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Acks
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:20:00 -
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I felt the following needed to be explained to the EVE Community, so that they could understand why certain decisions have been made.
RONA has been to many places in the Eve universe, from 0.0 to empire, and back again. We have been in some of the largest and somewhat notorious alliances in EVE, and helped sculpt major EVE political events.
What follows is a brief explanation of recent developments. I, as acting CEO, had dealt with a lot of things while in several alliances; mainly intrapersonal issues with other alliance members. The effects of which were profound, almost depressing in fact. It essentially brought me to the point where I almost felt sick login into EVE. So I had a decision to make: quit, or take a break from EVE. Thankfully, I chose the latter. Due to me being an unhappy CEO, we lost membership, leadership was fluttering, at best. I personally take all the blame for that, as I'm the only one responsible.
However, a few things happened while I was on break. Robeyone contacted me, expressing interest in starting to play again. I was more than happy to oblige as we had an agreement from a few years back that would allow this to happen. Unfortunately, due to real life, he no longer has time to play.
Robeyone, ****take, and I had an initial meeting to discuss the future of RONA. I left it to them to decide how they wanted to pursue the future.
Unfortunately, I had no idea this new idea would involve multiple corps. From experience, running multiple corporations in EVE is problematic, at best. Regardless, I tried to make the best of it, knowing that RONA was in very capable hands. We had several issues from the start, one being separate forums that widened the ever-growing rift. Members moved to RONA Deepspace, thinking that they were staying in the RONA family. A myriad of issues spawned after this making it near impossible for RONA and RONA Deepspace to see eye-to-eye. All of this, I believe, stemmed from me; me being unhappy with EVE a few months ago. My unhappy, cynical mentality was, apparently, contagious.
However, there is some good to this story. I am no longer unhappy with playing EVE, so our problems are one step closer to being solved. RONA now has a solid management structure, a good deal of wealth, and a solid industrial base -- back to the beginnings, as it were.
I had to make a decision about RONA Deepspace, I also did not come to this decision alone. This was a necessary, decision. I, as acting CEO, can only do what is right for RONA Corporation.
From this point forward, RONA Corporation and RONA Deepspace are no longer affiliated. Our political ideologies are different, our in game goals are different, and our management style and policies are different. There is nothing tying us together in EVE, save for respect for one another, and a name -- our name. I would hope ****take does the right thing and dissolve RONAD, starting a new corp without the RONA namesake. I, as well as everybody at RONA, wish them all the best in EVE. And most importantly, I hope everyone has fun playing this great game.
Acks
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Bland Inquisitor
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 25/05/2006 12:26:47 So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Oh and for traditions sake 1st
Alliances Pwn All
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Auman
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:29:00 -
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Great to hear you're back in game and I'm really glad things are getting sorted in RONA.
Best of luck in the future 
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:33:00 -
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Gl acks! Good to see your back to enjoying the game.
Much respect, as always. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Auman Great to hear you're back in game and I'm really glad things are getting sorted in RONA.
Best of luck in the future 
What the evil BoB infidel said ^^
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 25/05/2006 12:26:47 So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Oh and for traditions sake 1st
I would say that RONA people care. There is quite obviously alot you simply don't understand, something many of us do.
Best wishes Acks. --
-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |

Bland Inquisitor
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 25/05/2006 12:26:47 So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Oh and for traditions sake 1st
I would say that RONA people care. There is quite obviously alot you simply don't understand, something many of us do.
Best wishes Acks.
For all the clever words in his post if you stop and read he is simply *****ing about the fact that sumone used RONA in RONAD which is u spell backwards and twiddle a few words spells.... NORAD.
Alliances Pwn All
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:38:00 -
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GL dude
You've got to put you and your corp first. If you and your corp aren't happy, it makes playing this game a chore.
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Auman
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 25/05/2006 12:26:47 So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Oh and for traditions sake 1st
I wasn't going to respond to you but as you're keen to flame this thread I'll answer your question.
I care. If you'd ever had the pleasure to speak to Acks you might to.
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Dave Tehsulei
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Dave Tehsulei on 25/05/2006 12:46:01 Good move acks
Having dealt with the members of RONAD/OCC - POE recently im glad to here RONA isnt involved with them
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bland Inquisitor For all the clever words in his post if you stop and read he is simply *****ing about the fact that sumone used RONA in RONAD which is u spell backwards and twiddle a few words spells.... NORAD.
If you really believe this is an issue with anything involving NORAD the alliance, you really haven't quite seen the ball since kickoff.
You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about. I will leave it to those more closely involved to explain and clarify the meaning of the original post if they so choose. --
-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bland Inquisitor So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Wow. Ignorance at its best. There are quite a few people who are curious as to the status of RONA.
You see, RONA is more than just another corp. It is one of the oldest and most recognized names in the game. If you weren't so busy spreading vitriol about people and things you have no clue about you might have bothered to educate yourself a bit more about EVE's political landscape and history. -
History of the MC movie! |

Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Bland Inquisitor
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 25/05/2006 12:26:47 So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Oh and for traditions sake 1st
I would say that RONA people care. There is quite obviously alot you simply don't understand, something many of us do.
Best wishes Acks.
For all the clever words in his post if you stop and read he is simply *****ing about the fact that sumone used RONA in RONAD which is u spell backwards and twiddle a few words spells.... NORAD.
For the sake of us all here, please refrain from posting.
GL to ya Acks! --------------------------------
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teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dave Tehsulei Edited by: Dave Tehsulei on 25/05/2006 12:46:01 Good move acks
Having dealt with the members of RONAD/OCC - POE recently im glad to here RONA isnt involved with them
First of all, this isn't an OCC/POE thread. However, since you feel the need to bring my corps name into it, why don't you elaborate a bit? Because as far as I'm aware, the only "dealings" you have with OCC is being -10.
PS. Hi Acks, long time no see! _________________________________
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Bland Inquisitor So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Wow. Ignorance at its best. There are quite a few people who are curious as to the status of RONA.
You see, RONA is more than just another corp. It is one of the oldest and most recognized names in the game. If you weren't so busy spreading vitriol about people and things you have no clue about you might have bothered to educate yourself a bit more about EVE's political landscape and history.
Damn right!
Welcome back Acks. ____________________________________________
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BlackRain
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:10:00 -
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Bland Inquisitor, you are an idiot. Stop posting.
Acks, good luck to you and all the RONA guys. -------------------
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 25/05/2006 12:26:47 So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Oh and for traditions sake 1st
Say what
*snip* Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty |

csebal
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Bland Inquisitor So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Wow. Ignorance at its best. There are quite a few people who are curious as to the status of RONA.
You see, RONA is more than just another corp. It is one of the oldest and most recognized names in the game. If you weren't so busy spreading vitriol about people and things you have no clue about you might have bothered to educate yourself a bit more about EVE's political landscape and history.
/signed
The name is their flag.
It's the banner they are flying under, it contains the souls of all those who raised that banner to the heights it is at. It is a piece of history and a piece of everyone's life in RONA.
Bland Inquisitor. Maybe one day your will have the luck to fly under such a banner. I'm sure that at least then you'll understand why some people are so protective about it. In the meantime, just stop pretending you know more than you actually do.
GL Acks. Glad to hear you are still with us. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of anyone else besides me. No matter what YOU believe. |

