Nope, because they did not show up to show their disdain in abstaining. They might have been on vacation or too lazy to push butan or (to get back to the original point) they did not even bloody know that there was an election going on.

Thems the ones I want to get to.

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oh as an aside; votes are in may, been a while since i've been in education but i'm pretty sure may is exam season. sensible people value their education over space politics even if they do care.

Now THAT is a good point. On the assumption (no do not tell me what they say about assume) that we follow past forms the next election may not fall on that timeline. If Fanfest is in March and we elect the winners in March we will have to campaign sooner, vote in maybe even February. Or they can decide a year is a year and run the election after Fanfest.

But good point just the same

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Then I'm fine with this, although honestly I don't think this will fix the underlying problem.

Eve, as a community, consists of generally nice people. There are however, a few bad apples that take stuff way too far in RL. The process of becoming a CSM candidate involves releasing RL personal info. This prevents many people from running, and reduces candidate diversity.

Most of the CSM reperesents either the null blocs or WHs. Most of the player base is involved in neither of those. Increasing candidate diversity increases the likelihood that a non-bloc player will find an acceptable representative for his or her vote.

Choosing candidates to vote for was easier. But some of the voters did not bother to choose at all, they voted as their bloc had predetermined. It is in THEIR best interest that other lesser blocs or other voters believe the process to be flawed or useless. Thisd is what Weaselior is laughing about. Every person who declaims the election process as broken or the entire concept a farce hand the power to the organized groups who do vote.

The better way of phrasing it might be: Most of the CSM are elected by the better organized groups in the game. Oddly that mirrors society in RL as well.

Absolutely, but let's not feign surprise or ignorance as to the reason for the abysmally low percentage of the player base that actually votes.

Most players, particularly in hisec and lowsec are not nearly as well organized as their null and WH counterparts. It is understandably more difficult for those individuals to find adequate candidates that are both electable and reasonably representative. This leads to a feeling of disenfranchisement and low voter turnout. Yes, this is counterproductive to their actual interests.

To that end, including an "Abstain" option or an "All of you should go away" option might better inform CCP as to the feelings of the player base with regards to their so-called representatives.

I suggested that people take a % hit to their skill training time if they DIDN'T vote since psych studies show that you are more likely to respond to loss than bribes.

agreed, but that is the same mentality for voter antipathy in the real world. Bah, it all doesn't matter, that group over there controls it all anyway. If we can't cure it in the real world, what makes us think we can solve it here?

Dinsdale for CSM!

i would vote for dinsdale for csm as long as someone promised me video of the summits

And to comment on the low amount of Votes :

- 1 Announcment in Launcher, for most of the time second/thrid slide, so not really effective
- 1 News at mid-election to inform that Elections were opened, quickly overshadowed by some DevBlogs
- No "In game Login Screen Announcment" like there was every single year before
- No Candidates who actually reached out in Game to High Sec. I remember having at least 1 or 2 CSM candidates sending Eve-Mails to as much people as they could, this year around no one did it.

I would also say that each year players who are involved feels that the CSM is less and less meaningful and more and more of a "advisor" than anything else, which dosen't help getting people to actually read and vote :)

Where is the reason for hisec to vote for nullsec candidates?

you seem to think that the csm is a tool for pushing personal agendas. it's not.

I would love an abstain button.

Where is the reason for hisec to vote for nullsec candidates?
It mostly seems that there is little to no give on Dev ideas and CSM members in the nullsec groups just get NDA materials they can work off of six months before anyone else solidifying their position well before its public.
With the perception of that sort of Nullsec/Dev relationship, Why would it matter for the small hisec industrialist to vote for? its all the same anyways. Blue Donut is blue donut
A similar hisec candidate isnt going to have much power in the null dominated CSM, nor are they going to share the same way that the nullsec members are assumed to.

Where are the polls for next expansion directions?
No real voting system for actual improvements.

We can vote for a CSM but one of the many reasons so many of us live in hisec is because we cannot maintain a Nullsec (or more accurately, what is perceived as a) schedule.
We could vote all hisec candidates if there was any organization, but if we, as individuals, could really put that kind of campaigning time into it, we would most likely be nullsec leaders or candidates.
Hisec voices generally get ignored in the greater clamor of semi mindless nullsec block votes. And even with the DEv blog feedback that too seems to get lost in general clamor of badposting goons.

What gets recited to us the most , on the forums and in the game is "Vote with your wallet" which when you think about it is a really terrible statement for someone who wants to improve the game. If the only way you can help change a game is to quit, well whats the point?

As someone in game with more cap bpo's then corpmates, "go along or quit" because i cant organize to beat the 1200 goon votes for the nullsec candidates it is a really pretty lackluster election.

If there is no reason to vote then there should be no vote.

i would vote for dinsdale for csm as long as someone promised me video of the summits

there is a reason to vote, that reason isn't to push personal agendas though.

there is a reason to vote, that reason isn't to push personal agendas though.

Another reason I will never run.
Any video of the summits would have a good chance of being used in court proceedings.

Of course it is used to push personal agendas, or at least, group advantages.

Apparently this is rocket science level V.

If you actually read the thread carefully from the beginning and sound the big words out you will see that a big concern is that a lot of players aren't aware that the CSM process even exists. Wouldn't giving away free stuff alleviate most of that concern? Perhaps we can compare the number of people who voted in the election to the number of people who got their free Gecko drones?