We initially wanted to fill the Caldari/Minmatar faction gap, but the existing factions didn't really support that and adding story and assets for an entirely new faction wasn't practical.

I'm just going to throw this out there for discussion... Barghest loses 1 launcher in exchange for a +50% missile damage bonus (9 effective launchers vs. 8.75) and gains another low slot, so 7H-6M-7L.

BARGHEST
Caldari Battleship Bonus per level: 10% bonus to missile damage
Gallente Battleship Bonus per level: 10% bonus to warp scrambler and warp disruptor range
Role Bonus: 200% bonus to missile velocity (50% penalty to missile flight time)

Slot layout: 7H(-1), 6M, 7L(+1); 0 turrets, 6(-1) launchers
Fittings: 11600 PWG, 700 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 11200 / 8750 / 8100
Capacitor (amount / cap/sec) : 6100 / 5.28
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 148 / .098 / 98467000 / 13.38s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 76km / 110 / 7
Sensor strength: 29
Signature radius: 370

Yeah, but it's black.

Stop whining about that Gallerte skills, god damit!

We talked about specialized bays and other unique purposes, but ultimately decided that, for now, it was important to make sure that pilots from races other than Gallente weren't compelled to cross train for an Iteron 5...

Special purpose bays - This will be for Hoarder, Iteron Mark II, III, and IV. We wanted to do this originally, but held back because of concerns about racial inequality. Based on feedback I'm now hoping you guys will be fine with this inequality, as long as it isn't so favored towards Gallente that no one would ever train another race for hauling.

To be fair.. the Gal are a very open and liberal people.. It makes sense for them to have presence in all areas.. for moreso than a race of Accountants, Heavens Gate Cultists, and extras from Mad Max..

Don't get me wrong, I wanted Caldari + Minm too.. But I see the lore reason for this, and for most of the others.. and can understand why the Gal would be more common an influence with all these factions.


The sad one is SOE.. Gal.. okay.. Amarr? Well the Amarr and SOE and negative to eachother.. made no sense..

Well the Lore says they were Galente, and defected to the Caldari during the Gal-Cal war..
The Cal provided them with the best tech..

Actually really makes sense with the bonuses too.. The drone tech was really developed during the Gal/Cal war, so that wouldn't really benefit them.. but for all we know the Gal already had good Scram tech, so having it as the bonus works well.

They are Intaki, that means defected or not, they still have ties to the Federation.. at least historically.

It really does make a lot more sense than trying to shoehorn in a connection to the Minmatar that doesn't exist in lore, or any Amarr for no good reason.

Developer: Boundless Creation

Boundless Creation's ships are based on the Brutor Tribe's philosophy of warfare: simply fit as much firepower onto your ship as possible. Defense systems and electronics arrays therefore take a back seat to sheer annihilative potential.

The two reasons for it being Cal-Gal are that when they first showed up after defecting they brought a massive amount of hardware to reverse engineer, and two, ship practice is still Gallente; small crews, robots clean the hallways instead of interns, and all that jazz.

It's not like Minmatar like Caldari either.

Sansha is Am/Cal because Sansha is Caldari and the first slave crews had to came from somewhere they wouldn't be missed.

CCP Rise, since the discussion in this thread has been very reasonable - could you please address the valid concern raised with respect to the Barghest?

1. While the warp disruption range bonus is beneficial on the Garmur and Orthrus, it's not necessarily well-suited for the Barghest. We do realize that traditionally these bonuses extend throughout a particular Pirate faction line, although there is precedent for some variation (ie: new Rattlesnake, Nestor). Might it be possible to substitute the warp disruption range bonus for one of the following: a) -10% reduction in missile launcher reload time, b) +5% increase in missile launcher ammunition capacity or c) +5% explosion velocity.

2. If it is not possible to change the warp disruption range bonus, might we instead see a slight increase to missile damage on the Barghest from the current 5% (8.75 effective launchers) to 7.5% (9.625 effective launchers)?

If you are no longer involved with ship rebalancing, could you please ask CCP Fozzie to visit this thread to respond to some of these inquiries? Thanks.

Thanks. I guess most of the pro-Minmatar players must have glossed over it since I didn't hear anything (which is strange, because I thought for sure they would've perked up at the prospect of having an additional Minmatar racial bonus).

What's a CCP Rise