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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.26 16:33:00 -
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A sad day without BoB. Will forever be missed. 
Take care and Godspeed.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.26 16:34:00 -
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noooooo
thx Exekias for cool sig
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.26 16:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Tarn Star
1. His idea for a movie. I've read his thread on it and come on guys; he was just defending his point of view. What he was trying to say was that any production he was trying to do should not be compared to any of the Evolution videos, whether they were out or not. Imagine if everyone laughed at everyone who had an idea for a Sci-Fi movie after 2001 - A Space Odyssey. Just because it was done before does not mean it should not be done again. He was asking for expressions of interest from people who may want to be involved, not opinions on whether his idea was sound. If he wanted to make a movie, he should have been allowed to do so without the rants from others.
What set him off was someone volunteering to help but saying he (the volunteer) wasn't as good as the guys involved in the Evol project.
his next words were "ok...LOL...evol this evol that....were going outside the community for this...
this was not a evol thread...but you all turned it into one..."
He wasn't getting ranted at: he went off on a hissy fit at one of the only people who offered their aid in that thread.
All this can be seen in the link i posted a little further up the page.
Originally by: Tarn Star
2. Help Channel incidents. From what I know Blackhole Bob was a regular on the Help Channel providing real assistance to people. How many of you can say you've done that? Unfortunately, I know that I have not, but this character is a part of Eve Uni and help there when I can. Sure, in this instance he maybe should have handled things differently, but then the Help Channel volunteers maybe should have done so as well. Look at what the problem was, the volunteers bagging on new players, and him telling them to quit it. Now if that is not an honorable thing to do, I don't know what is. But, we do not know the specifics of this event either.
I wasn't in the help channel back then (i've started frequenting in on Hippo and my alt recently, although a lot of people flame my alt), and i didn't know anything about this incident. What i can say is that it seems unlikely to me that the volunteers in the help channel (when they speak at all, the answers come from player characters most often) would be acting to the detriment of new players, unless they are a different staff since I joined.
Originally by: Tarn Star
I believe the Eve Radio ISK selling thing was settled, even though it may have left a sour taste in the mouths of all people involved.
As I don't have any involvement with the radio stations or the vegas thing, I know little about this apart from the myriad threads about it which got locked on this forum. I don't know specifics, but it was blackhole bob who came out looking spiteful and unbalanced to the casual observer.
Originally by: Tarn Star
I for one will be sorry to see him go. I can't believe that some of you have ranted on him again in this thread. For all of his faults, I believe him to be an individual who has his heart in the right place, and we need as many of those type of people in Eve as possible.
Like i said its sad to see people who gave given something back to the community leaving.
Originally by: Tarn Star
Finally, to Blackhole Bob, if you decide to stay ingame and you want to help others, join the Eve University chat channel. Plenty of people asking questions in there.
I do seriously respect the guys of E-UNI for eschewing a normal corporation for helping new players.
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Talori'i
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Posted - 2006.05.26 16:42:00 -
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Blackhole Bob was very helpful in the help channel. If there was a top 10 of people who give out advice in the help channel, and help new players understand things, he would have probably been in the top 5 I think.
A couple days ago, a guy came into the help channel claiming to be him and was angry about being banned. I sort of wish I sent him a message and told him cool it, go take a 24 hour to 1 week break, and then come back and ask for explanation. Maybe send Kieron a message about it. His IGB help site was pretty neat and had up to date information. One player wanted the patch notes for the latest patch for in game format, Blackhole Bob was cool enough to put it up on his site in under an hour.
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jamesw
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sevarus James
here is the www.evegathering.com page:
"Power to the little gamer....."
and that's it. Something went ka-boom.
you should have seen what that site said 24h before it said what it says now.... lets just say that there were one or two profanities thrown in CCP's direction.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:25:00 -
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Thread cleaned up. This kind of topic belongs here in the OOPE forum where you are welcome to say goodbye, or ask people to stay, or be happy they're leaving. Though that last one isn't very nice and should be avoided.
Discussions regarding EVE is not permitted in here though.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:38:00 -
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And back we go, EVE related discussions are allowed again, as long as it's on topic and not against any rules.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 26/05/2006 17:40:27
I wonder why he left. Oh wait, I already posted about that 
*snip*
Yes you were, and as a reminder to all, discussing moderation is not allowed - Wrangler
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Talori'i
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nightly
He is being drawn into a black hole....
I wonder if he will make it out of the black hole this time.
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.26 18:46:00 -
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Our TEAM at evegathering.com has written a formal reply and post about this and will be posted at evegathering.com very soon (before the weekend is here) before all our accounts expire on June 1st or are banned.
