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Hlokk Skoggangur
Shoot Them Later Serious Callers Only
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:11:00 -
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Lola Shaboopie wrote:Carnia Astrael wrote: Pointless overblown waffle
wall of text aside, you have not explained your perverse, over done breasts on your avatar, which to some is much worse that saying curse words in chat. You are a confused 62 year old man if you do not see they hypocracy in that. Take your blind stabs at making people guilty of EULA violations and stuff them in your Depends Sanitary Undergarments. P.S. you may want to look up in the beloved EULA, that you are not allowed to discuss petitions, or any CCP mod interactions in this public forum. PPS: IBTL
This question really does need to be answered. There seems to be a slight disconnect between what this person says and what they actually do. Vis-a-vis; overdone fake internet boobs. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2274
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Posted - 2014.05.03 16:16:00 -
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Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Now go away before I taunt you a second time. "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
Pubbie Spy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.03 17:59:00 -
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Carnia Astrael wrote:Thank you Jack for sharing your thoughts , I am neither a child, being 62 years young, nor inexperienced, as I have played, and studied hundreds of games including most of the space sims ever created and played MMOS for all the years they have been around. I do not need your advice sorry, and it is not applicable to me in any case thanks. I work to support decency and fair play and respect and dignity in games of all kinds.
Words cannot shame or bully me which Is apparently what some of the posts in this thread seem to be about. I am comfortable in any game community and come and go as I please following and obeying and asking for the rules to be enforced when they are not followed by others. That is what makes a game fun and safe. Without that there is chaos, hate and rancor.
There are many safe and civil games. Why does Eve have to be as safe and civil? |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Shadow Cartel
695
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:27:00 -
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Carnia Astrael wrote:I had an unfortunate experience in chat today with rudeness crossing over the line to obscene insults and personal attacks. It appears the Mods will not enforce the rules..they gave an ambivilant response with no real reply. I will be moving on and leaving EVE most likely. A game with no standards of conduct is not a game it is a disaster waiting to happen. ADDENDUM: if you read this topic you may be surprised and even shocked as I was that my being the victim of flaming and trolling abuse in the Local Chat and reporting it here caused ME to be the target for four pages of mostly very negative and aggressively hostile posts. It still puzzles me a bit and was a sad experience. here is a portion of my final post as I now move on from this discussion look for my post on Page FOUR,...and good luck ..if you are the victim of abuse in the game PLEASE report it to the GMs thru Support right away, the topic to report under is at the very end of the topic list for Support Tickets, Harassment. Good luck and lets try to keep EVE a fun game Quote:I had no idea I would receive so much abuse here and personal attacks on my sensibilities, standards and right for a safe game environment as promised clearly by the EULA. It has continued now for four pages and may continue on. It is not pleasant to be so targeted and shamed in a public forum for no apparent reason. I have not committed a crime, or taken any right away from anyone, i have asked for the standards promised by the game to be upheld. I took action on that basis and am reassured that the moderators understand and will do what they decide to do. They do not report on results or actions. And I did not reveal the content of the attack to support that privacy.
Many here seem to feel empowered to blame me for caring for decency. That appears to be happening in our society as well. I cannot and do not hope to deal with it on that scale. But I do feel it is our responsibilty as mature adults who have inherited our culture to protect standards of decency in public areas, what you do in private and in your own personal communications is totaly your right as many here have stated. What happens in a public space where no one controls what may happen is based on Trust and agreed upon standards. Such standards forbid certain subjects due to their extreme nature and the upsetting imagery and nature of their content. I think maybe the ease of access of the internet and modern media has made such standards seem impossible. but I will not surrender my concern and care for this. I will not abandon the game or my beliefs. You are free to do as you wish but when you attack me and aggressively criticize me for asking for safely in a game that has clearly stated standards of play then you yourself are violating the rules against Trolling and flaming and being needlessly hurtful.
It has not been easy to endure this. I guess i have kept with this rather than run away because i think it may help some others who feel the same way and who may have been brutalized or bullied in the same way and were afraid to speak out.
I urge and encourage all who encounter speech and chat that violates the EULA rules to report it immediately. I don't think it is useful to talk about it here on the forums from the results of my effort :) but do please know some of us are doing our best to keep the game clean and as nice as it can be. Have fun, I plan to, and please think carefully about what you say and do, for even in a virtual fictional world, it has consequences and impact and you can cause both joy, fun and pain. Try to choose wisely. Take care and I wish you all well.
