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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:13:00 -
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I have a feeling that responding to devs questions and requests cannot be shrugged off with jolly trolling like it happens here and writing useful responses even for simple questions takes time. And that time adds up pretty quickly especially when subject is not exactly straightforward. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:16:00 -
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This CSM does seem to have a ridiculous sense of self-importance, some of the Cap Stable podcasts with incumbents were just hideous. If I hear anything along the lines of 'We're told we're not Junior Game Designers but then sometimes, really, we are' again I'll scream.
You hate to **** on them cause its clear they've made some useful contributions but there seems to have been a shift in the rhetoric away from them being a useful tool for developers to bounce ideas off to them being so so so so so so so so so so so so so so (...) crucial to the future of the game, the wellbeing of the company and humanity in general. Travelling at the speed of love. |
KaarBaak
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:18:00 -
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The CSM presentation has always been an ego-************ circle-jerk for the folks on stage and the sheep in the audience that put them there.
I learned after the first fanfest I attended that this is the best time for a beer/bathroom break. Nothing or benefit or interest comes from that presentation.
While I'm sure the CSM has benefit for the game, this is a pointless use of fanfest resources.
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Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:35:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Fanfest is a holiday. You've had about a thousand hours of otherwise unpaid work from me; what more do you think I owe you?
I should have used "us senator" instead of "unpayed pr person" in my previous post.
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:44:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:So, anyone else feeling like that CSM panel has just said
1. CSM thinks they are important 2. CSM has been told by CCP they are important 3. CSM is important 4. CSM does things that are important.
Seriously, I listened to the stream expecting some sort of intelligent conversation about in-depth details.. Why none of this cee cee pee?
-Buhhd No you pretty much summed it up Luckily, even if the whole thing is a huge practical joke that ccp pull for the sheer pleasure of spending money, all you're out is 5 minutes a year to click a few names on a webpage.
I often feel like my sense of humour is black and maybe even sick. But then after I read what Malcanis says I'm not so sure my sense of humour is that black. |
Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:So, anyone else feeling like that CSM panel has just said
1. CSM thinks they are important 2. CSM has been told by CCP they are important 3. CSM is important 4. CSM does things that are important.
Seriously, I listened to the stream expecting some sort of intelligent conversation about in-depth details.. Why none of this cee cee pee?
-Buhhd No you pretty much summed it up Luckily, even if the whole thing is a huge practical joke that ccp pull for the sheer pleasure of spending money, all you're out is 5 minutes a year to click a few names on a webpage.
Some of us actually spend a bit more time than that researching and getting to know exactly whose names we're clicking on (which is exactly why you've never received a vote from me); but I'm glad to see that you take your responsibilities so seriously.
Malcanis wrote:Fanfest is a holiday. You've had about a thousand hours of otherwise unpaid work from me; what more do you think I owe you?
By all means, enjoy the rest of your fanfest. But when you're participating in the CSM panel, you are once again acting as an elected representative, and need to be out of "vacation mode" and actually doing something worthwhile. Yes, the "job" is unpaid, but it's the job you volunteered for, campaigned for, and accepted. As such, we expect you to fulfill it to the very end; not slack off in your final duties. |
Vyl Vit
640
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:28:00 -
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OMG!! CSMs on "TV"??? WOW! Here I was pounding my toes with a ball peen hammer and I could have seen THAT?? I tell yah. Poor advertising has its costs. Imagine missing the CSMs on TV. *heavy sigh* I'm beside myself. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Lost Hamster
FREE GATES Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:38:00 -
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Why are you surprised? CSM panel is always the most boring hour in the fanfest. |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:15:00 -
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Waste of an hour? Hey. How else to start the waste of a YEAR? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:38:00 -
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Lost Hamster wrote:Why are you surprised? CSM panel is always the most boring hour in the fanfest.
Exactly why I'm posting! they go on about being important, and we have to sit and watch them chat complete bollocks on comms. shame, as this has the potential to be genuinely interesting! |
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:42:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Folk like to moan about the CSM, but if CCP did away with the CSM, I would suggest that there would be a lot of folk complaining that we no longer had any player representation.
Don't like 'em or think they are useless?
Don't vote.
considering literally every change is put up in a sticky on F&I, i'd argue there's no need for a group of 14 people to speak for us; we can do it ourselves now ccp have decided to sticky literally every upcoming change. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:16:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Folk like to moan about the CSM, but if CCP did away with the CSM, I would suggest that there would be a lot of folk complaining that we no longer had any player representation.
Don't like 'em or think they are useless?
Don't vote.
I don't vote. Spaceship politicians are still politicians, cannot trust the lot. |
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