. We need a new gameplay element for our CQ. I demand Prostitutes and Exotic Dancers (and/or Groups of Exotic Dancers)!!! CCP DOES have the technology. See some of their WiS videos for proof! No...noooo they dont. Anyone seen WOD???
Yeah and what I saw of it it looked extremely nice
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague
Fidelas Constans
111
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Posted - 2014.05.21 16:38:00 -
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Webvan wrote:CQ needs a skill table to sit at and play Russian Roulette on, solo.
I hope I get an option to play it with a semi-automatic. |
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
236
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Posted - 2014.05.21 16:44:00 -
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People keep talking about a poker room and I think its a great idea. Have the door open into a poker/bing room and bar with a TV and a view.
TBH I think the FiS purists might be underestimating how that might affect the game. It would create a new toy in the sandbox that could be used to interact with HS other than the market and hitting the residents with a shovel. We would also benefit from having another way to interact with our Dust/Legion and Valkyrie counterparts.
This isn't an important issue because WiS is going to be amazing. This is an important issue because at fanfest we learned only 10% of the playerbase gets to "dynamic content" and we need a way to really engage with the "leveling my Raven" crowd socially. Getting that 10% to even 11 or 12% would be a big win.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4491
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Posted - 2014.05.21 16:45:00 -
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Toriessian wrote:People keep talking about a poker room and I think its a great idea. Have the door open into a poker/bing room and bar with a TV and a view.
If this happens they better allow ganking in stations
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1626
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:06:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Toriessian wrote:People keep talking about a poker room and I think its a great idea. Have the door open into a poker/bing room and bar with a TV and a view.
If this happens they better allow ganking in stations
Would be fun to watch TiDI in station and everybody moving in slowmo. 
When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:33:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Teyr Schmitt wrote:Space Juden wrote:The best part about it is having a nicer place to train skills.
Intense skill training is what most accounts are doing anyway I 100% agree. We need a new gameplay element for our CQ. I demand Prostitutes and Exotic Dancers (and/or Groups of Exotic Dancers)!!! CCP DOES have the technology. See some of their WiS videos for proof! No...noooo they dont. Anyone seen WOD??? Yeah and what I saw of it it looked extremely nice
Where is said WOD now? They failed and they could not deliver. Why would they try to develop something on outdated hardware and software when they couldnt do it with up to date of both with World of Darkness.
If they could NOT make WOD work, how or why would you even want them to waste more time money and resources on something they can never deliver?
WHY?
Because you want to play dress up barbie in space doesnt justify wasting my dev's time and my game resources for something they not only cant deliver but shouldnt.
Maybe if you keep asking they might make it work in Eve 2 for you. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
52
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:46:00 -
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Just put an ISK casino in the stations. Winning. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
2493
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Posted - 2014.05.21 18:53:00 -
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Sadly, I think it is time to accept that WIS is dead Jim! I am sure the reason the WoD died and WIS never came is that the engine can't supported multiple characters in any practical fashion. Until I see an even partial demo of multiple characters interacting in a common place I'm going to stick with it is impossible with the current engine.
Unless CCP thinks of something so compelling to make it worth recoding WIS in another engine it is dead as a parrot nailed to its perch.
It isn't really "game play" that stopped WiS, it was betting on unproven technology. |
Marsha Mallow
653
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:55:00 -
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Do we really need a new WiS thread on GD every day? I know some people are avid supporters, but we don't see FIX SOV/POS threads popping up every day with the same people chanting. Getting old.
Something like this should be in F&I, there's nothing new being discussed (although +1 to everything Stitcher mentioned).
That said the last trailer showed Legion(naires?)/Dusties fighting in what looked to be some sort of space structure. If the elements of Dust are ported from planets into space, does that class as FiS (Fighting in Space) or WiS?
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1630
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:56:00 -
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Quote:Unless CCP thinks of something so compelling to make it worth recoding WIS in another engine it is dead as a parrot nailed to its perch.
And the selesman have only a slug. 
When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC
StructureDamage
1135
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:06:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:That said the last trailer showed Legion(naires?)/Dusties fighting in what looked to be some sort of space structure. If the elements of Dust are ported from planets into space, does that class as FiS (Fighting in Space) or WiS?
