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Tar'z
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.09 10:58:00 -
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What do you guys think?
One of my spy alts was in a CFC chat channel and I saw an interesting conversation between a few important-ish CFC members. They we're discussing a recent article on minerbumping.com and how funny it was, but also went on to comment on how "lame" and "old" griefing miners in high-sec is getting. They seemed amused still by the content created but seemed to have no interest in furthering their commitment in helping create it themselves.
One of the members made a comment that hit home. Loosely paraphrased he stated, "it just seems like the cool thing to do, and I have no interest grouping up with mindless sheep."
To me this makes sense. I've ganked a many dozen mining barges, freighters, orcas, marauders, but never under the motivation of simply trolling the person behind the keyboard. While I do not object to that in itself, I always wondered why miners got the brunt end of it while mission runners, haulers, PIers, manufacturers, and scores of other AFK income activities are largely ignored. IMO the most logical reason was given by the CFC members above.
Discuss! |
Jena Jamson
Pwn 'N Play
Nulli Secunda
57
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:02:00 -
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There's nothing to discuss. Play the game however the way you want to play it.
~ Fin ~ |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
1802
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:04:00 -
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That explains what you wrote in another thread about trolling miners being mindless sheep activity. Let us know what CFC thinks about brainless parrots.
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
151
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:05:00 -
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Change is coming. |
Dave Stark
5407
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:08:00 -
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I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.
i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok.
unless miner tears cure cancer or something... |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions
Headshot Gaming
379
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:09:00 -
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All good things...or bad for miners...must come to an end. We all knew eventually it would get boring and phase out some, until they go do something else, get bored, and come back. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
19932
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:11:00 -
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it may become boring after a while.
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Zappity
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
1051
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:13:00 -
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It's just the rhetoric around it that is becoming stale.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Dreadchain
Lavateinn
91
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:22:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.
Oh, but miner tears ARE much better. About 1 out of 3 miners will throw profanities at you, and maybe 1 in 20 will call real life death threats. The latter is a bit intimidating on the occasion, but mostly they are a hilarious read.
www.minerbumping.com |
Dave Stark
5408
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:23:00 -
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Dreadchain wrote:Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's. Oh, but miner tears ARE much better. About 1 out of 3 miners will throw profanities at you, and maybe 1 in 20 will call real life death threats. The latter is a bit intimidating on the occasion, but mostly they are a hilarious read.
i guess i don't have the patience to wait around for them to get back to their keyboards to send me hate mail. *shrug* |
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
754
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:24:00 -
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CFC
no interest grouping up with mindless sheep
ok
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
787
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:53:00 -
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Being a self hating miner is the new "in" thing. Nowadays I just take a big swig straight out of the bottle, fire up an alt in a Catalyst and blow my own Venture up.
Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention
Psychotic Monk joins BNI |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4032
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:14:00 -
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It isn't miners... Trolling stupid is therapeutic at the end of a hard day. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5906
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:18:00 -
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"Hey guys, NPC corp alt here. I totally have a spai in the CFC and stuff, and they say they're tired of miner ganking and it's like, lame and stuff."
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1373
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:18:00 -
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Jena Jamson wrote:There's nothing to discuss. Play the game however the way you want to play it.
~ Fin ~
well that was brisk of you. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
791
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:22:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jena Jamson wrote:There's nothing to discuss. Play the game however the way you want to play it.
~ Fin ~ well that was brisk of you.
That's all you have to say to Jena Jameson??
Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention
Psychotic Monk joins BNI |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1119
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:24:00 -
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Like everything in Eve... it ebb and flows. People get bored of certain types of activities, move on to other things. It'll cycle around again to miners getting harassed again eventually as the hot topic. Besides, it still happens, just people don't make that big of a deal out of it anymore like they used to. Just give it a while... you'll see The New Order in the forums again, spouting how virtuous and wonderful they are when they realize no one is paying them much attention these days.  |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3311
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:25:00 -
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Next up: MAURAUDERGEDDON! Harvesting sweet tears from billion ISK 35k EHP marauders.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9656
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:28:00 -
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Jena Jamson wrote:There's nothing to discuss.
he asked a question holy god what is this world coming to so many communists in these threads i hope your ******** falls in your soup
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3191
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:29:00 -
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Tar'z wrote:I saw an interesting conversation between a few important-ish CFC members.
i don't care what 'a few guys in a chat channel' think. |
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:29:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Being a self hating miner is the new "in" thing. Nowadays I just take a big swig straight out of the bottle, fire up an alt in a Catalyst and blow my own Venture up.
The only thing you have to worry about is that moment when you outsmart yourself by fitting a bit of tank you never expected yourself to have.
That's the point where you had better stop drinking and consider you might need help.
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Tar'z
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:30:00 -
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It would seem a large percentage of posters I have smack talked in the past few days have found their way into my thread.
Welcome! None of you are at all butthurt. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9656
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:31:00 -
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On a more serious note:
I never really much cared for suicide ganking. Did it a few times, but it just didn't do anything for me. I've considered getting into ganking mission runners as a potential source of income.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources
249
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:31:00 -
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Zappity wrote:It's just the rhetoric around it that is becoming stale.
Well, we would hope the miners would eventually adapt to do something to make content.
And to OPs question of why miners get the brunt of it whiel there are others afk out there: miners just sit in an easily warpable location and do nothing. The amount of effort in finding a miner capable of being ganked is astronomically low.
GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |
Spurty
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
1344
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:33:00 -
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Recent information appears to show that "mining" is bigger than pvp
More take part in this activity than any other.
It's getting a huge investment of love (update) as these people are the majority.
Also curious if they aren't swinging around to the dark side and grabbing barges themselves.
I imagine there is some degree of feeling crestfallen influencing that convo.
Some play eve as they are narcissistic an desire being in the news.
Who's the biggest narcissus around here again?
Yupe same group.
Hope they can do so etching big soon though. Eve needs a headline about 50 titans exploding to draw in some more fresh blood.
Hearing 8bill of rocks were mined isn't as catchy as 8trill in ships exploded.
*signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9656
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:35:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Recent information appears to show that "mining" is bigger than pvp
What recent information? The Gecko event?
I'd like to know how arbitrary goals for an event demonstrate in any way whether more mining is done than PVP.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3191
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:36:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Recent information appears to show that "mining" is bigger than pvp
More take part in this activity than any other.
bots don't count. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7329
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:37:00 -
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an npc character claiming he has a spy alt
lawl
Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Advanced Amateurs
1288
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:56:00 -
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Tar'z wrote:While I do not object to that in itself, I always wondered why miners got the brunt end of it while mission runners, haulers, PIers, manufacturers, and scores of other AFK income activities are largely ignored.
Principle of least resistance. Miners are sitting out in space, without any accelleration gates (missions), without being on-grid for just a few seconds a week (PI), without being docked 99% of the time (manufacturing). They get the brunt end because they are so available most of the time and cost the least effort to gank. |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2189
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:20:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Being a self hating miner is the new "in" thing. Nowadays I just take a big swig straight out of the bottle, fire up an alt in a Catalyst and blow my own Venture up. The only thing you have to worry about is that moment when you outsmart yourself by fitting a bit of tank you never expected yourself to have. That's the point where you had better stop drinking and consider you might need help.
this is now a widot fail thread?
or something like that ...
Seriously though -- things ebb and flow. we'll be done seeing people talking about CODE(dot) et. al. through the summer (probably), and then it'll pick up again in the fall.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
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