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Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.18 19:36:00 - [91] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/05/2006 19:36:39 Originally by: Wrangler Finally! the wait is over! Since getting no news for a week seems to be considered a sign that the end of the world is close, Oveur decided to simply take it over instead. This seems funny in retrospect, since Oveur made it worse. Just kidding around, dont ban me, i still have some veldspar to mine. --- The Eve Wiki Project
John McCreedy	Posted - 2006.05.18 19:47:00 - [92] Edited by: John McCreedy on 18/05/2006 19:47:30 Double posted. Make a Difference
John McCreedy	Posted - 2006.05.18 19:47:00 - [93] I really think this needs saying once and for all and I'm sure I speak for a lot of people. Kali looks fantastic and the effort you guys put in is phenomenal however, as all of us know, these things are always inherrintly buggy. My problem with this is not the bugs, they're a fact of life, rather mine and an awful lot of people I speak to both in EDF and beyond, think that today the biggest problem in Eve is your customer service. It sucks. We're almost three years into this game and the GM support is getting worse, not better. I'll give you an example. Almost 4 weeks ago I sent a petition in that I still haven't even had an automated response back from, let alone the petition dealt wtih. In other examples, people I deal with have had Petitions answered by people who clearly have no idea how this game operates in terms of game mechanics. The GMs are almost like robots reading from a pre-defined script with no clear knowledge as to what it is they're actually talking about. So consider this a plea from the people who feel like myself. Sort out Eve's customer service once and for all. Make a Difference

Redundancy	Posted - 2006.05.18 19:48:00 - [94] To be perfectly honest, I've felt like a demonized punching bag for the last week. I'm pretty used to harsh criticism about features, ideas, and speculation that usually involves us intentionally designing features in the way that person hates most, but those bitter posts about us only being in it for the money, not caring about Eve etc are always incredibly painful to read.

HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.18 19:48:00 - [95] can we get a dev confirmation on whether the VOIP will be paid by renting a server, or by a player who wants to connect?
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.18 19:51:00 - [96] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/05/2006 19:52:38 Originally by: Redundancy To be perfectly honest, I've felt like a demonized punching bag for the last week. I'm pretty used to harsh criticism about features, ideas, and speculation that usually involves us intentionally designing features in the way that person hates most, but those bitter posts about us only being in it for the money, not caring about Eve etc are always incredibly painful to read. Sometimes its easy to forget you guys are normal human beings. Its very easy to just type anything without considering that you devs actually read this... I think we all love this game so much that the feelings get too strong sometimes. --- The Eve Wiki Project
Windle Poons	Posted - 2006.05.18 19:59:00 - [97] Originally by: Redundancy To be perfectly honest, I've felt like a demonized punching bag for the last week. I'm pretty used to harsh criticism about features, ideas, and speculation that usually involves us intentionally designing features in the way that person hates most, but those bitter posts about us only being in it for the money, not caring about Eve etc are always incredibly painful to read. The problem is us players are people too, and there are so many small and easy fixes that would make eve so much less annoying to play, yet they never get fixed - sometimes lots of little problems that affect virtually every day to day interaction with EVE need fixing before what you might see as the bigger issues. Also, if you aren't ever going to put divsional wallet etc in, could you at least remove it from the features page so I can finally give up my eve subscriptions Thats all it would take to make me happy(ier) for the next three years, 7 little divisional wallets :/
Ballio	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:00:00 - [98] CCP has one of the best management and dev teams out there. Keep it up! BTW ... EVE Voice is a superb idea!
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:01:00 - [99] SOrry to add this but new CEO tools and working departmental wallets any comment about some loving there ? days since lsat log in info on all characters perhaps ?
Julia Reave	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:03:00 - [100] Originally by: Redundancy To be perfectly honest, I've felt like a demonized punching bag for the last week. I'm pretty used to harsh criticism about features, ideas, and speculation that usually involves us intentionally designing features in the way that person hates most, but those bitter posts about us only being in it for the money, not caring about Eve etc are always incredibly painful to read. Sorry to hear that...really...I feel for you, but also for the players...dare commenting on the sacrifice of "one unsharded world" and "no extra charge for content/features"? Especially the second shard hurts...even to me who just started playing, it would even hurt me, if I wouldn't play at all, I just thought Eve as one big universe was a great idea...you have to agree it looks like it is for the money, and I guess it is!? Let us know...
