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Falconetta
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Posted - 2003.09.22 13:33:00 -
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Just curious, since quite a few people in the galaxy have tried many of the other mmorpgs out there I'd like to hear your take on them, the pros and cons.
And please don't turn this into eve-flaming making silly comparisons. That's not what it's about and it'd be a shame if the thread gets taken away. Just trying to benefit from the undoubtedly large knowledgebase in the community. So have a glass of spiced wine, some long limbed roes, and tell me your story if you please.
/Falconetta
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.22 13:56:00 -
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just mmorpgs or ALL games?
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:01:00 -
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Das Schwarze Auge (Pen & Paper)
Cyberpunk (Pen & Paper)
Shadowrun (Pen & Paper)
Rolemaster (Pen & Paper)
AD&D (Pen & Paper)
Rifts (Pen & Paper)
Those were more MMORPG than the current online games are  .
I played DAoC, then EVE, now back to DAoC. At least it is stable and compared to EVE 100% bugfree and I can play whenever I want to. Furthermore I do not have to deal with idiotic GMs.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:07:00 -
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That O stands for Online...
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Falconetta
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Falconetta on 22/09/2003 14:16:33
Edited by: Falconetta on 22/09/2003 14:15:04
Edited by: Falconetta on 22/09/2003 14:09:34
Daesdemona, I was thinking of mmorpgs :).
Could be fun if you all could say what your main char is/was in those games too and what they do/did.
Anarchy Online, Yraxor, Soldier lvl 100 is my only other mmorpg experience. It was a lot of fun in a friendly guild called Omni-Tek Board of Directors (OTBoD).
mm...the good ol days of P&P rpg's Molly  Played quite a bit of the AD&D equivalent that we got over here. It doesn't have levels like AD&D, so attributes don't go up but I lost my precious sorceror (2 years of building up?) after getting blinded and losing both arms thanks to a demon that appeard at the most unexpected time . There's a nice crypt built on a hill overlooking the ocean for that one now
There's something special about rpg's with no ressurect spells or clone facilities!
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1of1
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:16:00 -
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I've played RPGs before, but EVE is my first MMORPG. I have to say, even with all the problems, I enjoy it.
It's a different gaming experience for me, so perhaps I'm a little more forgiving of the flaws as I'm still learning the ropes and have nothing to compare it against. I RP'ed for the first time a few weeks back and quite enjoyed it (despite the problems I encountered...)
I'm happy just to play this out and see where it goes. I suspect I'll be playing for a while.
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Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:20:00 -
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Everquest, Anarchy Online, DaoC, AC, Shadowbane.
None of them had space ships though, so I like Eve the best =)
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:20:00 -
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"That O stands for Online..."
So what?
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:23:00 -
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 Quote:
Das Schwarze Auge (Pen & Paper)
Cyberpunk (Pen & Paper)
Shadowrun (Pen & Paper)
Rolemaster (Pen & Paper)
AD&D (Pen & Paper)
Rifts (Pen & Paper)
Those were more MMORPG than the current online games are .
I played DAoC, then EVE, now back to DAoC. At least it is stable and compared to EVE 100% bugfree and I can play whenever I want to. Furthermore I do not have to deal with idiotic GMs.
just commenting that those, although classic RPGs were not MMORPGs... givign you a hard time if you may... I apologize :)
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 22/09/2003 14:26:06
(Ultima Online)
Cons:
At release, UO was completely unplayable with 5 minute lag 'bursts' during which time your avatar would be killed and pillaged. During those times not susceptible to lag 'bursts', finding a training dummy that was unoccupied by macro-maniacs was virtually impossible. The cries from the 'never played any game except for the single player Ultima series' players quickly flew past pain thresholds as they ran headfirst into the 'played MUDs since 199x where killing a person because they wore a blue tunic in your presence' miner gankers.
Pros:
Player generated content wise, I'm not aware of any game on the market that comes even close to competing. UO's craft and tradeskill system is the sole reason for its survival despite barely crossing the 3D barrier (I refuse to call top-down isometric graphics "3D", no matter how pretty people try to make it).
It's hard to repeat the unplayability of UO at release. But it's also hard to repeat the situation of UO at release: Truly Innovative. So Eve barely edges ahead in that category. The issues of "Good vs Evil" has yet to be resolved in Eve, so there's plenty of time for CCP to commit suicide or smarten up. Here's a hint for the developers though: Eve will never have the robust tradeskill system UO has and therefore cannot rely on its tradeskill system to save it.
Up next time: Anarchy Online, the game that killed the golden age for developers.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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LordRule
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:25:00 -
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ive played some Jumpgate, kind a like eve but think first-person when ur in your ship. Was fun and using a joystick owned.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:32:00 -
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was that any good?
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Gib Goblin
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:33:00 -
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Stuff I've played:
Chess (Club trophy winner age group @ 12-14)
Paranoia (RPG)
D&D (RPG)
Warhammer40,000
Warhammer40,000 Epic
StarFleetCommand (Board Game)
StarFleetCommand (Beta & Release 1 & Release 2)
Fleet Admiral in SFC Fleet ladder in StarLance.
Earth & Beyond
EVE (Beta - Retail)
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LordRule
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:38:00 -
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Jumpgate was fun in all, in a way i wich eve is first-person or at least switch to it so i can use joystick. I didnt get that much into it, but it nothing compared to eve.
