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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.05.21 03:08:00 -
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i checked this forum today, and guess what? i found several treats all about making my tiny dominix even worse than it is today! i have no pg to use guns, enough cpu but no slots for missiles, and no cap to tank. and then i had to read statements by that tuxford, my nos get a counter module and my ecm will after each 20 secs have a 10 secs delay?
now i seriously need 6 launcher hardpoints, or more medslots, to counter that ecm nerf!
i mean, seriuosly, in the worst case my opponent has a nos counter and may have 10 SECONDS to do something on a barely weak ship! now in mind i can't nos him to run my own tank, neither than large hybrids, i can't tank, can't jam for that time, don't do alot dmg and have nothing left.
as i know giving the dominix 3 more medslots to counter that off-period would switch the nerf around to uselesness i would suggest adding 6 missile hardpoints and just 1 single more medslot to counter that lack of abilitys in a just-acceptable way. with theese changes i might have a chance against a dreadnought after the nerfs, even tho it will takes ages after and is a bit more risky, i would be willing to accept the nerfs under theese circumstances. but i'm sure many domipilots will see the changes as too slight, taking the abilitys against frigs completly off if not using tII missiles (what still not everybody can do). but hey, isn't it a start?
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DarK
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Posted - 2006.05.21 03:26:00 -
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what
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.21 03:26:00 -
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I think I just died a little on the inside when I read all of that as a fellow Eve player. 
Have you tried using your drones, sir?
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.21 03:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
I think I just died a little on the inside when I read all of that as a fellow Eve player.
Have you tried using your drones, sir?
Lol.
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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.05.21 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
I think I just died a little on the inside when I read all of that as a fellow Eve player.
Have you tried using your drones, sir?
yes
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Ernest Graefenberg
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Posted - 2006.05.21 04:30:00 -
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Were they mining drones?
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Hippo117
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Posted - 2006.05.21 04:30:00 -
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what?
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Cruz
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Posted - 2006.05.21 04:36:00 -
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Yes then they shold have the dominix grow little spikey thing sall over the place and rename it "The Raven"
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velocoraptor
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Posted - 2006.05.21 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Beowulf Scheafer
i checked this forum today, and guess what? i found several treats all about making my tiny dominix even worse than it is today! i have no pg to use guns, enough cpu but no slots for missiles, and no cap to tank. and then i had to read statements by that tuxford, my nos get a counter module and my ecm will after each 20 secs have a 10 secs delay?
now i seriously need 6 launcher hardpoints, or more medslots, to counter that ecm nerf!
i mean, seriuosly, in the worst case my opponent has a nos counter and may have 10 SECONDS to do something on a barely weak ship! now in mind i can't nos him to run my own tank, neither than large hybrids, i can't tank, can't jam for that time, don't do alot dmg and have nothing left.
as i know giving the dominix 3 more medslots to counter that off-period would switch the nerf around to uselesness i would suggest adding 6 missile hardpoints and just 1 single more medslot to counter that lack of abilitys in a just-acceptable way. with theese changes i might have a chance against a dreadnought after the nerfs, even tho it will takes ages after and is a bit more risky, i would be willing to accept the nerfs under theese circumstances. but i'm sure many domipilots will see the changes as too slight, taking the abilitys against frigs completly off if not using tII missiles (what still not everybody can do). but hey, isn't it a start?
/Signed of course, but, as a domi pilot, I wanna add something you (obviously) just forgot: Add 2 more ship bonuses to Domi
1. 20% per lvl dmg of all missiles
2. 20% per lvl missile precision thingy bonus (same as cerb I think)
3. 20% per lvl missile rof
(yeah I know these are 3, but heck, it's the only way to unerf the upcoming Domi nerf).
Meh, when those T2 sarcasm detectors BPO's come out, they'll sell like hot bread (or Domi's)
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:48:00 -
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Without nos Domi is a very weak ship. Sure, you can fit guns too, but it has way too little grid. Domi needs a grid increase if they plan to make people use somethign else thna Nosdomis.
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Xylur
Without nos Domi is a very weak ship. Sure, you can fit guns too, but it has way too little grid. Domi needs a grid increase if they plan to make people use somethign else thna Nosdomis.
cry me a f****** river
try a damn scorp if those changes go thru then come back and complain ffs
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ELECTR0FREAK
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 21/05/2006 09:37:54
As a Domi pilot and a carrier pilot with a crapload of drone skills, I think its funny that people think the Domi is being nerfed.
First off, the Nos never should have become the win button it is in PVP now. It has become ridiculous.
Second off, as a Scorpion Pilot also with BS 5 and ECM skills, ECM is too effective currently as it's too difficult to counter.
Third, the Domi will survive just fine in spite of these changes because of something called VERSATILITY. The Domi has the ability to throw all sorts of whacked out drones at the enemy. I set up Domi that does 250 DPS at 80km with sentry drones and railguns, while also being able to launch heavy drones for a nasty surprise to anything that got close. It didn't have Nos OR ECM on the setup and has been an awesome ship. Not to mention the fact that it can launch T2 light or medium drones in case Interceptors or other smaller craft show up. If that isn't a well rounded ship I don't know what is.
So, learn to use the Domi without a pile of Nos and ECM dumped on it. I had no trouble. To be honest, with the way Nos and ECM is right now, the Domi is overpowered. These changes will make it into the ship it's supposed to be, a versatile ship that can adapt to almost any situation.
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Dog Food
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:46:00 -
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Drones + heavy electron blaster cannons yup..they work...might need an RCU for MWD and definatly a dam cap injector and some other cap crap.