I was and am in the end very impressed by the very high quality of moderation by the Admins and GMs in this game it is superb and I am sorry that they have to deal with this kind of issue but I thank the stars they are here and are doing their best to give us a safe (not from Ganking and pirates )..... game to enjoy.
Direct harassment over things such as race, sex, social status, orientation etc is NOT tolerated under the EULA and under CCP's rules and codes of conduct. To say that Eve has no standards of conduct and is a "disaster" waiting to happen, well Eve's been a disaster waiting to happen now for well over 10 years.
In that 10 years players have created a universe that is incredibly harsh, unforgiving, and above all challenging. Do not sit here and insult players and devs unless you can give us concrete proof as to such "harsh" talk in local. I assume as well as everyone else you are not familiar with Eve's rather brash and unforgiving nature.
As a person you claim to be in your 60's (which I very much doubt) because someone in their 60's would have enough wisdom and maturity to just filter out garbage instead of feeding people and giving them a response. Here's a tip: Don't say anything back.
Eve is not your friend. Players are not your friend. This isn't a Facebook game. This is a game based in treachery, cruelty, and a certain reality others games do not give you. Therefore either adapt or move on. Eve isn't for everyone. I suggest you realize that rather quickly before insulting the entire playerbase over a game you do not understand. Visit my blog for all the latest in jeers and tears as well as news at http://hoistthecolors.org |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:06:00 -
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I can't decide whether to give the OP 0/10 for trying too hard, or 5/10 for getting so many responses. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
0mez
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
32
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Posted - 2014.05.04 10:40:00 -
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Had similar situations and reported them. Problem is CCP don't seem to want to enforce a lot of rules that they state in the EULA / Rules tho. The person who was abusing me constantly in game was making sexual remarks and such which quite frankly I would have thought would be a bannable offence for anyone, especially seeing as though EVE is rated at 12. I placed them on the ignore list in game so they started it on the forums, removing the mods edits of their posts.
But then there is the other type of person who goes around breaching every loop hole in the game to their advantage too, so it's not just the abuse side that CCP doesn't punish, people openly using game bugs to their advantage get away with it too (no matter how people many report them). |
Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
1741
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:42:00 -
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Carnia Astrael wrote:If we do not support standards there will be none and chaos leads to entropy NOT freedom.
Entropy? I don't even....
You need to harden the **** up, you thin skinned piece of rotten deer *****. |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:44:00 -
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I think that most of us can agree that there is a line between what is and isn't appropriate for public chat channels. We just differ on exactly where that line should be drawn. Without seeing what was actually posted that upset you so much, we can't really judge whether you were rightfully offended or you are just another crackpot off on a tangent.
If people here seem to be judging you harshly, it is probably because something in the neighborhood of 99.9% of people who post complaints similar to your own in these forums fall into the crackpot category, and turn out at the end to have been offended by actions which are just normal gameplay. EVE is designed to include treachery, theft, lies, con games, and all sorts of similar shenanigans. It is designed to be a fiercely competitive game primarily for an adult audience. This doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want without consequences, but you can't exactly expect to be left alone and never confronted by other players, either. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:55:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Hadewijch
Red Herring Industries
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:40:00 -
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350125GO wrote: There was a major incident back in 2005/2006 where a corp (or possibly alliance I don't remember which) was renamed by CCP because their name was the same as an anti-Chechen hate group that was active in the former Czech Republic. Bigotry is not illegal, but it doesn't mean we should tolerate it.
Seriously? Somehow I doubt that the Czechs would care about the Chechens at all, apart from being mildly annoyed when people mix them up. Also, I wonder what do you believe became of the Czech Republic.
But honestly, this sounds interesting. Do you have any further (correct) information on this? What hate-group was that? Thanks in advance. |
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
172
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Posted - 2014.05.07 19:05:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:Carnia Astrael wrote:post removed and thanks for that.
it is not a matter of freedom when it involves a clear use of prohibited graphic pornographic imagery and content to attack a player in trolling. Sorry you clearly have an overly liberal view of freedom and that is not a problem limited to EVE but to our current culture as well.
Have a nice day. Freedom is freedom, there isn't a spectrum to it. You have provided no proof of "graphics pornographic imagery" or "graphic content" or "trolling". All you've provided is your clear sense of superiority because of your own inability to manage yourself. You're the only one that chooses if you're offended.
