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Useful Alt Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:04:00 - [1] - Quote Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card. I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember. people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think I will take the 131$ special for a year. people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is. so ccp will lose 69$ from me. someone won, someone lost i'm between the two.
rodyas The Scope Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:09:00 - [2] - Quote Oh no someone has caught on to the dark and destructive underbelly the jita protests brought. I also heard that big market players plan on buying up all the new T3 BC at launch so players cant fly them for months, players hate it and start unsubscribing. CCP: -2 then Special council of anti ccp and aurum: +2
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 324	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:09:00 - [3] - Quote Useful Alt wrote: Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card. I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember. people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think I will take the 131$ special for a year. people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is. so ccp will lose 69$ from me. someone won, someone lost i'm between the two. wow, thats really funny because your decision to pay coupled with my not giving a crap that you are now paying will have no effect on my intention to purchase PLEX if the mood might strike me, or any one else who wants to plex it up during this time of giddy high plex prices. so guess what, CCP wins The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 85	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:13:00 - [4] - Quote You don't even have a portrait! How can we trust faceless people Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 144	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:13:00 - [5] - Quote Let's blame the goons for everything.
Handsome Hussein 102	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:16:00 - [6] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: You don't even have a portrait! How can we trust faceless people Confirming you have a FACE. And that OP is unimportant. Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 330	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:24:00 - [7] - Quote BPOs unlike plex are NPC provided and will restock automatically at a slightly higher price until DT. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Russell Casey One Ton Reverberation Project 86	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:20:00 - [8] - Quote PLEX=EVE's greatest scam. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Let's blame the goons for everything. Goons did 9/11 and Mittens was the second JFK shooter.
rodyas The Scope Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:28:00 - [9] - Quote Russell Casey wrote: PLEX=EVE's greatest scam. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Let's blame the goons for everything. Goons did 9/11 and Mittens was the second JFK shooter. lol Also heard a rumor goons gave alot of isk to BP right before the oil spill. They are also why elevator music is played instead of cool music as you go up and down buildings. They are the reason the Big MAc is full of salt and saturated fat. Why it took a few years to free the slaves. And are also against net neutriality.
Rassad Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD. 2	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:28:00 - [10] - Quote Dont buy McDonalds this week, and treat yourself to an extra plex and get 600m isk
Kietay Ayari Monopoly Money Operations 41	Posted - 2011.11.16 04:36:00 - [11] - Quote Rassad wrote: Dont buy McDonalds this week, and treat yourself to an extra plex and get 600m isk So true... Hey everyone! Do you want to spend 3-4 days grinding ISK to play the game? :D or do you want to work one extra hour one day and have a sub + 500m ISK for yourself to buy all the pretty Feroxes you want? Easy peasy choice! Ferox #1
Jita Alt666 549	Posted - 2011.11.16 05:59:00 - [12] - Quote Russell Casey wrote: PLEX=EVE's greatest scam. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Let's blame the goons for everything. Goons did 9/11 and Mittens was the second JFK shooter. Goons caused the big bang.
Merovee Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor 2	Posted - 2011.11.16 06:52:00 - [13] - Quote Goons elected Obama Really.
Naran Eto Degenerate Corp Forsaken Knights 63	Posted - 2011.11.16 09:13:00 - [14] - Quote Russell Casey wrote: PLEX=EVE's greatest scam. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Let's blame the goons for everything. Goons did 9/11 and Mittens was the second JFK shooter. Goons also faked the moon landing.
