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d'hofren	Posted - 2006.05.17 12:08:00 - [31] Cya Testy. Thanks for standing up and shouting for us idiots who still insist on training minmatar. Do we have to elect a new projectiles spokesperson now? -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Galactic Exploration and Mining - Web and T II Shop (Including Cerbs)
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2006.05.17 12:10:00 - [32] Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 17/05/2006 12:10:35 Another Minmatar whiner quits, this day is actually turning out to be quite a good one. Pain is meant to be felt
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.05.17 12:13:00 - [33] Originally by: d'hofren Cya Testy. Thanks for standing up and shouting for us idiots who still insist on training minmatar. Do we have to elect a new projectiles spokesperson now? I vote Sarmaul. ~Account Cancelled~
Tsual	Posted - 2006.05.17 12:30:00 - [34] Originally by: d'hofren Cya Testy. Thanks for standing up and shouting for us idiots who still insist on training minmatar. Do we have to elect a new projectiles spokesperson now? Sarmaul seems to be quite able. ******************** Those without a tribe can only keep their word.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.17 12:37:00 - [35] aww crap I have to finish the arti thread now :/
Yzman Shhan	Posted - 2006.05.17 12:55:00 - [36] Originally by: Sarmaul aww crap I have to finish the arti thread now :/ Well I've waited for that thread for ages now so get yer ass working on it --
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.17 12:56:00 - [37] Edited by: Sarmaul on 17/05/2006 12:57:12 Originally by: Yzman Shhan Originally by: Sarmaul aww crap I have to finish the arti thread now :/ Well I've waited for that thread for ages now so get yer ass working on it everytime I nearly finish it tux goes and gives something else a bonus and lol @ testy's new sig
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.05.17 13:13:00 - [38] Originally by: Sarmaul and lol @ testy's new sig Ya rly! And also, get the arty thread going, my subscription expires in like a week or so I think so I have some time left to stick my oar in!
Tsual	Posted - 2006.05.17 14:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 17/05/2006 12:57:12 Originally by: Yzman Shhan Originally by: Sarmaul aww crap I have to finish the arti thread now :/ Well I've waited for that thread for ages now so get yer ass working on it everytime I nearly finish it tux goes and gives something else a bonus and lol @ testy's new sig I'm on the way to eventually back you up with some extensive dot analysis over all ammo/turret types. Taking in count things like cap size/cap need, clip sice/ammo size, effective damage field (optimal +/- falloff), rof, reload - overall I'm so going to beat naughty's graphs with that. [ So far it seems the mean pre modified damage for charge group against unhardenerd t1 ship is: small projectile ammo: shield: 5.2; mean armor damage: 7.06 [amarrian armor: 6.93; caldari armor: 7.16; gallente armor: 6.96; minmatar armor: 7.19] (M = S2, L= S4, XL= S8) small hybrids charges:* shield: 5.49; mean armor damage: 6.64 [amarrian armor: 6.89; caldari armor: 6.48; gallente armor: 6.31; minmatar armor: 6.89] (M = S2, L= S4, XL= S8) small frequency crystals:shield: 9.06; mean armor damage: 4.47 [amarrian armor: 4.71; caldari armor: 4.38; gallente armor: 4.71; minmatar armor: 4.06] (M = S2, L= S4, XL= S8) But I still need to do a sort of bigger comparison. ] ******************** Those without a tribe can only keep their word.
inSpirAcy	Posted - 2006.05.17 14:14:00 - [40] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Another Minmatar whiner quits, this day is actually turning out to be quite a good one. Don't worry, I've got Minny Cruiser 4 cooking right now.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.17 14:25:00 - [41] Originally by: Tsual and then you'll want to compare the comparisons, and take into account more ammo, more guns, more ship setups and more variables until it becomes such a mess that you don't even want to open the folder you were working in. welcome to the world of the arti thread :)
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.05.17 16:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Tsual I'm on the way to eventually back you up with some extensive dot analysis over all ammo/turret types. I highly recommend using Naughty Boy's spreadsheets already if you havent got them. They do every kind of relevant DoT analysis you'll ever need.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.17 16:46:00 - [43] Bye mate. But i think you'll be back after a while when you hear about some cool new update. Nobody leaves this game forever. --- The Eve Wiki Project
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2006.05.17 16:49:00 - [44] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 17/05/2006 16:49:48 Farewell, Testy. Also, I'll have to disagree just because. Agreeing is overrated anyway. Originally by: Sarmaul and then you'll want to compare the comparisons, and take into account more ammo, more guns, more ship setups and more variables until it becomes such a mess that you don't even want to open the folder you were working in. Then, when you eventually get to write and post something, someone will tell you that you are biased, just to get you change it all once more and add twice the amount of graphs, three times as many calculations... fun, fun. NB.
