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SirMolle	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:23:00 - [1] Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:25:00 - [2] Originally by: SirMolle Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all. ffs another bob thread. wtf you on about? place your e-peen somewhere else! "We brake for nobody"
EL TITAN	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:25:00 - [3] good to see we got more space, Dians arse was getting too big for lil ol delve ;x _________________________________________________ <3 hi
Lorth	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:25:00 - [4] Ironically I really did just grab a pag of popcorn and a soda... Good timeing on my part.
skygrazer	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:26:00 - [5] Tho we suffer the trial and tribulations of the forums hoes, the truth will set you free.....but first it will make our agrressors miserable
Halkin	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:27:00 - [6] on topic: well done, nice region, yadda off topic: 16th?
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:27:00 - [7] Good luck, and may the fo.. ehh.. may your enemies have the courage of a thousand idiots! BDCI Recruitment Officer
Lexor SLice	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:27:00 - [8] wub molleposts ____________________________________________
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:27:00 - [9] Wooo
Abriana Overlord	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Originally by: SirMolle Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all. ffs another bob thread. wtf you on about? place your e-peen somewhere else! Suffering ePeen envy I thinks

Svetlanna	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:28:00 - [11] LOLOLOLOL You seriously need to make the difference between reality and your dream world. Seems your own propaganda is now taking you away from the real Eve world. You are a sweat funny guy. Thank you for the laugh
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:29:00 - [12] This goes SO well with the TWD thread Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:29:00 - [13] --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
Admiral Leyton	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:31:00 - [14] Admiral Leyton > /emote scratches head Admiral Leyton > Wheres querious ? Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin
Loftur sterki	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:31:00 - [15] So shall we give Diana all the pos, dread, carrier, bs' loot you dropped, and will dropp in the future? Grumpy old Viking
zoturi	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:32:00 - [16] what region you are talking about?
Galavet	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Loftur sterki So shall we give Diana all the pos, dread, carrier, bs' loot you dropped, and will dropp in the future? If those 2 pos and one dread are going to be your claim to fame for this war then its looking grim for you. This only has to be the 234242556 mention of Dianabolics lost Dread in one evening. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Icomeinpeace	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:36:00 - [18] Stay tuned for more...
Orc A	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:40:00 - [19] Another thread of false promises? Like the one where SA was to be wiped out? BoB look sillier every day. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
shivan	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:40:00 - [20] Edited by: shivan on 28/05/2006 18:41:40 Didn't you lose said dread while trying to defend one of the POS? And if you wish to take out the trash, you can contact either Glaria Kahn, Fokodemon (sp?, sry dude), or myself for a request of postive standings. edit spelling

Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Orc A Another thread of false promises? Like the one where SA was to be wiped out? BoB look sillier every day. Tbh mate, your guna look ****in ridiculus when BoB are sitting in 9cg smoking god knows what. Not that you dont already look incredibly ridiculus as it is. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
XiZ0r	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:42:00 - [22]
Krystian	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:44:00 - [23] We love you to Mr. Molle. <3 __________________________________________________ Ceo Krystian The Blood Moon Horde
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Orc A Another thread of false promises? Like the one where SA was to be wiped out? BoB look sillier every day. I think we will find out in time who holds Querious won't we? Good luck and have fun, we will. Eve Blacklight Style
Hassiana	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:45:00 - [25] onwed last night? my guess is you feel bad and needed a post to build up your stature
Hassiana	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:53:00 - [26] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Hassiana onwed last night? my guess is you feel bad and needed a post to build up your stature So seriously, what has a person who has been in game 4-5 months and is not affilliated with any alliance let alone those involved got to do with this post? What information or interest do you have with BoB or the Coalition against us or Querious that leads you to post? i have an interest because: 1) i love this game and all it involves 2) its a public forum, yes public 3) read number 2
Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:53:00 - [27] Originally by: Lorth Not half as silly as you looked before the war when you were bragging about how uber stain was, and how BOB were going to die. Only when push came to shove, once BOB showed up, by your own admission you ran hid in empire. Molle will have to claim to be taking jove space, to come close to your level. Ouch.
Nira Li	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:54:00 - [28] Originally by: Orc A Quote: Not half as silly as you looked before the war when you were bragging about how uber stain was, and how BOB were going to die. Only when push came to shove, once BOB showed up, by your own admission you ran hid in empire. sad that even bob's enemies fall to it's propoganda machine. You weren't there, so stfu plz. I didnt know Delve was Empire. someone is spending way to much time with xirt You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
BlackRain	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:54:00 - [29] Originally by: Orc A sad that even bob's enemies fall to it's propoganda machine. You weren't there, so stfu plz. I didnt know Delve was Empire. Are you seriously, with a straight face, claiming that SA did a proper alliance wide assault to Delve? ------------------- -
SirMolle	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Lorth Originally by: Orc A Another thread of false promises? Like the one where SA was to be wiped out? BoB look sillier every day. Not half as silly as you looked before the war when you were bragging about how uber stain was, and how BOB were going to die. Only when push came to shove, once BOB showed up, by your own admission you ran hid in empire. Molle will have to claim to be taking jove space, to come close to your level. Just waiting for CCP to open it first.

BadManEdmundo	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:55:00 - [31] Originally by: Orc A sad that even bob's enemies fall to it's propoganda machine. It's not, its called having a clue. Recite that back and you can have a little gold star.
Masta Killa	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:56:00 - [32] The food chain: (top) BURN EDEN -> Every alliance ingame -> State War Academy (bottom) You know your places, you may continue bickering at your leisure. --------------------------------------
Lorth	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:56:00 - [33] Originally by: Orc A Quote: Not half as silly as you looked before the war when you were bragging about how uber stain was, and how BOB were going to die. Only when push came to shove, once BOB showed up, by your own admission you ran hid in empire. sad that even bob's enemies fall to it's propoganda machine. You weren't there, so stfu plz. I didnt know Delve was Empire. Should we find the quote were you, and other stain directors said specifically exactly that. Stain has NPC stations, we'll just chill in empire. I'm not falling for BOB's propoganda, because it came directly from Stain them selves.
jin jiny	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:58:00 - [34] First take out the trash than claim the region, till than its just pathetic post.
GODofHELL	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:58:00 - [35] The GOD is here and the GOD will take out all the trash when you wish to take a beer...MUHAHAHAHAHA _______________________ I AM THE GREATEST!! I AM THE BIGGEST !!! I AM THE BEST OF THE BEST!!!
Lorth	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:01:00 - [36] I'm also wondering whats going on with the last of FIX. It must be kinnda cool to see this all happening right at there door step.
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:01:00 - [37] Originally by: jin jiny First take out the trash than claim the region, till than its just pathetic post. Not as pathetic as posting with an alt
Audrea	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:03:00 - [38] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii tbh rest of you that dont believe this will happen wait and see. it is ours and we shall prove it good to hear! the higher the pride the greater the fall, or something like that my previous post here disappeared somehow.. or wasnt posted.. anyway good luck to you. u will find out that 'challening' would be an understatement ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
Naurhir	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:04:00 - [39] Jin looks pretty hot. Too bad I tend to value brains above beauty. /sigh
Ordep	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:04:00 - [40] Edited by: Ordep on 28/05/2006 19:06:09 Originally by: Orc A 10 year Each time you post, you just comfirm what ppl say about you. Made in Portugal