mkint 335	Posted - 2011.11.16 09:31:00 - [15] - Quote Naran Eto wrote: Russell Casey wrote: PLEX=EVE's greatest scam. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Let's blame the goons for everything. Goons did 9/11 and Mittens was the second JFK shooter. Goons also faked the moon landing. Goon terrorism I could believe. Goon's being smart enough to fake the moon landing, I don't buy.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 176	Posted - 2011.11.16 09:51:00 - [16] - Quote I blame the Goons and The Mittens in particular for making it so that I am addicted to this game. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2011.11.16 10:15:00 - [17] - Quote Since there is no "real gain"in obtaining large ammount of isk for cash they won nothing. In the end they will have to drop the prices. Current prices are up, because of time for PLEX, 5-day re-activation etc. so those people who unsubbed and see that winter expansion gonna be great have to actually go through more expenses, ultimately they will buy it with cash, and the ones who pushing it up will drop it down to norm 350mil +/- which is somewhat normal price for anyone who dont have botting army, incursions yeah yeah, never done them, heard there are good ISK in it, however what i get the isk coming from LP change and currently faction things are near as cheap as T1 so not an great income afterwards. You can actually have two navy thrones for one PLEX which is sick. And the concord named cap modules nobody wants anymore since everybody gets them and gets the spare. Nobody wins, nobody loses. PLEX on market are already payed for so even if the one who owns them decide to trash them, only CCP will get happier. Since they no longer have to provide service for it.
Dr Karsun Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor 0	Posted - 2011.11.16 10:28:00 - [18] - Quote Nova Fox wrote: BPOs unlike plex are NPC provided and will restock automatically at a slightly higher price until DT. You didn't get the troll, did you? "Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting!
The Offerer Republic University Minmatar Republic 49	Posted - 2011.11.16 10:43:00 - [19] - Quote Kietay Ayari wrote: Rassad wrote: Dont buy McDonalds this week, and treat yourself to an extra plex and get 600m isk So true... Hey everyone! Do you want to spend 3-4 days grinding ISK to play the game? :D or do you want to work one extra hour one day and have a sub + 500m ISK for yourself to buy all the pretty Feroxes you want? Easy peasy choice! That would require working extra time just to pay for the game. Ain't gonna happen.
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2011.11.16 10:45:00 - [20] - Quote The Offerer wrote: Kietay Ayari wrote: Rassad wrote: Dont buy McDonalds this week, and treat yourself to an extra plex and get 600m isk So true... Hey everyone! Do you want to spend 3-4 days grinding ISK to play the game? :D or do you want to work one extra hour one day and have a sub + 500m ISK for yourself to buy all the pretty Feroxes you want? Easy peasy choice! That would require working extra time just to pay for the game. Ain't gonna happen. well unless you concidering making isk as the goal of your game, then making ISK for PLEX is indeed extra work time. Badly payed i may add.
Florestan Bronstein The Waterworks 169	Posted - 2011.11.16 11:07:00 - [21] - Quote Jaroslav Unwanted wrote: incursions yeah yeah, never done them, heard there are good ISK in it, however what i get the isk coming from LP change and currently faction things are near as cheap as T1 so not an great income afterwards. You can actually have two navy thrones for one PLEX which is sick. And the concord named cap modules nobody wants anymore since everybody gets them and gets the spare. the issue is not how much ISK you make but how much ISK enters/leaves the system. LP stores are an ISK sink.
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2011.11.16 11:11:00 - [22] - Quote Florestan Bronstein wrote: Jaroslav Unwanted wrote: incursions yeah yeah, never done them, heard there are good ISK in it, however what i get the isk coming from LP change and currently faction things are near as cheap as T1 so not an great income afterwards. You can actually have two navy thrones for one PLEX which is sick. And the concord named cap modules nobody wants anymore since everybody gets them and gets the spare. the issue is not how much ISK you make but how much ISK enters/leaves the system. LP stores are an ISK sink. I think i understand that. I just wanted to point out that the price of PLEX got actually nothing to do with that. Because if it did than every player made "object" would raise.
Sephira Galamore Evolution of the Mind Luna Sanguinem 3	Posted - 2011.11.16 12:21:00 - [23] - Quote Jita Alt666 wrote: Goons caused the big bang. Which has made a lot of people very angry and I still think it was a bad move.
Keen Fallsword Billionaires Club C0VEN 23	Posted - 2011.11.16 12:37:00 - [24] - Quote Its good plex was the worst what happen in this game ! ******* alts ...
