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Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:25:00 - [1] Hi everyone, What group controls which high end complex (level 8-10) ? Which of them are in contested space ? Who should be contacted when someone wants to start running such complexes in a team on a regular basis looking for a challenge after soloing level 4 missions (with PvP a possibility, but not the main chosen field) ? Are there freelancer teams doing high end complex runs, but not bound to a territory ? The equivalent to a "raiding guild" in other MMORPGs. Have fun Ian Novarider (question coming from a 2 year EVE player, never joined a corp so far) 4LB-EL Insmother -0.3881 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular 5M2-KP Insmother -0.4001 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular AA-YRK Venal -0.4128 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular CS-ZGD Branch -0.4298 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular EK2-ET Venal -0.3330 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular FHB-QA Venal -0.3792 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular GM-0K7 Immensea -0.3869 Cartel Prisoner Detention 8/10 Regular IAS-I5 Detorid -0.3932 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular IAS-I5 Detorid -0.3932 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular J2-PZ6 Scalding Pass -0.3313 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular K-9UG4 Feythabolis -0.9735 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular KW-1MV Tenal -0.3007 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular NZPK-G Omist -0.4688 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular QKTR-L Geminate -0.3853 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular SV-K8J Geminate -0.3519 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular U-MFTL Detorid -0.3096 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular U-QMOA Cache -0.3061 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular ZZZR-5 Deklein -0.7508 Pith's Penal Complex 8/10 Regular 16P-PX Esoteria -0.7168 Centus Assembly T.P. Co. 10/10 Regular 4-07MU Catch -1.0000 Centus Assembly T.P. Co. 10/10 Regular 77S8-E Detorid -0.8198 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular 7BX-6F Fountain -0.7629 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard 10/10 Regular A2V6-6 Outer Ring -0.8500 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard 10/10 Regular B-R5RB Immensea -0.7081 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular D-FVI7 Esoteria -0.8092 Centus Assembly T.P. Co. 10/10 Regular E3-SDZ Catch -0.7570 Centus Assembly T.P. Co. 10/10 Regular GHZ-SJ Feythabolis -0.7223 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular U93O-A Cache -0.8430 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular UTKS-5 Syndicate -0.3672 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard 10/10 Regular WMH-SO Fountain -0.7106 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard 10/10 Regular WO-GC0 Scalding Pass -0.7894 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular XZH-4X Cloud Ring -0.7510 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard 10/10 Regular Z-N9IP Impass -0.8001 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular ZDYA-G Paragon Soul -1.0000 Centus Assembly T.P. Co. 10/10 Regular
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:31:00 - [2] What makes you think anyone is going to let you run complexes in their regions? They're pretty camped as it is. Do not discuss moderation on the forums - Cathath([email protected]) boohoo
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:33:00 - [3] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=331220 Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
Nafri	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:35:00 - [4] try those in fountain, thy were always easiest to do, and thy are hardly camped. Summertime - Campingtime!
D4N13L J0NES	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:37:00 - [5] ASCN & AXE CONTROLED SPACE CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING COMPLEXES K-9UG4 Feythabolis -0.9735 Cartel Prisoner Retention 8/10 Regular GHZ-SJ Feythabolis -0.7223 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular D-FVI7 Esoteria -0.8092 Centus Assembly T.P. Co. 10/10 Regular ZDYA-G Paragon Soul -1.0000 Centus Assembly T.P. Co. 10/10 Regular Z-N9IP Impass -0.8001 Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard 10/10 Regular
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:41:00 - [6] >>> What makes you think anyone is going to let you run complexes in their regions? They're pretty camped as it is. >>> Maybe those groups are still open for recruitment or will accept a freelancer battleship pilot into their ranks (21 mio skillpoints, no previous corp entanglements ...). But first I have to know whom to contact. Thanks for the link to the alliance territory control map - I knew it already. That would be my "fall back option" when responses from this thread are not giving the necessary information. Have fun Ian Novarider
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:43:00 - [7] >>ASCN & AXE CONTROLED SPACE CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING COMPLEXES>> Thx Jones. Any contact info you would recommend (short of writing the CEOs) ? Have fun Ian Novarider
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:45:00 - [8] >>> try those in fountain, thy were always easiest to do, and thy are hardly camped. >>> That would make it BoB territory, I assume. Do you know any contact info on groups within BoB operating near these complexes ? Have fun Ian Novarider
Auman	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:51:00 - [9] I would say your chances of using the complexes in our regions with our permission are pretty low. Your best chance is to convo Rift Scorn as frequently as possible to check. Maybe use a couple of alts in case he doesn't like the name Ian.