Audrea	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:11:00 - [41] Originally by: Naurhir Jin looks pretty hot. Too bad I tend to value brains above beauty. /sigh and I value both equally ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
Puncher	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:15:00 - [42] Fantastic attempt to spin damage control, but it is no secret who's POSs have died in 9CG this weekend, nor who holds sov currently... So why not hold off on an asinine post like this until you've actually done something? -- My commentary is my own; it does not reflect the views of FA or BIG--
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:15:00 - [43] Originally by: Hassiana Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Hassiana onwed last night? my guess is you feel bad and needed a post to build up your stature So seriously, what has a person who has been in game 4-5 months and is not affilliated with any alliance let alone those involved got to do with this post? What information or interest do you have with BoB or the Coalition against us or Querious that leads you to post? i have an interest because: 1) i love this game and all it involves 2) its a public forum, yes public 3) read number 2 Good so long as we are clear that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and are posting for the sake of it. Eve Blacklight Style
Kunming	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:17:00 - [44] Marvelous, cant wait to see the events in the next weeks.
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:24:00 - [45] My holiday in the north is gonna be postponed me thinks
whisk	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:39:00 - [46] Originally by: Orc A Quote: Not half as silly as you looked before the war when you were bragging about how uber stain was, and how BOB were going to die. Only when push came to shove, once BOB showed up, by your own admission you ran hid in empire. sad that even bob's enemies fall to it's propoganda machine. You weren't there, so stfu plz. I didnt know Delve was Empire. I didn't know agil was in delve.
maria stallion	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:42:00 - [47] I wonder who will hold out longer bob as one alliance or the other six alliance we are working together to try and take 1 system :) OR do you really think smash alliance will be able to hold it on there own when you members get back to there own space.
Shirei	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:44:00 - [48] Edited by: Shirei on 28/05/2006 19:43:58 Isn't this post a little premature taking into account that BoB holds sovereignty over a grand total of zero station systems in Querious? But aw well, anything for a little flame-war I guess.
Kyguard	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:45:00 - [49] I think BoB will get it done, but if you don't.. oh man.. === God is on the side with the best artillery.
Johnny Johnny	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:45:00 - [50] Originally by: Puncher Fantastic attempt to spin damage control, but it is no secret who's POSs have died in 9CG this weekend, nor who holds sov currently... So why not hold off on an asinine post like this until you've actually done something? /me pokes Molle See, I told you there were still some FA hiding in Empire ! ------------- Johnny Johnny ------------- Some people are like a Slinky.....not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:46:00 - [51] bawk? Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:59:00 - [52] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken bawk? I think so! My little chicken friend . Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Hassiana	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:00:00 - [53] Originally by: Kyguard I think BoB will get it done, but if you don't.. oh man.. word, i think they have their panties twisted up by the fact they cant conrol whats on their door step. i will watch this one closely. obviously from the tone of my posts i hope they lose
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:00:00 - [54] Originally by: Loftur sterki So shall we give Diana all the pos, dread, carrier, bs' loot you dropped, and will dropp in the future? Thats like saying "Yeah, he beat the crap outta me but did you see what my face did to his fists!!?"
shivan	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq so who owns the stations? AFAIK VOX has one Smash has another and the 3rd is in a state of contestion atm
Nafri	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:14:00 - [56] Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq so who owns the stations? Smash Alliance/Vox/Fix like last week Summertime - Campingtime!
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:22:00 - [57] Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq so who owns the stations? SMASH alliance took sovereignty of 9CG today, as of this time they have been unable to take the station due to constant raids and attacks by our forces. I believe h74 and 3bk are held by CODA forces, both sovereignty and the stations. Local is at 302. We're at our usual ratio, our pos is out of reinforced in a few hours. The game, as they say, is on.
UnIQu3	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:35:00 - [58] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq so who owns the stations? SMASH alliance took sovereignty of 9CG today, as of this time they have been unable to take the station due to constant raids and attacks by our forces. I believe h74 and 3bk are held by CODA forces, both sovereignty and the stations. Local is at 302. We're at our usual ratio, our pos is out of reinforced in a few hours. The game, as they say, is on. Coda forces ? nice spin! anyhow who are those? And its the smash and vox holding the stations, just so ya know :) And about all the forces ya have, think some of them got podded back to delve, including a moros capital ship, only sum frigs that were lost in that engagement. BOB Dread Loss Regards UnIQu3 PS. Dont come crying back and say that the dread loss is only like a bs loss!
Aethana	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:35:00 - [59] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq so who owns the stations? SMASH alliance took sovereignty of 9CG today, as of this time they have been unable to take the station due to constant raids and attacks by our forces. I believe h74 and 3bk are held by CODA forces, both sovereignty and the stations. Local is at 302. We're at our usual ratio, our pos is out of reinforced in a few hours. The game, as they say, is on. As long as the name of the game is fun..
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:36:00 - [60] Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 28/05/2006 20:37:16 yep its line in sand time also how long do you think posting about a dread kill will keep the spirit of your coalition forces up. FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA

Chode Rizoum	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:37:00 - [61] all this power talking is making me hawt !
Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:40:00 - [62] 1 moros, nuthin to brag about, we lost atleast 3 today thanks to nberlag and RA. Carry on until you got some real numbers Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Wizie	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:40:00 - [63] Originally by: Chode Rizoum all this power talking is making me hawt ! come sex me up on Vent.. And read my comment too. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
Wizie	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:41:00 - [64] Originally by: Ace Frehley 1 moros, nuthin to brag about, we lost atleast 3 today thanks to nberlag and RA. Carry on until you got some real numbers Losing dreads is so yesterday. Come back and post when you lose a mothership and titan combo... ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:43:00 - [65] why should we brag when we loose our 5¦e titan to a dual 500k bs spawn?? They are talkin about dreads here, not titan, when they start brag loosing titans, I will brag about our Titan lost Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:53:00 - [66] so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) Praeludium to success
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:53:00 - [67] Originally by: UnIQu3 Coda forces ? nice spin! anyhow who are those? Coalition of Dead Alliances. Originally by: UnIQu3 And about all the forces ya have, think some of them got podded back to delve, including a moros capital ship, only sum frigs that were lost in that engagement. The moros pilot was myself, I did indeed end up in NOL... right with my replacement Moros. U lost more than frigates, but I shall not be as pathetic as yourself to post killmails to all of them. Originally by: UnIQu3 PS. Dont come crying back and say that the dread loss is only like a bs loss! I had a replacement. With the same fittings (except for the cap relay)... do you? The day I cry about the loss of a virtual asset, boys and girls, is the day I realise I need to stop playing eve. It isn't gonna happen any time soon.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:56:00 - [68] Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) Uv gotta secure Q first wee man.
Zrevak Ashek	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:57:00 - [69] Funny thing is, Dianabolic is an Eve celebrity...thats the beauty of it. As it is now, we're running around killing celebrities. Now THATS why eh...someone needs to brag about the combination of killing a celebrity in a dread Another hilarious note about his war, is that almost all of the alliances that are going against BOB now, have at some point in time been declared dead and insignificant by SirMolle or Blacklight...did I mention dead? We know very well that BOB havent used all of their resources to combat this eh...coalition, and one of the objectives is to attempt to find out how much forces BOB can muster, in order to test their true strength. The dead is coming back to haunt the evul bobbits, and the evul bobbits are loving every minute of it -Z ____________________ Huzzah Federation
Truth Serum	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:57:00 - [70] Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) What is the point of this post? Are you complaining bob hs too many naps? Or are you begging for more help?