It's avatar gameplay, emphasis on gameplay.
I'd like more options than just that (I also loved the exploration-of-ruins scenario they gamed out), but that will do nicely. I don't think the technology is where CCP wants it to be yet, and so I'd be surprised if anything significant happens before we start ganking Badgers as they try to build stargates.
Ships are inert. Gameplay involving ships can stick to the cycle of creation and destruction. If you have avatars, you have the potential for much more nuanced interaction and much more visceral gameplay. It would be a shame to squander that.
(As for the paucity of clothes on the NeX store, the art department is already working on that, per their presentation at FanFest.)
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:13:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Because you want to play dress up barbie in space doesnt justify wasting my dev's time and my game resources for something they not only cant deliver but shouldnt.
1) They're not "your" dev's or "your" game resources. They belong to CCP. Additionally, you aren't any more or less entitled to their time, money or resources than any other player is.
2) You violate numerous forum rules with this post. Some them include:
Forum Rules wrote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
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Marsha Mallow
653
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:17:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:It's avatar gameplay, emphasis on gameplay.
I've been wondering why people have ignored the fairly obvious fact that Dust is avatar based. Liked the EVA thing too, yup.
If Legion is available to PC users, I really hope we don't see people porting over there and ranting about the lack of push up bras, slutty body armour and poker dens.
Having said that... Valk does appear to have it's own forum, fingers crossed for a Legion one. WiSers could always pop in and start ranting, uhm, I mean make helpful suggestions there when it arrives. If the Dusties merge in it'll be absolute carnage, their forums are very entertaining.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:17:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Do we really need a new WiS thread on GD every day? I know some people are avid supporters, but we don't see FIX SOV/POS threads popping up every day with the same people chanting. Getting old.
Something like this should be in F&I, there's nothing new being discussed (although +1 to everything Stitcher mentioned).
That said the last trailer showed Legion(naires?)/Dusties fighting in what looked to be some sort of space structure. If the elements of Dust are ported from planets into space, does that class as FiS (Fighting in Space) or WiS?
You see threads about it every day because people still care about it.
Something like this SHOULDN'T be in features and ideas as we're not suggesting an Idea, CQ already exists. We're having a general discussion about WiS, FiS, Avatar based gameplay.
WiS vs FiS: We're all refering the exact same thing. WiS is the most widely recognized acronym and offers the easiest method for communication on the topic and best search result hits. |
Marsha Mallow
653
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:27:00 -
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Anonymous Forumposter wrote:You see threads about it every day because people still care about it.
Obnoxious spam about a project which isn't under development isn't a meaningful topic for discussion and undermines support in some ways. Those of us who were indifferent before about WiS may well slide towards complete intolerance if you keep this up.
Carry on.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:31:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Anonymous Forumposter wrote:You see threads about it every day because people still care about it. Obnoxious spam about a project which isn't under development isn't a meaningful topic for discussion and undermines support in some ways. Those of us who were indifferent before about WiS may well slide towards complete intolerance if you keep this up. Carry on.
When people care about things, they talk about them. It's far more likely that you'll manage to will yourself to simply ignore them than it is for you to make them go away by attacking them.
Also, These are reason why your post is inappropriate: Forum Rules
Forum Rules wrote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
53
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:33:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Anonymous Forumposter wrote:You see threads about it every day because people still care about it. Obnoxious spam about a project which isn't under development isn't a meaningful topic for discussion and undermines support in some ways. Those of us who were indifferent before about WiS may well slide towards complete intolerance if you keep this up. Carry on.
Is someone forcing you to read these threads or do you just enjoy being outraged? |
Myxx
742
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:52:00 -
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Personally, I regard 'Fis purists' as they've been called in this thread as being highly ignorant. I've said it before, but for the moment I'll just point at stitcher and say I'd like to see that along with player owned bars equally. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC
StructureDamage
1138
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:52:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:It's avatar gameplay, emphasis on gameplay. I've been wondering why people have ignored the fairly obvious fact that Dust is avatar based. Liked the EVA thing too, yup.
DUST avatars are functionally ships: metal and expressionless, and each instance of a type is indistinguishable from any other instance. There isn't even wear on the uniforms. So that's not what anyone hoping for avatar gameplay is looking for, at least not yet. An avatar is not generic.