Notleh	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:04:00 - [101] Focus CCP. Focus on the existing problems, like dissappearing BPO's, crashes, a petition que that is weeks long, and the hundreds of other things gone wrong. Focus on your existing customers.
Helmut 314	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:07:00 - [102] Edited by: Helmut 314 on 18/05/2006 20:08:37 Edited by: Helmut 314 on 18/05/2006 20:07:46 Oveur seems like a nice guy with lots of vision to us players. When that vision time and again gets cut down from a pineapple to a plum by reality you start to lose credibility. JHENR is recruiting. __________________________________ Trying is the first step of failure - Homer J Simpson
Omanos	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:07:00 - [103] I am new yes....but they have vision...and I want to drink at stations Keep up the good work devs!
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:08:00 - [104] Originally by: Julia Reave you have to agree it looks like it is for the money, and I guess it is!? Let us know... This is from the dev blog: "It's really simple at its core. If EVE is successful in China, the revenue which would become available to fuel the evolution of EVE would skyrocket." I think its stupid to still go on about it being for the money. The comment that Redundancy made should make it bloody obvious he feels alot for the game. --- The Eve Wiki Project
Bratwurst0r	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:08:00 - [105] ok, maybe sometimes critics are bitter to read...BUT...you for sure will learn more from it then from fanboyposts. as long as you keep up the work and try to perform better, the community will be greatfull. BUT...if you dont fix small bugs and things that are anoying in everyday playing, then the normal users think that you dont put that much effort into it after all. maybe its time that for once you take the postings about little anoying bugs and needed features serious...and putting them on the todo-list for 2010 is not. (and dont come up with "but we have devs for this and devs for that"...because after months and months of waiting i have to believe its hot air...put more effort into it)
Reatu Krentor	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:09:00 - [106] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/05/2006 19:52:38 Originally by: Redundancy To be perfectly honest, I've felt like a demonized punching bag for the last week. I'm pretty used to harsh criticism about features, ideas, and speculation that usually involves us intentionally designing features in the way that person hates most, but those bitter posts about us only being in it for the money, not caring about Eve etc are always incredibly painful to read. Sometimes its easy to forget you guys are normal human beings. Its very easy to just type anything without considering that you devs actually read this... I think we all love this game so much that the feelings get too strong sometimes. I never said anything about the money It's true, we can be harsh, but we're harsh cause we care, if we didn't care we wouldn't be posting, prolly wouldn't even be here, would've just left after a while. Now, can we have those tier 2 bc's now, I can wait for the rest(mmm sexeh minnie BC ). - phew! dodged the mods on this sig!
Julia Reave	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:14:00 - [107] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Julia Reave you have to agree it looks like it is for the money, and I guess it is!? Let us know... This is from the dev blog: "It's really simple at its core. If EVE is successful in China, the revenue which would become available to fuel the evolution of EVE would skyrocket." I think its stupid to still go on about it being for the money. The comment that Redundancy made should make it bloody obvious he feels alot for the game. Obviously they (not Redundancy alone) don't feel enough for the game not to compromise its ideals, be it for money or for whatever. At least some people do seem to feel more for the game than its developers...
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:20:00 - [108] Originally by: Julia Reave Obviously they (not Redundancy alone) don't feel enough for the game not to compromise its ideals, be it for money or for whatever. At least some people do seem to feel more for the game than its developers... The split shard is because of technical and political reasons. It doesnt have anything to do with love for the game. You cant stand by your original ideas if they cant be done within reasonable technical efforts. I understand that you are disappointed but dont attack the devs personally please. At least I would prefer you didnt since I already feel bad for bashing them the whole week about not commenting on Kali... --- The Eve Wiki Project
Julia Reave	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:33:00 - [109] Edited by: Julia Reave on 18/05/2006 20:34:45 Edited by: Julia Reave on 18/05/2006 20:34:16 Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Julia Reave Obviously they (not Redundancy alone) don't feel enough for the game not to compromise its ideals, be it for money or for whatever. At least some people do seem to feel more for the game than its developers... The split shard is because of technical and political reasons. It doesnt have anything to do with love for the game. You cant stand by your original ideas if they cant be done within reasonable technical efforts. I understand that you are disappointed but dont attack the devs personally please. At least I would prefer you didnt since I already feel bad for bashing them the whole week about not commenting on Kali... If you had read what I posted further above, you would know, that I don't think they owe anything to the Chinese people and if some or many of them can't play for whatever reason (internet censorship, laws...), then they can't play...no reason to give up the one world thing...only reason could be, well we know by now...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ or is it because they love the Chinese so much that they just had to share Eve with them even if its ideals go down the drain in the very process? Sorry, the more I get into this, the more I am angry at the whole thing...you're right, though, I should stop bashing, everything has been said...and it wouldn't get any friendlier... So what technical and political reasons prevent them from sticking to and growing on Tranquility only? I am just seriously disappointed...and sad...
