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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:54:00 -
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Chrisb6122
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:57:00 -
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Barca!
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:00:00 -
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The ref ruined the game ----------------
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Jenstruant Fogg
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:48:00 -
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LOL!
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.05.17 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 17/05/2006 23:54:40
Originally by: Cloned Mark The ref ruined the game
Narr.
Don't listen to andy gray, the guys a complete generic clichy tosser... he says things to keep him on the screen.
The ref saved arsenal in truth, had he given the goal, he would still have sent the keeper off... they wouldn't have recoverd from a goal down.
Ofc he was still useless though, it was a dive for the free kick, gave fouls and cards for nothing and somehow totaly missed about 20 blatents, half which deserved cards.
Never realy ruined 90 minutes of football though, it was 50/50 on f'ups
You can probaly narrow that number down to about 25/50 though on what wenger didn't see ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:03:00 -
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Don't diss andy please. The Ref was horrible, arsenal guy(forgot the name there just so many left backs) dived to get the free kick in the first place bar the briht start barca utterly dominated them, with arsenal sitting back and playing like some italian team defensive tactics, which imo was there downfall. they should have kept hitting barca when they scored and hit them when they were down, but no! And now my m8 who didn't listen listen too me is 10quid at the bookies down
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Farrel Trenzane
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:13:00 -
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Very Unhappy
Arsenal could've had 2 goals in the first 10 minutes, Valdez was solid for Barca and after Pires got subbed for Almunia Arsenal didn't really recover.
Ref was a little one-sided towards Barcelona imho but then i'm just a bit biased.
Still, here's hoping that with the bonus that Ronaldinho gets for the Champions League he can get those fecking horrible goofy teeth fixed Most players suck an orange segment at 1/2 time, apparently Rijkaard gives him a small log to chew
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MonkeyDrummer
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:32:00 -
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your goal keeping hero let you down this time not the ref, with 10 men you were never gonna hang on..
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:46:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 18/05/2006 00:47:39 Had he not blown the whistle he would have given Barca the goal and the goalie a yellow card, he can't both give the goal and the red card.
As it were now he blew the whistle prematurely and had no other choice but to stand by his call and show the red card, disallowing the goal.
Wait a minute, is that an englishman complaining about someones dentals!?
Remind me about The Maze.
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Cirra
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:19:00 -
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BARCA ftw
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Lyra VX
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:53:00 -
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Arsenal fans just can't handle a loss can they?
They were dominated almost from the start and it was not just due to being one man down for 70 minutes. So a few Barca players didn't get booked - would the result have been different if they had? Eboue was diving all over the place (which got you your goal, incidentally), Henry missed two golden chances with only the keeper to beat and - however you look at it - Dirty Jens grabbed Eto'o's ankle and was rightly sent off.
There was no way that Lehmann could have stayed on. It was either give the goal and send him off, or disallow it and send him off. The ref did Arsenal a favour (presumably in an attempt of not giving them two body blows in the same motion) and they still ***** about it.
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Hasan Rachid
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:04:00 -
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You lost, get over it. Tell your manager and captain to stop whining, you should be dignified in defeat, in public at least.
Despite that I would have been happier to see Arsenal win.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:10:00 -
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Barca \o/
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Tuxford
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:38:00 -
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The ref wasn't really good. He wasn't as horrible as the commentators make you believe (probably in every country) but he was pretty bad. He was pretty bad for both teams though so it kind of evens out.
That incident where Lehman wasn't really his best moment but tbh when he blew the whistle he had to throw Lehman off. This could actually have gone a lot worse for Arsenal, he could have kept the goal and thrown Lehman off. I would have preferred that he would have just given barca the goal and kept Lehman on.
We can of course speculate what would have happen if Lehman would have stayed in the game and barca kept the goal. Perhaps Arsenal would have won or perhaps Barca would have just scored more goals as Arsenal would have been forced to play more aggressive.
