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SevenDwarfs
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Posted - 2006.05.24 02:52:00 -
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EVE has giving us another update. And with this update another missile nerf. With every update EVE gives more and more power to Projectile and Hybrids and even the Energy weapons, yet they always find a way to lower the Hit Points to some kind of missile. From slowing them down to lowering the HP, EVE will find a way to reject the use of any and all missiles. What give? Will EVE ever send missiles a good patch to help revive them and not destroy them.
Yes Missiles are not the weapons of choice when fighting another character. But back when EVE first started they were very nice both in PVP and in missions. Now people relay on them for missions. Now EVE wants to slow that down, as they introduce Levle 5 Agents. Will EVE ever see how they are hurting people and hurting the chance of a good fight, or will they keep nerfing the Missiles.
Lets all help the Missile Nerf and speak out against it..
~SevenDwarfs~
~TOOC~
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:02:00 -
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Yeah, missiles are so underpowered, it is really an outrage.
Oh well, switch to one of the hideously overpowered turret weapon systems, it is your only hope.
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DragonSnake
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: DragonSnake on 24/05/2006 03:25:00
well i guess you can compare it to realy life.. bulits and lighting bolts and field altilery all do more than any missiles out there.. and note the sarcasme
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ELECTR0FREAK
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:24:00 -
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 Originally by: DragonSnake
well i guess you can compare it to realy life.. bulits and lighting bolts and field altilery all do more than any missiles out there
Ever been within a city block or two of an ICBM when it landed? Of course not, you'd be dead!
-Electrofreak
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: DragonSnake
Edited by: DragonSnake on 24/05/2006 03:25:00
well i guess you can compare it to realy life.. bulits and lighting bolts and field altilery all do more than any missiles out there.. and note the sarcasme
Real life is not game.
Game is not real life.
Eve is a game.
Get it?
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: DragonSnake
Edited by: DragonSnake on 24/05/2006 03:25:00
well i guess you can compare it to realy life.. bulits and lighting bolts and field altilery all do more than any missiles out there.. and note the sarcasme
Real life is not game.
Game is not real life.
Eve is a game.
Get it?
Eve isn't real life? 
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:34:00 -
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First off, if you don't use precision cruise, how does this effect you?
Also, if you don't think that the Precision cruises were hugely imbalanced, then you're blind. 
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hey You
Eve isn't real life?
Actually I think my comment might have been out of order, because he said "note the sarcasm"... though I'm not sure that makes it make any sense at all then... 
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Aeaea
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:37:00 -
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Because pwning a frigate with battleship sized launchers isn't overpowered at all..
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Phaese
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:37:00 -
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Stop whining about the missile nerfs, it'll be fixed soon enough.
Kali is doing away with weapons as we know them; it's going to have rocket-propelled, laser-guided, plutonium-based nuclear warheads. That are launched from drones.
/me trains Projectisslaser Hybridrone to level V.
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:40:00 -
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Presicion needed a nerf and they got it.
Blasters were too high on CPU and Cap consuming.
Proj ... well, they had all the named guns of small and medium size requiring no cap, while the t1 and t2 needed cap to fire.
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DragonSnake
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:42:00 -
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ok but if a rail or a blaster/beam can cuz over a thousand hp but yet a precetion can only stike for 5-6 hundred why the nerf??
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Phaese
Stop whining about the missile nerfs, it'll be fixed soon enough.
Uhm... Yes. It just got fixed. In this patch.
Quote:
Kali is doing away with weapons as we know them;
I DO hope that is a joke.
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: DragonSnake
ok but if a rail or a blaster/beam can cuz over a thousand hp but yet a precetion can only stike for 5-6 hundred why the nerf??
Consider the setups required to actually hit a frigate, and the situations required for it to do so.
A gun can do so:
- if the frigate's transversal is low enough
- if gun is far enough away and the setup has enough tracking boosts, etc. (requiring setups ENTIRELY devoted to such actions, which eliminates a tank and any hope of offense at any short range)
- and it still has a very good chance of missing...
A precision missile previous to this patch could do so:
- if the frigate/inty was in range
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DragonSnake
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:46:00 -
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no they never fixed them they hurt them.. fixing them be leaving them alon or giving them the hp back..
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: DragonSnake
no they never fixed them they hurt them.. fixing them be leaving them alon or giving them the hp back..
Uh, they were pretty heavily overpowered.
Therefore, nerfing them fixed them (or brought them closer to being 'in balance', if not all of the way there, hopefully they did not over-nerf them).
I don't get what you are trying to say, honestly.
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: DragonSnake
ok but if a rail or a blaster/beam can cuz over a thousand hp but yet a precetion can only stike for 5-6 hundred why the nerf??
I hate to be the E-Spelling Police, but....
Seriously though, I HIGHLY doubt you will EVER get a 1k shot to an inty. ESPECIALLY from an Blaster. To get a hit PERIOD, they need to be, like, 100km+ away, and the Inty needs to be dumb enough to not warp as it takes like, atleast 2-3 volleys for it to die normally. Precisions could hit, at ANY range. At 5km, or 150km. So overpowered. I'd be willing to bet that they did more damage then the sniper BSes you will see do.
