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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
378
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:57:00 -
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Whoa! It's this thread topic again. I can't believe its already been a whole day since the last time it was brought up. 
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |
Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
378
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:00:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:* Creates macro to periodically warp between bookmarks after the anticloak patch goes into effect.
This will allow me to be at work and still be trolling you at the same time \0/
*at the same time, also creates contract and hands all his stuff over to belt scout before getting banned for using a macro.
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |
Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
711
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:01:00 -
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the fix is to shut the **** up and stop crying about a non-existant problem
'ooooh noooo someone is doing nothing in my system'
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
960
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:05:00 -
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Major Lunartik wrote:CCP need to put a timer on cloaky campers, and once timer runs out, some sort of sovereignty device can decloak and even web and scram them so sov renters/owners can pop their unsporting ass.
I thought of this as we have a cloaky in our system, and knowing how CCP pride themselves on how Eve has no real game rules, and 'Hot-droppers' will suffer if any other method was implemented, so a timer on some sort of modual/sov-modual with a set timer of say, 3hrs?, (allows hot-drops, makes it interesting), and after the timer is triggered, the offender cant log off let alone do anything else, so SOV owners/renters can blow up offender and pod for good measure.
Take this a step further and put a modual on gates so once a camper has been 'busted' the gate wont allow them in or at least penalize the known camper by killing the cloaking device!.
Currently there seems to be no cure for the cloaky campers, and pilots go play other games while being camped, CCP this does mean your subscribers may find a different game to enjoy and discontinue with Eveonline.
Ditch the rules, create counter measures.
o7
Make an upfront agreement with your neighbour to use their anoms (be polite don't move a carrier into someone elses system to rat with) when you have a camper and that will either reveal the camper to actually be afk, or let you trap it coming through the gate if its not.
Even if you don't kill it, forcing it to gate, forces it to reveal its hull type.
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Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1769
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:07:00 -
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Major Lunartik wrote:NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'. 
Plenty of counter measures... they just require effort... and a bit of imagination. Welcome to EVE.
"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:15:00 -
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I have to say i do find that having the ability to stay cloaked indefinitely while you go play on another char just to be annoying is well lame, saying that it is a valid play style if somewhat boring.
To stay in a system in space for however long you want and no one will ever find you seems to me be a problem, you call people nullbears for wanting combat which seems a bit odd, afk cloakys do everything they can to avoid combat, its there job, sit there afk and try to look big and bad.
Should there be a way to stop this, well personally yes i think there should. i had thought of maybe a mod that would ping the area and highlight the spot there in while not actually reviling there exact location, but after a while i realized this wouldn't work as if there are in a deep safe how do you warp to them.
So my thoughts come to this, your probes have a limited life span out side, maybe your cloak should take heat damage over a period of time, make it small so that the heat damage taken by the cloak for say a normal t1 would give it a hour of permanent running. T2 and faction could last longer ofc. so if you afk for to long your cloak will break and you will become visible to scans.
the numbers ofc can all be changed. but i do believe a solution to this craze that's afk cloaking needs to be addressed, sry to all those guys that constantly sit in our systems for hours on end doing nothing but hiding but hey we do want a chance at killing you :)
and no this isn't a alt. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13262
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:17:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Major Lunartik wrote:NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'. Plenty of counter measures... they just require effort... and a bit of imagination. Welcome to EVE.
Ah.. but therein lies the problem.... ::effort:: .
Imagination isn't the issue.. AFK Camping only works due to overactive imaginations.
Do not try to nerf the camper, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: There is no threat ; and you will see that it is not the reds that keep you docked.. but only yourself.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
960
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:19:00 -
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Decaneos wrote:I have to say i do find that having the ability to stay cloaked indefinitely while you go play on another char just to be annoying is well lame, saying that it is a valid play style if somewhat boring.
ahhh local is extremely powerful, particularly in null and cloaked campers are a counter to that.
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Ahost Gceo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:19:00 -
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Major Lunartik wrote:NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'.
Because what does someone who is cloaked do to you? Nothing. You can go on with your piddly existance as a renter.
Until he decloaks and points you for being complacent of course. But then if you weren't a lazy and vulnerable pilot, you would have a trap set.
Sounds like you just need to bend the way you play the game instead of bending the game to suit you and friggin' deal with it.