There is the tagline for the Incarna expansion itself, that there are some things you don't want CONCORD to know about. It's a terrific premise that they did absolutely nothing with, beyond that trailer. If they did something now, with "the empires [...] losing their grip" and the pirate factions rising? It would be perfectly in theme with the game's overall direction.
Looking forward, at FanFest they showed a project they're working on to have not only single sign-on, but to have one character able to jump between different clone types, so that Dersen here could jump from his Ishtar to a Legion clone to a Valkyrie clone and back to the capsuleer clone. The character creator would be moved out of the EVE client, so that you would create a new EVE Universe character and then drop them into whatever game you wanted, whenever you wanted. Combine that with the last trailer, and suddenly you have some real potential--if they realize it. It's a goal, not a feature they've committed to shipping yet.
Marsha Mallow wrote:If Legion is available to PC users, I really hope we don't see people porting over there and ranting about the lack of push up bras, slutty body armour and poker dens.
A few points here:
1) Right now the single largest problem new players face is an inability to break into the social circles that keep people in EVE. Accessible, purely social gameplay is a way to meet people without having to provide a full API key, submit an application, wait for someone to vet you, and then finally invite you onto their TS server. It can break the "world of walled cities" that EVE has become, at least somewhat.
2) There is downtime in EVE. Everyone has, at some point, sat around in a station or in a bunch of ships and talked, or held a corp meeting on a server with nobody logged in at all except for that one alt AFK autopiloting a freighter somewhere. Avatar gameplay that makes use of the potential of avatars can bring that all in game. Effectively, it can bring a lot more of the metagame in game.
3) Clothes are (among many) options for personal expression. Not only is this important for player identification, it can influence gameplay (see: Sabriz Adoudel picking a plain avatar so as to not attract attention or arouse suspicion). Capsuleers are unfathomably wealthy, immortal demigods. We can pilot engines of destruction the size of Manhattan Island, but there is very little variance between us, all things considered. That doesn't make any sense.
4) Capsuleers, again, are unfathomably wealthy, immortal demigods. If you want to project that image, are you honestly going to wear a t-shirt? Think of the way that the incredibly powerful have dressed throughout history.
5) I, for one, would welcome more of an open sandbox, and less shackling to the cycle of creation and destruction. That cycle must continue, and it must also extend into any avatar gameplay generally, but Dersen doesn't exist to serve the economy. He participates in it.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:55:00 -
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Myxx wrote:Personally, I regard 'Fis purists' as they've been called in this thread as being highly ignorant.
Forum Rules
Forum Rules wrote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
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Sibyyl
Brave Collective
1111
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Posted - 2014.05.21 21:36:00 -
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Anonymous Forumposter wrote:Also, These are reason why your post is inappropriate: Forum Rules
Quote:You violate numerous forum rules with this post. Some of them include:
I think your behavior is making the forum experience worse. I really think that it does not help folks who want to have legitimate WIS discussions when you pollute the visual stream of a thread with (what I think is excessive) forum rules quotes.
This thread is open at the moment. Don't squander the opportunity. Discuss the positive aspects of WIS and share ideas for enthusiasts like you. Unless sabotage actually is your goal, and I'm somehow being na+»ve here. |
Marsha Mallow
657
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Posted - 2014.05.21 21:58:00 -
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It's looking pretty deliberate and sustained. Best bet, just talk over their heads and report them without announcing.
Dersen made some good points, as did Stitcher earlier, and it's those who are being drowned out.
Having said that. This remark really is a bit contentious, and apologies because it does breach sexual/gender sterotyping and if it's scrubbed so be it. I notice some Eve female players are not all that fussed about public 'peacocking', but certain guys are. Some of which ties into female objectification etc. There are MMOs out there with extreme levels of nudity and hypersexuality, and this is already a niche game for women. If they arrive in numbers, what's going to happen in an environment like this?
If you try import elements of that to Eve to satisfy the majority male playerbase, consider. Would it attract more female players, or offend the existing ones?
If we're talking about avatar based gameplay, I see no need to wear a wonderbra to FPS and I'm not sure why it needs to be vamped up for the, uhr WiSers.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
5306
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:39:00 -
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The future = WiS Legion. |
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