Hast	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:02:00 - [71] Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Funny thing is, Dianabolic is an Eve celebrity...thats the beauty of it. As it is now, we're running around killing celebrities. Now THATS why eh...someone needs to brag about the combination of killing a celebrity in a dread Another hilarious note about his war, is that almost all of the alliances that are going against BOB now, have at some point in time been declared dead and insignificant by SirMolle or Blacklight...did I mention dead? We know very well that BOB havent used all of their resources to combat this eh...coalition, and one of the objectives is to attempt to find out how much forces BOB can muster, in order to test their true strength. The dead is coming back to haunt the evul bobbits, and the evul bobbits are loving every minute of it -Z the fact that you have to have 6-7 alliances just to have the testicular fortitude to crawl out of your little dens and fight us says enough in my opinion. But kudos to your puny intellects for actually managing to rub two and two together and actually band up! Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
Zrevak Ashek	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:04:00 - [72] Thank you very much, allways a pleasure ____________________ Huzzah Federation
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:05:00 - [73] Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Thank you very much, allways a pleasure finally someone that understands tongue in cheek posts Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:08:00 - [74] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Thank you very much, allways a pleasure finally someone that understands tongue in cheek posts Your still a tosser hast. My toungue clearly out of my cheek. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:09:00 - [75] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Hast Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Thank you very much, allways a pleasure finally someone that understands tongue in cheek posts Your still a tosser hast. My toungue clearly out of my cheek. I heard you dislocalted your tongue last time you visited Cmd Woodlouse? Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:10:00 - [76] it all started out with just a 2 line post, the rumors about you getting flamed for saying stuff is true SirMolle /me bows to a master. doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:12:00 - [77] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Hast Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Thank you very much, allways a pleasure finally someone that understands tongue in cheek posts Your still a tosser hast. My toungue clearly out of my cheek. I heard you dislocalted your tongue last time you visited Cmd Woodlouse? Yes , he bit it, my tongue is now in a cast! Still that does not excuse your tosserishness. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Hawtchick69	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:15:00 - [78] Edited by: Hawtchick69 on 28/05/2006 21:15:35 ups wrong char
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:17:00 - [79] Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Funny thing is, Dianabolic is an Eve celebrity...thats the beauty of it. As it is now, we're running around killing celebrities. Now THATS why eh...someone needs to brag about the combination of killing a celebrity in a dread Heh, someone first informed me of this at the London meetup - I must say I am glad to bring such satisfaction and pleasure to, well, anyone really. If it makes you smile, may i die at your sword a thousand times, for I play eve for the laugh - and I look forward to enjoying that laugh with you. Ofc, I'd rather it was my pleasure and my loot, but hey - life's a ***** ;)
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:18:00 - [80] I would like to point out that the folks in 9cg havnt seen BoB's full force in 9cg yet. You've been dealing with less then half of the alliance so far so if the BoB CEO¦s have made a decision to take over Querious then we are claiming Querious. Good luck and have fun boys and girls cos its gonna be one hell of a ride.... well thats if we actually get a fight for when we bring in more people BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain

dimensionZ	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:19:00 - [81] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Funny thing is, Dianabolic is an Eve celebrity...thats the beauty of it. As it is now, we're running around killing celebrities. Now THATS why eh...someone needs to brag about the combination of killing a celebrity in a dread Heh, someone first informed me of this at the London meetup - I must say I am glad to bring such satisfaction and pleasure to, well, anyone really. If it makes you smile, may i die at your sword a thousand times, for I play eve for the laugh - and I look forward to enjoying that laugh with you. Ofc, I'd rather it was my pleasure and my loot, but hey - life's a ***** ;) Dian a celebrity ? Please, meet him first. You will change your mind. He isnt even a human being. ----------------------------------------
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:20:00 - [82] Note to self: in future, reformat hard-drive during the week as all the fun stuff happens on the weekend :/ Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
Kyoko Sakoda	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:25:00 - [83] Nice banner graphic, very... emo, actually. O.o;; Learn what it means to be Caldari - www.omertasyndicate.com
GO MaZ	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:27:00 - [84] Originally by: Kryztal Good luck and have fun boys and girls cos its gonna be one hell of a ride.... well thats if we actually get a fight for when we bring in more people I'm hoping our lot run on the same stuff that you lot do (blood & kills - and alcohol dianabolic?), and if so, I can only see this getting bigger and more fun by the day As that ****ty 1990's pop tune went "things... can only get better" ()
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:30:00 - [85] Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) All your posts are accompanied by pointless drivel and amazing bitterness --------------------------------
Amarthtel	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:30:00 - [86] Edited by: Amarthtel on 28/05/2006 21:30:20 Emo is codeword for not-hetero edit: stupid filter
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:33:00 - [87] Originally by: Heinky One question: Is BOB gona hold and secure that space or is it bob + friends? I kind like whats heppening coz i feel like BOB is getting a taste of their own meds, while also beeing confused how someone could do this to BOB coz i expected them to be much harder to atteck then this ( tho i dont know all the details , but it looks like bob is getting rolled over kinda). The people attecking BOB tho are using the boring outblob them tactics by the looks. Heinky, We're going to hold it. We aren't getting a taste of our own medicine, we are simply doing what we do best. We also aren't getting "rolled over" but you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. If anyone thinks we will take querious against 5/6 alliances without losing a ship then you are insane. Judge us on results not on random heresay by proven liars. cheers mate, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:38:00 - [88] Just out of interest, because im a noob busy with exams and stuff. Not able to check myself: Do you own Querious already, or, like the muppets are saying, are still working on claiming? Because like, a few ganksquads here and there are hardly relevant to an Alliance, but they usually think to be really important and relevant. Is there still fighting, or just said ganksquads of the Coalition?
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:40:00 - [89] Further to dbp's post, it's 7 ---------------
IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:42:00 - [90] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) All your posts are accompanied by pointless drivel and amazing bitterness not that I care what you say, but explain yourself. IMHO BOB cant do this without securing they wont get attacked by any of the mentioned entities. ASCN could kill of all their southern POS'S, D2 could take what they want, LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late, and FIX, well, FIX. So why the **** is that pointless drivel, buy I guess when compared to your words of wisdom that fill these forums everything is a pointless drivel. And yes, I dont like BOB and am perfectly allowed to vent that on this forum, as much as anyone else and as much as BOB can and is perfectly in the right to constantly smack my alliance which I respect and fight for. And btw, how many ships has D2 lost to BOB in the last 2 months? and how many have you killed? Praeludium to success

Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:44:00 - [91] Originally by: IcedBach Jr Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) All your posts are accompanied by pointless drivel and amazing bitterness not that I care what you say, but explain yourself. IMHO BOB cant do this without securing they wont get attacked by any of the mentioned entities. ASCN could kill of all their southern POS'S, D2 could take what they want, LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late, and FIX, well, FIX. So why the ** is that pointless drivel, buy I guess when compared to your words of wisdom that fill these forums everything is a pointless drivel. And yes, I dont like BOB and am perfectly allowed to vent that on this forum, as much as anyone else and as much as BOB can and is perfectly in the right to constantly smack my alliance which I respect and fight for. And btw, how many ships has D2 lost to BOB in the last 2 months? and how many have you killed? You just proved my points. Dont take this GAME** to serious, it isnt healthy... --------------------------------
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:46:00 - [92] Originally by: IcedBach Jr Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) All your posts are accompanied by pointless drivel and amazing bitterness not that I care what you say, but explain yourself. IMHO BOB cant do this without securing they wont get attacked by any of the mentioned entities. ASCN could kill of all their southern POS'S, D2 could take what they want, LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late, and FIX, well, FIX. So why the ** is that pointless drivel, buy I guess when compared to your words of wisdom that fill these forums everything is a pointless drivel. And yes, I dont like BOB and am perfectly allowed to vent that on this forum, as much as anyone else and as much as BOB can and is perfectly in the right to constantly smack my alliance which I respect and fight for. And btw, how many ships has D2 lost to BOB in the last 2 months? and how many have you killed? Yes anyone who says anything against SA must be an ally of BoB. Note the sarcasm. Originally by:** Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:47:00 - [93] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Just out of interest, because im a noob busy with exams and stuff. Not able to check myself: Do you own Querious already, or, like the muppets are saying, are still working on claiming? Because like, a few ganksquads here and there are hardly relevant to an Alliance, but they usually think to be really important and relevant. Is there still fighting, or just said ganksquads of the Coalition? Work in progress. Ask again at the end of your exams. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Wrok	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:48:00 - [94] Um i like this already.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:53:00 - [95] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) All your posts are accompanied by pointless drivel and amazing bitterness not that I care what you say, but explain yourself. IMHO BOB cant do this without securing they wont get attacked by any of the mentioned entities. ASCN could kill of all their southern POS'S, D2 could take what they want, LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late, and FIX, well, FIX. So why the ** is that pointless drivel, buy I guess when compared to your words of wisdom that fill these forums everything is a pointless drivel. And yes, I dont like BOB and am perfectly allowed to vent that on this forum, as much as anyone else and as much as BOB can and is perfectly in the right to constantly smack my alliance which I respect and fight for. And btw, how many ships has D2 lost to BOB in the last 2 months? and how many have you killed? You just proved my points. Dont take this GAME** to serious, it isnt healthy... I remember telling u that once woody! Im so glad your learning!!! Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:53:00 - [96] Originally by: IcedBach Jr [...]LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late[...] Last i checked LV has SA at +5, since about, err, forever. Also: Gardiner > LV have small *****'s anyway Gardiner > they cant handle this shut your own people up before you go off on a crusade yea?
DeltaH	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:57:00 - [97] Originally by: Audrea Originally by: StiZum Hilidii tbh rest of you that dont believe this will happen wait and see. it is ours and we shall prove it good to hear! the higher the pride the greater the fall, or something like that my previous post here disappeared somehow.. or wasnt posted.. anyway good luck to you. u will find out that 'challening' would be an understatement Huzzah is only one of tree people who hold territory outside of Querious.
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:03:00 - [98] As far as I can see, this coalition has set themselves up, exactly where they're enemies want them. They've given up the position they are generally comfortable and experienced in (ie guerilla warfare, without territory to defend), and put themselves into a position where they have to fight on OUR terms. There will be no running back to Agil, Stain or Aridia while claiming victory and no NPC stations to claim sov over. This is shaping up to be a good Winter (well, winter for Aussies anyway).
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:08:00 - [99] Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) rofl ok so let me get this straight everyone BUT BoB are allowed to nap people ingame. Are those the rules or something ? Because coming from 1 5 alliances fighting against us in Querious is kinda funny. Who we nap is nobody's buisness but our own. Keep up the smack though you might just turn this into another OMG BoB are smacktard thread. BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain
Grimster	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:10:00 - [100] Originally by: dimensionZ Dian a celebrity ? Please, meet him first. You will change your mind. He isnt even a human being. QFT! We blog at The Jammy Blog

