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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2014.05.09 04:26:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:The amount of sad from the T2 BPO owners in the industry panel was high.
Are you referring to this person?
http://themittani.com/news/fanfest-industry-panel-discussion
Quote:A player told the panel that he had no idea about the upcoming changes when he paid for a particular T2 BPO for 90 billion isk. With the new ME changes, the BPO's value would be 18 billion isk less. In addition, because of the cost of this BPO, it would take him years to pay for it with the profit from it.
Because that sounds like another attempt to make people sell their T2 BPOs cheap by spreading panic, it also makes no sense. .
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Nanny State
The Conference Elite CODE.
4
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Posted - 2014.05.09 04:41:00 -
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350125GO wrote:
Regardless, they're not going anywhere in the near future, and they're not stomping out competition. I really wish the T2 BPOs are unfair crowd would speak with something other than emotion to try to prove their point.
The person that owns a BPO isn't your biggest competitor since there's likely 30 other manufacturers placing orders on the market. Call it what it is. People complain about T2 BPOs because they think it's unfair that someone can have a slightly higher profit margin than they can.
says the t2 bpo owner, it's hilarious how entitled you are. i suggest you use an alt to freighter your stuff from now on |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
446
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Posted - 2014.05.09 05:56:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:About the T2 removal subject.... what if someone helds a 10 yr, eve life long collection of T2 bpo's. Valued a tens of trils... would that be fair? I have yet to see a good argument for removing T2 BPOs. To me, the idea of removing something that almost works rather than correcting it's failings seems like idiocy.
In my mind all we need to resolve the actual issues are:
1. A simple means to distribute new, missing or destroyed T2 BPOs to active players through the invention mechanic, while keeping them strictly limited in number.
2. A continuation of the balancing effort so that any T2 products that are really unpopular get fixed. This leading to an increase in use and market volume such that their price gets set by invention rather than T2 BPOs.
3. An iteration on invention mechanics to make them less bad.
4. A willingness to politely ignore the complaints of people who are simply bad at the game and are choosing to blame anything other than themselves for their failings.
As far as I can gather, the only one that isn't already on the table is #1. So I would like to see that added to the agenda for the upcomming invention iteration.
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MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
313
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:36:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:1. A simple means to distribute new, missing or destroyed T2 BPOs to active players through the invention mechanic, while keeping them strictly limited in number. Fixing T2 production issues by making *more* T2 BPOs is going to be a really hard sell.
MDD
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
446
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:09:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:1. A simple means to distribute new, missing or destroyed T2 BPOs to active players through the invention mechanic, while keeping them strictly limited in number. Fixing T2 production issues by making *more* T2 BPOs is going to be a really hard sell. MDD Feel free to tell me what those T2 production issues are. |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
313
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:52:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:1. A simple means to distribute new, missing or destroyed T2 BPOs to active players through the invention mechanic, while keeping them strictly limited in number. Fixing T2 production issues by making *more* T2 BPOs is going to be a really hard sell. Feel free to tell me what those T2 production issues are. I didn't mean to imply *I* thought there were problems. I thought that's what you were proposing to fix. So, what "actual issue" are you proposing to fix with that change?
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
447
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:03:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:1. A simple means to distribute new, missing or destroyed T2 BPOs to active players through the invention mechanic, while keeping them strictly limited in number. Fixing T2 production issues by making *more* T2 BPOs is going to be a really hard sell. Feel free to tell me what those T2 production issues are. I didn't mean to imply *I* thought there were problems. I thought that's what you were proposing to fix. So, what "actual issue" are you proposing to fix with that change? MDD For each of those measures:
1. That the T2 BPO feature has lacked ongoing support from CCP and needs some work.
2. That some T2 stuff is bad.
3. That invention is bad.
4. That people complain a lot, because they are bad.
I must admit, that my measure for #4 isn't as comprehensive as I would like. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3347
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:01:00 -
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350125GO wrote:I really wish the T2 BPOs are unfair crowd would speak with something other than emotion to try to prove their point. lol, that's what you think I am? Not even slightly. I don;t much care wat you choose to spend your isk on. I don't think T2 BPOs should exist as a functional object anymore, sure, but I'm in no way a "they are unfair" kind of player.
Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:About the T2 removal subject.... what if someone helds a 10 yr, eve life long collection of T2 bpo's. Valued a tens of trils... would that be fair?
And dont start with the "lottery argument" as most T2 bpo's have swapped ownership by now. Valued by who? The value placed on T2 BPOs is not reflective of their true market value anyway, so if their marketable value decreases, their player driven price should be unaffected, surely.
The fact is though that as they iterate through invention, T2 BPOs will be phased out of use, so their actual value, as in the value of them as a usable item, will decrease. Whether or not that affects their collectors value is up to player demand, not based on how long it will take to turn a profit. They certainly shouldn't be specifically kept as a better way to manufacture T2 items just because you choose to value them at a ridiculously high value.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Big Lynx
Do you even Exist. Darwins Lemmings
418
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Posted - 2014.05.10 07:22:00 -
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Lucas, i like you. You have no idea what you are talking about. However, I like your posts. |
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2014.05.10 09:26:00 -
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Ok. I just watched the Industrial Panel from Fanfest. One player payed 90bill for an Acolyte II BPO. Everyone who knows a bit about T2 BPO sell prices knows that this is near a scam. Obv one sold this print to the poor fella who manipulated market before. The poor fella cried about his loss on isk and is scared about a removal. CCP Fozzie gives him hope concerning the patch that T2 BPOs will get a nice benefit over the BPCs with negative ME and CCP Greyscale did not say ANY word of removal or nerf. He only lost some words to the rageing player to sooth him. All in all T2 bpos will get better. It's about time cause there is a plenty of worthless T2 bpos. Every single player has the tools in hand for making isk and purchase a Tech2 bpo. Those who are not able to are those who are not trying to discuss objectively and rather show envy. |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3355
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Posted - 2014.05.11 22:34:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lucas, i like you. You have no idea what you are talking about. However, I like your posts. Lol, good job buddy. Coming from a guy who's joined an alt alliance of a group that you have to use quotes when calling them "mercs" who seem to be specifically set up to smacktalk badly at the CFC, that means next to nothing. If you like to address any specific points, please go right ahead. If not, just move along.
Agata Matahari wrote:CCP Fozzie gives him hope concerning the patch that T2 BPOs will get a nice benefit over the BPCs with negative ME and CCP Greyscale did not say ANY word of removal or nerf. He only lost some words to the rageing player to sooth him. Actually, Greyscale specifically states that their value will go down, and that they have been a problem that has needed a solution for a long time. He also states that they will try not to completely remove them in one hit, and there will be a transitional plan. It clear from this, what's been stated before and how to devs talk about them when you speak to them that they will not be around forever. The current value they have is an collectors value, it's not based on their actual ability to make isk like other BPOs are, so thinking they will maintain or increase in value forever is wishful thinking at best.
Agata Matahari wrote:All in all T2 bpos will get better. It's about time cause there is a plenty of worthless T2 bpos. Every single player has the tools in hand for making isk and purchase a Tech2 bpo. Those who are not able to are those who are not trying to discuss objectively and rather show envy and rage and crying for removal. so ridiculous kindergarden. They won;t get better though. CCP do not want them to exist, and the method for T2 manufacture that will be iterated is invention. With these changes, some of them will slightly increase in production ability through better ME differences, but will decrease without considerably higher risk by placing them in a POS. And you can say that anyone can get them however much you like, the fact is though that they are limited, not designed to exist in the current environment, and they will not exist in a functional state forever. Whether they remove them or stop their ability to produce while leaving them as a collectors item is uncertain, but they will be phased out of use in favour of invention. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
256
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Posted - 2014.05.12 01:17:00 -
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Lucas give it a rest, no one here is dumb enough to fool for your master's propaganda . .
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Big Lynx
Do you even Exist. Darwins Lemmings
418
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:48:00 -
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Hehe. Lucas the knowsitall forum wizard. To the "they will remove t2 bpos" argument: if they wanted to, they could have done it years before. If they do in some point in future eve would have no value for me anymore for two reasons: 1. Ive invested lots of isk in my collection 2. That would be drastic non-logic move. I have another proposal. Plz remove all limited ships because ppl are paying billions of isk for them only to spin them in station. I want one but have not enough isk, so remove them please.
