I think it's coo mang

also how bout a rev buff this patch as well

Now if only missiles didn't have a flight time, the phoenix might be useful.

Also, this is kinda an indirect buff to rags, which is hilarious. (Armor caps with rag boosts take ~40% less damage from citadel torps)

40% damage reduction is a pretty great bonus tbh. I mean, in any other situation they're garbage, but since we're living ina world where people fly phoenixes, might as well pretend people will use rags.

Okay, time to eat some humble pie. I can't remember, for the life of me -- did Guided Missile Precision get changed to affect torpedoes, HAMs, and rockets? Checking chruker.dk leads me to believe this is the case, since all missiles have the "aimedLaunch" property at 1, but I can't find any indication from Google that this was changed.

If Guided Missile Precision affects capital torps, then the 50% increase in explosion radius isn't quite as bad as it looks.

For all the people moaning about increased Explosion Radius...

1. TPs work on capital ships as well as subcaps (when they're not in siege/triage)
2. Capital rigor rigs reduce explosion radii by 15% for T1 and 20% for T2

So there might be a new "standard phoenix fit". So what. That's not unusual after a significant rebalance like this.

Is this back calculated from the flippant comment's vignette about the situation or is it a result of actually knowing? It's entirely possible that the increase in POS module signature radiuses was performed without taking skills into account. It's not a very good indicator of reality.

Guided Missile Precision does indeed apply to all Citadel Missiles.

Settle down kids.

It's probably just being done so that if you have GMP at zero, you aren't at a disadvantage for shooting stationary structures, since missiles still enjoy damage reduction if the thing you are shooting is smaller than the explosion radius of the missile you are firing, regardless of whether it moves or not.

They only sit sub 2k if they have a ragnarok passing bonuses in fleet.

I mean, if you want to bring a ragnarok with you on every single pos shot that you do on the off chance that a phoenix fleet shows up, so you can take 90% of the damage you would otherwise just by dint of your ragnarok bonuses, then I'd say go hog wild.

Read the post above yours. :V

You think I secretly went back in time and made GMP apply to Citadel Missiles back in Retribution just to make you look bad?

Hey fozzie, ran some EFT tests with the new numbers, and they still aren't very rosy.

After patch, a all LV5 character will have torps at 2250 explosion radius, 52.5 explosion velocity.

Against linked carriers moving at full speed, the new torps are still only able to apply 60% of their nominal damage, while certainly better than the 50% now, it's still pretty pathetic. The explosion radius change means against linked armor carriers (using an archon for example) it's not possible to even hit a carrier standing still for full damage, because the sig of the carrier is now below the sig for the torps. so the situation arises that you can't hit a triage carrier for full damage because you can't paint them to boost their sig.