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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1677
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:30:00 -
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Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?
Please make Legion a subscription-based MMO, so we don't run into this problem anymore.
I'm seriously never going to complain about the EVE forums again, after this weekend. Even at our absolute worst, we're nowhere near that bad.
I'm not even gonna get mad when blokes complain about the gifts, anymore.
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Doreen Kaundur
10
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:32:00 -
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I ususally leave games when they turn F2P.
I hate the cash shops constantly in my face.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3919
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:33:00 -
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Agreed.
At least if its on PC then a lot more people will give it a try.
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Dave Stark
5280
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:34:00 -
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making legion subscription based is the fastest way to get me not to try it. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1213
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:34:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?
Please make Legion a subscription-based MMO, so we don't run into this problem anymore.
I'm seriously never going to complain about the EVE forums again, after this weekend. Even at our absolute worst, we're nowhere near that bad.
I'm not even gonna get mad when blokes complain about the gifts, anymore.
the issue with the dust bunnies is age, not bank related. moving to pc will help with this.
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Jur Tissant
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:38:00 -
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EVE is subscription based and you still get plenty of dribble, flaming, and trolling on these forums.
I'm most worried about the microtransactions that are pretty much always a part F2P games. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1679
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:40:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?
Please make Legion a subscription-based MMO, so we don't run into this problem anymore.
I'm seriously never going to complain about the EVE forums again, after this weekend. Even at our absolute worst, we're nowhere near that bad.
I'm not even gonna get mad when blokes complain about the gifts, anymore. the issue with the dust bunnies is age, not bank related. moving to pc will help with this.
I don't even think it's just age. Some of those guys might have actually been as old as they claimed to be.
Obviously not the ones that were saying "PC gamers are all gay/virgins/have down's syndrome/etc"... those are obvious teenagers.
I really think it's just the accessibility of the F2P environment.
The quote "that's how we get ants" comes to mind.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3919
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:40:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:making legion subscription based is the fastest way to get me not to try it.
I would like to think those of us with EvE accounts would get a by-ball on paying.
Also, I can say Id rather not see any firearms, gear or armour that are only available with cash, aurum or plex.
That would grind my gears.
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1679
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:42:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:EVE is subscription based and you still get plenty of dribble, flaming, and trolling on these forums.
I'm most worried about the microtransactions that are pretty much always a part F2P games.
Mate, no..... not like that we don't. It was horrible.
I play DUST, and care about the community, so I was there basically as an extra fire extinguisher.
The rage was just beyond the pale. We have NEVER been that bad. Not even in the infamous Mintchip welcome thread.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:42:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:making legion subscription based is the fastest way to get me not to try it. I would like to think those of us with EvE accounts would get a by-ball on paying. Also, I can say Id rather not see any firearms, gear or armour that are only available with cash, aurum or plex. That would grind my gears.
if my subscription for eve also let me play dustlegion, i'd be fine with that. |
Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
312
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:44:00 -
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Doreen Kaundur wrote:I ususally leave games when they turn F2P.
I hate the cash shops constantly in my face.
You played The Old Republic and I claim my five pounds.
^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1679
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:44:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:making legion subscription based is the fastest way to get me not to try it. I would like to think those of us with EvE accounts would get a by-ball on paying. Also, I can say Id rather not see any firearms, gear or armour that are only available with cash, aurum or plex. That would grind my gears.
They've actually done a pretty good job of balancing that.
Yes, you can access "proto" quality suits and weapons, earlier through AUR transactions.... but they take up almost twice the PG/CPU, so you nerf the crap out of yourself when you fit one. It completely circumvents "pay-to-win".... in an absolutely brilliant way, might I add.
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Doreen Kaundur
11
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:49:00 -
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Victor Dathar wrote:Doreen Kaundur wrote:I ususally leave games when they turn F2P.
I hate the cash shops constantly in my face. You played The Old Republic and I claim my five pounds.
I think it would be more accurate to say I "tried" the old republic.
Didnt last long.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5767
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:52:00 -
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I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1214
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:53:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1682
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:56:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff.