I don't think its fair either to say that Barca was much better because they had the ball more. Defensively Arsenal played very well and up to the equalizer by Eto'o Arsenal actually got much better chances that Barca did. Of course this was pretty much over for Arsenal once Henke came on. _______________ |
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FooB2
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:43:00 -
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WAY TO GO BARCELONA. LOL.
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:55:00 -
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was quite an entertaining game, disappointement aside.
Any excuse to go to the pub tbh.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Had he not blown the whistle he would have given Barca the goal and the goalie a yellow card, he can't both give the goal and the red card.
They can give both, but thankfully he did not do that this time. A red card should only be shown when a player has unfairly denied a clear goal scoring opportunity. As Barcelona had another striker on standby to score the goal, the ref should have let that goal stand and booked Lehman. Poor refereeing throughout though; what did Henry get booked for?!!
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Dawson
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:08:00 -
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errr god
that bloody ref. Hes wasnt bias, he was just crap! he kept on making the wrong decisions for each team. Just turned out more went barc way :(
A better ref should of been picked for a game at this level.
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Nadija
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:24:00 -
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lol @ arsenal.... loooooosers sorry, but I really dont like arsenal
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Tuxford
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nadija lol @ arsenal.... loooooosers sorry, but I really dont like arsenal
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nadija lol @ arsenal.... loooooosers sorry, but I really dont like arsenal
Hmmm... sounds like another official press statement from Tottenham Hotspurs.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Hawkes
Originally by: Nadija lol @ arsenal.... loooooosers sorry, but I really dont like arsenal
Hmmm... sounds like another official press statement from Tottenham Hotspurs.
hmmm, dont eat the lasagna
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Saladin
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:46:00 -
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I'm still amazed I managed to dodge the score long enough to get back home and watch the recording.
I too would have preferred that Lehman stay on and let the goal stand - would have made for a more interesting game. I will admit I am biased against Arsenal because of their disciplined defesive play. It makes for horrible viewing and its a shame they reached the final (final shoulda been Milan vs Barca but thats the draw for you).
Ronaldinho was a persona non grata for most of the game. Even though he came on as a sub, Henrik Larson has to be man of the match. ----
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F4ze
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:53:00 -
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The decision to deny Barcelona the goal and a red card for Lehman was not as bad as it looked.
He already called foul before the goal was scored and thus he had no other choice than to give Lehman a red card. If he hadn't called it as fast (i.e. not before the goal), he would have accredited Barca the goal and a yellow card for Lehman.
And of course, Arsenal's goal came after a schwalbe from EbouT.
So all in all, I wouldn't say the ref was "wearing a barca shirt".
Good game.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: F4ze The decision to deny Barcelona the goal and a red card for Lehman was not as bad as it looked.
He already called foul before the goal was scored and thus he had no other choice than to give Lehman a red card. If he hadn't called it as fast (i.e. not before the goal), he would have accredited Barca the goal and a yellow card for Lehman.
And of course, Arsenal's goal came after a schwalbe from EbouT.
So all in all, I wouldn't say the ref was "wearing a barca shirt".
Good game.
Well normally Lehmann must have recieve the red card and the goal should have counted. When when not there you have to decide for advantage for barca?
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Sharcy
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:07:00 -
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I believe everyone in the stadium was furious with the ref. The commentator on dutch TV suggested they sent the wrong Norwegian home (after a linesman got sent back after posing in a Barcelona shirt). Of course he ruined the game. You could tell neither side was happy with the decision, it destroyed any chance Arsenal had of playing their normal game. Plus, and that ****ed me off even more, it ruined the chance of Bergkamp getting a proper farewell.
I was neutral last night, highly anticipating a dream ticket between 2 of the most attractive teams. But that dimwit blew it when he blew his whistle.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin Even though he came on as a sub, Henrik Larson has to be man of the match.
QFT! Henke ftw.