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:52:00 - [10] xzh is your best bet :) ---------------
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Amthrianius xzh is your best bet :) nah its rather camped alot :/ --------------------------------
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:08:00 - [12] >>> Your best chance is to convo Rift Scorn as frequently as possible to check. >>> Thx. :-) I dont use alts, so if he does not like the name Ian then thats the way the cookie crumbles Have fun Ian Novarider
Xantina	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Nafri try those in fountain, thy were always easiest to do, and thy are hardly camped. Yes, try those in Fountain. You'll receive a very warm welcome, I can assure you
Rexy	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Ian Novarider >>ASCN & AXE CONTROLED SPACE CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING COMPLEXES>> Thx Jones. Any contact info you would recommend (short of writing the CEOs) ? Have fun Ian Novarider look at www.civis-ascendant.net, should be some contact details there. but i wouldnt waste my time on it, the complexes are for ascn. but you can always try nicking one
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:22:00 - [15] >>> the complexes are for ascn >>> Understood. Maybe a good reason to join ASCN then. have fun Ian Novarider
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:24:00 - [16] Hi Xantina, >>>> You'll receive a very warm welcome, I can assure you >>>> outside of sarcasm mode, you might even be right. Anyone you would recommend to contact if someone wants to join the groups operating there ? Have fun Ian Novarider
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:25:00 - [17] Edited by: Marcus Aurelius on 18/05/2006 13:26:02 Forget 10/10's, those are the best plexes and are farmed meticulously by alliances that are unlikely to let you use them just becuase you like to. They know exactly what the average earning potential of each complex is and how much effort it takes to run and are not likely to be cutting deals. If I were you I'd look for regions that are in something of a turmoil and that feature both 8/10's or 9/10's as well as 10/10's. In one of those areas I;d try and set my sights on one of the lower end ones. So, that doesn't leave much space does it :p edit: as for the fountain ones, I can safely tell you that the chance of weasling in on one of the serpentis 10/10's is next to zero.
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:40:00 - [18] Hi Marcus, thx for the info. I am not intending on "weasling in" on any complexes unless there is no other way. I have the luxury of never having joined a corp before in almost 2 years and being a rather experienced EVE pilot, I think there is a chance that some of the groups working on these complexes are recruiting someone with no previous history with other corps and therefore no (political) strings attached. I want to experience a part of EVE I have not seen yet (and get some decent equipment for my ships out of it). I also switched primary games from SWG to EVE so its time to finally join or found a corp here. In SWG (Naritus) I was one of the leaders of a 120 member group - so organizing high end content teams is nothing new to me. Have fun Ian
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:42:00 - [19] Then I'd look at the southeastern area of Eve. The relative highest concentration of high end complexes, with many different alliance that mean constant shifting playerbase within them. You might be succesfull at applying for a place in a corp there and get something done.
Audrea	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:44:00 - [20] CCP should really add more plexes, its unreasonable that for over 100k players, there are what? 10 plexes? (3 centus, 3 serpentis, 3 amatarr navy or whatever and thats pretty much it)... ---------------------------------------------- All my posts are my own opinions and dont not represent any organization until stated otherwise.
