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Talia Valta
Valta Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:19:00 -
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Hey all,
Last night I paid a visit to the Bonus room in the Angel Extravaganza mission.
I warped out pretty quick as a couple of those cruise missiles took my shields down to pretty much half way.
Do you guys run this room for the extra ISK and loot?
What do you use normally?
I guessing getting my tank skills higher and improving my modules to tech 2 or higher would allow me to survive longer.
Does any of you guys have any tips for this room?
Except for take out the cruise batteries of course, 
Thanks in advance. |

afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:41:00 -
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Kill the towers first, have a good level of tank and/or bring a friend.
As a very rough guide, if it takes you more than 25 minutes to get to the bonus room from the first one, you're probably ill equipped to handle it (stupid, hero mad tank super low DPS fits aside).
Timings may be slightly off as it's been a while for me. |

chaosgrimm
Universal Production and Networking Services
97
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:42:00 -
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In a vargur I can just tank the room up close.
I haven't really done this on a low sp toon, but would imagine that using long range weps, killing the cruise towers, then jumping via MJD would work.
Also, the low SP ppl these days can use mobile depots. If anything plant one of these in room V and refit some long range weps / additional tank (cruise towers deal EM dmg) |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
843
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:54:00 -
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Talia Valta wrote:What do you use normally?
Raven Navy Issue with 3 hardeners (I use 1 omni, 1 kinetic, 1 explosive), a medium B-Type shield booster, and a T2 shield boost amp.
Talia Valta wrote:Does any of you guys have any tips for this room?
Burn away in the opposite direction of the towers after you land because the closer the rats come, the more damage they do. Take out the towers first, then any of the ships target painting you. It's safe to have your drones out, they won't be targetted after they've targetted you. Leave the Seraphim til last or you'll spawn in extra battleships. |

Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:05:00 -
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With low tank there is not much to think about, missiles hurt, i was successfull once jumping away past the cruise range (~150km) then tanking the sentrys and incoming missiles from ships until i managed to snipe them.
Tricky , but doable, still probably better to invest in tank skills and mods or skip altogether :)
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
343
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:27:00 -
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what I do is basically immediately as I land fly on the opposite way from the towers then along the way I kill the frigs and small ships. from there I kill the bigger ones. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
351
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:13:00 -
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You need a good tank and/or the ability to kill off towers and rats quickly. Also, do not sit still! Keeping your ship in motion decreases damage, as a moving target is harder to hit. Kill any webbing/target painting rats quickly. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1913
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:20:00 -
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The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Talia Valta
Valta Industries
7
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:24:00 -
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I'll skip the room for now on until my tank is at something like 95% maxed out.
By then I should have something like a Tengu or a Golem to run Lvl 4's with ease.
Thanks again for the replies.
T. |

Wilkz X
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:43:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over.
Don't mean to hijack this post but I don't feel this needs me to make a separate thread. What are the new go-to money missions these days? I only ask as I am returning and know a few before hand would be greatly helpful. The only one so far that I have noticed is Gone Berserk is great with its ~20mill in loot |
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Talia Valta
Valta Industries
9
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:49:00 -
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Worlds Collide, the blockade, Angel Extravaganza and Smash the Supplier are all pretty decent for bounties.
Loot wise is all down to the local market.
Well that's how I see it.
Don't know if I'm wrong.
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chaosgrimm
Universal Production and Networking Services
99
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:41:00 -
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Wilkz X wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over. Don't mean to hijack this post but I don't feel this needs me to make a separate thread. What are the new go-to money missions these days? I only ask as I am returning and know a few before hand would be greatly helpful. The only one so far that I have noticed is Gone Berserk is great with its ~20mill in loot
My list would be: Damsel in distress Gone berserk Angel extravaganza Dread pirate scarlet The blockade Worlds collide
Honorable mention: Recon Buzz kill Various storyline missions
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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1018
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:12:00 -
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So I suddenly feel like I am the only one left doing 'The Assault' and not blitzing it, for the nearly 30mil in bounties. Probably not ISK/hr efficient if you don't have some high end skills and range, but for me it's done in under a tick so a good mission IMO.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1018
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:12:00 -
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Talia Valta wrote: ... Smash the Supplier are all pretty decent for bounties.
You mean tags right?
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2332
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:25:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over.
Yep, pretty much this. Also generally with the above CNR mentioned. I tend to get worlds collide a lot for some reason, a good mission.
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Talia Valta
Valta Industries
9
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Posted - 2014.04.30 05:15:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:So I suddenly feel like I am the only one left doing 'The Assault' and not blitzing it, for the nearly 30mil in bounties. Probably not ISK/hr efficient if you don't have some high end skills and range, but for me it's done in under a tick so a good mission IMO.
I've not run the Assault yet, or I propably have and just forgotten about it.
Smash the supplier does give good tags in the loot, which replaces the bounties, it's been a while since I ran that mission.
Just be careful as Smash the Supplier will take down your standing towards the faction in the mission.
o7 |

Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:49:00 -
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Talia Valta wrote:Hey all, Last night I paid a visit to the Bonus room in the Angel Extravaganza mission. I warped out pretty quick as a couple of those cruise missiles took my shields down to pretty much half way. Do you guys run this room for the extra ISK and loot? What do you use normally? I guessing getting my tank skills higher and improving my modules to tech 2 or higher would allow me to survive longer. Does any of you guys have any tips for this room? Except for take out the cruise batteries of course,  Thanks in advance.
Hi
I do the bonus room, and as you see I am a fairly new player, so low SP, and half of all the gear on my ships is T1, not T2, and of course I can't afford to use faction ammo or anything like that yet.
I do not do these fast, obviously that is impossible for me, but it works and I can complete it fairly reliably as follows:
1. Realize that the bonus room damage types are different from the rest of the mission, check eve-survival guide for it, it tells you which specific damage types the bonus room NPCs do.
2. After completing last room just before the bonus, I dock up to unload loot and refit for the bonus room.
3. When I refit for bonus room, I remove most of my DPS mods, put in place double hardeners and more cap regen and MWD instead of MJD. Must maintain at minimum 3 minutes of cap with all tank mods, applicable reps (shield or armor), MWD + weapons on. Also, go long range, forget doing max DPS.
4. Warp back in, take out the batteries and any frigs webbing me. I do not care for the single point scram as it does not affect MWD and the NPCs do not use the double point.
5. GTFO to safe distance once webs are down using the MWD and kite, kite, kite. Alternatively, you can GTFO to beyond scram range, dock up again refit again and get back in to kill whats left.
Its definitely not time efficient, but it works with low skills and low cost ships and equipment. I typically use a drake / raven on this character, rail Brutix or Domi on my other character, both same age, both low skill.
One tip FYI, if you use a kiting long range rail boat bring LOTS of ammo. I used over 14000 rounds on my Brutix once for the entire mission and structures at the end. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1914
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:43:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:So I suddenly feel like I am the only one left doing 'The Assault' and not blitzing it, for the nearly 30mil in bounties. Probably not ISK/hr efficient if you don't have some high end skills and range, but for me it's done in under a tick so a good mission IMO.
I don't blitz missions except the "kill this structure" type thing... I like the bounties, salvage, and loot. isk/hr is completely irrelevent to me (I can make REAL money coding on one screen while playing Eve on another). "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Shinzhi Xadi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2014.05.01 05:02:00 -
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Wilkz X wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over. Don't mean to hijack this post but I don't feel this needs me to make a separate thread. What are the new go-to money missions these days? I only ask as I am returning and know a few before hand would be greatly helpful. The only one so far that I have noticed is Gone Berserk is great with its ~20mill in loot
I only mission in amarr space, and there, the highest paying L4 mission by far, is Enemies Abound. Its 5 parts, 3 against gallente, 1 courier, and 1 against minmatar. It drops a LOT of gallente and minmatar tags, and a full clear, looting, and selling the tags at amarr or jita, averages me 150-200mil for the mission total. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
686
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Posted - 2014.05.01 06:40:00 -
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Wilkz X wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over. Don't mean to hijack this post but I don't feel this needs me to make a separate thread. What are the new go-to money missions these days? I only ask as I am returning and know a few before hand would be greatly helpful. The only one so far that I have noticed is Gone Berserk is great with its ~20mill in loot
If you can catch Scarlet before she warps off to the final room and get the implant (I have never managed it) then Dread Pirate Scarlet is good for 30 mill bounties and a 20 mill implant.
Unlike other implant drops (such as Zor who almost always drops rubbish but at random will drop a 35 mill implant) the Scarlet implant is apparently consistently a good one.
Another alternative is to run 0.5 security SOE IVs and choose the blitzable ones and make your ISK from the LP. |
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Talia Valta
Valta Industries
9
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Posted - 2014.05.01 08:06:00 -
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I might give the SOE missions a go now that all the hype for the Astero etc has died down.
Thanks all for the hints and tips about the bonus room.
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Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
50
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Posted - 2014.05.01 09:26:00 -
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Not much point now. LPs are still worth a bit more but the huge cash outs are gone. |