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Zezman
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:17:00 -
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I'm disappointed by this thread. I thought it would be about someone who lost their arsenal of weapons cache in Syndicate in a hauler we might have ganked, but no, its about some stupid soccer game. Soccer threads should be banned like political and religious threads in my opinion. There, I said it.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zezman I'm disappointed by this thread. I thought it would be about someone who lost their arsenal of weapons cache in Syndicate in a hauler we might have ganked, but no, its about some stupid soccer game. Soccer threads should be banned like political and religious threads in my opinion. There, I said it.
/shoo go perform a Zezman Manouver!
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:51:00 -
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i was rooting for Barca, now Glasgow Celtic automatically qualify \o/ ___________________________________________________ ~Vistilantus
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.18 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: FooB2 WAY TO GO BARCELONA. LOL.
LOL, so true, dutchies ftw, i mean the entire team is basically dutch ^^ _________________________________________________
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Weebear
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Posted - 2006.05.18 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Vistilantus i was rooting for Barca, now Glasgow Celtic automatically qualify \o/
Amazing how a team who were embarassingly pumped out by a pub team in the qualifiers last year can be seeded in pot 2 for next year!
My opinion of the game last night is that the ref made it a game with the sending off. He had no choice after he blew the whistle, and he has to make these decisions quickly.
It wasn't the sending off that was the difference between the teams, it was the introduction of Larsson to the game. If he hadn't come on I believe Arsenal would have held on for the win and then we wouldn't be hearing all these complaints about the red card! |
F4ze
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Posted - 2006.05.18 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: F4ze The decision to deny Barcelona the goal and a red card for Lehman was not as bad as it looked.
He already called foul before the goal was scored and thus he had no other choice than to give Lehman a red card. If he hadn't called it as fast (i.e. not before the goal), he would have accredited Barca the goal and a yellow card for Lehman.
And of course, Arsenal's goal came after a schwalbe from EbouT.
So all in all, I wouldn't say the ref was "wearing a barca shirt".
Good game.
Well normally Lehmann must have recieve the red card and the goal should have counted. When when not there you have to decide for advantage for barca?
I was watching the game on belgian tv and they phoned a specialist from some commity (can't remember which one) during half time. He claimed that the ref could have either accredited the goal and given Lehman yellow, or red for Lehman and denying barca the goal. Obviously the referee had no other choice than to give Lehman a red card, because he had already blown the whistle before the goal was scored.
He should have looked where the ball was going first before calling foul, but it was already too late.
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framolia
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Posted - 2006.05.18 18:00:00 -
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Football grr
A bunch of pre-maddona's who get paid far too much for kicking a bit of inflated pig skin around a field for 90 minutes!
Yes you may say it takes skill, but so does my profession of nursing, some players make more in a week than i do in 2 years.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.05.18 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: framolia Football grr
A bunch of pre-maddona's who get paid far too much for kicking a bit of inflated pig skin around a field for 90 minutes!
Yes you may say it takes skill, but so does my profession of nursing, some players make more in a week than i do in 2 years.
Thats sucks
And you only discovered this now?
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Border201
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Posted - 2006.05.18 21:40:00 -
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Pff American Football is much better than any of that Girly soccer that you guys play!
/me Runs away as fast as he can!
Originally by: Tuxford once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.05.18 22:32:00 -
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check this out and say that again
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.05.18 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Border201 Pff American Football is much better than any of that Girly soccer that you guys play!
/me Runs away as fast as he can!
pfft takes more skill to control a ball with your feet than your hands
and @ the girly game comment yea if you look at some players *cough* Cristiano Ronaldo *cough* then yea you have a point, but then compare to Schwatzer who stopped a goal with his head (literaly) and played a few days later with a brace kindathing
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Border201
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Posted - 2006.05.18 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye check this out and say that again
I will say it again! O wait I can't hide it anymore I really don't care for american football (am a Yank FYI) I only watch the superbowl to see the comercials. I much rather watch Baseball or play soccer Nothing quite like doing a sliding kick into the other player and in one motion kick the ball from him as well as make him face plant into the dirt!