This will emcompass about 6 players on our team.
Our side of the story is going to be posted WITHOUT Moderation. We will tell about eve-radio, our dealing with kierons and Macayle's top staff for years, and how we got here today and why this is happening.
Be warned, we are going to post a very professional response. I can asure you though many will not like what they read. We documented there actions for a longtime now (just as they did us with there crimanl logs of so called violations of the rules) to show you why alot of eve's issues stem from this area.
Please note for all posterity...
Acix Reborn and EvE-NN.com network news is NOT part of EvEgathering.com. I only supported Acix. So dont crap on his show CCP and not ignore his weeks of emails any longer. The poor guy only wants to have a good eve show.
don't touch this thread ISD or any MOD as it violates NO rules. I have made no post or disrupted the forums. I have not been a troll and raged your forums into the ground with "I am leaveing".
heres part of a EMAIL I SENT ...(not mods or CCP staff)..just yesterday...to a CCP representitive (kieron)
even after all this...
Quote:
I have the eve in game guide stored. Once again, I will send it to anyone at CCP who thinks it is valuable for posting for players to use. It's about 28 HTML text pages. They need a good home. This whole situation has me saddened to the point I see no reason to be here any longer.
Blackhole Bob
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 26/05/2006 17:40:27
I wonder why he left. Oh wait, I already posted about that
*snip*
Yes you were, and as a reminder to all, discussing moderation is not allowed - Wrangler
At least I got a snip this time...Better than the mysterious, hmm where did my post go? I didn't do anything wrong...
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 26/05/2006 19:05:35
Tarn:
I support your cause fully..
our guide is stored and safe...If action is taken this time (and not to ban more players like Istvaan, Winterblink and others including myself with RHETORICAL OPPRESIVE RULES) we will continue our work including the evegathering 2007, which is so far into development, we are going to lose alot of real life money now...
We have a MAJOR SPONSOR and two other fairly good sponsors and we were building the NEW 8 MAN EVE COMBAT OCTAGONS (Two) already. Procore Productions LLC is a multi-million dollar company out side of eve and we called in alot of resources for 2007 gathering already. We intended to keep the Octagons to use in Las Vegas to promote eve in a major casino operation and hook up we have. We have them talked into a REAL LIVE EVE STORE IN A MAJOR CASINO DEIDCATED TO EVE ONLY. This is where we were taking this whole project..to a level even CCP would love and the fans to...
The first ever real eve combat areana's public and in a eve store. In the entertainment capitol of the world to test market it all. Not even Acix reborn knew this stuff as until we had the modal and business plan done we could not share this info even with CCP until we were very sure of a few key things first.
If we leave on the 1st we will make sure the guide gets into someones hands to make sure somehow our efforts did not go in vain...and to make sure most of all the PILOTS of eve get this much needed help and information
Blackhole Bob
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
At least I got a snip this time...Better than the mysterious, hmm where did my post go? I didn't do anything wrong...
No one did anything wrong, it was removed because it wasn't allowed in the OOPE forum, but since it was posted before the move you didn't break any rules, but the post wasn't allowed and had to go. Since it was moved back it is allowed again, unfortunately I already deleted it. Sorry about that, was mainly a case of miscommunication. As long as it's not trolling, flaming or breaking any rules, it can be reposted if you wish.
Either way, whats done is done, so lets move on. 
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:08:00 -
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What?
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Tarn Star
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:49:00 -
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Bob,
If you can still check your Eve Mail, please do so.
Tarn
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:26:00 -
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Quote:
[...]*snip* - Wranglipoo
Ummm hmmm.
*scratches head*
I think I wanted to write something.
But that moving and snipping made me all dizzy.
*wanders off, looking puzzled*
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:40:00 -
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As with any other incident involving a player, CCP will not discuss any part of the situation with a third party out of respect for that player. Please keep in mind that there is another side to the issue that is not being made public, nor will it be. I would hope that the same respect would be given back to CCP.
Whatever transpires in the future will not change our gratitude to Blackhole Bob for his assistance with the community and his efforts with the EVE Gathering.
kieron
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CodeR70
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
As with any other incident involving a player, CCP will not discuss any part of the situation with a third party out of respect for that player. Please keep in mind that there is another side to the issue that is not being made public, nor will it be. I would hope that the same respect would be given back to CCP.
Whatever transpires in the future will not change our gratitude to Blackhole Bob for his assistance with the community and his efforts with the EVE Gathering.