machinis fit	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:16:00 - [101] Edited by: machinis fit on 28/05/2006 22:16:31 no offense but looks like bob was toying with less than half its forces in 9cg6. SA got a few LUCKY KILLS. AND NOW THEY HAVE PISED BOB OFF. I hope the COALITION is ready for the full attention of bob, because now they have it. ALSO LOL at the icebach guy already asking for help. what you want for LV d2 and ASCN to attack bobs home while bob is in QUERIOUS pummeling your insignifant coaltion to the groud? not man enough to fight the enemy you seeked for by yourself? by 'yourself' of course i mean all you 5 puny alliances.
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:19:00 - [102] Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) thats kinda ironic thinking u guys are How many?? 5,6 or is it 7 alliance vs bob atm ??? snip Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty
machinis fit	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:21:00 - [103] Originally by: Crucifier Edited by: Crucifier on 28/05/2006 22:21:13 Originally by: machinis fitnot man enough. Did an alt just say we were not men enaugh, Watch out for the irony. the truth hurts though doesn it you noob
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:21:00 - [104] Edited by: Crucifier on 28/05/2006 22:21:34 Edited by: Crucifier on 28/05/2006 22:21:13 Originally by: machinis not man enough. Did an alt just say we were not men enaugh, Watch out for the irony.
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:22:00 - [105] Originally by: machinis fit Originally by: Crucifier Edited by: Crucifier on 28/05/2006 22:21:13 Originally by: machinis fitnot man enough. Did an alt just say we were not men enaugh, Watch out for the irony. the truth hurts though doesn it you noob . I would kill you with the left hand on the mouse and right hand on keyboard without watching screen anyday.
Heinky	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:24:00 - [106] Edited by: Heinky on 28/05/2006 22:24:54 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Heinky One question: Is BOB gona hold and secure that space or is it bob + friends? I kind like whats heppening coz i feel like BOB is getting a taste of their own meds, while also beeing confused how someone could do this to BOB coz i expected them to be much harder to atteck then this ( tho i dont know all the details , but it looks like bob is getting rolled over kinda). The people attecking BOB tho are using the boring outblob them tactics by the looks. Heinky, We're going to hold it. We aren't getting a taste of our own medicine, we are simply doing what we do best. We also aren't getting "rolled over" but you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. If anyone thinks we will take querious against 5/6 alliances without losing a ship then you are insane. Judge us on results not on random heresay by proven liars. cheers mate, dbp Yhe , all i can go on is what people say on forums and kb link, thats why i didnt state anything. We will see how it will end, like Satan said im sure bob will come out on top. Looks like BOB and RA are in the same shoes atm and im pretty sure both parties will beat the others off.
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:27:00 - [107] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Originally by: IcedBach Jr [...]LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late[...] Last i checked LV has SA at +5, since about, err, forever. Also: Gardiner > LV have small ***'s anyway Gardiner > they cant handle this shut your own people up before you go off on a crusade yea? hia Elve, wanna nap'n stuff? I have exams tomorrow and wednesday aswell Originally by:** Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:31:00 - [108] Originally by: IcedBach Jr Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) All your posts are accompanied by pointless drivel and amazing bitterness not that I care what you say, but explain yourself. IMHO BOB cant do this without securing they wont get attacked by any of the mentioned entities. ASCN could kill of all their southern POS'S, D2 could take what they want, LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late, and FIX, well, FIX. So why the **** is that pointless drivel, buy I guess when compared to your words of wisdom that fill these forums everything is a pointless drivel. And yes, I dont like BOB and am perfectly allowed to vent that on this forum, as much as anyone else and as much as BOB can and is perfectly in the right to constantly smack my alliance which I respect and fight for. And btw, how many ships has D2 lost to BOB in the last 2 months? and how many have you killed? so anyone not joining your bandwagon MUST be napped to bob ? ever heared that eve doesnt center around you or bob and certain ppl might have their own (even well documented on these forums) business ? Maybe the rest of eve didnt get the memo that u wanted to rally everyone but the 1000 ppl in bob to beat them down, not to mention some ppl might have concerns as to what your coalition aims at after a possible defeat of bob. A progress or success against bob could be enough for the creation of another (contra-)coalition, wouldnt be the first time in human history that ppl rallied up out of fear of future expansions. Last but not least let me ask what makes bob napping someone "disgusting" and 7 alliances allying "good play"? Talk about doublestandards, can only agree with woody, bitterness forces the thoughts of this one.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:32:00 - [109] Originally by: Hast hia Elve, wanna nap'n stuff? I have exams tomorrow and wednesday aswell I got two tomorow, another tuesday and another wednesday. After that though - VACATION TIME! Goodluck
IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:35:00 - [110] Originally by: machinis fit Edited by: machinis fit on 28/05/2006 22:16:31 no offense but looks like bob was toying with less than half its forces in 9cg6. SA got a few LUCKY KILLS. AND NOW THEY HAVE PISED BOB OFF. I hope the COALITION is ready for the full attention of bob, because now they have it. ALSO LOL at the icebach guy already asking for help. what you want for LV d2 and ASCN to attack bobs home while bob is in QUERIOUS pummeling your insignifant coaltion to the groud? not man enough to fight the enemy you seeked for by yourself? by 'yourself' of course i mean all you 5 puny alliances. asking for help?? at least Im man enough to post with my main. And btw, didnt BOB reset all their standings saying NAP's were bad. At least some groups stood up to them. Praeludium to success

