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myFORUMalt alts Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:43:00 - [1] - Quote So, I was really excited about the new winter release, particularly for the naga, which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship. And then CCP through its infinite wisdom has killed my happiness and taken away the launcher slots from the naga. So i ask, wheres the missile love. What new battlecruiser can use missiles. The other ships can use hybrids, projectile, and lasers, but no missiles. stupid Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1496	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:49:00 - [2] - Quote myFORUMalt alts wrote: which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship. No. No it was not. Might I suggest a Raven? It will do that job a whole lot better than the Naga ever would. Or a Tengu? Also, the Caldari have enough missile ships as it is GÇö they can use a new one that makes use of their secondary weapon system. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Pattern Clarc Aperture Harmonics 302	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:51:00 - [3] - Quote I'm happy caldari actually have a ship demonstrating what Hybrids could be. I hope they implement similar changes to the other rail boats tbh, they really need the damage... Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction
Kent Reeves 15	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:51:00 - [4] - Quote Train hybrids. No, seriously.
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 85	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:52:00 - [5] - Quote Even if they kept the missile hardpoints you would have lost it to NPCs, none of the t3 BCs are for PvE, unless maybe you ultra drake tank it and then it wouldnt do much damage Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt!
myFORUMalt alts Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:52:00 - [6] - Quote Tippia wrote: myFORUMalt alts wrote: which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship. No. No it was not. Might I suggest a Raven? It will do that job a whole lot better than the Naga ever would. Or a Tengu? Also, the Caldari have enough missile ships as it is GÇö they can use a new one that makes use of their secondary weapon system. I fly a tengu now, but its a support vessel for the thanny. I wanted that 1000DPS to slice through rogue drone battleships more effectively. Especially since it could be 1000 dps of any damage type. So i could use the appropriate EM torps instead of my kinetic heavy missiles. stoopid Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
myFORUMalt alts Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:53:00 - [7] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: Even if they kept the missile hardpoints you would have lost it to NPCs, none of the t3 BCs are for PvE, unless maybe you ultra drake tank it and then it wouldnt do much damage capital shield emission from thanny Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
myFORUMalt alts Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:54:00 - [8] - Quote Kent Reeves wrote: Train hybrids. No, seriously. Why train hybrids when i could train projectile. Hybrids suck until proven otherwise Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Pattern Clarc Aperture Harmonics 302	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:54:00 - [9] - Quote Also, IBTL. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction
Nephilius Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co. 35	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:56:00 - [10] - Quote If life gives you turd buckets, load them in your blasters and make a splash. If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1496	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:56:00 - [11] - Quote myFORUMalt alts wrote: I fly a tengu now, but its a support vessel for the thanny. GÇªand a Tengu or Raven will serve that purpose better than the torp Naga would. In fact, the rail Naga will serve that purpose better than the torp Naga would (but like all the tier-3s, it's far too squishy and too reliant on support ships to make a good PvE boat). GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Shivus Tao Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 47	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:05:00 - [12] - Quote What's this? You're mad they changed the naga so it can no longer fill a role it wasn't supposed to? Shocking. On the flip side, the talos is going to be the new ratter of choice against serpentis. Naga should be able to do exceptionally well against Guristas between its range, damage type, and low sig radius.
Ris Dnalor Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan 16	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:05:00 - [13] - Quote I'd greatly prefer a torp naga... if i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1497	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:08:00 - [14] - Quote Ris Dnalor wrote: Iif i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship? Because you're Caldari / Shield-specced, not Gallente / Armour-specced. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Jenny Cameron Ordo Eventus Inception Alliance 22	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:11:00 - [15] - Quote Ris Dnalor wrote: I'd greatly prefer a torp naga... if i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship? Very true, after all we didn't all train large hybrids. Too bad we get 2 hybrid boats and no missile ships now, it's disappointing. A lot of people can't really use any of the new tier 3 BCs now.
Ris Dnalor Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan 16	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:20:00 - [16] - Quote Tippia wrote: Ris Dnalor wrote: Iif i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship? Because you're Caldari / Shield-specced, not Gallente / Armour-specced. fair point, though I still don't understand the reasoning. Perhaps there's a very good reason that I simply don't see.
IIIAsharakIII GR3Y N0MADS 2	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:23:00 - [17] - Quote Since CCP added the support skills to the drone/missile category, the weapon systems have really changed. I'd say its become just as complex as training gunnery. That being said, there's nothing wrong with asking for a missile boat. I can understand why OP is upset and dissapointed. BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department. Why not just scrap this crap and move on?
Ris Dnalor Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan 16	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:28:00 - [18] - Quote IIIAsharakIII wrote: Since CCP added the support skills to the drone/missile category, the weapon systems have really changed. I'd say its become just as complex as training gunnery. That being said, there's nothing wrong with asking for a missile boat. I can understand why OP is upset and dissapointed. BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department. Why not just scrap this crap and move on? big damage, weak defense is the premise. Why? Suicide pvp boost. En masse, it could be a cheaper way to bring loads of dps... I can see remote-reppers needing an increased dosage of their anti-anxiety meds though. Works well for minmatar 1400's and perhaps amarr tachyons for sniping. Hybrids alpha will be less, putting caldari / gallente less into the suicide sniper role.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 390	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:44:00 - [19] - Quote Jenny Cameron wrote: Ris Dnalor wrote: I'd greatly prefer a torp naga... if i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship? Very true, after all we didn't all train large hybrids. Too bad we get 2 hybrid boats and no missile ships now, it's disappointing. A lot of people can't really use any of the new tier 3 BCs now. they are PvP ships at their core. How many PvPers do you know with only missiles trained??
