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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:27:00 -
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... but the rewards in this completely 100% safe area were reduced to 1% or less of current Highsec levels?
Im talking about tutorial/level 1 missions only, belts with only 1 or 2 small veldspar rocks(unless spawned in Lvl 1 mining missions) and icefields eliminated, stations with few or no slots for research/manufacturing and no POSes able to be anchored.
This would make highsec/safesec akin to the WoW forest/ 1SP boars model like the majority of highseccers want.
What would the consequences be? Would highsec still be as populated as it is now? Would people choose to have some risk to receive ANY kind of reward at all? Or would people STILL not be happy because they cannot have their cake (eventhough its a lie) and eat it too?
Id be interested to hear both sides of this discussion.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:30:00 -
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Hey. You know better than this. Repent and say 20 Mail Harrys.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:34:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Id be interested to hear both sides of this discussion.
What, all the other threads were not entertaining enough already?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:34:00 -
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What if there were a Free2Play option but you could only make a character with a certain amount of SP, limited skill choice and permadeath?
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:36:00 -
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What if threads like this, over night, stopped being made, forever? |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:52:00 -
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Did you REALLY have to do this????
"My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:54:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Did you REALLY have to do this????
Would you rather I... necroed 4000 threads? 
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ahost Gceo
Obstergo
Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:55:00 -
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1/10 for an attempt. 3 would have been given if it wasn't unoriginal.
Obstergo is currently recruiting wormhole combatants. US TZ emphasis.
Visit our thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=334065&find=unread |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries
Order of the Exalted
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:56:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:What if there were a Free2Play option but you could only make a character with a certain amount of SP, limited skill choice and permadeath?
For the record, I would totally play a permadeath character in eve. Ganking would be much more fun knowing that that maller on the station actually matters.
New player resources:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP
http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:58:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:... but the rewards in this completely 100% safe area were reduced to 1% or less of current Highsec levels?
Effectively, game subscriptions would be cut in half within 30 days as very few people would bother playing.
Of course, there'd be a real plunge in PLEX prices a few months later with such a drop in demand... but the damage would already be done.
EvE is dying... but this plan would slam the nails in the coffin so fast most people would pod themselves as mass hysteria took over.
You couldn't scoop the corpses fast enough to stay ahead of the mess.... but hey, that would be worth a giggle anyway ;)
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Desivo Delta Visseroff
Probe Patrol
Ixtab.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:06:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Did you REALLY have to do this???? Would you rather I... necroed 4000 threads?
Both are perfectly acceptable courses of action. Anything that elects the proper response and discussion. |
Hal Morsh
404 Ship Not Found
Violent Declaration
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:07:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:What if there were a Free2Play option but you could only make a character with a certain amount of SP, limited skill choice and permadeath?
You know what? That does not sound like a bad idea. Give people an option to play for free, but they would lose their character on death, with the option to upgrade to a full clone account. Problem is there are a lot of issues that come with, like if they allowed a payed account to revert to free to play then lost a customer due to his 5 year character permanently dying, and having some fallback or backup wouldn't fix that issue but break the subscription base.
Maybe we should just stick with trials. They work.
I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:09:00 -
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Interesting. So people would rather have permadeath than a unprofitable 100% safe highsec?!!!?!??
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:16:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Interesting. So people would rather have permadeath than a unprofitable 100% safe highsec?!!!?!??
I would. If there was ever an EVE 2.0, it would be an interesting place if everything was permadeath. Oh, and no high sec either. I'd play that. |
Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
409
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:18:00 -
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if high sec were completely safe with only a 1% reward of what exists now, I would leave it.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:19:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Interesting. So people would rather have permadeath than a unprofitable 100% safe highsec?!!!?!??
Guess there is still hope for EVE.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
Brothers Of The Dark Sun
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:21:00 -
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Tsk Tsk
*wags finger at Unsuccessful.
You know better than that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:23:00 -
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Natassia Krasnoo wrote:Tsk Tsk
*wags finger at Unsuccessful.
You know better than that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
If theres anything you should take away from your time reading my threads, is that I have no shame.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:23:00 -
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Well, tbh, I'm happy others are starting to create non negative threads,
even if they lack related content. Like mine.
I guess I misjudged your intention here and alsk the possible reactions.
Although these still might change.
"My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1776
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:30:00 -
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Dinsdale would have a field day on the forums.
BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1776
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
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Stand back while I snipe this page!
BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:32:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Hey. You know better than this. Repent and say 20 Mail Harrys.
That only works when space fishing.
A great American humorist and author recently said:
"The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices."
I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
DaReaper
Net 7
The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:40:00 -
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Ok, I will bite. I would only agree to this, if the area was for new players only. The point should be to make it so a new player has a chance to get their feet wet in eve. like only 4 systems be this way, the noob systems, and make it so not worth while to have another who is past, say , a month want to remain in that system.
As a concept, there is an easier way to protect noobs, but form an eve stand point, 100% safe high sec is ridiculous.
Its one of the reasons that I laugh at all the people who think another game will kill eve. Part of eve's biggest appeal is you are never really safe, ever. Its what makes eve's even boring aspects exciting. The risk is what gives humans the most thrill. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:44:00 -
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DaReaper wrote: Part of eve's biggest appeal is you are never really safe, ever. Its what makes eve's even boring aspects exciting. The risk is what gives humans the most thrill.
But even knowing that they are never really going to be safe, they still sub, and then cry for 100% safety (but still have 100 to 1000% of the rewards).
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:48:00 -
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It's already there, it's called Singularity, it attracts an average of 100 players: http://eve-offline.net/?server=singularity |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:52:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:What if there were a Free2Play option but you could only make a character with a certain amount of SP, limited skill choice and permadeath?
You want hardcore EvE?
I likes you.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:10:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Interesting. So people would rather have permadeath than a unprofitable 100% safe highsec?!!!?!??
Oh sweet madafrakking geezus on da stick, I would love permadeath in Eve. This is why I was hoping for WoD but well...
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
268
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:15:00 -
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To be fair it would be entertaining to see an area say 4 systems where PVP is simply not possible but only has access to 4 mining belts and 4 level 2 agents just to see what fail bears would stay within those 4 systems amongst the week 1 fresh starts. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
Independent Faction
422
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Posted - 2014.04.22 21:28:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Interesting. So people would rather have permadeath than a unprofitable 100% safe highsec?!!!?!??
Right up to the moment it was actually implemented. Then they'd squawk and want a 100% safe area to be in the moment there were actual consequences to losing a ship.
You'll find a lot of the forum talk big, but when it comes to dealing with consequences to their actions, they hide in station or play as alts for a few months until the heat dies down.
Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:00:00 -
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If highsec was 100% safe I would sit on jita 4-4 undock with an officer fitted ibis.
Mashie Saldana
Dominique Vasilkovsky
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