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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
392
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:31:00 -
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Alyth Nerun wrote: The joy comes of course from the fact that I helped that miner become a better player and even better person by teaching him a vital lesson about the game and the CODE, which is of course the law in Highsec. You seam to forget that we are the good guys in Highsec, always ready to help the miners with leadership, order and our friendship.
We help to stabilize this vital part of the game from where almost all the resources for our ships come from. I think we can both agree that this important profession needs reliable and healthy pilots which follow the law and make us all proud to be citizens of Highsec.
When I look into my system and it's only populated with responsive and kind people all with their mining permits ready to prove their loyalties to James 315 and The New Order, then I know I am doing the right thing and make a difference.
You can make a difference too, all it needs is faith in the CODE and some SP in Gallente Destroyer
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... CODE, always good for a laugh. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
163
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:37:00 -
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Propaganda works when people start to not defend it, but reasonably explain why and how their party is actually a good thing. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13380
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:03:00 -
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Trolling is timeless.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

hnfnfhfthfth fthftjhnjfjf
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:46:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Trolling is timeless.
No, trolling is so 2007.
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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
250
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:52:00 -
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Ultimately the people who are responsible for all the grief that miners get are the CCP devs themselves.
If they gave the players more interesting content they wouldn't have time to harass miners. |

Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2194
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:55:00 -
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Dalloway Jones wrote:Ultimately the people who are responsible for all the grief that miners get are the CCP devs themselves.
If they gave the players more interesting content they wouldn't have time to harass miners.
you do realize that "harassing miners" is creating content, right? One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
164
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:57:00 -
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Dalloway Jones wrote:Ultimately the people who are responsible for all the grief that miners get are the CCP devs themselves.
If they gave the players more interesting content they wouldn't have time to harass miners. The devs aren't responsible for content. This game doesn t work that way.
Besides, there is no amount of content any reasonable amount of devs could create, that's not grinded through in a short amount of time.
The issue isn't content or tools to create such, but people themselves. |

Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.10 01:34:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Dalloway Jones wrote:Ultimately the people who are responsible for all the grief that miners get are the CCP devs themselves.
If they gave the players more interesting content they wouldn't have time to harass miners. The devs aren't responsible for content. This game doesn t work that way. Besides, there is no amount of content any reasonable amount of devs could create, that's not grinded through in a short amount of time. The issue isn't content or tools to create such, but people themselves.
I'll give you 50% of the problem is people themselves. Generally people find the best places to get the most fun out of the game in whatever way they fancy. Yes, one could spend hours and hours trying to squeeze a few nice stories or kills out of the content desert that is low and null, or they could go to hisec and have such opportunities literally surround them every time they undock. So yes, if you want to blame people for being somewhat rational actors, okay, I guess you could, but it is silly. I'm not too broken up over it - I too would want to actually see something explode when I log in, rather than just system after system of people docking up.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5946
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Posted - 2014.05.10 01:59:00 -
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Alternative Splicing wrote:Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Dalloway Jones wrote:Ultimately the people who are responsible for all the grief that miners get are the CCP devs themselves.
If they gave the players more interesting content they wouldn't have time to harass miners. The devs aren't responsible for content. This game doesn t work that way. Besides, there is no amount of content any reasonable amount of devs could create, that's not grinded through in a short amount of time. The issue isn't content or tools to create such, but people themselves. I'll give you 50% of the problem is people themselves. Generally people find the best places to get the most fun out of the game in whatever way they fancy. Yes, one could spend hours and hours trying to squeeze a few nice stories or kills out of the content desert that is low and null, or they could go to hisec and have such opportunities literally surround them every time they undock. So yes, if you want to blame people for being somewhat rational actors, okay, I guess you could, but it is silly. I'm not too broken up over it - I too would want to actually see something explode when I log in, rather than just system after system of people docking up.
I once converted someone to suicide ganking by making them sit on the Perimeter gate with a cargo scanner for an hour. Wanting to see what's in their cargo holds very quickly morphs into wanting to have what's in their cargo holds.