Reatu Krentor	Posted - 2006.05.17 17:01:00 - [45] Edited by: Reatu Krentor on 17/05/2006 17:02:13 so who's going to keep my pest in working order now? Sarmaul? O RLY? YA RLY. ps. only other race I've trained is gallente and that's just the ship skill for the mach(though i'm considering getting hybrids ...) (edit: addendum below) Originally by: Juan Andalusian Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 17/05/2006 12:10:35 Another Minmatar whiner quits, this day is actually turning out to be quite a good one. gee, thanks for the symphaty - phew! dodged the mods on this sig!
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2006.05.17 17:07:00 - [46] Hey Testy - you'll be missed, mate! One less person on the forums who understands balance now I have been thinking about training Minmatar a lot lately. If I do, I'll be sure to name a Minnie ship in your honor. Gotcha! I bet that got ya all hot under the collar, didn't it?
SasRipper	Posted - 2006.05.17 17:35:00 - [47] another person lost to the blob o/ and you will be back my guess is in 3 months at most. they sent the gank squad after my sig
Draycar Hazaran	Posted - 2006.05.17 18:19:00 - [48] Faithful Testy and Sarmaul thread lurker here. We're running out of Matari advocates...I think we're doomed. Best of luck Testy.
Caldar Rion	Posted - 2006.05.17 18:44:00 - [49] Indeed, a sad day. I was dissapointed when Sarmaul quit as well, although that was only temporary. Then again, DC is making posts now with more facts and less rhetoric.. perhaps a sign of the apocalypse? Enjoy your time away, come back soon Testy.
Weirda	Posted - 2006.05.17 18:52:00 - [50] you will be back - lest weirda find someone else to bicker with (maya is so boring) seriously, maybe when you come back you can post with you main, weirda really hate having a caldari alt as one of the self appointed spokeperson for matari. you frustrations are very similar to weirdas with things... have found though that by moving around the map and giving self different thing to do (still pvp - but different goal/objective) have been able to keep eve fun and happy enough and will continue to do so. there ARE a lot of places in map that you do not encounter what you have problem with in such a sheer desparity. either way - see you in space (eventually). and samurel - testy promised weirda at least 2 of those vagabond long ago... go ahead and put them up on escrow for weirda (make sure you don't do WeirdAss - that name pop up too and it is not Weirda). g/l in life! __ Weirda Assault Ship deserve a 4th Bonus and More!
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.17 18:54:00 - [51] Edited by: Sarmaul on 17/05/2006 18:53:53 50/50 on the vagas? edit: I even changed my sig for it :/
Montero	Posted - 2006.05.17 18:56:00 - [52] i give it a month. 2 tops..
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.17 18:58:00 - [53] ull be missed dude, one less argueing for the trashcan faction. not many left i fear but good luck and i hope ull be back to crouch the numbers for our cause whenever i fail to see a "nerf minmatar" thread and godspeed in guildwars.
Merv Tring	Posted - 2006.05.17 21:11:00 - [54] Definitely Sarmaul for primary Projectile proponent! Also, you'll be back. Weeks, months, perhaps a year. But you'll be back
Ometoch	Posted - 2006.05.17 21:37:00 - [55] Edited by: Ometoch on 17/05/2006 21:38:08 Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 17/05/2006 10:06:21 edit2: aww crap, is there anyone left who still flies minny ships? I feel so lonely You know, I never realized until I started reading through here that there were so few Minny pilots. I for one only flay Minmatar, and suffer through all the imbalances, etc... I too will be sorry to see Testy go... I don't post much, since I never have anything intelligent to say, but for this, I will come out from under my bridge. As for you Sarmaul, I also think you would be a great spokesperson for the Matari Ships. I always know that when I get a new ship, or want to try out a new fit, your setups are always good, and also get me thinking along the best lines for those ships. Just my .02 iskies. *Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.*
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.17 21:40:00 - [56] I think we should have an erection tbh
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.05.21 15:22:00 - [57] Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Hey Testy - you'll be missed, mate! One less person on the forums who understands balance now I have been thinking about training Minmatar a lot lately. If I do, I'll be sure to name a Minnie ship in your honor. Wow. That actually brought a tear to my eye. I do have some spare Muninns guys, will they do? :P:P:P
Yual	Posted - 2006.05.21 15:34:00 - [58] Since I have yet to fly a vaga and (apparently) get disgusted with the munin I'd love to take those off your hands. ----------------------------------- Minmatar Pilot - Keep smacking, I'm reloading
Elaron	Posted - 2006.05.21 15:51:00 - [59] As a long time lurker in balance posts, and a pure Minmatar pilot to boot, I'm sorry to see you go. As one of a few pilots who sees the challenges and problems with flying the ships and using the weapons, and is able to take that insight and build solid arguments around it, you've made some fantastic contributions. Good luck, have fun, and we'll see you back in in a few months no doubt Elaron It is never too late to correct the mistakes of the past.
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.05.21 17:08:00 - [60] Originally by: Ometoch I for one only flay Minmatar Wasn't that outlawed in the middle ages?

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