*sips his coffee while peering out the window to see a blue sky over shining dew clinging to the grass*
Griefer tears, best tears.
You can try to redefine these things as much as you like - CCP is still going to enforce their rules when you get called out for breaking them. Good luck though. You'll just have to keep dealing with horrible people like us. 7o
P.S. You need to go back to reddit and fix your reply. Someone did not win CSM - clearly someone had too much faith that their viewpoint is the majority one. I noticed the HS carebear won, though.
;)
thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks |-áSteam: CoffeeRocks | thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=327221 |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
172
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Posted - 2014.05.07 19:11:00 -
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Tara Read wrote: Eve is not your friend. Players are not your friend. This isn't a Facebook game. This is a game based in treachery, cruelty, and a certain reality others games do not give you. Therefore either adapt or move on. Eve isn't for everyone. I suggest you realize that rather quickly before insulting the entire playerbase over a game you do not understand.
I'm your friend. <3
And I'm not OVERLY treacherous, and most certainly not cruel.
I always find it humorous that what I perceive to be such a minority of cruel players are convinced that they are the majority. Ah, but that's perception for you, a trixie devil its is. thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks |-áSteam: CoffeeRocks | thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=327221 |
Tar'z
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:51:00 -
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Can't stress how much I agree with this OP. Not even going to add anything, there's no point when CCP has shown they plan to do nothing about the childish and abusive behavior in this game.
I love the game and won't leave until a new space sim comes out. There are many players in-game who feel the same way and try to just ignore the bad apples. What happens though when another game comes out that matches up with EVE? What happens if they actually ban people for being indecent? I for one will be quitting EVE the day that happens. I reckon many will follow.
Some may say to just ignore them, or not care... but when the two biggest alliances in the game - whom routinely have CSM seats - promote homophobia, racism and childish behavior it becomes a game that's hard to enjoy in the long term. |
CraftyCroc
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
216
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:46:00 -
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I've not read the entire thread but to the OP - bans occur as do sanctions against those who breach the EUlA. I wouldn't quit over a few immature (but offensive comments in local chat). Block those that do and enjoy the game as you see fit |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
217
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:11:00 -
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Tar'z wrote:Can't stress how much I agree with this OP. Not even going to add anything, there's no point when CCP has shown they plan to do nothing about the childish and abusive behavior in this game.
I love the game and won't leave until a new space sim comes out. There are many players in-game who feel the same way and try to just ignore the bad apples. What happens though when another game comes out that matches up with EVE? What happens if they actually ban people for being indecent? I for one will be quitting EVE the day that happens. I reckon many will follow.
Some may say to just ignore them, or not care... but when the two biggest alliances in the game - whom routinely have CSM seats - promote homophobia, racism and childish behavior it becomes a game that's hard to enjoy in the long term. If someone targets you specifically and goes WAY over the top --> report them.
If it's just middle-school style silliness --> block.
With some exceptions, I prefer a game where the social aspect is primarily taken care of directly in-game by the players themselves.
As an example, a certain ex-sov holding alliance joined Faction Warfare for a few months.
I honestly don't remember seeing anything particularly offensive in local, but it was often full of annoying spamming and utterly moronic chatter.
Those guys were also on average terrible at PVP, I'm assuming at least partially because smart players would never join a group with such a high percentage of childish people.
So you reap what you sow I guess, which makes perfect sense to me in a sandbox MMO. |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
226
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:23:00 -
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Carnia Astrael wrote:I plan to request ESRB change EVE's status to a more restricted one to protect some standards of decency.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA......................................................................... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
The best thing about the Morality police is watching their eventual cascading failure of hypocrisy!
I find your pontificating severely lacking.
All that out of the way. Real harassment that crosses out of the game into the RL is wrong and should be summarily dealt with using the already available in-game tools.
Everything below that line is fair game in EVE. I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
179
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Posted - 2014.05.13 00:34:00 -
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Clicky I kinda enjoy the Trash talk. It's up to you if you continue to read it or not. If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough. |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2209
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Posted - 2014.05.13 11:45:00 -
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Thomas Builder wrote:Leto Thule wrote:This game is not for children. At its core, its a nasty game, about stealing, cheating, telling lies, and using every method available to put yourself ahead of the rest. I never quite get that argument.
Read the backstory and chronicles some time ... there are some really dark ones in there ... One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
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