To me, content is where you find it. And in highsec, it's pretty easy to find thanks to the population density, and the propensity of the citizens of highsec to fly around with far too much in their cargo holds.
But that doesn't mean that low and null are worthless. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
197
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Posted - 2014.05.10 03:19:00 -
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Pretty sure it was never cool. But whatever floats your boat. I just wish they'd leave their incredibly boring and awkward attempts at roleplay out of local chat. |
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Winchester Steele
1114
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Posted - 2014.05.11 15:48:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Confirming that The New Order and CODE. come off as 12 year old white kids trying to act gangsta.
Seriously, that analogy pretty much sums up the image I have of them.
That's strange. When I speak to them and listen in the various channels they come off (mostly anyhow) as guys and gals ranging from the mid to late 20's up to 50's and beyond who are really chill just having a good time with a liitle lighthearted RP in a silly spaceship game. Maybe a few who take it too far I suppose, but find me ANY community that doesn't have that issue.
I consider myself to be in strong support of the NO and I've got a 14 year old kid who thinks he is gangsta. Does that count?
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Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
84
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:04:00 -
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It's at least 8 years old, but new players come and want to be cool and it's fun for them to say
"look I'm cool to guise, ima make a post about killin miners tahahehehee"
It's humor is on the level of decade old regurgitated memes |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4052
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:07:00 -
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Space Juden wrote:It's at least 8 years old, but new players come and want to be cool and it's fun for them to say
"look I'm cool to guise, ima make a post about killin miners tahahehehee"
It's humor is on the level of decade old regurgitated memes
Whereas your toon's name is the epitome of class, right? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
84
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:09:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Space Juden wrote:It's at least 8 years old, but new players come and want to be cool and it's fun for them to say
"look I'm cool to guise, ima make a post about killin miners tahahehehee"
It's humor is on the level of decade old regurgitated memes Whereas your toon's name is the epitome of class, right?
When did I mention class? Or were you just personally hurt by what I said? I didn't mean to offend your epictrollz internet persona. I have no idea who you even are. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4052
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:13:00 -
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Space Juden wrote: It's humor is on the level of decade old regurgitated memes
Space Juden wrote: I have no idea who you even are.
I see you are proficient in decades old forum responses too lol "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1884
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:14:00 -
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It ceased being funny or "cool" after the 2nd-3rd Hulkageddon. It actually borders on hypocrisy and a bit ironic when you really look at it. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
10
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:56:00 -
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Alyth Nerun wrote:Graabeerd Khagah wrote: In today's climate, ganking is as old as Eve itself I'm sure and some things never change, and never will. I am however pretty convinced that after witnessing many attacks on miners that you so graciously "ENJOY" the aftermath of a kill in Hisec. I am sure your killboard reflects that as well. I am convinced sir that as far as you are concerned you go to bed at night with absolutely no remorse for your actions, sure it's just a game mind you but sometimes ingame attitudes gets taken back to reality and from there who knows.
When one such as you kill a mining ship and pod kill the miner, I am sure you are overjoyed to get very little out of the wrecks if anything at all save for implants and hard wiring. I am sure you are so overcome with joy when the miner raises the roof with you in local and that you just sit there at your computer laughing at the fool you are. I am sure you're fattening your wallet everytime you act in the matter to which you have publicly displayed.
The joy comes of course from the fact that I helped that miner become a better player and even better person by teaching him a vital lesson about the game and the CODE, which is of course the law in Highsec. You seam to forget that we are the good guys in Highsec, always ready to help the miners with leadership, order and our friendship. We help to stabilize this vital part of the game from where almost all the resources for our ships come from. I think we can both agree that this important profession needs reliable and healthy pilots which follow the law and make us all proud to be citizens of Highsec. When I look into my system and it's only populated with responsive and kind people all with their mining permits ready to prove their loyalties to James 315 and The New Order, then I know I am doing the right thing and make a difference. You can make a difference too, all it needs is faith in the CODE and some SP in Gallente Destroyer
Instead of all this needless typing, you can just say "Please notice us, we're relevant! I promise!"
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4053
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:59:00 -
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Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote: Instead of all this needless typing, you can just say "Please notice us, we're relevant! I promise!"
