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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 19:54:00 -
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Gyaaah, lets hope youll be up in time for the BIG lottery draw.. or is that monday?
Either way, best of luck with the deployement.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:05:00 -
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 Originally by: videorecorder
Yeah. 1400's that outdamages Tachs hands down use no cap and tach2's that use redicilously 4125mw has no chance of keeping up. Yeah natural whiner indeed.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa *breathe* aaahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa *collapse*
Might want to run the numbers on tach and 1400 dps...
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 19/05/2006 21:22:27
1400mm II: 3575MW, 47tf
Base DPS: 12.84
Base Tracking: 0.009rad/s
48km optimal, 35km falloff
Tachyon II: 4125MW, 63tf
Base DPS: 20.736 <------ thats without the 5% boost
Base Tracking: 0,0139205 rad/sec
53km Optimal, 20km falloff
The poor mistreated amarr 
As an amarr pilot (among other things) im ashamed to be associated with people like you in any way.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 19/05/2006 21:36:07
Ooo, how predictable. Ok lets run armgaeddon vs tempest!
It just so happends you can fit 7 tach IIs on geddon vs. 6 1400 IIs on pets and have about 50 grid left on either ship! ^_^
Again, no other skills applied - just base damage + ship bonuses (because im lazy).
1400 II: 44*(6.9*1.25)/(23.63*0.75)*6=128
Tach II: 48*(5.4)/(12.5*0.75)*7=186 <- again, this is without 5% boost
So, with that over, and as someone who flies amarr about 50% of the time, let me say it again: Oh, the poor, mistreated amarr.
I think that counts as a tech II spanking.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 19/05/2006 21:42:22
Please, go home, youre only making a fool of yourself :)
BTW, are you related to Detaurus by any chance?
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 22:04:00 -
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Well, that expalins it then, youre both woefully misinformed whiners who ignore facts ^_^
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 22:15:00 -
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Ship bonus changes wont make it in because of issues with changing when not doing a full contect update. This has been stated by tux (repeatedly) in various forums sections, and the changes are highlited as "this wont make it" in his original post in ships & modules and have been for days.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 19/05/2006 22:44:53
Edited by: keepiru on 19/05/2006 22:40:49
Originally by: qrac
O RLY?
HAHAHAHA
Whoops wrong about that 
Doesent change the facts video: Youre *WRONG* about 1400 IIs doing more damage, youre *WRONG* about the ship bonuses making a difference to the above - geddon does 50% more dps - and youre *WRONG* about the tempest's uber anti-laser shield tank.
Do you actually have any valid arguments, or are you just here for a leisurely troll?
Lets sum it up, since you obviously cant read. Base dps with ship bonus applied:
Tempest: 128dps, no grid mods
Apoc: 165dps, no grid mods <- pre 5% boost
Geddon: 186dps, 1 RCU II <- pre 5% boost
So, how *exactly* does the 1400mm howitzer omgwtfpwn the tachyon beam in damage?
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.19 23:00:00 -
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Ill repeat the question, and this time clearly and slowly, so even you can understand.
How exactly, given the above-stated facts, do 1400mm howitzers outdamage tachyons?
And furthermore, how is "you dont fit tachs on a geddon noob" a valid arguent, given that current tachs outdamage 1400s by such a large margin and yet only do 1% higher dps than megabeams? Especially given that *you* are the one who brought up ship bonuses.
1st you argue that 1400s outdamage tachs. when proven wrong, you mewl about ship bonuses... proven wrong again you fall back to "you dont fit that on that".
Please make a coherent argument.
I await your illuminating answer with eagerness.
Sincerely yours,
keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.20 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: videorecorder
Obviously you never flown both races.
Thats funny, I was just thinking how it must be nice to be decisive enough to specialize in 1 or 2 races instead of flying all 4 equally (badly) like i do 
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.20 19:40:00 -
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Well, im trying to see the good side - now they suck so hard they have no excuse for not giving them that damn 4th bonus =P
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.21 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 21/05/2006 00:19:39
Mmm, well I think the BS beams are fine - I mean, you can fit a full rack on 'poc with AWU 5, which is about what you can do on the 'pest.
The ones that are really screwed are frig beams. You can mount a full rack of beams on a prophecy, the maller was kept from doing it because double 1600 plate pulse mallers were goddamn silly - this was at the time of the MK2 project. Perhaps its time to give the maller & omen a little more grid, but if you take a hard look most turret cruiser get shafted viz. fittings compared to BC/BS and quite a lot of frigs - its a class-wide problem still... overplating is not an excuse anymore with what 1600 plates do to your agility.
Frig beams... they just need to completely reworked. Thing is every time someone manages to draw a comment about them from devs its "o, that would be a lot of work we'll do it next patch".
Something to propose in ships & modules when this patch is in and settled and tux is more receptive, would go well along with a BC agility boost 
I also believe the brutix should be able to fit rails and blasters as easily as a megathron does, but arguably its powerful enough in fittings right now, and it would only make the comparison to deimos & thorax more painful.
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