??? |
Luna Prey
Moon-Ninja
3
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:30:00 -
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Major Lunartik wrote:CCP need to put a timer on cloaky campers, and once timer runs out, some sort of sovereignty device can decloak and even web and scram them so sov renters/owners can pop their unsporting ass.
I thought of this as we have a cloaky in our system, and knowing how CCP pride themselves on how Eve has no real game rules, and 'Hot-droppers' will suffer if any other method was implemented, so a timer on some sort of modual/sov-modual with a set timer of say, 3hrs?, (allows hot-drops, makes it interesting), and after the timer is triggered, the offender cant log off let alone do anything else, so SOV owners/renters can blow up offender and pod for good measure.
Take this a step further and put a modual on gates so once a camper has been 'busted' the gate wont allow them in or at least penalize the known camper by killing the cloaking device!.
Currently there seems to be no cure for the cloaky campers, and pilots go play other games while being camped, CCP this does mean your subscribers may find a different game to enjoy and discontinue with Eveonline.
Ditch the rules, create counter measures.
o7
Hi, I'm a website programmer, and owner of the website http://sociopath-community.com. I spend a lot of time working at my computern+îand I don't really enjoy the elitist leadership in most corporations. I, instead, choose to spec toward curse and pilgrim, and harass large corporations with my cloaky.
This is the only way I have of getting back at the big corperations and making them suffer. Please dont take it from me! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1460
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:34:00 -
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Major Lunartik wrote:NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'.
A counter measure to what?
If something can't hurt you, it doesn't need a counter.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Major Lunartik
30plus
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:49:00 -
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Luna Prey wrote:Major Lunartik wrote:CCP need to put a timer on cloaky campers, and once timer runs out, some sort of sovereignty device can decloak and even web and scram them so sov renters/owners can pop their unsporting ass.
I thought of this as we have a cloaky in our system, and knowing how CCP pride themselves on how Eve has no real game rules, and 'Hot-droppers' will suffer if any other method was implemented, so a timer on some sort of modual/sov-modual with a set timer of say, 3hrs?, (allows hot-drops, makes it interesting), and after the timer is triggered, the offender cant log off let alone do anything else, so SOV owners/renters can blow up offender and pod for good measure.
Take this a step further and put a modual on gates so once a camper has been 'busted' the gate wont allow them in or at least penalize the known camper by killing the cloaking device!.
Currently there seems to be no cure for the cloaky campers, and pilots go play other games while being camped, CCP this does mean your subscribers may find a different game to enjoy and discontinue with Eveonline.
Ditch the rules, create counter measures.
o7 Hi, I'm a website programmer, and owner of the website http://sociopath-community.com. I spend a lot of time working at my computern+îand I don't really enjoy the elitist leadership in most corporations. I, instead, choose to spec toward curse and pilgrim, and harass large corporations with my cloaky. This is the only way I have of getting back at the big corperations and making them suffer. Please dont take it from me!
Not 'taking' anything away, merely suggesting to add to the game!
Bro, remember the time we.... no wait, I started to say something.....it will come to meh, -áI need a light. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5435
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:57:00 -
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Major Lunartik wrote:
Not 'taking' anything away, merely suggesting to add to the game!
What did your landlord say when you complained to them about this?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations
Surely You're Joking
67
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:01:00 -
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tldr: I paid for this space, it should be totally safe like highsec. |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
Easily Excited
941
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:09:00 -
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"CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Tar'z
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:42:00 -
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It's a stupid idea. The responses in the thread are even worse. Pretty much sums up why very few people come on here to discuss their ideas.
EVE-O, our favorite cesspool. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13265
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:58:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Major Lunartik wrote:NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'. A counter measure to what? If something can't hurt you, it doesn't need a counter.
How does one counter his own imagination?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu
Test Alliance Please Ignore
642
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:24:00 -
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Something really rubs me the wrong way that now 'sov renters' is a commonly used term and we don't **** on renters speaking on the forums without the permission of their overlords like we used too.
Honor is a fools prize.
Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main!
~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:34:00 -
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Making threads on the forums about getting cloaky camped is a great way ensure it continues.
If you're actually getting dropped on by expensive ****, though, be sure to contact someone about counter-drops. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1013
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:36:00 -
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Major Lunartik wrote:NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'.
I spend quite a bit of time ratting in 0.0 and to date i have never parked myself in a hostile system and gone AFK.
