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Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:17:00 -
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Question to Steam users. I just saw on Steam that you can play Eve from there. When you log from Steam, do you log to the same general server, or there are private servers like in Rust, for example? And can Eve be played on private servers at all? |

Dominus Tempus
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:20:00 -
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It's Tranquility. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:22:00 -
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Ty. Do you know if it is possible to play it on a private server? |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:55:00 -
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Why would you even want to play on a private server? With EVE of all things? EDIT: Answer is no. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:59:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Ty. Do you know if it is possible to play it on a private server? No! Some years back there was an attempt, but it was quickly squashed.. as it should be.
As for steam EVE, best not to. Has too many account limitations. I think one was not being able to transfer characters, unless that's changed...
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Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:01:00 -
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Thanks for the answer. Well, the reason is as all the other games, to choose what you play and with whom you play. I only like economy part of eve, so private server could have been a solution. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:02:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Ty. Do you know if it is possible to play it on a private server? No! Some years back there was an attempt, but it was quickly squashed.. as it should be. As for steam EVE, best not to. Has too many account limitations. I think one was not being able to transfer characters, unless that's changed...
Thanks. Do not agree with the part about 'as it should be' though, but anyway. |

Jumpshot244
Control-Space DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:05:00 -
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But the economy is player driven. If you played on a private server, you'd have no economy. |

Jamagh
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:10:00 -
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EVE on a private server would be horrible. You would have people that were friends with the GM/Admin getting all sorts of stuff for free. like free SP, or free T2 BPOs. I can only imagine what else would be wrong. horrible bugs that would plague the game... I am glad there is not private servers. "Please stop reopening silly rumor threads."-á CCP Navigator. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:12:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Thanks. Do not agree with the part about 'as it should be' though, but anyway. No, it's bad business. CCP isn't some huge AAA developer that can just absorb the revenue loss, just a little loss would hurt development enough to be noticed. Go take that player server attitude to WoW player servers -------------------> (or player servers for dead games, those are ok imo - apart from their often toxic communities) |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:15:00 -
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Private server doesn't mean it is a solo server. I can play with friends or with people who want the same stuff from the game as myself. Besides those 2 reasons I mentioned, I would also like to have 'a fresh start'. Meaning clean world with just BP and rookie ships. Atm I am always having a feeling about eve, like i joined when the party is already over. Even in the economy part anywhere you go, everything is already claimed, divided, owned by someone. Market is overflooded. Guess I have just missed my time in this game. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:19:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Thanks. Do not agree with the part about 'as it should be' though, but anyway. No, it's bad business. CCP isn't some huge AAA developer that can just absorb the revenue loss, just a little loss would hurt development enough to be noticed. Go take that player server attitude to WoW player servers -------------------> (or player servers for dead games, those are ok imo - apart from their often toxic communities)
I never played WOW, but people here mention it so often that I may try one day. RE loss, I do not see any losses to the games that offer that option. On the other hand, all those who cancel their accounts atm may be interested to continue subscriptions with that option. But I am not much on the technical stuff, so maybe it is a problem with that in eve. Anyway, sorry to hear it is not available here. |