I cant see the "problem" ppl have with t2 bpos. They take about 2% of market economy. The majority of 98% comes from BPCs. Most bpos dont give u a single isk of profit building them. So where is it OP or where is that great problem? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3355
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Posted - 2014.05.12 07:26:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Lucas give it a rest, no one here is dumb enough to fool for your master's propaganda . lol, how is it propaganda? TBH, I don't care. Go on thinking they are going to increase in value forever regardless. When they inevitably drop, which CCP explicitly stated in the industry panel (go check) you'll be the ones crying on here how you're entitled to refunds because you paid way over the odds for you BPOs that take 20 years to turn a profit on.
Big Lynx wrote:Hehe. Lucas the knowsitall forum wizard. To the "they will remove t2 bpos" argument: if they wanted to, they could have done it years before. If they do in some point in future eve would have no value for me anymore for two reasons: 1. Ive invested lots of isk in my collection 2. That would be drastic non-logic move. I have another proposal. Plz remove all limited ships because ppl are paying billions of isk for them only to spin them in station. I want one but have not enough isk, so remove them please. Go watch the videos. Go speak to the devs. Going forward, invention is being iterated, and T2 BPOs will be phased out. You can put your fingers in your ears and say"lalala Lucas is a liar" as much as you want, but it would take you no time at all go watch the industry panel and you'll see they state in there that T2 BPOs have been a problem for a long time they've needed to do something about, that they will do something about it, that they will decrease in value, and that the won't take them away without warning, but will transition them out.
The thing is, this is not new news, this is just the first time they've explicitly stated it. Anyone that thinks that T2 BPOs will continue their upwards spiral of value forever without ever being changed is delusional. Remember, that value is what you guys have placed on it, and nothing to do with it's market value. You can't expect their functional value not to change considering the industry methods they are using avoid their use. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Big Lynx
Do you even Exist. Darwins Lemmings
418
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:06:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:Lucas give it a rest, no one here is dumb enough to fool for your master's propaganda . lol, how is it propaganda? TBH, I don't care. Go on thinking they are going to increase in value forever regardless. When they inevitably drop, which CCP explicitly stated in the industry panel (go check) you'll be the ones crying on here how you're entitled to refunds because you paid way over the odds for you BPOs that take 20 years to turn a profit on. Big Lynx wrote:Hehe. Lucas the knowsitall forum wizard. To the "they will remove t2 bpos" argument: if they wanted to, they could have done it years before. If they do in some point in future eve would have no value for me anymore for two reasons: 1. Ive invested lots of isk in my collection 2. That would be drastic non-logic move. I have another proposal. Plz remove all limited ships because ppl are paying billions of isk for them only to spin them in station. I want one but have not enough isk, so remove them please. Go watch the videos. Go speak to the devs. Going forward, invention is being iterated, and T2 BPOs will be phased out. You can put your fingers in your ears and say"lalala Lucas is a liar" as much as you want, but it would take you no time at all go watch the industry panel and you'll see they state in there that T2 BPOs have been a problem for a long time they've needed to do something about, that they will do something about it, that they will decrease in value, and that the won't take them away without warning, but will transition them out. The thing is, this is not new news, this is just the first time they've explicitly stated it. Anyone that thinks that T2 BPOs will continue their upwards spiral of value forever without ever being changed is delusional. Remember, that value is what you guys have placed on it, and nothing to do with it's market value. You can't expect their functional value not to change considering the industry methods they are using avoid their use.