Yarek Balear
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:25:00 -
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Sounds like you've been perhaps too sensitive to catering to others wishes in the past m8. Bear in mind that Rona are one of the long standing, successful and recognised corps in EVE. Never flown with you (although think I got spanked by you once or twice )... Take some credit for that and have fun with what you do from here on in 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:32:00 -
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Good luck RONA, still one of the corps i remember since my beginning..
BDCI Recruitment Officer |
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:34:00 -
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Acks, all the best to you and your crew in your future endevours.
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Calisto Cody
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:38:00 -
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GL RONA
and who the feck is bland, he irritates me.. , as for who cares . we do, so we post ...think about that before you hit reply next time
The Black Swan Society
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Renox
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Posted - 2006.05.25 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Bland Inquisitor So, u tried to work with a corp. It failed. He has the first four letters or your corp in his corp and you want him to dissolve it because his ideas are diffrent from your own
So, my question is
Who cares?
Wow. Ignorance at its best. There are quite a few people who are curious as to the status of RONA.
You see, RONA is more than just another corp. It is one of the oldest and most recognized names in the game. If you weren't so busy spreading vitriol about people and things you have no clue about you might have bothered to educate yourself a bit more about EVE's political landscape and history.
Well said
The Rona name and corporation has a lot of history and really should only be carried by the entity to which it belongs.
TheJay > grrr slow stupid garlic eating surrender monkeys |

Jascal
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Posted - 2006.05.25 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jascal on 25/05/2006 14:18:42 To be finished... -Old and in the way . . Shine up the Mod's bullet before you let them carry it in their shirt pocket :) |

Zamaajin Riis
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Posted - 2006.05.25 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Zamaajin Riis on 25/05/2006 14:23:19 Best wishes to RONA for a future as long and illustrious as your past. It would have been preferrable to see our two corps move forward in close concert, but things don't always work out the way one would like them to.
Speaking only for myself, and not for all RONAD, I believe that one measure of a leader's greatness is their ability to step up and accept responsibility for their own failures. Your willingness to do so in such a public fashion speaks volumes, Acks.
Having once been a member of RONA, then RONA-KIA, and now RONAD, I can say that it is with regret that I see the formerly de riguer concept of a group of corps affiliated under a single umbrella fall by the wayside. However, I can certainly understand your wish to consolidate all of your holdings under your direct control during your rebuilding phase. Best of luck to you in that endeavour.
I'm frankly not sure what's going to happen with the name at this point; there are a lot of members of RONAD that truly care about RONA and our friends still therein. Many of us were caught quite by surprise by the way RONA has chosen to redefine our relationship, and are currently engaged in the kind of dialog that we would have hoped would be the hallmark of any members corps formally unified under the RONA name. There are, however, no hard feelings; as such, we will extend RONA the same courtesy we would any other corporation, and happily maintain neutral standings.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2006.05.25 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 25/05/2006 14:51:11 moral of the story?
stop making sub-corps to aovid alliance was 
Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas' |

Ze4K DK
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Posted - 2006.05.25 14:52:00 -
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Sorry to break all you guys balls that says that it's "their" banner and stuff like that but you seem to be forgetting that RONA Deepspace was named so because of Robeyone wanted them to have that name... Also the members of RONA Deepspace has as much right to the RONA name as Acks and his guys have since many of them were also part of building up the RONA that today is so legendary...
RONA has for a long time been on a slope downwards, sitting still in empire and losing members and i sincerely hope they can get back on track...
I do not know the full cause of this split but perhaps Acks would care to explain further?
Yes i know that we got the reason that they don't have the same goals and such but what is RONA's goals and political ideologies then?
Also if the members that left RONA for RONA Deepspace only did so because they thought they were staying in the RONA family why aren't they going back to RONA now that you have clarified this for them?
I say that RONA Deepspace should keep the name because at the end of the day they deserve it as much as Acks and his crew, if not more... |

Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 25/05/2006 15:14:58 Sad that it got to that stage but sounds like an absolutely sound decision.
<3 Acks
I would hope RONAD do the honourable thing and reform under a different name so that the average joe can draw the distinction that they are not the same entity any more. A name change isn't exactly unprecedented when it comes to the issue of demerging from Rona 
Good luck Acks, come and join us on TS sometime :)
We still want KadaEl btw 
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:16:00 -
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Also we would still like to have KadaEl 
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:21:00 -
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Heh good ole Acks, WB to game grumpy one
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