Although I see your point, that doesnt mean you be right (or wrong for that matter). So I'm wondering why this post? You wont discuss it with a third party but you are off already talking about respect and such as if others will not have it by what has to come! Dont get me wrong, I understand that any situation where it's community agains company and back that it's always a tricky one. But I (we) cant see if not talking with a third party is out of respect or other motivation, that is just because it's not public. Which is fine by me again but then again, why this post?
Kind regards,
CodeR70
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:06:00 -
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I have restored the in game IGB guide due to hundreds of emails...
Blackhole Bob
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Stev Tomias
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:12:00 -
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*snip* - Wrangler
But then thats entirely up to them, After all it is their game.
As for the other thing, if you did not clear it with them first, well its your own fault for them comeing down on you like a ton of bricks. Seriously some people are VERY sensitve to things like this, Especialy with some of the reputations organisations like that have.
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So'Kar
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:18:00 -
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Too much censoring here. I probably wouldn't care much at all, if it was posted here as it was without all "you are not allowed to discuss", but now I have to find out 
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Malkia
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:42:00 -
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I love the guide Blackhole Bob. Your efforts are outstanding. If the guide ever needs a new home I got a secure place for it for everyone in eve.
~Mal
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Not even Acix reborn knew this stuff as until we had the modal and business plan done we could not share this info even with CCP until we were very sure of a few key things first.
Actually you could... in a "there is a chance that we might be able to do <insert description>" way.
It seems like we won't be told the whole story from either side, but I have a feeling that the part I quoted is where the problem started.
You've done a lot of good stuff to the community, and I don't doubt that you had all the best intentions. Too bad it had to come to this...
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Dead Emperor
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:07:00 -
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Nice guides, would have been a shame to lose them.
Though I'm intrigued as to exactly what 'RHETORICAL OPPRESIVE RULES' are and quite suprised you run a multi-million dollar company that, from a quick search, is only mentioned on the evegathering site.
Good luck in the future, I look forward to reading your very professional response.
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:09:00 -
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this has nothing to do with this issue...
CCP and kieron were nothing short of top nothc at all times concerning eve gathering 2006
before we announce all the logistics and approach CCP about licensing, we have to make sure our resources are in place. Its a matter of Risk assesment, gap analysis, project planning and blah blah....as well as getting commitments done before we dump major resources and time in all this....
Just like evegathering 2006
we had to have a venue to commit...
we had to insure proper media facilites were available
we had to be sure we could roll out safe secure online ticket sales
we had to ensure our back office could handle the loads from all angles
we had to make sure we had several thousand dollars to set it all up as we waited for tickets sales to come...
once again... CCP's support of evegathering is not the issue here what so ever.
Blackhole Bob
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 26/05/2006 22:19:18
Originally by: Dead Emperor
Nice guides, would have been a shame to lose them.
Though I'm intrigued as to exactly what 'RHETORICAL OPPRESIVE RULES' are and quite suprised you run a multi-million dollar company that, from a quick search, is only mentioned on the evegathering site.
Good luck in the future, I look forward to reading your very professional response.
ok ok...
many saw our work at evegathering vegas, and what procore does, as we designed all audio-visual and lighting and computerization of said gear at the venue we used for evegathering. We also installed it and maintained it for the first year for that venue alone. We have more then one client though. LOL
Our books cleared 1.2 (Approx) million in 2005 ..we are on track to breach 2 million in generated revenue in 2006
I am not here to explain our company though...but I will be brief...
We build and design professional computerized audio visual and lighting systems for high end clubs and entertainment establishments. Our customer's are pure referalls. We need no web presence what so ever. We are home to 5 fulltime employees and about 20 part time pooled employees that come and go based on size of jobs at hand.
we are no huge company thats some large operation and nasdaq listed....but we do turn good numbers for what we do...
sorry to make it bigger then maybe it is...I will remove those comments as they really have no bearing on this at all...
we are not millionaires...just our annual revenue is growing. We try our best to keep our people happy and spread the wealth.
Blackhole Bob
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Flash Landsraad
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:21:00 -
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I'm confused - what has happened? Or is the point that we're not allowed to know what's happenned?
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Rutoo
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:28:00 -
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I suppose it's sad to see you go but i also have a question that no one has seemed to ask.
Can i have your Stuff?
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Moss Pharmacy
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Flash Landsraad
I'm confused - what has happened? Or is the point that we're not allowed to know what's happenned?
yeah i think the point is that somewhere CCP and BhB crossed paths quite seriously to such an extent that it's not something that should be idley discussed.
BhB said that an announcement will be mde on eve-gathering soon, or at least that's how i understood it to be.
I hope this all gets worked out.
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:35:00 -
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Moving this thread over to Out of Pod Experience, as it has moved off-topic does not relate directly to EVE any longer.
kieron
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