I watched the stream, but I think you misunderstood the whole situation there. Greyscale stated those vague formulations (like years before) cause this poor guy (who obv overpaid for an acolyte bpo; possible sale from first moon ;) ) almost started to cry and tremble or fall in a shock. If you have listened carefully, 30sec before, Fozzie encouraged him that his bpo will get more competitive through summer patch because of pos. ME and for his specific drone print, due to drone changes. There are far more important things to change in Eve than T2 bpos. Ccp wont do anything because of one whiner at fanfest who wanted a compensation for his loss because of his own miscalculations. That's utterly ridiculous. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3355
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Posted - 2014.05.12 09:09:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:I watched the stream, but I think you misunderstood the whole situation there. Greyscale stated those vague formulations (like years before) cause this poor guy (who obv overpaid for an acolyte bpo; possible sale from first moon ;) ) almost started to cry and tremble or fall in a shock. If you have listened carefully, 30sec before, Fozzie encouraged him that his bpo will get more competitive through summer patch because of pos. ME and for his specific drone print, due to drone changes. There are far more important things to change in Eve than T2 bpos. Ccp wont do anything because of one whiner at fanfest who wanted a compensation for his loss because of his own miscalculations. That's utterly ridiculous. lol, if that's the way you want to view it, that's fine, but that's a bit of a "hear what I want to hear" approach. Fozzie states that ME would make them better (which is true, but without putting your BPO in a POS, the overall production value change is down, due to differences in time for production). Greyscale reiterated what has been stated for year, which is that T2 BPOs are not ideal. He also explicitly stated in no uncertain terms that their value will go down. He also stated that they wouldn't remove them without a warning, and spoke of a transition period. That all leads to the conclusion that at some point hey will either stop existing or become non functioning. We spoke to the devs following the panel too, and got the same impression there. At present it can take many years to make back the cost of a T2 BPO, so anyone buying one for profit is gambling on CCP not changing that for at least that length of time.
And no, they won't change it because of one whiner, which is why they won't compensate when they make changes because of that whiner. That doesn't mean that T2 BPOs will continue as is, and it certainly doesn't mean they'll value them at the insanely inflated values that you guys value them at. Like extra materials though, T2 BPOs restrict what changes they are able to make to invention mechanics. Since invention mechanics are here to stay and going forward will be iterated on, they will have to phase T2 BPOs out. They are certainly not going to keep working around them forever just to keep a handful of entitled owners happy.
Honestly, what you invest in I couldn't care less about. If you make a bad call because you'd rather bury your head than listen to what is actually being said, that's your problem. I'll make sure to bookmark this post so I can point you to it in the future though. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Big Lynx
Do you even Exist. Darwins Lemmings
418
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Posted - 2014.05.12 09:43:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
.... and it certainly doesn't mean they'll value them at the insanely inflated values that you guys value them at. They are certainly not going to keep working around them forever just to keep a handful of entitled owners happy.
Sounds like you are really jealy. Not a good reason for a T2 Bpo removal. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3355
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Posted - 2014.05.12 10:31:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:.... and it certainly doesn't mean they'll value them at the insanely inflated values that you guys value them at. They are certainly not going to keep working around them forever just to keep a handful of entitled owners happy. Sounds like you are really jealy. Not a good reason for a T2 Bpo removal. LOL And we roll right back round to why T2 BPO discussions always go off the track. Because the people who bought T2 BPOs automatically assume that everyone else must just be jealous. We all must just be peasants right? We simply can't afford that few billion to get into the T2 market? What are you smoking? You aren't in some exclusive club, you've just bought a few items, that's all. I don't sit around saying "Oh lord, I wish I could afford T2 BPOs". If I wanted them, I'd buy them, but they simply aren't worth the investment. It would just be sunk capital that takes years to become profitable.
And no, the reason for T2 BPO removal is that invention changes are restricted due to the existence of T2 BPOs. It was suggested to separate the two out so T2 BPOs and the invented BPCs don't affect each other, but CCP stated that they wouldn't work around the issue like that. Looking at it the other way, do you think that the fact that you guys paid inflated prices for the BPOs and didn't take into account devaluation is enough of a reason to not remove them?