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SevenDwarfs
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:58:00 -
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Ok let me clear something up
a) the percetion missiles i use droped from hitting at 530 hp to 447.
b) the statements made some are true some are not.. but in all reality people are not fitting frigs all the time..
c) you can snipe with almost all the other weapons try to do it with a cruise missile.. you get the time to warp out warp back in and fire off another set of rounds.. so yes unless ur fitting frigs all the time then yes i guess the nerf helped u.. but when ur fitting everything then the nerf hurt like hell..
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Hey You on 24/05/2006 04:00:43
Originally by: SevenDwarfs
Ok let me clear something up
a) the percetion missiles i use droped from hitting at 530 hp to 447.
b) the statements made some are true some are not.. but in all reality people are not fitting frigs all the time..
c) you can snipe with almost all the other weapons try to do it with a cruise missile.. you get the time to warp out warp back in and fire off another set of rounds.. so yes unless ur fitting frigs all the time then yes i guess the nerf helped u.. but when ur fitting everything then the nerf hurt like hell..
You want instant-damage missiles? 
Oh, use the other Cruise Missiles for damage...Or maybe...Maybe torps. 
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SevenDwarfs
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:02:00 -
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im not asking instant damage. i saying if they keep nerf the missile line and keep adding to turret weapons. lil unfair
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K1K1R1K1
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Real life is not game.
Game is not real life.
Eve is a game.
Get it?
QFTW now and forever!
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: SevenDwarfs
im not asking instant damage. i saying if they keep nerf the missile line and keep adding to turret weapons. lil unfair
Maybe...Maybe because the missiles were ownage, and Turrets awful?
I know a pilot, who has what was it, 600k SP in missiles, and 12m in Gunnery, and he flies a Raven better then gunboats. Unfair, mebbe?
You can't complain about Missiles sucking at sniping, because that's a part of a missile user. Try Javelin Torps for sniping. Good damage, and they cover range fast.
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: SevenDwarfs
im not asking instant damage. i saying if they keep nerf the missile line and keep adding to turret weapons. lil unfair
They added missiles in RMR that were massively overpowered. And hey, your cargo hold still has space for normal missiles if you need to do damage. How dope is that?
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Hydrian Alante
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: Hydrian Alante on 24/05/2006 04:12:36
Originally by: SevenDwarfs
EVE has giving us another update. And with this update another missile nerf. With every update EVE gives more and more power to Projectile and Hybrids and even the Energy weapons, yet they always find a way to lower the Hit Points to some kind of missile. From slowing them down to lowering the HP, EVE will find a way to reject the use of any and all missiles. What give? Will EVE ever send missiles a good patch to help revive them and not destroy them.
Yes Missiles are not the weapons of choice when fighting another character. But back when EVE first started they were very nice both in PVP and in missions. Now people relay on them for missions. Now EVE wants to slow that down, as they introduce Levle 5 Agents. Will EVE ever see how they are hurting people and hurting the chance of a good fight, or will they keep nerfing the Missiles.
Lets all help the Missile Nerf and speak out against it..
~SevenDwarfs~
~TOOC~
Yeah train for Turrets!
Trust me they are uber in every way!!!!111oneeleven
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Sever Aldaria
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
Originally by: DragonSnake
well i guess you can compare it to realy life.. bulits and lighting bolts and field altilery all do more than any missiles out there
Ever been within a city block or two of an ICBM when it landed? Of course not, you'd be dead!
Yes! Don't boost missiles, just add ballistic missiles!
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2006.05.24 05:50:00 -
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Missiles have had good patches for sure, at launch it cost something like 150,000 isk to manufacture 10 light missiles and about 300,000 isk per torpedo (not sure the torps weren't some 5m3 ? each as well).
While I'm sure they keep PvE at the back of there mind, weapons in eve have to be primarily balanced for PvP otherwise the core of the game falls apart.
Precision cruise missiles were horrendously overpowered in PvP, offering the ability to practically insta-pop frigates while still being just as good versus other battleships.
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Tarphon
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Posted - 2006.05.24 06:02:00 -
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Did they nerf Torps too.... I mean I was doing some ratting on Guristas using tech 2 "anti-ship" kinetic torps. They were doing only like 207 damage. I got a mate to let me test on him with NO hardners or amps and it only did 220. WTF
I did more damage with the standard Torps and even heavy missiles before this "patch"
Why dont they just remove the fracking Caldari from the game, this is getting real stupid.
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tarphon
Why dont they just remove the fracking Caldari from the game, this is getting real stupid.
I agree. Because Caldari ships suck. They are completely useless. They can't kill anything in PVE, they can't kill anything in PVP. The Raven gets owned by a freaking Omen... What's the point?
*throws up hands*
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Vardemis
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Posted - 2006.05.24 06:42:00 -
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I think Tux is just warming up for the real hit with the nerfbat regarding missiles. It is going into the right directions, but it is still far from balance. |
Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:16:00 -
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Always sad and hilarious at the same time when people complain when their precious "I-WIN" buttons, also known as missiles, are nerfed to be a bit more balanced compared to other weapons, as if that'd reduce them to throwing sticks or something. Sheesh.
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