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:40:00 - [110] Salvaging was supposed to generate income for Pirates. By allowing everybody to salvage NPC wrecks you will just cause more inflation, still leaving pirates way at the bottom of the totem pole. Also, please make sure we get some bug fixes before all this new stuff comes out, things like: 1) logging out while cloaked 2) logging out inside interdiction spheres 3) Interdiction spheres canceling each other out 4) Carriers + skiffs AND/OR cyno fields next to stations The items above are making piracy less and less profitable every day. Salvaging was one of my last hopes, but you dumbed it down to include npc'ers. Shamis
Vaugue	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:42:00 - [111] My biggest complaint is performance and bugs. I quit for almost a year to begin with and just came back to check out the game. 2 massive hardware upgrades and the game so far has been a month of near unplayable conditions. Some will say it's much better and im full of it for saying this, but is that because it was really bad when i wasn't here? Honestly performance is on the same level as a year ago and if it takes 2 major upgrades to keep it at that level of performance then i will be going.. Fluff is good i don't complain about fluff (content) buf if you keep stuffing it with more fluff without keeping the seams intact eventualy it's going to explode. Fix and balance what you got imo before you add more. I honestly don't see myself staying here .. though i broke down and bought a 90 day time card for some isk. I will probably just cram 90 days of skills and come back in yet another 8 months to a year. For me it's not about the fluff or the eye candy. It's about performance and the current mechanics working. What good is fluff if you can't play it to it's extreme or the way it was meant to be. Another thing that puzzles me is when i watch any Eve video's the game looks ultimate and smooth (almost decieving) and i wonder how? I have a brand new machine with very near to top of the line specs (yes of course all my drivers and such are updated) and i don't see the performance even close to those videos (in aspects to smooth combat)I have sweet detail (graphics).. but all my combat and performance is a chop-a-thon ========================= My Space Eve-Bay
Joerd Toastius	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:43:00 - [112] Originally by: Jim McGregor Im never rude and I agree there is no need for that. Wasn't talking about you specifically, d/w Originally by: DigitalCommunist I'm going to be blunt here, the dev blog is a collection of press releases and forum tidbits all rolled up into one. If you've been paying any sort of attention to EVE, reading it tells you absolutely nothing new. A bunch of people were screaming for a Dev Blog because the press at E3 had been told stuff that the players hadn't. Oveur does a dev blog confirming all the stuff mentioned and hinted at at E3 and elaborating upon a lot of it and... people complain that it's just confirming and expanding upon the stuff that was already mentioned to the press at E3. Now I remember why I cut back on my posting here - rationality is irrelevant in most discussions.
Kraven Kor	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:46:00 - [113] EVE ON LINUX??! Strength through Unity, Discipline, and Honor!
Sha'ezza Kalathrey	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:53:00 - [114] Well, this is an impressive amount of hate and bad feeling concentrated into a single thread. Not to mention abject stupidity and lack of common sense. Lets see: "ccp are only going into china for the money" Well of course they are, wtf do you expect? A game to be made and hosted for free, while the devs eat out a rubbish bin? The only way a company, any company, can expand a game of this complexity is to increase the number of people working on it. To do that they have to hire more people. And how else do you think they can afford to double the number of people working at the company? I am also impressed at the amount of knowledge being demonstrated by the community about a feature non of us have experienced yet: the integrated voice system. You all claim its a bad idea, and its lags etc etc. Yet not one of you has experienced it in any way. Personally, I am going to wait and see, not least because we know the devs play as well as work, and I cant see them implementing anything that would degrade performance as badly as you doomsayers say. Also, if its that bad on your FPS, DONT F*ING USE IT, NOONE PUT A F*ING GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO MAKE YOU. If I didnt love eve so much, I'd seriously consider quitting after reading this thread full of BS.