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:20:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Guess I have just missed my time in this game. Not really, it's just harder for newer players to compete. The industry changes are helping to address that and put all players on a more equal footing.
Oh god. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:22:00 -
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Jamagh wrote:EVE on a private server would be horrible. You would have people that were friends with the GM/Admin getting all sorts of stuff for free. like free SP, or free T2 BPOs. I can only imagine what else would be wrong. horrible bugs that would plague the game... I am glad there is not private servers. That is not true. I am playing other games like that and yes some servers are bad, but no one forces anyone to play there. Some servers are very decent, besides you can always get your own server. Private servers also do not mean that there are no official servers. They exist and majority of people still play there. Private is just an option for the people who cannot find their place in the official version or want to try or implements some different stuff. |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:23:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Private server doesn't mean it is a solo server. I can play with friends or with people who want the same stuff from the game as myself. Besides those 2 reasons I mentioned, I would also like to have 'a fresh start'. Meaning clean world with just BP and rookie ships. Atm I am always having a feeling about eve, like i joined when the party is already over. Even in the economy part anywhere you go, everything is already claimed, divided, owned by someone. Market is overflooded. Guess I have just missed my time in this game.
The main reason we don't want to an EVE private server is that anyone close to the GM/admin can have full sway on the game. Like say I have a private server and I got RL ganked by my wife because she got ganked in her Mackinaw for afk mining and demanded I give her some QA shield extenders. If I gave her the said modules it won't be fair for the other players.
Also if you want something in eve and someone is already sitting on it you better get off your station undock and shoot them to get it. That's how I get my LP in FW. Evict the other guy from the plex. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:24:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Guess I have just missed my time in this game. Not really, it's just harder for newer players to compete. The industry changes are helping to address that and put all players on a more equal footing. Well, yes I agree to some extent and I know what you mean. But it is just a general feeling, do not really know how to explain that. When you come to play game that is still is Beta for example, the whole world is still new and everyone is on the same level. Something like that, not sure if I can make myself clear on this, it is just a general 'feel' in the game |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:25:00 -
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Grab/join some peeps and go claim a wormhole (wormhole space). Sounds more like what you are looking for. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:28:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Private server doesn't mean it is a solo server. I can play with friends or with people who want the same stuff from the game as myself. Besides those 2 reasons I mentioned, I would also like to have 'a fresh start'. Meaning clean world with just BP and rookie ships. Atm I am always having a feeling about eve, like i joined when the party is already over. Even in the economy part anywhere you go, everything is already claimed, divided, owned by someone. Market is overflooded. Guess I have just missed my time in this game. The main reason we don't want to an EVE private server is that anyone close to the GM/admin can have full sway on the game. Like say I have a private server and I got RL ganked by my wife because she got ganked in her Mackinaw for afk mining and demanded I give her some QA shield extenders. If I gave her the said modules it won't be fair for the other players. Also if you want something in eve and someone is already sitting on it you better get off your station undock and shoot them to get it. That's how I get my LP in FW. Evict the other guy from the plex. I guess i have already answered that in my previous post, but why do you always assume it would be bad? I personally would never give anyone any advantages including myself if I owned a private one. Just because the game loses all interest with cheating. Well, for me at least. And there are many people who feel the same way. Those who want most advantages to themselves are usually kids 13-15 years old. At least it is what i see in the other games i am playing.
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:30:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Guess I have just missed my time in this game. Not really, it's just harder for newer players to compete. The industry changes are helping to address that and put all players on a more equal footing. Well, yes I agree to some extent and I know what you mean. But it is just a general feeling, do not really know how to explain that. When you come to play game that is still is Beta for example, the whole world is still new and everyone is on the same level. Something like that, not sure if I can make myself clear on this, it is just a general 'feel' in the game So in other words you don't want to exert effort to compete with other players who made the effort to be better in the same game as you are? |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:31:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Grab/join some peeps and go claim a wormhole (wormhole space). Sounds more like what you are looking for.
As for being on the same level, this isn't a level progression game. Some months of training and you can be going head to head in the same ships with a 10yr vet pretty much equally matched... at least in needed SP for the ship. Being around longer just means you can fly a larger variety of ships mostly. You miss my point it seems. I do not like pvp aspects of the game. Claiming wh means you have to defend it afterwards. Besides I always feel like i am locked up when in a wh. Well, I do not really want to argue about those private options. I do realize it is just for maybe a limited number of players. But still, it would offer a good opportunity to those who are quitting a game now. Lol, just saying:-) |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:33:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Guess I have just missed my time in this game. Not really, it's just harder for newer players to compete. The industry changes are helping to address that and put all players on a more equal footing. Well, yes I agree to some extent and I know what you mean. But it is just a general feeling, do not really know how to explain that. When you come to play game that is still is Beta for example, the whole world is still new and everyone is on the same level. Something like that, not sure if I can make myself clear on this, it is just a general 'feel' in the game So in other words you don't want to exert effort to compete with other players who made the effort to be better in the same game as you are? When did I say that? I said that i like to start games at the same level with other players, not come into the game when everyone has already played for 5 years, have numerous skills, etc. But most of all it is the market, everything you can think of had already been invented and mass produced. Just not very interesting to play to be honest. |

Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:34:00 -
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OK you don't _get_ EVE do you?
A private server of EVE would be terrible as the stories that EVE is about wouldn't exist. The economy wouldn't existence (the bit you like - building stuff).
Your other arguments just don't stand up to scrutiny because you don't actually know what makes EVE tick. |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:36:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Guess I have just missed my time in this game. Not really, it's just harder for newer players to compete. The industry changes are helping to address that and put all players on a more equal footing. Well, yes I agree to some extent and I know what you mean. But it is just a general feeling, do not really know how to explain that. When you come to play game that is still is Beta for example, the whole world is still new and everyone is on the same level. Something like that, not sure if I can make myself clear on this, it is just a general 'feel' in the game So in other words you don't want to exert effort to compete with other players who made the effort to be better in the same game as you are? When did I say that? I said that i like to start games at the same level with other players, not come into the game when everyone has already played for 5 years, have numerous skills, etc. But most of all it is the market, everything you can think of had already been invented and mass produced. Just not very interesting to play to be honest. That's like real life you know. The moment you were born somebody already solved this and that. It's not like everyone has to reinvent the wheel and be at the stone age the moment you were born.
Remember what CCP said "EVE is real". |

Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:37:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Guess I have just missed my time in this game. Not really, it's just harder for newer players to compete. The industry changes are helping to address that and put all players on a more equal footing. Well, yes I agree to some extent and I know what you mean. But it is just a general feeling, do not really know how to explain that. When you come to play game that is still is Beta for example, the whole world is still new and everyone is on the same level. Something like that, not sure if I can make myself clear on this, it is just a general 'feel' in the game So in other words you don't want to exert effort to compete with other players who made the effort to be better in the same game as you are? When did I say that? I said that i like to start games at the same level with other players, not come into the game when everyone has already played for 5 years, have numerous skills, etc. But most of all it is the market, everything you can think of had already been invented and mass produced. Just not very interesting to play to be honest.
Competition is the fun part. What you want is a single player game you can restart any time you want.
X3 is -> way
or you can wait till the vapourware comes out known as Star Citizen |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:38:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote: I guess i have already answered that in my previous post, but why do you always assume it would be bad? I personally would never give anyone any advantages including myself if I owned a private one. Just because the game loses all interest with cheating. Well, for me at least. And there are many people who feel the same way. Those who want most advantages to themselves are usually kids 13-15 years old. At least it is what i see in the other games i am playing.
Well it's a moot subject anyway. Someone tried and they were shut down. CCP won't allow it and as basically an indie dev company (a large one anyway) they shouldn't allow it, and they don't. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:38:00 -
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Themanfromdalmontee wrote:OK you don't _get_ EVE do you?
A private server of EVE would be terrible as the stories that EVE is about wouldn't exist. The economy wouldn't existence (the bit you like - building stuff).
Your other arguments just don't stand up to scrutiny because you don't actually know what makes EVE tick. Well eve is really the same as every other game around. And i am not saying that everyone have to move en masse to a private server. The official server will continue as it is with little change I guess, so do not know how it concerns the story you mentioned. And yes, economy would exist as long as there are at least several players there. |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:41:00 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Themanfromdalmontee wrote:OK you don't _get_ EVE do you?
A private server of EVE would be terrible as the stories that EVE is about wouldn't exist. The economy wouldn't existence (the bit you like - building stuff).
Your other arguments just don't stand up to scrutiny because you don't actually know what makes EVE tick. Well eve is really the same as every other game around. And i am not saying that everyone have to move en masse to a private server. The official server will continue as it is with little change I guess, so do not know how it concerns the story you mentioned. And yes, economy would exist as long as there are at least several players there. So I guess dying in WoW means you permanently lose some of your equipment and the remaining ones can be looted by other players for theirs to keep forever until it gets destroyed? Show me another MMO that is more that 10 years old that actually functions like EVE? |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:41:00 -
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Competition is the fun part. What you want is a single player game you can restart any time you want.
X3 is -> way
or you can wait till the vapourware comes out known as Star Citizen[/quote] Market is always a competition, it doesn't exist otherwise. Haven't heard about Star Citizen, is it a new game?
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Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:45:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote: I guess i have already answered that in my previous post, but why do you always assume it would be bad? I personally would never give anyone any advantages including myself if I owned a private one. Just because the game loses all interest with cheating. Well, for me at least. And there are many people who feel the same way. Those who want most advantages to themselves are usually kids 13-15 years old. At least it is what i see in the other games i am playing.
Well it's a moot subject anyway. Someone tried and they were shut down. CCP won't allow it and as basically an indie dev company (a large one anyway) they shouldn't allow it, and they don't. Not sure I understand that part. I mean those private servers are not illegal, they are all approved by the company creators. And I am playing Rust now, which i believe is a really small company if I am not mistaken. But as I said, I do not want to argue if it is bad or good. It may be good for some people, but anyway if CCP will ever consider this I would get a private server if not then not. What is there to say. |

Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:45:00 -
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Bah I got caught by a troll well done!
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