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Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 19:31:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Nice to see you decided to listen to me, and oh , I dunno, about 10,000 others, and do something wise. Now, if you REALLY get your act together, you will deploy the 1st iteration on Sisi, and give us not 5 or 6 weeks, but more like 8-10 weeks to sort this out.
You gave us 5-6 weeks for Apochrypha, and that release was a drop in the bucket compared to the far-reaching implications this mess has.
Use your head, give us, and yourselves, the entire summer , to sort out everything, to test every lever, every nuance, where tiny changes will have huge impact. It will also stem the bleeding of subs, and you might actually recognize how much damage this will wreak on the game, and your company.
Its not gonna take 8-10 weeks for you to figure out you're gonna get plowed by null-sec industrialists The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:45:00 -
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Kaius Fero wrote:PS & OT: mynnna, do something with your avatar face, it looks like she got beaten and over abused ...
It is the pained expression we all feel when reading a Dinsdale post The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
551
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:49:00 -
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You haven't actually shown any of these changes are destroying the game though, just wrecking your little fringe industry bubble. The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
551
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Posted - 2014.05.13 20:29:00 -
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Dibble Dabble wrote:You have done nothing to make my friends and I re-consider our decision to cease empire industry. At the last count 15 accounts had been mothballed a few more will go in the coming weeks.
We have one POS remaining to finish off some work and with the delay may add some research jobs but I am not sure any of us can be arsed.
Remember eve is supposed to be fun no matter if you blowing crap up or making ISK from mining, industry and PVE. The changes to Industry in particular the need to have the BPO in the POS makes having a research POS to damn risky. Then you have the need to move BPO's to different system to build so unlock the BPO, undock, pop your BPO is gone. No thanks.
The changes increase the risk for established industry corps based in empire to the point where the risk is too great, the game becomes a job. Why bother? We all have jobs in real life we don't want another.
Not all our accounts have been mothballed some may decided to do some PVE or join a null sec alliance, most have the funds to plex their accounts for a long time. However doing industry in empire, you can shove that where the sun don't shine.
You changes are a mandate for the griefers and bullies of eve to continue their campaign against high sec. No risk griefing for them. You want to fix the game then sodding well fix the game, don't make it even easier for these no risk high reward alts.
It is absolutely impossible for you to lose BPO in highsec if you're willing to put in even the slightest bit of effort. Is this what you're complaining about? That you have to actually do something besides sit in a station and push buttons? The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
551
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Posted - 2014.05.13 20:46:00 -
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Dibble Dabble wrote:Dramaticus wrote:It is absolutely impossible for you to lose BPO in highsec if you're willing to put in even the slightest bit of effort. Is this what you're complaining about? That you have to actually do something besides sit in a station and push buttons? I see rent a troll are in force tonight. We are complaining that the efforts and risks involved to operate a small industry corp will increase significantly and rewards are going to reduce significantly. We currently move billions worth of materials each week to support the industry corps. We lost a few ships on the way but we have adapted our style of play to compensate for the risks. Meanwhile your corps and alt corps will be looking at more targets and whilst we would take precautions moving BPO's as I said we don't want to come home to another job of finding a station and then having to move 10 bil of materials just to run a few jobs. I find you input reflects well on your troll corp. Now please STFU and go troll someone else.
If you're seriously planning on system hopping just to save a few pennies then its probably good that you're getting out of industry.
The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:55:00 -
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Proton Power wrote:Why does everyone feel this entire patch is Goon Based?
While I am not a fan of the Goons what so ever, I don't see how this patch benifits them and only them. I really like some of the new changes, dislike some of the new changes and don't understand many of the changes will shape things in years to come. Overall many of the changes have been needed for a very LONG time.
You can not compare the way industry works today compared to how it will work in a few months time; this is a complete revamp of the system.
The patch benefits those who are adaptable and well-coordinated. The Goons posting in support of these changes are those two things. The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
558
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:18:00 -
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Realtalk
The 'problem' is that the status quo of high-sec enjoying a virtual monopoly on industry is ending and now in return for spending trillions 0.0 industrialists can begin to compete with high-sec. Naturally, this is upsetting the highsec fat cats who've grown complacent, thinking just sitting in a station and clicking a bunch to make unlimited isk was some birthright. Now there is some semblance of risk vs reward and those in highsec who choose to remain cowering in their station will be left the table scraps of those industrialists(both 0.0 and highsec) that are willing to gamble a bit more. The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |
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