Kryztal	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:37:00 - [111] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? LV? FIX? D2? if not guess your Delve poses will be looking mighty fine soon(TM) All your posts are accompanied by pointless drivel and amazing bitterness not that I care what you say, but explain yourself. IMHO BOB cant do this without securing they wont get attacked by any of the mentioned entities. ASCN could kill of all their southern POS'S, D2 could take what they want, LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late, and FIX, well, FIX. So why the ** is that pointless drivel, buy I guess when compared to your words of wisdom that fill these forums everything is a pointless drivel. And yes, I dont like BOB and am perfectly allowed to vent that on this forum, as much as anyone else and as much as BOB can and is perfectly in the right to constantly smack my alliance which I respect and fight for. And btw, how many ships has D2 lost to BOB in the last 2 months? and how many have you killed? You just proved my points. Dont take this GAME to serious, it isnt healthy... I remember telling u that once woody! Im so glad your learning!!! Its true, innit ! BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain**
Trina Tron	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:40:00 - [112] nice banner
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.28 22:53:00 - [113] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Hassiana i have an interest because: 1) i love this game and all it involves 2) its a public forum, yes public 3) read number 2 Good so long as we are clear that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and are posting for the sake of it. I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... So I guess that alt has as much accurate knowledge regarding the situation/events, as you. Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:00:00 - [114] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Hassiana i have an interest because: 1) i love this game and all it involves 2) its a public forum, yes public 3) read number 2 Good so long as we are clear that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and are posting for the sake of it. I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... So I guess that alt has as much accurate knowledge regarding the situation/events, as you. unless you take into account that blacklight has more then 1 char and is the leader of bnc and bob director so will naturally receive reports from a) other bob seniors or b) his corp underlings. If you take that into account his views are prolly more fact based than any random "look mom i have a 100k skp flamealt" post.
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:00:00 - [115] Originally by: w0rmy I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... Well that is what happens when you yourself are not in 9CG local ---------------
Hellraiza666	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:14:00 - [116] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Hassiana i have an interest because: 1) i love this game and all it involves 2) its a public forum, yes public 3) read number 2 Good so long as we are clear that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and are posting for the sake of it. I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... So I guess that alt has as much accurate knowledge regarding the situation/events, as you. has it not occured to you that some people have more than 1 character?
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:18:00 - [117] Originally by: w0rmy I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... So I guess that alt has as much accurate knowledge regarding the situation/events, as you. Our inter-alliance communication is a slightly more reliable source of intel, than random postings on eve-o. Also, as stated previously, the coalition has not been fighting the whole of BoB since the start of engagements.
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:25:00 - [118] just had the worst fight of my life. managed to lock all targets but never activated my guns once :( stuck atm with 3 enemy ships around me but no one is doing a thing FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA
nickky01	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:27:00 - [119] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii just had the worst fight of my life. managed to lock all targets but never activated my guns once :( stuck atm with 3 enemy ships around me but no one is doing a thing stuck logging in...going on 20 minutes now
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:28:00 - [120] Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 28/05/2006 23:30:01 serious mad lag tonight im pretty sure we lost a fair chunk of bs but hey ho ccp owned us sorry there is no lagg according to cpp FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA

Orc A	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:29:00 - [121] no lock, no mod activation, infact, not even control over where my ship is going. Was pretty seeing a big fight like that though. gf. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Hell's Wraith	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:29:00 - [122] which part of querious does bob hold? cause i cant see sov anywhere in the region for bob
Denrace	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:29:00 - [123] Edited by: Denrace on 28/05/2006 23:30:54 Its a perfectly reasonable and announcement-based thread. If people wanna ****-stir, they can crap in a bucket and get a twig. P.S - Kudos to BOB Den ________________________________________
Darpz	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:30:00 - [124] Edited by: Darpz on 28/05/2006 23:31:54 Originally by: StiZum Hilidii serious mad lag tonight im pretty sure we lost a fair chunk of bs but hey ho ccp owned us agreed lag was terrible...gf to all involved though i'm sure we lost a bundle also all this ammo in my tubes and I can't let any of it go free :( The only good fix is a DEAD fix
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:32:00 - [125] Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: w0rmy I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... Well that is what happens when you yourself are not in 9CG local 30+ hours in the last 48? You excuse me for sitting at work here, monday afternoon. Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:32:00 - [126] Originally by: Hellraiza666 I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... So I guess that alt has as much accurate knowledge regarding the situation/events, as you. has it not occured to you that some people have more than 1 character? Wonder if the same ever occured to Blacklight BoB guy: "OMG STFU UP ALT, ALTS ARE BAD MKAY?" Someone: "You werent even there, so stfu yourself" BoB guy: "OMG I WAS I WAS IN AN ALT!!!one11One1!!" Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
Darpz	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:33:00 - [127] this is going to be ugly I just decided to warp back to fleet and another fight started. 10 bucks I see blank space the whole fight The only good fix is a DEAD fix
Riddari	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:34:00 - [128] Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? 1. ASCN standing towards BOB is -2.5 (see standings page) 2. ASCN has limited interest in jumping on bandwagons ¼+¼ a history
Cadiz	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:36:00 - [129] Originally by: local what happened to fix then? This is just me speculating, but...have you ever heard of an alliance named Xelas? ------ Director, Blood Moon Horde "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Emily Black	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:37:00 - [130] Originally by: Riddari Originally by: IcedBach Jr so BOB is back on the NAP wagon, who is on the list now ASCN? 1. ASCN standing towards BOB is -2.5 (see standings page) 2. ASCN has limited interest in jumping on bandwagons true but you mucks have a deal with bob not to get involved in any major war against them in exchange bob won't attack you

Sochin	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:38:00 - [131] Can't...lock...targets. Lag....crippling sig file must be less than 24000 bytes. Mail [email protected] for info - Cathath Nemo me impune lacessit
Frools	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:42:00 - [132] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii just had the worst fight of my life. managed to lock all targets but never activated my guns once :( stuck atm with 3 enemy ships around me but no one is doing a thing haha yea, both the biggest and worst fight ever (coincidence? i think not ) didnt get one volley off took about 10mins (or at least it felt that long) for my poor geddon to 'die' while i spammed the warp button arrived at safe spot with half my mods missing and 56 structure, 10mins after that my pod finally arrived \o/ back home now, pod intact
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:42:00 - [133] Edited by: Ab Initio on 28/05/2006 23:44:50 Originally by: w0rmy has it not occured to you that some people have more than 1 character? Wonder if the same ever occured to Blacklight BoB guy: "OMG STFU UP ALT, ALTS ARE BAD MKAY?" Someone: "You werent even there, so stfu yourself" BoB guy: "OMG I WAS I WAS IN AN ALT!!!one11One1!!" You don't see a difference between forum posting alts, and combat alts? Personally, I use one of three different combat accounts depending on what ship class the fleet is using. I dont consider any of them alts, they are all main characters, and all fly the BoB / Evol flag.
skygrazer	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:48:00 - [134] This lag fest is brought to you by CCP. Please do not complain, all laggage will be denied and there is nothing that can be done except to suck it in and accept this monumentus l...a....erk...lag...death...
Prydeless	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:53:00 - [135] LOL I saw you guys warp in the second or third time, whenever it was, and 5 seconds later i was in pod haha, lots of lag, truly an awesome fleet engagement though.
Darpz	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:54:00 - [136] Originally by: skygrazer This lag fest is brought to you by CCP. Please do not complain, all laggage will be denied and there is nothing that can be done except to suck it in and accept this monumentus l...a....erk...lag...death... yup I expect many gms to be pasting the canned responce I'm sorry for your loss but our logs show no problems....blah blah blah blah The only good fix is a DEAD fix
nickky01	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:56:00 - [137] \o/ i finally got in...if i type something it takes a least a minute before i can type something else...the number of people in local goes from 358 to 340 to 360 every few seconds...and peoples profiles (the bio thing) keep popping up on my screen even though i havn't clicked anything =D should be an interesting night
Roland 99	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:06:00 - [138] Did CCP hire the server team from Blizzard? WTF by the time you can see someone's locking indicator youre already in structure the next time it updates 10-15 seconds later _______ My pod is filled with beer. Dont make me spring a leak
Doppleganger	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:07:00 - [139] 9CG has always been so laggy to fight in going back 2+ yrs now. This should not come as a suprise to anyone that has fought there before. Good luck to all.... the Lag Monster cometh...........
Great Deceiver	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:12:00 - [140] well, i didn't get to fire a single shot ALL engagement, nothing would activate, 20-25mins i was waiting. 10mins to lock 1/5 targets. that sucked, i had no fun at all tbh. then i died, apparently.