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Fijou
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:56:00 -
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Bah, after typing up a very long post with my experiences in other mmorpg's after i hit the post button there was an error and my post didnt go through and as i hit the back button i wasnt able to recover my post, so i will just list what ive played, minus the descriptions...
anarchy online
lineage
runescape
ragnarok online
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Falconetta
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:58:00 -
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Hate it when the post vanish. Which one of those did you like the best?
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:02:00 -
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Well i tried everquest for a couple of days then realised i was sick of fantasy and bought Eve instead.
But i have also played D&D, Call of Cthulhu and all the Warhammer games. Call of Cthulhu was definitly the best pen and paper game but i cant roleplay any more because of work :-(.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:04:00 -
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O i also played a reallly cool online game called Diaspora-basically eve but in 2D. Anyone else ever play this?
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Khandaras
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:05:00 -
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Played Jumpgate for quite a while, liked the game, and have to say the*****pit-view combined with the joystick controls were cool.
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Fijou
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:08:00 -
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Well, of the 4 i mentioned, ragnarok online was hands down the best. The others I had mainly negative comments about
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:14:00 -
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Rolemaster
aaaahhhh rolemaster
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:17:00 -
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I played:
- UO
- Everquest
- Lineage
- Ragnarok
- DAOC
- Red moon (or sumthig like that.)
Anyway, enough.. :[
In 3 of them i lead a gang, clan, corp.. whatever.
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Fijou
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:39:00 -
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Well seeing as i have nothing better to do as i just failed an agent mission immediately after accepting it and have to wait 15 minutes for another one i will type some shortened descriptions of what ive played...
Anarchy Online
Was fun for a while, but was plagued with bugs, glitches and balance problems, all of which seemed to be getting worse every patch. My chosen proffession(nanotechnician) kept getting worse and worse with each of these patches making it harder and harder to play or even be wanted in hunting parties. What finally pushed me over the edge and caused me to quit was when i received a mission that would reward me with a very rare item worth millions at the time, upon reaching my objective i found it was behind a wall with no way of reaching it. Horrible, horrible dungeon design.
Lineage
Sounded like it had a great concept with huge pvp wars consisting of 100s of people at once trying to conquer and defend territory. I was looking forward to trying this out, but getting disconnected every 10 minutes(not an exaggeration) caused me to quit before being able to experience the games main selling point.
RuneScape
Im not one to usually care much about graphics, but GOD was this game ugly. Horrible lag at all times of the day, a very rude and immature community, and nothing to really keep you playing besides getting the next item caused me to stop playing.
Ragnarok Online
Played it during the final week of beta. Had a great time, the gameplay was fun(despite lag at peak play times), bugs and glitches were nowhere in sight, nice coloring and cute graphics. I would have payed to play this game if it werent for the fact that the international server(the one i played on) was about 6 months behind in content and updates compared to the korean server. There was also only ONE gm to manage the entire international server. These 2 facts caused me to think twice about subscribing, and im sure glad i didnt as it turns out their servers were hacked about a week after going paytoplay and peoples personal information(including credit card numbers) was compromised.
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Nepenthe
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Nepenthe on 22/09/2003 15:52:36
-UO (4-5 fking years and never again shall i touch that game) (if anyone cares i got 10-15 mils in uo gold and tons of stuff..)
-PA (2 years and same as above)
-Dominion (gah 1 round was 1 too many)
-DAOC (good potential..somehow i faded to eve)
-(tried anarchy online for a week or so)
-EvE (enjoy it a lot)
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great white
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: great white on 22/09/2003 15:48:07
asherons call darktide awesome game old hardware too much lag on the server.
shadowbane liked it but it was a little slow running and using stam stunk.
so far i like eve but it needs some spice added to the game. a first person perspective or a*****pit view would be a nice step.
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Korath
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Korath on 22/09/2003 15:50:12
Edited by: Korath on 22/09/2003 15:49:35
1994-1997 AD&D Pen & Paper
1998-Current: UO (pre-trammel gimp era) then EQ then Jumpgate then DAoC then EQ again, now Eve. 
Yeah I'm just a big ass nerd.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:08:00 -
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UO, AC, DAOC, Jumpgate then Eve.
6 years in UO and about 1-2 months in the others.
Eve...I love it. Been playing since Beta.
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McBlunt
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:30:00 -
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Soldier of fortune, played it for 2 years, great game
Runescape: Hated it, got addicted, played for 20 months, got combat 107 :\ when i look back i just dont understand how i could be dumb enough to play that game
Unreal tournament 2003: Awesome FPS , i still play it along with Eve
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Bane Sellante
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:53:00 -
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Various P&P games from Tunnels and Trolls onwards.
Diablo 2 - To many people cheating and to many knacked mice
Anarchy Online - Really enjoyed it was in a good guild just got bored. Might take another look now shadowlands is out though.
Eve - Still love it bugs an all.
Short list really
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:56:00 -
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Ok, I feel alone... so I'll include other games
UO
Played for 1 hour, sold it.
Anarchy Online
played beta for 1 hour, sold it.
Starcarft &exp
3 Years and change , still go back to it sometimes with nostalgia. That game was just sublime.
Diablo I & II
Good for the first 3 months, then destroyed by hacks
Warcraft 3
Kewl game, no time to get into it, finished, played beta online.
Half-Life, *****strike, Team Fortress
Like *****
Hyperiums
Text base multiplayer strategic game Online
weird game, also like *****
Planetarion
Played 2 days, got annoyed by all the crap.
Eve
Its ok. Innovative ideas.
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