Talia Valta
Valta Industries
9
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Posted - 2014.05.01 10:58:00 -
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Gh0stBust3rs wrote:Not much point now. LPs are still worth a bit more but the huge cash outs are gone.
Good to know.
Thanks. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
690
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Posted - 2014.05.02 06:43:00 -
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Gh0stBust3rs wrote:Not much point now. LPs are still worth a bit more but the huge cash outs are gone.
I am still regularly getting over two to one ISK to LP. Sold an Astero at Jita today for 82 mill which is 64 mill profit for 30K LP. Sold a batch of Sisters core probe launchers yesterday, also at Jita, for about 42 mill each which is a similiar ISK ratio.
For a 0.5 mission Lanngisi mission I usually get about 9470 LP which works out at 20 million ISK for the LP versus 8 to 10 mill per mission for something like Fed Navy.
so .. no you do not get the 30 or 40 mill ISK per mission from LP like a few months back when all the "hype" was strong - but SOE missions are still worth running. |

Talia Valta
Valta Industries
9
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Posted - 2014.05.02 06:54:00 -
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Hasikan Maillok,
Thanks for the info. |

Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
183
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:59:00 -
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Wilkz X wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over. Don't mean to hijack this post but I don't feel this needs me to make a separate thread. What are the new go-to money missions these days? I only ask as I am returning and know a few before hand would be greatly helpful. The only one so far that I have noticed is Gone Berserk is great with its ~20mill in loot
The money missions are the ones that will kill your empire standings. The Enemies Abound chain is probably worth a half-billion. |

Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:57:00 -
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Xequecal wrote:Wilkz X wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:The last few times I ran it the dropped loot wasn't worth the time or cost. Salvage was meh... I don't even bother running it anymore. The days of AE4 being the Holy Grail of mission running is long since over. Don't mean to hijack this post but I don't feel this needs me to make a separate thread. What are the new go-to money missions these days? I only ask as I am returning and know a few before hand would be greatly helpful. The only one so far that I have noticed is Gone Berserk is great with its ~20mill in loot The money missions are the ones that will kill your empire standings. The Enemies Abound chain is probably worth a half-billion.
Lvl 5 missions still give out a lot when you total everything up, but its better to do these in a small group rather then solo. I do them on my low sec toon and we usually run 3 people + 1 of us has a cov ops scout / tackle alt in distance or gate entrances. The total return per time is pretty good.
To keep the standings from going down we do the following: get on a fast frig, go to multiple agents, pick missions that involve only and exclusively pirates and read mission guides before accepting to check for any standing loss. Then we run missions, if system is quiet we will do multiple missions in the same target system, less travel, more ISK per time. Turn in all missions.
Also, SOE missions will often raise your Gallente faction but not cause any faction loss.
Another option is to use a FW toon and pick missions against the faction you are already fighting anyways, sell the tags or buy stuff using them + LP and sell that.
Another option is the faction Epic Arcs, they vary in difficulty and have some huge pay outs, Mimmitar is easiest, Ammar 2nd, Gallente 3rd, Caldari is very difficult but its payout is really high, read up on them if you decide to go for 1. They do incurr some faction losses but you can offset that by alternating the chains and they can be repeated 1 time every 3 months after final completion. Also, they have no expiration timers on the mission offers.
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Bibosikus
Flowery Twats
189
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:37:00 -
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In the Midst of Deadspace 1-3 gives an average total of 40m from salvage and tags. Damsel in Distress average is 13.5m Mordus Headhunters is 18.5m Gone Berserk is 20-23m The Blockade is 14m Those are just a few from logs I started making last year.
As mentioned, generally the faction missions (which hurt your standings to someone(s)) are the most lucrative. Especially if you haul the tags to where people most need them and set up sell orders rather than just flog them. Even better if you have a support char who can use the tags to build shiny kit.
I have bases in good but quiet mission hubs in all four main faction space areas, with jump clones. That way I don't need to worry about passing up good faction missions, because I can just hop about to balance standings with minimum fuss. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
788
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:46:00 -
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Just finished the AE bonus room. Lots of BS bounties, I should have counted... After I turned in the mission, my last tick was 10 million ISK. It is solo-able with a medi-ocre Navy Raven.
That bonus room used to have a chance of dropping good lootz. The station or something, we got a Snake implant or Crystal implant, I don't recall the specifics. Back then it was worth over 300 mil, and split 3 ways it was a noobs dream come true. Many years ago... I don't recall when CCP nerfed the drop. |

Marc Callan
Nuclear Manhattan Limited
444
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:28:00 -
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After routinely getting routed in the AE bonus, I succeeded without a warp-out in an MJD, cruise-missile, passive/buffer-rigged Rattlesnake. My tactics were basically to jump, primary the missile towers, then lay down low-transversal drone fire on incoming rats until the MJD was ready to go again. "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt |
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