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:52:00 -
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Real men fit guns on their Domis.
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 21/05/2006 09:37:54
As a Domi pilot and a carrier pilot with a crapload of drone skills, I think its funny that people think the Domi is being nerfed.
First off, the Nos never should have become the win button it is in PVP now. It has become ridiculous.
Second off, as a Scorpion Pilot also with BS 5 and ECM skills, ECM is too effective currently as it's too difficult to counter.
Third, the Domi will survive just fine in spite of these changes because of something called VERSATILITY. The Domi has the ability to throw all sorts of whacked out drones at the enemy. I set up Domi that does 250 DPS at 80km with sentry drones and railguns, while also being able to launch heavy drones for a nasty surprise to anything that got close. It didn't have Nos OR ECM on the setup and has been an awesome ship. Not to mention the fact that it can launch T2 light or medium drones in case Interceptors or other smaller craft show up. If that isn't a well rounded ship I don't know what is.
So, learn to use the Domi without a pile of Nos and ECM dumped on it. I had no trouble. To be honest, with the way Nos and ECM is right now, the Domi is overpowered. These changes will make it into the ship it's supposed to be, a versatile ship that can adapt to almost any situation.
well personally, i feel ecm on a dedicated ecm boat with damn good skills should be nard to counter, else whats the damn point of flying the ship?
far as im concerened, ecm as such is overpowered currently, but i just hope that in 'rebalancing' it, they dont make it less efective on the ships built to use it.
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Xylur
Without nos Domi is a very weak ship. Sure, you can fit guns too, but it has way too little grid. Domi needs a grid increase if they plan to make people use somethign else thna Nosdomis.
Haha.
It's a little known fact that a blasterdomi tanks as well as a blasterthron, does 200-300 more dps, and has more mids. 
Tarkin > Omfg, frigs are such bs.
Red 5 > lolol, lern 2 play plz noob
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ELECTR0FREAK
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 21/05/2006 10:21:07
Originally by: babylonstew
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
--Stuff I said--
well personally, i feel ecm on a dedicated ecm boat with damn good skills should be nard to counter, else whats the damn point of flying the ship?
far as im concerened, ecm as such is overpowered currently, but i just hope that in 'rebalancing' it, they dont make it less efective on the ships built to use it.
^ Agreed. My opinion is, if you want to fit to counter ECM, you should be able to counter it fairly effectively. Otherwise, you should remain vulnerable to it.
Basically, if the enemy knows I'm going to be attacking him in a Scorp, he should be capable of fitting his ship to counter me (not just slap on some ECCM along with a hope and a prayer). Otherwise, he should end up having the utter crap jammed out of him. 
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 21/05/2006 10:21:07
Originally by: babylonstew
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
--Stuff I said--
Stuff i said
^ Agreed. My opinion is, if you want to fit to counter ECM, you should be able to counter it fairly effectively. Otherwise, you should remain vulnerable to it.
Basically, if the enemy knows I'm going to be attacking him in a Scorp, he should be capable of fitting his ship to counter me (not just slap on some ECCM along with a hope and a prayer). Otherwise, he should end up having the utter crap jammed out of him.
ok, i agree with you on that point.
im just worried that once they finish screrwing around with ecm, scorp, falcon, rook and bb are going to be close to pointless is all, and as i fly all of em, ill be a tad ticked off
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.05.21 11:09:00 -
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/me wonders if sarcasm and irony aren't taught to children at all anymore these days?
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schurem
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Posted - 2006.05.21 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
/me wonders if sarcasm and irony aren't taught to children at all anymore these days?
apparently they arent, neither are humility and basic logic 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.21 11:26:00 -
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i know this is a joke, but it isn't funny, and it is badly spelled and written.
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fkingfurious
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Posted - 2006.05.21 12:30:00 -
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I never fit ECM/NOS on a dommie, its just far too ghey. 6x350 t2's, bouncer sentry drones and a shield tank with 3 magstabs is the setup of kings. It's got just about the highest dp's of anything ive ever flown. And shield hardeners on dommies also look faintly comic.
Anyways, screw what the ECM nerf is gonna do to dommies. What in gghey hell are the scorpions gonna do once u take away there only toy? i guess they have to shield tank all over you and make u feel dirty and ashamed so u leave them alone.
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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.05.21 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
i know this is a joke, but it isn't funny, and it is badly spelled and written.
so i managed to get into your world? damn
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Mobyus
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Posted - 2006.05.21 19:21:00 -
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Maybe you should try flying a megathron instead if you want to use guns.
Dom is drone boat - set it up for tanking and train your drone skills up.
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Flash Landsraad
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Posted - 2006.05.21 19:32:00 -
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Does anyone have a link to the ECM changes and NOS counter module posts?
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.05.21 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Flash Landsraad
Does anyone have a link to the ECM changes and NOS counter module posts?
ECM is in the sticky named EW. There have been no NOS post other than a short comment by tux saying he is looking into nos counters and that he prefer some counter module over adding tracking/signature.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.05.21 21:30:00 -
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Must be a joke post.
It MUST.
/emote imagines a missilespamming, jamming droneboat 
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2006.05.21 21:33:00 -
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Post constructively or not at all 
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.05.21 23:51:00 -
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The Domi is currently the best battleship in the game.
Arguably its better than any of the faction battleships.
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Triscuit
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Posted - 2006.05.22 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Beowulf Scheafer
Originally by: HippoKing
i know this is a joke, but it isn't funny, and it is badly spelled and written.
so i managed to get into your world? damn
Oh... ZING.
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