I also rat in systems where there is usually at least one or two turd burglars doing this to us. Sometimes I get ganked, boo hoo. I reship, wait a while, and start again. I'm sorry you can't handle risk in nullsec but that's just how it goes. Deal with it. |
Trisha Landers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.07 03:18:00 -
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Instead of stopping people from sitting in a system cloaked, would it be beneficial to change how cloaked characters are displayed in local chat?
A person jumps into system, goes to a safe, and cloaks. If at least 30 minutes (or however long) have passed since activating their cloak module and they haven't entered warp during that time then they disappear from local. (So it would also be 30 minutes since their last warp) At any time if they drop cloak, enter warp, or speak in local chat then they appear in local again. Moving around on the same grid while cloaked would not make them appear and would not affect them disappearing from local.
Cloaking in a system is still possible, but you can get an idea if someone becomes active again if they start warping around. Might not have enough time to do much about it if it's a fast warping ship though, but at least there will be a little extra warning before a cyno is suddenly lit on top of you.
A cloaked person that is not visible in local could still be tracked down by agents and would still show online/offline status in contacts.
I have no idea how possible this is from a development standpoint though or how unbalanced this might be. Or if it even really solves anything. But I'd still be interested in thoughts from other people. |
Shurgin Ambraelle
The Flying Dead
Bloodline.
5
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Posted - 2014.05.07 03:54:00 -
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All very good points (no pun) so here is my take. What about a sonar ping like technology on a prober. You have to have mad skills for it and it can only be used once in a certain like (ie doomsday, ECM burst) and when you ping them it renders their cloak O.O.S. for a certain duration and/or damaged that can be repaired by Nanopaste. Then you probe out the cloaker and if he/she is afk... pop. It prevents the cloaky camper from just sitting around. Or make the module to ping them come from a POS.
Just an idea. Anchoring 5 and Scanning 5 needed? Go ahead let me have it.
-The Gene Pool Could Use a Little Chlorine!!
Proud Member of the Flying Dead/Bloodline
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Loki Lokium
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:06:00 -
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While I don't support the OP's idea, I do think some limitation on the cloaking device is needed, such as a Fuel or a Overheat timer would make it a little harder on the cloakers to stay cloaked indefinitely, while still allowing them to actually do their little camping effort.
Fuel: A gas or isotope or similar used as fuel to maintain the modules availability.
Overheat timer: after say 2 hours use the module must shut down to cool down before becoming available again.
I have read most of the original threads on this topic, and all I have seen is cloakers crying about it because they might loose their one advantage in game.
I would say that a limitation on the device is needed, but within reason, The device does still have its uses.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
716
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:07:00 -
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Shurgin Ambraelle wrote:All very good points (no pun) so here is my take. What about a sonar ping like technology on a prober. You have to have mad skills for it and it can only be used once in a certain like (ie doomsday, ECM burst) and when you ping them it renders their cloak O.O.S. for a certain duration and/or damaged that can be repaired by Nanopaste. Then you probe out the cloaker and if he/she is afk... pop. It prevents the cloaky camper from just sitting around. Or make the module to ping them come from a POS.
Just an idea. Anchoring 5 and Scanning 5 needed? Go ahead let me have it.
Just switching it off would b eenough.
However seeming as the only argument against AFK cloaking is it makes renters nervous ... I see no real reason to change it at all. |
Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
47
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:10:00 -
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Can we all go cloaky in Branch together?
HTFU. |
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ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
124
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:13:00 -
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Greetings
Thread is being locked as this horse is dead. By this I mean to say that this topic in every form has been hashed over by the best and the worst of us. Also in the future please be sure to post ideas about how to improve the game and discussion of mechanics or modules in the Features and Ideas (F&I) forums. Where this post will also be moved to.
The Rule that covers this is:
16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
Remember, post well, post original, and post often my friends.
On On
ISD Flidais Asagiri
Lt. Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
839
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:15:00 -
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In after lock
Wait how did this work? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4868
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:16:00 -
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Arg you beat me to it!
Heck.
In AFTER the lock.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Loki Lokium
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:26:00 -
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How about we get an actual discussion going on the merits for and against limitations of the Cloaking device instead of abuse and spam? or is that too hard for some? |
Nakami Saans
Perkone
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:33:00 -
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This topic is so redundant the lock broke...
Rainbow Worrior of EVE...well...maybe worrior is too strong a word.-á I like to site see ^.^
Would like to make connections with other LGBT players, possibly a corp
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