Xantina	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:50:00 - [21] Originally by: Ian Novarider Hi Xantina, >>>> You'll receive a very warm welcome, I can assure you >>>> outside of sarcasm mode, you might even be right. Anyone you would recommend to contact if someone wants to join the groups operating there ? Have fun Ian Novarider Outside of sarcasm mode I can tell you that there are quiet a number of alliances knocking each other around (BoB, FA, NORAD, VC, Xelas) so it's not an easy turf for complex runners. Check Backstory/Alliances, there's a list of the Alliances and their member corps in case you want to apply :)
Rexy	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:51:00 - [22] Edited by: Rexy on 18/05/2006 13:52:36 Originally by: Ian Novarider >>> the complexes are for ascn >>> Understood. Maybe a good reason to join ASCN then. have fun Ian Novarider you cant join ascn and run the 10/10 for yourself either, well you can but you wont keep the goodies. edit (you're more then welcome to join an ascn corp off course, just running 10/10's for personal profit isnt possible)
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:57:00 - [23] >>>you're more then welcome to join an ascn corp off course, >>> That is the idea, ASCN or another group operating near such complexes. And someone is ALWAYS knocking someone else around out there. Thats nothing new. Thats what many WANT who play there :-) Have fun Ian
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:58:00 - [24] >>> Check Backstory/Alliances, there's a list of the Alliances and their member corps in case you want to apply :) >>> Thx. Ian
Nafri	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Xantina Originally by: Nafri try those in fountain, thy were always easiest to do, and thy are hardly camped. Yes, try those in Fountain. You'll receive a very warm welcome, I can assure you Well, a few month ago you could run those complexes even without using BMs to reach fountain. Doubt anything has changed. Summertime - Campingtime!
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2006.05.18 14:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Audrea CCP should really add more plexes, its unreasonable that for over 100k players, there are what? 10 plexes? (3 centus, 3 serpentis, 3 amatarr navy or whatever and thats pretty much it)... Hmm, chekc the map sometime
BOldMan	Posted - 2006.05.18 14:02:00 - [27] Originally by: Ian Novarider >>>try those in fountain, thy were always easiest to do, and thy are hardly camped.>>> That would make it BoB territory, I assume. Do you know any contact info on groups within BoB operating near these complexes ? A succefully application: Hi, Can I join your corps? I want to run 10/10 complexes from your regions. --------------------------------------------- [notify] None - Are you sure you want to proceed with the clone jump? The process of doing so will result in the destruction of the existing clone you h
III LightBringer	Posted - 2006.05.18 14:11:00 - [28] There is a 10/10 angel complex 6-7 jumps from the ISS outpost at the borders to immensea, B-R5RB. You get yourself 5-6 raiding buddies, and you can opperate from ISS station. Noone ever uses that plex anyway. There ain't.. a single alliance out there.. that whould let a new guy run a plex.
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 14:12:00 - [29] >>>A succefully application:>>> A successful Application: Hi, I am a 22 mio SP battleship pilot with experience in soloing level 4 missions and some PvP. Never joined a corp before in EVE in the not quite 2 years playing the game. Experience in running guilds and high end content from several other MMORPGs. Experience in Teamspeak coordinated operations. Experience in military operations (in game and real life). Looking for a new challenge in EVE and would like to join a group operating near and in high end complexes. Sounds a bit better, neh ? Have fun Ian
Ian Novarider	Posted - 2006.05.18 14:15:00 - [30] >>> There is a 10/10 angel complex 6-7 jumps from the ISS outpost at the borders to immensea, B-R5RB. You get yourself 5-6 raiding buddies, and you can opperate from ISS station. Noone ever uses that plex anyway. There ain't.. a single alliance out there.. that whould let a new guy run a plex.>>>> Thanks ! ISS is an interesting concept. I am not yet convinced if it can work in the long run in the shark pond called EVE, but impressive milestones have been achieved. Have fun Ian

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