Originally by: Tuxford once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Enigmier
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Posted - 2006.05.18 22:49:00 -
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arsenal were unlucky, if lehman had fo kept his hands to himself arsenal would of had a fantastic chance to bring the game back from 1-0 down, but all in the past but the team arsenal put out has a very bright future and can only get better and better, barca`s team has probably reached its peak and tbh arsenal were a yard quicker than barca in every area of the pitch apart from eto`o who is without doubt barca`s best player ronaldinho is soo over rated, get in quick on him and actually challenge him and he goes to peices
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.05.18 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Border201 Pff American Football is much better than any of that Girly soccer that you guys play!
oh and american football = rugby for girls. they wear padding and have breaks every 30 seconds.
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Border201
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Posted - 2006.05.18 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye
Originally by: Border201 Pff American Football is much better than any of that Girly soccer that you guys play!
oh and american football = rugby for girls. they wear padding and have breaks every 30 seconds.
ROFL!!!
Originally by: Tuxford once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2006.05.19 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford The ref wasn't really good. He wasn't as horrible as the commentators make you believe (probably in every country) but he was pretty bad. He was pretty bad for both teams though so it kind of evens out.
That incident where Lehman wasn't really his best moment but tbh when he blew the whistle he had to throw Lehman off. This could actually have gone a lot worse for Arsenal, he could have kept the goal and thrown Lehman off. I would have preferred that he would have just given barca the goal and kept Lehman on.
We can of course speculate what would have happen if Lehman would have stayed in the game and barca kept the goal. Perhaps Arsenal would have won or perhaps Barca would have just scored more goals as Arsenal would have been forced to play more aggressive.
I don't think its fair either to say that Barca was much better because they had the ball more. Defensively Arsenal played very well and up to the equalizer by Eto'o Arsenal actually got much better chances that Barca did. Of course this was pretty much over for Arsenal once Henke came on.
As a Norwegian I feel I have to defend the action of the refferee. I agree whit much of your assestment though. Not much he could do ones he blew the wissle. Lehmann had to go. Had he not blown though, and let the ball go. There is two things that could have happend. Either 1# barca scored and he could give lehmann a yellow. Or 2# Barca didn't score but had second change. Now. What do you do? You can't go back now and give Lehmann the red. Becus you have given the chance foul the slip. He could have given the yellow but not the red becus he had given Barca the chance to score.
But he had no choice ones he blew though. Lehmann can only blame himself. Even though I whould preffere for the match sake that Lehmann had got the yellow and stayed on. It whould have been a much more intresting match then. But you can't really blame the refferee for that.
Beside, Arsenal had that horrid foul before their goal. A foul that should never have happend. But really. Both the liner and the ref couldn't see if it wasn't contact or not.
All in all I don't think the ref was that bad. But he could obviusly have done a better job. But that one insident kinda set the stage for the rest of the match. It's not like it could be like last years match anyway. Damn that was a metch for the ages.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.05.19 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: framolia Football grr
A bunch of pre-maddona's who get paid far too much for kicking a bit of inflated pig skin around a field for 90 minutes!
It's prima donna...
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Smith
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Posted - 2006.05.20 00:39:00 -
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As a neutral (Hatters fan) I felt the ref was for me a typical Euro ref...wanting to get in all the papers. Good refs dont get noticed and this guy was almost as big a talking point as Barca winning the cup.
A good ref would of taken a moment to see what developed and then act. For the good of the game it should of been 1-0 Barca and yellow card for lehmann.
At the start I thought it was arsenal who looked the more up for it, first 15 or so minutes they were pinging around. Soon as that red card was shown there was only going to be one winner and that was Barca. You could see when Barca got the goals Arsenal were tiring. Shame as I hoping for 5-5 draw going to penalties. All us neutrals got was a 10V11 only one way it was going to go final. Dont want to take the credit from Barca cause I love the way they play but i was so angry cause the ref was so desperate to get his little bit of fame on the game.
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