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate 87	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:29:00 - [20] - Quote myFORUMalt alts wrote: ... taken away the launcher slots ... Train guns, free your self from the Caldari missle spam
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 145	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:44:00 - [21] - Quote myFORUMalt alts wrote: So, I was really excited about the new winter release, particularly for the naga, which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship. And then CCP through its infinite wisdom has killed my happiness and taken away the launcher slots from the naga. So i ask, wheres the missile love. What new battlecruiser can use missiles. The other ships can use hybrids, projectile, and lasers, but no missiles. stupid OP the title of your thread made me bust out laughing. But you are wrong. Nothing is a bigger turd bucket than anything Gallente.
David Grogan The Motley Crew Reborn 218	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:51:00 - [22] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: Even if they kept the missile hardpoints you would have lost it to NPCs, none of the t3 BCs are for PvE, unless maybe you ultra drake tank it and then it wouldnt do much damage the naga even with large nuetron blasters does quiet well vs 0.0 blood raider belt rats and it can align and warp out much quicker than any bs can Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Denidil The Graduates Morsus Mihi 163	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:52:00 - [23] - Quote IIIAsharakIII wrote: BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department. the bonuses on a ship generally tell you their purpose. i popped a catalyst from 200km on test server, learn to fit. MM Bombers, Best Bombers
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 146	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:12:00 - [24] - Quote Denidil wrote: IIIAsharakIII wrote: BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department. the bonuses on a ship generally tell you their purpose. i popped a catalyst from 200km on test server, learn to fit. :-O
Haulin Aussie Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:15:00 - [25] - Quote Denidil wrote: IIIAsharakIII wrote: BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department. the bonuses on a ship generally tell you their purpose. i popped a catalyst from 200km on test server, learn to fit. You popped a ship with 1000 hitpoints total, omg must be win
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 391	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:18:00 - [26] - Quote Denidil wrote: IIIAsharakIII wrote: BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department. the bonuses on a ship generally tell you their purpose. i popped a catalyst from 200km on test server, learn to fit. im more impressed that he sat there and let you do that. sounds like a good sport, or someone AFK.
Russell Casey One Ton Reverberation Project 86	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:31:00 - [27] - Quote David Grogan wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Even if they kept the missile hardpoints you would have lost it to NPCs, none of the t3 BCs are for PvE, unless maybe you ultra drake tank it and then it wouldnt do much damage the naga even with large nuetron blasters does quiet well vs 0.0 blood raider belt rats and it can align and warp out much quicker than any bs can Nullbears rejoice!
myFORUMalt alts Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 8	Posted - 2011.11.16 11:12:00 - [28] - Quote Yeah, I fight rogue drones, and the original attraction was to be able to put 1000 dps on a slow moving rogue drone battleship while the carrier cleans up frigs and also kills more battleships. I saw this as a huge potential gain in isk/hr and now its crap. I just spend like 4 months getting perfect missile skills, everything is trained to 5 thats a support skill, and i got torp spec to 4 so this was gunna be awesome for me, and now ccp poops all over my dreams. I guess the root of it is, they introduced 4 new ships and not one caters to missiles. I dont understand why they would release a new series of ships and not include a major missile group. BTW, extreme dps is very valuable as a pve'er as well. Killing the battleships or the complex bosses is a valuable tool to have. now its 91 days to a golem, or 52 to a perfect CNR stupid Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Eyup Mi'duck Republic University Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2011.11.16 11:20:00 - [29] - Quote myFORUMalt alts wrote: Tippia wrote: myFORUMalt alts wrote: which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship. No. No it was not. Might I suggest a Raven? It will do that job a whole lot better than the Naga ever would. Or a Tengu? Also, the Caldari have enough missile ships as it is GÇö they can use a new one that makes use of their secondary weapon system. I fly a tengu now, but its a support vessel for the thanny. I wanted that 1000DPS to slice through rogue drone battleships more effectively. Especially since it could be 1000 dps of any damage type. So i could use the appropriate EM torps instead of my kinetic heavy missiles. stoopid I want an ubership that looks drop dead gortgeous and does gazillions of DPS and can tank anything and can be trained in 1 hour. It just aint gonna happen, stoopid. I am me.-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á I am not you.-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áI am happy with this situation.
Eyup Mi'duck Republic University Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2011.11.16 11:21:00 - [30] - Quote myFORUMalt alts wrote: Tippia wrote: myFORUMalt alts wrote: which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship. No. No it was not. Might I suggest a Raven? It will do that job a whole lot better than the Naga ever would. Or a Tengu? Also, the Caldari have enough missile ships as it is GÇö they can use a new one that makes use of their secondary weapon system. I fly a tengu now, but its a support vessel for the thanny. I wanted that 1000DPS to slice through rogue drone battleships more effectively. Especially since it could be 1000 dps of any damage type. So i could use the appropriate EM torps instead of my kinetic heavy missiles. stoopid I want.... Oh never mind stoopid. I am me.-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á I am not you.-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áI am happy with this situation.

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