pardux	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:12:00 - [141] =\| lag bad.
Nira Li	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:30:00 - [142] Originally by: nickky01 poor show in local BoB...the lag is bad enough as it is :( x x!! X DAMNIT!!! COMPUTER CRASH!!! oh this is not local You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
Tirfing	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:32:00 - [143] Yeah that was a realy fun battle. Trying to lock stuff for 10mins then ctd and 50mins of trying to login
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:33:00 - [144] Originally by: w0rmy I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... So I guess that alt has as much accurate knowledge regarding the situation/events, as you. Are you mad? I've been in 9CG from day one except a few hours. Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Aside from whether I was there or not don't you think one of the BoB CEo's would know exactly what was going on in there? Eve Blacklight Style
pony2slow	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:34:00 - [145] Originally by: Tirfing Yeah that was a realy fun battle. Trying to lock stuff for 10mins then ctd and 50mins of trying to login yeah this is what CCP intended with there Yardware.. 3 minutes for module activation and by the time you activate them you have been dead for two mintues.. we both suffer the same thing.. we pay for this game to have CCP wtfpwn both sides everytime we duke it out.. was fun for the few minutes i was there until i warped out and had my ship do the stupid dance for minutes until i died.. and also you guys should really think about creating another channel to do gangs in.. its bad enough already.. --------------------------------------------- alt of ponieus of BNC.. I am too lazy to change it when i post.
Bozse	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:45:00 - [146] Originally by: nickky01 poor show in local BoB...the lag is bad enough as it is :( I sugest that u talk to your leaders and have them set up a channel for your gang invites, i mean some one have to be able to figure out how to creat one. If i where your gang leader atm checking info on invite requests in local i would probably end myself.
Prydeless	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:54:00 - [147] Picture of the engagement
BadManEdmundo	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:56:00 - [148] Originally by: Prydeless Picture of the engagement Setup plolice.. I dont know whats worse that or a Damnation that died with a 10.5% cap recharger
nickky01	Posted - 2006.05.29 00:57:00 - [149] Originally by: Bozse Originally by: nickky01 poor show in local BoB...the lag is bad enough as it is :( I sugest that u talk to your leaders and have them set up a channel for your gang invites, i mean some one have to be able to figure out how to creat one. If i where your gang leader atm checking info on invite requests in local i would probably end myself. i agree man, x'ing in local for gang isn't to smart...i'm not trying to flame anyone but i lagged out for a few minutes then saw a million X's flying through local...that wasn't cool :(
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:00:00 - [150] Good fight in 9CG, well played CODA for standing and fighting for so long. Lag was predictably horrific all round but it was a lot of fun and the only fleet fight I have been in recently that lasted anywhere near that long. Eve Blacklight Style

laotse	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:00:00 - [151] i am sad to see so much hate guy,s its a game akt normal please there is **** to many in the real world ff,s grow up all 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg[/img] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Bozse	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:01:00 - [152] Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Bozse Originally by: nickky01 poor show in local BoB...the lag is bad enough as it is :( I sugest that u talk to your leaders and have them set up a channel for your gang invites, i mean some one have to be able to figure out how to creat one. If i where your gang leader atm checking info on invite requests in local i would probably end myself. i agree man, x'ing in local for gang isn't to smart...i'm not trying to flame anyone but i lagged out for a few minutes then saw a million X's flying through local...that wasn't cool :( Emagin how it's from our view having 100's of people x-ing in local day in and day out, so i hear your complaint but have little sympathy.
RaptorX	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:02:00 - [153] /shrugs I had a great time tonight. Great fight(s)!! Thanks to all involved.
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:06:00 - [154] I just took a gander at the provided screen shot, it looked.... busy. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:13:00 - [155] Originally by: Prydeless Picture of the engagement and here is the end of the fight from my view End of Fight in 9cg --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
slip66	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:15:00 - [156] lag was bad but you really cant blame ccp 400 people in local 0.o the lag did get better as ships started poping though. gf, you know its a good one when the fight last 50+ min. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:20:00 - [157] 260au safespots with carriers, shouldn't be considered safe btw. ---------------
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:23:00 - [158] Originally by: Amthrianius 260au safespots with carriers, shouldn't be considered safe btw. Was wondering where you found those. I'd just logged and you guys go and round the night off like that without me Old blog
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:27:00 - [159] Originally by: Orc A Another thread of false promises? Like the one where SA was to be wiped out? BoB look sillier every day. Oh Oh Oh, so they didn't drive u out of stain? OMGOSH yes they did, u ran into delve and declared how wonderful u where and then they returned to delve and OMGOSH u ran back into stain shouting tactical movements without Huzzah/SMASH/VC u woulkd never have beaten fix and you know it Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
Roland 99	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:28:00 - [160] My nose is detecting a hint of rodent in the immediate vicinity _______ My pod is filled with beer. Dont make me spring a leak

Truth Serum	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:28:00 - [161] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Hassiana i have an interest because: 1) i love this game and all it involves 2) its a public forum, yes public 3) read number 2 Good so long as we are clear that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and are posting for the sake of it. From your own koalition. I havent seen the name 'Blacklight' in local much over the last few days either... So I guess that alt has as much accurate knowledge regarding the situation/events, as you. Look at 94 km
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:31:00 - [162] cans with loot and bm's ftw FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA
Arron S	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:32:00 - [163] Originally by: Amthrianius 260au safespots with carriers, shouldn't be considered safe btw. beats the tard who did the gang warp to the safe
Eleese	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:33:00 - [164] not bad 2gig of frapsy :) great fight
Icarus100	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:38:00 - [165] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Originally by: IcedBach Jr [...]LV have been smackin SA and friends alot of late[...] Last i checked LV has SA at +5, since about, err, forever. Also: Gardiner > LV have small *****'s anyway Gardiner > they cant handle this shut your own people up before you go off on a crusade yea? I hope you realize that Gardiner says that about everyone, even his own alliance mates Omigod signature hijack! Sig removed, please keep it below 24000 bytes, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:38:00 - [166] Originally by: nickky01 poor show in local BoB...the lag is bad enough as it is :( Perhaps you should get a channel to create your gangs then? We have no interest in seeing x after x after x, it's pretty damn simple to create a gang for that stuff - local is a public channel as your guys are so fond of saying, so expect us to use it in that vein.
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:40:00 - [167] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii cans with loot and bm's ftw Yup, Prydless ftw! ---------------
SGXiphias	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:44:00 - [168] Quote: 260au safespots with carriers, shouldn't be considered safe btw.
Prydeless	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:45:00 - [169] Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: StiZum Hilidii cans with loot and bm's ftw Yup, Prydless ftw! I didnt have bm's in my loot you noob
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:52:00 - [170] Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks

Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:55:00 - [171] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones Don't know what you are talking about tbh. All alts posting on their forums (unless they identify their main in their sig or something) are bad. You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? Eve Blacklight Style
Auman	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:55:00 - [172] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones lol, just lol
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:56:00 - [173] Originally by: Ab Initio You don't see a difference between forum posting alts, and combat alts? I see very little difference between: a main on the forums, posting information he gathered from local with his alt and an alt on the forums, posting information he gathered from local with his main. I am supprised you do. Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:57:00 - [174] Edited by: w0rmy on 29/05/2006 01:58:34 Originally by: Blacklight You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? It was as accurate as your fellow members comments regarding my presence in 9cg, and i was there with my main. Do you stand by what he said or does Amthrianius have nfc? Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.29 02:00:00 - [175] Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 29/05/2006 01:58:34 Originally by: Blacklight You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? It was as accurate as your fellow members comments regarding my presence in 9cg, and i was there with my main. Do you stand by what he said or does Amthrianius have nfc? Are you a politician? If Amth was incorrect then he was incorrect. Do you stand by your comments or not? Eve Blacklight Style
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.29 02:01:00 - [176] Originally by: Blacklight If Amth was incorrect then he was incorrect. Do you stand by your comments or not? That I didnt see Blacklight in local at all, yes. Are you saying Amthrianius doesnt know what he is talking about? Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.05.29 02:07:00 - [177] w0rmy is funny ---------------
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.05.29 02:16:00 - [178] Originally by: w0rmy I see very little difference between: a main on the forums, posting information he gathered from local with his alt and an alt on the forums, posting information he gathered from local with his main. I am supprised you do. Accountability is the difference. When people are made accountable for what they say, they are likely to put effort into making sure what they are saying is in fact correct. They also avoid posting for the sake of posting, because of the affect on reputation. When people are not accountable for there actions, they post without thought, they post for the sake of posting, and it doesn't matter if they are incorrect. As for my actual point (which didnt have anything to do with your reply), I was comparing forum alts, and combat characters. Forum alts are for avoiding accountability, combat characters are generally chosen based on skills and specialisation. There is no comparison between the two.
Kren Mobius	Posted - 2006.05.29 02:17:00 - [179] Originally by: Amthrianius w0rmy is funny Coolest sig I've seen man!
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.29 02:21:00 - [180] Originally by: Ab Initio Forum alts are for avoiding accountability, combat characters are generally chosen based on skills and specialisation.. Forum alts are used to avoid accountability... Combat alts are used to avoid being called... Both are used to avoid retalatory actions for the other. The two are indeed comparable. Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks

Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.05.29 02:30:00 - [181] Originally by: w0rmy Both are used to avoid retalatory actions for the other. The two are indeed comparable. The day all these forum alts start wearing Corp / Alliance tags (like there combat brethren), I'll happily agree. While they remain spineless SWA recruits, we'll have to agree to disagree.
Josiah Bartlet	Posted - 2006.05.29 03:35:00 - [182] Be niced to w0rmy, he's one of xirtam's special ones. --- SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR
Kahlil	Posted - 2006.05.29 04:06:00 - [183] I just dig Ab Initio's name...worked in insurance for awhile...we used that term to cancel ppl when they lied to us...usually resulting in a loss on their part. It means "from the beginning" or "to the start"...funny i joined a corp that with a name that is known as "The ending"...latin, greek, it's all good. Anyways, lag is tremendous, but the playtime is fun, see ya 'round.
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.29 04:41:00 - [184] Originally by: Josiah Bartlet Be niced to w0rmy, he's one of xirtam's special ones. Awww wheres that hug emoticon Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
skygrazer	Posted - 2006.05.29 05:28:00 - [185] Originally by: skygrazer Tho we suffer the trial and tribulations of the forums hoes, the truth will set you free.....but first it will make our agrressors miserable as I said..... I invite all parties to view the killboard truth hurts
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.29 05:37:00 - [186] Edited by: Avernus on 29/05/2006 05:40:03 Originally by: skygrazer Originally by: skygrazer Tho we suffer the trial and tribulations of the forums hoes, the truth will set you free.....but first it will make our agrressors miserable as I said..... I invite all parties to view the killboard truth hurts Awww man! This totally screws my corps stats against BOB! Sheesh, we start fighting next to you for once, and all of a sudden we have to share killmails... PS. Digi has the honour of having the last untainted killmail on IT's little section there Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.05.29 07:34:00 - [187] Fight last night: Good-still alive Bad- not on single killmail (wonder why) One situations was so funny and wierd....I warped back to fight at our POS. Time has passed by before i load. And FINALY, I was ready to fight again...POS, ships loaded.....but PUFF....screen sudenly changed and my ship was in warp somehwere, dont know where. But it was interesting non the less....will I see them locking me, will I manage to warp if so, etc,etc...so many questions going through your head while waiting in fight for target to be locked and turrets fire to start DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Lowa	Posted - 2006.05.29 07:53:00 - [188] Was about to ask about lag but I see that it has been answered. And it was not the answers I wanted to see either. Wonder what it would be like if it wasnt in the middle of the night when I suspect its not 20k+ online. Screw all additions, please solve lag! /LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.05.29 07:59:00 - [189] Well, 350 ppl at least involved in fight is the reason itself for a lag. Now sum that with battlefield was at POS (which allways was a problem, I hoped server upgrades improve this aspect as well....but POS is a killer) DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Avon	Posted - 2006.05.29 08:05:00 - [190] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Ab Initio Forum alts are for avoiding accountability, combat characters are generally chosen based on skills and specialisation.. Forum alts are used to avoid accountability... Combat alts are used to avoid being called... Both are used to avoid retalatory actions for the other. The two are indeed comparable. Yes, but forum alts need no training, no time investment, and could be replaced instantly by any other 1 day character. Now, the same may be true for your combat alts, but that isn't the norm. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

Netto	Posted - 2006.05.29 08:48:00 - [191] Edited by: Netto on 29/05/2006 08:48:36 Originally by: Amarthtel Emo is codeword for not-hetero edit: stupid filter I must be EMO! Netto Celestial Fleet - We care.
Arron S	Posted - 2006.05.29 09:50:00 - [192] The BoB threads its ruining my life
Smith	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:03:00 - [193] Originally by: Arron S The BoB threads its ruining my life Good.
Auntie Bob	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:11:00 - [194] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones Don't know what you are talking about tbh. All alts posting on their forums (unless they identify their main in their sig or something) are bad. You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? lol fatlight you made a BS accusation of owning querious, contradiction ftl. You guys need a clue your propagandas starting to work against u Still chasing after evols rep, BNC are nothing more than nubs abd carebears and only show any volume on forums.
Aves	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:12:00 - [195] Originally by: Darpz Edit Damn I was unpopular I was primary on comming out of warp Edit * This was a BoB 'tactic' they applied. Knowing people would lag for a minute on warping back in, it gave them time to pop the ship without it having any chance. Nice going, BOB. /me pukes
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:12:00 - [196] Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones Don't know what you are talking about tbh. All alts posting on their forums (unless they identify their main in their sig or something) are bad. You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? lol fatlight you made a BS accusation of owning querious, contradiction ftl. You guys need a clue your propagandas starting to work against u Still chasing after evols rep, BNC are nothing more than nubs abd carebears and only show any volume on forums. BNC schooled you so you cant post with your main? Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:17:00 - [197] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones Don't know what you are talking about tbh. All alts posting on their forums (unless they identify their main in their sig or something) are bad. You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? lol fatlight you made a BS accusation of owning querious, contradiction ftl. You guys need a clue your propagandas starting to work against u Still chasing after evols rep, BNC are nothing more than nubs abd carebears and only show any volume on forums. BNC schooled you so you cant post with your main? Pot kettle black! Xirtam weighs at least 20 stone. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Auntie Bob	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:25:00 - [198] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones Don't know what you are talking about tbh. All alts posting on their forums (unless they identify their main in their sig or something) are bad. You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? lol fatlight you made a BS accusation of owning querious, contradiction ftl. You guys need a clue your propagandas starting to work against u Still chasing after evols rep, BNC are nothing more than nubs abd carebears and only show any volume on forums. BNC schooled you so you cant post with your main? lol BNC are a joke due to fatlights posts, and ATUKs rep was lost when you guys sold out to BoB, ATUK once respected now ridiculed.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:29:00 - [199] Originally by: Aves Originally by: Darpz Edit Damn I was unpopular I was primary on comming out of warp Edit * This was a BoB 'tactic' they applied. Knowing people would lag for a minute on warping back in, it gave them time to pop the ship without it having any chance. Nice going, BOB. /me pukes It's actually a trick we learnt from fighting [G]. It's also something we learnt to counter, fighting [G]. Try not to be so bitter.
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.05.29 11:13:00 - [200] Originally by: Aves Originally by: Darpz Edit Damn I was unpopular I was primary on comming out of warp Edit * This was a BoB 'tactic' they applied. Knowing people would lag for a minute on warping back in, it gave them time to pop the ship without it having any chance. Nice going, BOB. /me pukes Is there something wrong with your mind, dear child? I honestly can not understand what make you post crap as this. I mean, you were 350km+ from our POS. Everything loaded. Then we warp at 100km !!!!!!!!. Not 180+, but at 100km range. Then fight was on (even though for majority laggy as hell). Everybody warped out and come back to fight...BOTH sides...and both sides expirianced loading time over and over. And , tbfh, If I would start locking target that just warped in I could never lock it in time...cause i couldnt lock single from start of the fight, in the first place. And even if i could....doeasnt logic telling you that you could do the same (EVERYBODY had loading time after coming back to fight). Come on guys...think a bit before you post DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??