Xyrcaryn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.16 12:38:00 - [25] - Quote Ban people paying with PLEX for years(like OP), this should solve the PLEX deficit and probably botting too
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 203	Posted - 2011.11.16 12:39:00 - [26] - Quote rodyas wrote: Oh no someone has caught on to the dark and destructive underbelly the jita protests brought. I also heard that big market players plan on buying up all the new T3 BC at launch so players cant fly them for months, players hate it and start unsubscribing. CCP: -2 then Special council of anti ccp and aurum: +2 I'll sell them about 100M piece, hope those guys are rich
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2011.11.16 12:40:00 - [27] - Quote Xyrcaryn wrote: Ban people paying with PLEX for years(like OP), this should solve the PLEX deficit and probably botting too thats actually interesting tin-foilery there.... If the PLEXes rise beyond the point of botting army survivability / cost effectivness then... However sometimes even good cause doesnt go well with collateral damage caused. It would be great without bots "maybe, since i dont care really" however only few thousands of active people will eventually remain.
Keen Fallsword Billionaires Club C0VEN 23	Posted - 2011.11.16 12:41:00 - [28] - Quote Useful Alt wrote: Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card. I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember. people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think I will take the 131$ special for a year. people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is. so ccp will lose 69$ from me. someone won, someone lost i'm between the two. Soon your sugar-daddies will all be gone You wake up some cold day and find you're alone You'll call for me but I'm gonna tell you bye, bye, bye When I turn around and walk away you'll cry, cry, cry
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2011.11.16 12:42:00 - [29] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: Useful Alt wrote: Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card. I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember. people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think I will take the 131$ special for a year. people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is. so ccp will lose 69$ from me. someone won, someone lost i'm between the two. Soon your sugar-daddies will all be gone You wake up some cold day and find you're alone You'll call for me but I'm gonna tell you bye, bye, bye When I turn around and walk away you'll cry, cry, cry And this is relevant how ?
Useful Alt Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2011.11.16 22:45:00 - [30] - Quote And it's done.
Chelone Outside The Asylum 6	Posted - 2011.11.16 22:59:00 - [31] - Quote Kietay Ayari wrote: Hey everyone! Do you want to spend 3-4 days grinding ISK to play the game? :D or do you want to work one extra hour one day and have a sub + 500m ISK for yourself to buy all the pretty Feroxes you want? Easy peasy choice! So you make $27 an hour? That's nice, most people don't.
Arya Greywolf Tasty Beverage 3	Posted - 2011.11.17 04:39:00 - [32] - Quote Useful Alt wrote: Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card. I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember. people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think I will take the 131$ special for a year. people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is. so ccp will lose 69$ from me. someone won, someone lost i'm between the two. Useful alt is useful. Anyway, I think you've actually done yourself a favor. Instead of grinding ISK to pay for your PLEX, now you can be spend that time actually doing things you enjoy in the game... Like actually, well, I dunno - PLAY? Right off the bat $131 seems like a lot but it's not - especially if you're committing a good portion of time to playing EVE. It's your entertainment. How much do you spend on a couple beers + food during a night out with friends? Add that up over a year; it's a lot. Obviously, those with ludicrous amounts of ISK will always pay with PLEX. Otherwise, I'd HANDS DOWN rather pay to subscribe than grinding to then be able to play a game that I consider FUN.
Holy One SniggWaffe 77	Posted - 2011.11.17 04:44:00 - [33] - Quote Useful Alt wrote: Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card.. We need quantitative easing bro! No wait .. Anyway yeah, I have so far not felt an overpowering urge to reach for the plastic. Once the isk runs out, I'll be joining the 'see what they do, not what they say' crowd. Altho ccp could release an amazing patch and I'd still be 'out' of the mindset and probably not resub.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 345	Posted - 2011.11.17 05:13:00 - [34] - Quote Trolls are not exactly able to communicate to a kitsune so well. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Ai Shun State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.11.17 08:35:00 - [35] - Quote Chelone wrote: So you make $27 an hour? That's nice, most people don't. I can sell Nit Shampoo at a volume discount in Jita if you'd like to negotiate a bulk deal. That is if you want to stop picking them. So for somebody only earning double the minimum wage it's a couple of hours of work to afford a PLEX + subscription. Spending $50 a month on a hobby that provides how many hours of entertainment? What about a $100? The cost/benefit ratio is just too extreme to even compute. And if you can't afford it; or you're unwilling to pay for it - well - go without. It's not like it's a life-saving medical treatment or food on the table. It's a video game and some virtual currency.

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