To be fair, the fact that people enjoy talking about them either for or against makes them more relevant to modern EvE than the vast majority of ten-a-penny mining outfits and supposed anti-ganker squads out there. "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1471
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:02:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote: Instead of all this needless typing, you can just say "Please notice us, we're relevant! I promise!"
To be fair, the fact that people enjoy talking about them either for or against makes them more relevant to modern EvE than the vast majority of ten-a-penny mining outfits and supposed anti-ganker squads out there. looks like 50% of those are alts of NO and other are just bored trolls.... The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4053
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:06:00 -
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March rabbit wrote: looks like 50% of those are alts of NO and other are just bored trolls....
Is it the NO alts or the bored trolls that talk about how much they dont care about NO and how they arent relevant? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
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Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
10
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:09:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote: Instead of all this needless typing, you can just say "Please notice us, we're relevant! I promise!"
To be fair, the fact that people enjoy talking about them either for or against makes them more relevant to modern EvE than the vast majority of ten-a-penny mining outfits and supposed anti-ganker squads out there. True, although The louder you scream, the more you are heard. I've tried fighting them in a wardec (They Dec'd us), they weren't all too interested in PVP beyond miners. So I doubt they have any real relevance and impact outside of a select subcategory of industry and the markets (ganking ships and barges). They are good at yelling, but actions speak louder than words, and when it comes to actions, they aren't that relevant |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4053
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:11:00 -
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Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote: Instead of all this needless typing, you can just say "Please notice us, we're relevant! I promise!"
To be fair, the fact that people enjoy talking about them either for or against makes them more relevant to modern EvE than the vast majority of ten-a-penny mining outfits and supposed anti-ganker squads out there. True, although The louder you scream, the more you are heard. I've tried fighting them in a wardec (They Dec'd us), they weren't all too interested in PVP beyond miners.
My Alliance was recently Decced by TAXU and one of their spin of groups.
Apparently the rot in PvP is strong these days as the once-great TAXU also seems to be only interested in noobs who arent pay attention or following rules while in their mining ships. "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5607
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:13:00 -
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Tar'z wrote:Is trolling miners becoming less cool? Discuss! Wait, you're telling me it's cool to troll miners!!?
When the **** did we get ice cream!!?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
460
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:15:00 -
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Whereas the New Order might have been an interesting angle a while back, any time someone mentions them, I have an image of smeared mayonnaise... |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4053
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:17:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Tar'z wrote:Is trolling miners becoming less cool? Discuss! Wait, you're telling me it's cool to troll miners!!?
Did that guy just say rings are cool?!
http://bit.ly/1uRfLbR "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
592
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:30:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.
i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok. unless miner tears cure cancer or something... unless the ganking has a monetary purpose I don't see it either.. seems it would get boring over time. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
458
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:35:00 -
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Tar'z wrote:content created
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EVE Buddy Invite - https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=047203f1-4124-42a1-b36f-39ca8ae5d6e2&action=buddy
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Vhelnik Cojoin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:42:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Graabeerd Khagah wrote: If for instance suicide ganking became too prevalent, then mining would cease to be profitable and people would stop mining. Simple as that. how could it when following the Code keeps you safe? The quoted paragraph was written by me for a different context. Please keep me out of this, thanks! Have you Communicated with your fellow capsuleers today? It is good for the EVE-oconomy and o-kay for you. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4054
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:49:00 -
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Vhelnik Cojoin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Graabeerd Khagah wrote: If for instance suicide ganking became too prevalent, then mining would cease to be profitable and people would stop mining. Simple as that. how could it when following the Code keeps you safe? The quoted paragraph was written by me for a different context. Please keep me out of this, thanks!
whut "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Agondray
Dark Forge Enterprise Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
108
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Posted - 2014.05.11 18:07:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.
i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok. unless miner tears cure cancer or something...
miners get ganked because they are easy targets to pad the killboards with of failed pvpers, on average 2 people can gank any barge, i have also seen gankers thay use nothing but battlecruisers like a brutix "to prove a point" as they say. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
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