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TWSinc DirtWorx 0	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:02:00 - [1] - Quote I will try to keep my words to an minimum. Forgive my poor grammar and spelling. I think its a little unfair that incursion "rats" can scramble at warp gates. I was in low sec. Entered a system with incursion "rats" that were spawned at the gate. I was only trying to pass through the system. Tried to warp to the next gate at the other end of the system, and before I could warp I was scrambled by the incursion rats. I think that is a little unfair. I was in a Flycatcher for pete's sake. Not a slow ship but not the fastest. I am open to anybody's thoughts. Be them for or against this. As is I would like incursion rats not to be able to scramble at warp gates.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 4950	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:04:00 - [2] - Quote TWSinc wrote: I think that is a little unfair. Welcome to EVE Could/Should have used a scout. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
vyshnegradsky Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 173	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:09:00 - [3] - Quote Now you know there is an incursion there why don't you run it and make your isk back? This one's a bit over the edge guys. Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules. - CCP Falcon
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2592	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:09:00 - [4] - Quote TWSinc wrote: As is I would like incursion rats not to be able to scramble at warp gates. I would like you to stay out of lowsec. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Miomeifeng Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:10:00 - [5] - Quote Maybe you want players also unable to scramble you at gates? maybe a solo play mode without interaction with anything?
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3672	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:10:00 - [6] - Quote TWSinc wrote: I think that is a little unfair. I was in a Flycatcher for pete's sake Dictor gets taste of own medicine BewHew.tv * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 6370	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:11:00 - [7] - Quote Don't panic. Just note the names of the rats, move back to the gate and jump. Check what they do online and proceed accordingly.
Dave Stark 5149	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:13:00 - [8] - Quote some one link the htfu video.
TWSinc DirtWorx 1	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:18:00 - [9] - Quote Sure I may of been up to no good in low sec. Regardless of what I was up to I just don't seem to find what benefit it is to have rats scrambling at gates. Prevents "honest" players from moving about. So to say. Its one thing if it happend in a belt. But to have it happen at a gate when one is only trying to pass through. Idk. I understand even life can be unfair. I ask what benefit is there to this? Play smarter? I find it upsetting. I may be a "crybaby" for complaining but is my thoughts understandable even a lil bit? :/
Kristalll Valkyrie Professional Resources 212	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:19:00 - [10] - Quote I, too lost a Flycatcher to incursion rats. It was in nullse though. Kinda srems odd a destroyer can't get passed them, though. GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing.

Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 715	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:20:00 - [11] - Quote TWSinc wrote: I am open to anybody's thoughts. Be them for or against this. As is I would like incursion rats not to be able to scramble at warp gates. I'd very much like them to do this in HS too... Remove insurance.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 715	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:22:00 - [12] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: some one link the htfu video. /fixed Remove insurance.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3672	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:22:00 - [13] - Quote TWSinc wrote: I find it upsetting. I may be a "crybaby" for complaining but is my thoughts understandable even a lil bit? :/ Sure, IF you hadnt been flying a ship that does the exact same thing * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Bernie Nator 4U Services Inc. Upholders 1032	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:28:00 - [14] - Quote To be fair, you entered an incursion system. Which is a system they are actively invading and trying to take over. What you experienced was a gate camp really. It's just good tactics.
Nalelmir Ahashion Omegon 42nd Core 311	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:29:00 - [15] - Quote Incursion rats can scramble on gates? so cool ! I never knew that lol "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch
Benny Ohu Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence 3112	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:30:00 - [16] - Quote op when incursions were made, they were intended as events that would negatively effect everyone in the constellation, so that the players would all band together to fight them. that's why there's debuffs and warp scrambling rats
Nalelmir Ahashion Omegon 42nd Core 311	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:33:00 - [17] - Quote hmmm Eve + band together = something is wrong here. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2592	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:35:00 - [18] - Quote TWSinc wrote: I find it upsetting. I may be a "crybaby" for complaining but is my thoughts understandable even a lil bit? :/ No, they're not. I've lost plenty to incursion rats on lowsec gates. **** happens when you're flying in space. Next time check your journal for incursion systems and avoid them if it upsets you this much. You've learned the lesson and now you know. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
TWSinc DirtWorx 2	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:38:00 - [19] - Quote Bernie Nator wrote: To be fair, you entered an incursion system. Which is a system they are actively invading and trying to take over. What you experienced was a gate camp really. It's just good tactics. Sigh. Perhaps I should recite the "Serenity prayer" . I guess I have to accept it. Changing it could happen. With multiple votes. A gate camp ran by rats. Well that just makes me smile and helps with me accepting and understanding it. idk. I guess I just shrug at it. What else can I do but to learn from it. Right?
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2283	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:15:00 - [20] - Quote Mara Pahrdi wrote: TWSinc wrote: I am open to anybody's thoughts. Be them for or against this. As is I would like incursion rats not to be able to scramble at warp gates. I'd very much like them to do this in HS too... Baltec 1, is that you? This is not a signature.

DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 25578	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:20:00 - [21] - Quote Well, not much sympathy for the Devil here. You must of been sitting there or traveling really slow to have NPC's target and warp scram you at the gate. NPC's are much slower on the trigger compared to actual players and most players when traveling will warp to 0 anyway. Sounds like the new AI has beat you at your own game. DMC Faction Standing Repair Plan \| California Eve Players \| (Proposal) Bring Back 'The Endless Battle' Missions
Bienator II madmen of the skies 2566	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:28:00 - [22] - Quote i have to agree that once an incursion starts in lowsec the whole area is rather empty for the next week. Amamake had about a third of the population as the last incursion in the auga area started. Its just a pain to roam around since the NPCs don't follow normal eve fitting rules + killing them is a lot of effort while having no rewards (compared to a player driven gatecamp). eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Brewlar Kuvakei Adeptio Gloriae 277	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:36:00 - [23] - Quote What bugs me is that in both null and low they scram at gates yet in high sec they don't. Should probably petition that to get them to scram in high sec to as its clearly broken.
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 880	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:39:00 - [24] - Quote I don't think that's unfair. Why would it be? How do you quantify unfair anyway? You know what's unfair? My face! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures??
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 880	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:40:00 - [25] - Quote Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: What bugs me is that in both null and low they scram at gates yet in high sec they don't. Should probably petition that to get them to scram in high sec to as its clearly broken. I completely agree with this. It makes no sense that they don't. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures??
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 720	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:41:00 - [26] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Mara Pahrdi wrote: TWSinc wrote: I am open to anybody's thoughts. Be them for or against this. As is I would like incursion rats not to be able to scramble at warp gates. I'd very much like them to do this in HS too... Baltec 1, is that you? I suck at Megas. But thx for , . Remove insurance.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 720	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:42:00 - [27] - Quote Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: What bugs me is that in both null and low they scram at gates yet in high sec they don't. Should probably petition that to get them to scram in high sec to as its clearly broken. I fully support this. +1 Remove insurance.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 6229	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:43:00 - [28] - Quote TWSinc wrote: I will try to keep my words to an minimum. Forgive my poor grammar and spelling. I think its a little unfair that incursion "rats" can scramble at warp gates. I was in low sec. Entered a system with incursion "rats" that were spawned at the gate. I was only trying to pass through the system. Tried to warp to the next gate at the other end of the system, and before I could warp I was scrambled by the incursion rats. I think that is a little unfair. I was in a Flycatcher for pete's sake. Not a slow ship but not the fastest. I am open to anybody's thoughts. Be them for or against this. As is I would like incursion rats not to be able to scramble at warp gates. If you are flying in low sec, you should be prepared to be scrammed at a gate, no matter if it's peopleor npcs. You not being properly prepared is not the game's fault.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 720	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:44:00 - [29] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: You know what's unfair? My face! I told you not to take that yoghurt drink. That's what happens... Remove insurance.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 6229	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:47:00 - [30] - Quote Mara Pahrdi wrote: Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: What bugs me is that in both null and low they scram at gates yet in high sec they don't. Should probably petition that to get them to scram in high sec to as its clearly broken. I fully support this. +1 I would support it to but omg the level of crying that would insue would shut down the interwebs. I can't remember which DEV it was but I remember clearly that he said they talked extensivley about doing that (incursion rats on gates, along with other things like disabling CONCORD in incursions constellations) and decided against it when developing Incursions. Thus we have high sec incursions where CONCORD and the npc navies won't fight the people puportedly invading sovereign space but that will still shoot the crap out of a capsuleer who fires a civilian gatling gun at someone.



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