By the way, I'm not here campaigning for their removal. I don't particularly care about how people want to produce their T2s, so the BPO vs invention argument is not something I care to be involved in (though the more I see you guys kicking and screaming about it, the more I look forward to the explosion of rage when they do make a change). But CCP have made it clear where they stand, and that is with invention which will be iterated. So by all means keep stamping your feet and telling me how jealy I must be, but that wont change what will inevitably come to pass. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
448
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Posted - 2014.05.12 12:29:00 -
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I am so happy that i sold my collection a year ago. I am litterly giggling on the flour due all these entertaining tears here. Hahaha CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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Scratchy Nutz
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.05.12 12:42:00 -
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I don't have t2 blueprint, but all what I can read here is acute verbal diarrhea. On the top, Lucas kell. |
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flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2152
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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:10:00 -
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Scratchy Nutz wrote:IB4L I don't have t2 blueprint, but all what I can read here is acute verbal diarrhea. On the top, Lucas kell. here for all "experts": https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4549454#post4549454"When and how T II BPO's will be removed and if, how or in what form owners will be compensated is not known. CCP will make that information public if and when they decide it is time to do so. Until then, any thread on it can only be based on speculation. Hence, thread locked."
But then we are in the market discussion forum , wich besides loans IS all about speculative talk ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3360
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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:36:00 -
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Scratchy Nutz wrote:IB4L I don't have t2 blueprint, but all what I can read here is acute verbal diarrhea. On the top, Lucas kell. here for all "experts": https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4549454#post4549454"When and how T II BPO's will be removed and if, how or in what form owners will be compensated is not known. CCP will make that information public if and when they decide it is time to do so. Until then, any thread on it can only be based on speculation. Hence, thread locked." Oh no... My feels...
As flakeys said, this is pretty much what this forum is for. Discussion of changes that are potentially in the works and could affect market prices is a bit part of the forum. Now I don't much care if you want to read what I write or if you want to act on it. If you want to spend all of your isk on T2 BPOs, go right ahead, that's your choice. The guys that think T2 BPOs are going to increase in value, best of luck to them in their endeavors.
I'll stick with what I see though, which is that a huge change is coming to industry which opens up the opportunity for change (especially when they work on invention mechanics). Combine that with their specific mention of a reduction in value for T2 BPOs as well as a the vague comments that the status quo of T2 BPOs needs to and will change. None of that screams "good news for T2 BPOs". The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
350125GO
Transcendent Sedition Dustm3n
47
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:17:00 -
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Well Lucas, we all have to thank you for your truly altruistic posts, letting everyone know of the coming changes. Anyone committing this much time to speculation has a horse in the race. What's yours? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3360
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:43:00 -
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350125GO wrote:Well Lucas, we all have to thank you for your truly altruistic posts, letting everyone know of the coming changes. Anyone committing this much time to speculation has a horse in the race. What's yours? Sometimes people just discuss stuff, you know? Doesn't mean we are all sitting here scheming. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7370
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:02:00 -
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Scratchy Nutz wrote:IB4L I don't have t2 blueprint, but all what I can read here is acute verbal diarrhea. On the top, Lucas kell. here for all "experts": https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4549454#post4549454"When and how T II BPO's will be removed and if, how or in what form owners will be compensated is not known. CCP will make that information public if and when they decide it is time to do so. Until then, any thread on it can only be based on speculation. Hence, thread locked." The announcement was made at the industry roundtable, which I can only assume ISD didn't watch. However, that's now avalible on youtube so anyone can go see for themselves.
You can also just look at the flood of bpos on the sell order forum as well to see the rats fleeing the ship Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7374
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:45:00 -
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indeed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTyMhSKY9E
skip to 22:20
"i think we've been fairly consistently, publically of the opinion that we need to do something with t2 bpos for some time, I hope that's being taken into account in market prices..."
"...that value is going to go down in the future..."
good luck with the "this is all just a goonie lie" thing Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3024
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:18:00 -
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The new T2 BPO will be the 10/10 BPO's in capital ships. Wonder who will have a bunch of those? Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3364
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:50:00 -
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What? That makes very little sense. Are you saying that once T2s go, the new best BPOs will be capital ones? And the answer is everyone can have them. They are NPC sold, and with the new changes you'll actually be able to research them in high sec without having to pay hundreds of millions per month for a POS. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7382
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Posted - 2014.05.12 23:11:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:The new T2 BPO will be the 10/10 BPO's in capital ships. Wonder who will have a bunch of those? supercap ones
nobody ever bothered getting ME10 on a supercap bpo, that was insane
but certain individuals in certain RMT cabals might have supercap bpos that are heavily researched and would round up to nicely high levels Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1318
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Posted - 2014.05.13 11:32:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 11. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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