If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable.
I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here?
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5768
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:58:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff. If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable. I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here?
So long as it isn't as brutally pay to win as DUST is, I don't particularly mind.
What did you have in mind as a subscription price, by the way? Because no first person shooter in existence is worth $15 a month.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Aspalis
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
676
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:01:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?
Please make Legion a subscription-based MMO, so we don't run into this problem anymore.
I think the better approach would be to have Legion as a F2P game with the option of a subscription that offers you enough incentives for you to cough up the monthly fee. Pretty much what Planetside 2 is doing now.
Edit: Alternatively allow us to pay for it monthly with PLEX. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1215
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:02:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff. If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable. I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here?
er, plex....
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1682
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:03:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff. If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable. I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here? So long as it isn't as brutally pay to win as DUST is, I don't particularly mind. What did you have in mind as a subscription price, by the way? Because no first person shooter in existence is worth $15 a month.
I was thinking more like $5 a month....
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1684
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:04:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff. If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable. I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here? er, plex....
Oh, pish-posh.... that game time that can be sold on the ingame market. Doesn't even count.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Doreen Kaundur
13
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:06:00 -
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Speaking of quick observations, anyone here ever notice how hookers dont like to cuddle?
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3929
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:06:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:making legion subscription based is the fastest way to get me not to try it. I would like to think those of us with EvE accounts would get a by-ball on paying. Also, I can say Id rather not see any firearms, gear or armour that are only available with cash, aurum or plex. That would grind my gears. They've actually done a pretty good job of balancing that. Yes, you can access "proto" quality suits and weapons, earlier through AUR transactions.... but they take up almost twice the PG/CPU, so you nerf the crap out of yourself when you fit one. It completely circumvents "pay-to-win".... in an absolutely brilliant way, might I add.
I approve of that product or cervix
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1684
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:06:00 -
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Aspalis wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?
Please make Legion a subscription-based MMO, so we don't run into this problem anymore.
I think the better approach would be to have Legion as a F2P game with the option of a subscription that offers you enough incentives for you to cough up the monthly fee. Pretty much what Planetside 2 is doing now. Edit: Alternatively allow us to pay for it monthly with PLEX.
Oh, gods.... that's the old "F2P" model. Penny Arcade roasted that practice with a rather scathing comic about the differences between paid subscriber and free player.... not many people do it anymore, after that.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1684
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:08:00 -
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Doreen Kaundur wrote:Speaking of quick observations, anyone here ever notice how hookers dont like to cuddle?
Oh, they don't mind it at all.... it just costs extra. Same goes for kissing.
Did you forget what city I live in?
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Aspalis
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
676
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:08:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff. If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable. I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here? er, plex.... Oh, pish-posh.... that game time that can be sold on the ingame market. Doesn't even count.
Ship skins? And I don't see any reasons why CCP would not do the same for Valkyrie or Legion. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3929
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:08:00 -
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Doreen Kaundur wrote:Speaking of quick observations, anyone here ever notice how hookers dont like to cuddle?
They do when they are unconcious and/or immobilised
or "webbed" and "neuted"
as I like to call it
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
1716
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:09:00 -
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Which city is that? So I would know which city I should avoid, you know...
I am not my skills but...
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1218
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:10:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Doreen Kaundur wrote:Speaking of quick observations, anyone here ever notice how hookers dont like to cuddle? They do when they are unconcious and/or immobilised or "webbed" and "neuted" as I like to call it
this got dark quicker than usual
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1684
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:12:00 -
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Aspalis wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.
A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff. If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable. I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here? er, plex.... Oh, pish-posh.... that game time that can be sold on the ingame market. Doesn't even count. Ship skins? And I don't see any reasons why CCP would not do the same for Valkyrie or Legion.
I really think ship skins should move completely out of the AUR market and go straight up microtransaction. I will pay 25 cents per Comet to have my Woop-Woop police lights.... I'd also pay 75 cents per Ferox to have my damn Guristas or Mordu's paintjob if/when CCP gets tired of hearing me beg for it and gives it to us.
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