Arachnofobia	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:59:00 - [115] Edited by: Arachnofobia on 18/05/2006 20:59:39 Originally by: Sha'ezza Kalathrey Well, this is an impressive amount of hate and bad feeling concentrated into a single thread. Not to mention abject stupidity and lack of common sense. Lets see: "ccp are only going into china for the money" Well of course they are, wtf do you expect? A game to be made and hosted for free, while the devs eat out a rubbish bin? The only way a company, any company, can expand a game of this complexity is to increase the number of people working on it. To do that they have to hire more people. And how else do you think they can afford to double the number of people working at the company? I am also impressed at the amount of knowledge being demonstrated by the community about a feature non of us have experienced yet: the integrated voice system. You all claim its a bad idea, and its lags etc etc. Yet not one of you has experienced it in any way. Personally, I am going to wait and see, not least because we know the devs play as well as work, and I cant see them implementing anything that would degrade performance as badly as you doomsayers say. Also, if its that bad on your FPS, DONT **ING USE IT, NOONE PUT A **ING GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO MAKE YOU. If I didnt love eve so much, I'd seriously consider quitting after reading this thread full of BS. QFT
Hakera	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:59:00 - [116] My main gripe atm is the patching frequency, it has of late become something where the seasons roll by faster than patches do. Something if my memory serves CCP said would never happen again back in 2004. It has nothing to do with new content, its the bug fixes and balancing changes which concern me. With this summer drought before part one of a big expansion you risk a lot by making everyone wait seven months between patches. Allowing eve to go stale so you can roll everything into one build is a dangerous juggling act. Once upon a time we had a mini-patch released every couple of weeks, most balance changes as my non-informed understanding goes are simple attribute changes to the item db rather than code based. I cant say with any certainty on bugs etc but I do wonder how many fixes have been checked out as ready to deploy? Must we wait till september for those? I would not mind some confirmation that between now and september, we wont be experiencing a severe drought. Summers are quiet as is in eve, but i wonder how many would of 'died of thirst' by then (sorry for analogies)
Matthias DuBastyra	Posted - 2006.05.18 21:05:00 - [117] Edited by: Matthias DuBastyra on 18/05/2006 21:08:39 Good Job, Devs! Way to keep us in suspense! I'm glad you guys had fun at E3. It sounds like you did. I toast my rum and coke to you and to Sha'ezza Kalathrey (Well said!): "I WANNA TAKE YOU TO A SPACEBAR, SPACEBAR." I am very excited about reverse engineering and in-game voice chat. I understand you guys have your hands full but I am still one happy customer. So to everyone who has a roman candle up their arse, I say, "Just, light the fuse and push-off already." This game rocks (and i don't say that for just the asteroids ) you should try playing it instead of criticizing it. With that said, I'm gonna go find a pirate and grief him by logging off cloaked. LMAO! Matthias DuBastyra Imperiadux of House Draconis
Hakera	Posted - 2006.05.18 21:07:00 - [118] Originally by: Redundancy To be perfectly honest, I've felt like a demonized punching bag for the last week. I'm pretty used to harsh criticism about features, ideas, and speculation that usually involves us intentionally designing features in the way that person hates most, but those bitter posts about us only being in it for the money, not caring about Eve etc are always incredibly painful to read. Its much easier to critique than compliment, especially on the internet. No one doubts you love eve and working for ccp. What people appear to be doubting is the wait we are going to have to endure till september for patches (even bug fixing ones) + content decisions so Oveur is the proverbial punch bag for this one :)
Dhin Xar	Posted - 2006.05.18 21:07:00 - [119] Originally by: Redundancy To be perfectly honest, I've felt like a demonized punching bag for the last week. I'm pretty used to harsh criticism about features, ideas, and speculation that usually involves us intentionally designing features in the way that person hates most, but those bitter posts about us only being in it for the money, not caring about Eve etc are always incredibly painful to read. Maybe some of this would go away if CCP weren't so incredibly pro-Microsoft.
Reatu Krentor	Posted - 2006.05.18 21:11:00 - [120] Originally by: Vaugue Another thing that puzzles me is when i watch any Eve video's the game looks ultimate and smooth (almost decieving) and i wonder how? I have a brand new machine with very near to top of the line specs (yes of course all my drivers and such are updated) and i don't see the performance even close to those videos (in aspects to smooth combat)I have sweet detail (graphics).. but all my combat and performance is a chop-a-thon just quickly to ask, are you using anti-alliasing? if you have, try to avoid that. I've had that "chop-a-thon" when i had AA turned on by accident, only thing that still causes it after AA is off is the clouds in deadspace, missions and cosmos. - phew! dodged the mods on this sig!

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