Masochist	Posted - 2006.05.29 12:04:00 - [201] Edited by: Masochist on 29/05/2006 12:08:14 Originally by: Prydeless Picture of the engagement GOAL!!!! Oh uhm you can clearly see that coalition is stretched out there taking it too leisure while BOB is taking a corner at bottom left not? P.s. Did coalition bring in the miners yet?
Lone Bear	Posted - 2006.05.29 12:04:00 - [202] Originally by: Prydeless Picture of the engagement I knew I was feeling some ♥
fire 59	Posted - 2006.05.29 12:16:00 - [203] Edited by: fire 59 on 29/05/2006 12:15:55 Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: Hast Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight Blacklight has a HUGE target on his arse so I fly one or two alt characters in combat mostly. Nah it just amazes me how the only credible alts are BoB ones Don't know what you are talking about tbh. All alts posting on their forums (unless they identify their main in their sig or something) are bad. You made a BS accusation about my presence in 9CG and my knowledge of what is going on in there, do you still stand by it? lol fatlight you made a BS accusation of owning querious, contradiction ftl. You guys need a clue your propagandas starting to work against u Still chasing after evols rep, BNC are nothing more than nubs abd carebears and only show any volume on forums. BNC schooled you so you cant post with your main? lol BNC are a joke due to fatlights posts, and ATUKs rep was lost when you guys sold out to BoB, ATUK once respected now ridiculed. You're funny, Atuk ridiculed, sold out, lol, you ***** me up. Oh, and post with your main you wimp. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Aves	Posted - 2006.05.29 12:52:00 - [204] I'm just pointing out that I find it lame tactics, I am sure the developers of this game would agree that this is a big flaw in the game mechanics. I wasn't made aware of this trick untill last night. Now, I'm worried about the quality of grand fleetbattles. If you think I'm happy about applying the same tactics, you are grossly mistaken. Regardless, I'm having fun in 9CG, see you all soon.
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.05.29 13:00:00 - [205] Edited by: Darcuese on 29/05/2006 13:00:51 Aves, allthough Im young in game, I beliave i was involved in lot more fleet batles last cupple of months then you. I will tell you few things. LAG is random and you never know how hard or not can hit you. PPL might warp in and load before you can load them. Same as jumping in. It was suspected that those that jump will die allways. But beliave me, sometimes those can load faster. Maybe not as often but it doeas happen. so stop calling somebody else lamers if you cant hold losses in lag battles. Every alt calling us smackers, chestbeaters, etc,etc....ppl dont like us,etc,etc. You wouldnt see so many posts of ours if so many crap posts wouldnt be writen calling us with names. (And offcourse, bit of smacking allways bring some variaty in game) DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Torment	Posted - 2006.05.29 13:02:00 - [206] TBH who cares who won or lost..we all got to have a huge fleet battle and i for one is why i play this game. Even though i spent 40 mins trying to get locks on people And when the fight had ended i still had the same amount of ammo in my guns,that must be some kind of record
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.05.29 13:32:00 - [207] Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 29/05/2006 13:33:22 This post is awesome, i've missed high quality smack keep it comming :-/ Oh btw duke and thol, whats the score between u two? You had a chance to lead a fleet against one another yet? :) Carrier & Fighter Sales
Nira Li	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:14:00 - [208] Originally by: Aves I'm just pointing out that I find it lame tactics, I am sure the developers of this game would agree that this is a big flaw in the game mechanics. I wasn't made aware of this trick untill last night. Now, I'm worried about the quality of grand fleetbattles. If you think I'm happy about applying the same tactics, you are grossly mistaken. Regardless, I'm having fun in 9CG, see you all soon. so it's lame to warp out and warp in to the battle again? wow who brainwashed you You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:16:00 - [209] Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 29/05/2006 13:33:22 This post is awesome, i've missed high quality smack keep it comming :-/ Oh btw duke and thol, whats the score between u two? You had a chance to lead a fleet against one another yet? :) btw your on the wrong side HPLW come back to the dark side my friend --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
Trakh Shardan	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:16:00 - [210] Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 28/05/2006 18:29:33 Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all. try get us outa 9CG befor ya make a post like that U cant cleam space if it isnt yours yet !

Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:22:00 - [211] Originally by: Auntie Bob lol fatlight you made a BS accusation of owning querious, contradiction ftl. You guys need a clue your propagandas starting to work against u Still chasing after evols rep, BNC are nothing more than nubs abd carebears and only show any volume on forums. Awww how cute, kill you too many times in the past did we? I don't think we have to justify anything about our corp to be honest, the very fact that frightened little alts like you post stuff like this just warms the*****les of my heart. Have a hug noobie, you obviously need it Eve Blacklight Style
slip66	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:24:00 - [212] Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 29/05/2006 13:33:22 This post is awesome, i've missed high quality smack keep it comming :-/ Oh btw duke and thol, whats the score between u two? You had a chance to lead a fleet against one another yet? :) Thol lead some last week, not sure about duke. Duke was there in some of the fights in his BB along with bared. they looked so cute, together atlast :) . Its still funny seeing Marz in local on the other side. Honestly I wonder who is doing the FCing for thier side. I allways liked flying under duke. They have Duke and Xirt, hehe you know how it was allways a laugh with those two in the same fleet :) Oh and to the whiners its lag deal with it the same happens to us. With that much lag do you think we can tell who is lagged to F or not? NO!! we jsut shoot stuff... Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
slip66	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:26:00 - [213] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Auntie Bob lol fatlight you made a BS accusation of owning querious, contradiction ftl. You guys need a clue your propagandas starting to work against u Still chasing after evols rep, BNC are nothing more than nubs abd carebears and only show any volume on forums. Awww how cute, kill you too many times in the past did we? I don't think we have to justify anything about our corp to be honest, the very fact that frightened little alts like you post stuff like this just warms the*****les of my heart. Have a hug noobie, you obviously need it heh BL I read his post here, then I think about Kyz post in BNC forums yesterday. I just laugh and feel sorry for them. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Mark A	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:58:00 - [214] Originally by: Trakh Shardan try get us outa 9CG befor ya make a post like that U cant cleam space if it isnt yours yet ! lol, "yet" ;)
ItakeItDeep	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:15:00 - [215] But you obviously didnt take it yet, so why lie and say you did?
NAFnist	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:16:00 - [216] Originally by: ItakeItDeep But you obviously didnt take it yet, so why lie and say you did? ffs i hate my alt
Loftur sterki	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:34:00 - [217] I'm claiming Dvelve as from today, I'll be cleaning up the crap there in next few weeks. Good day to you all.. Grumpy old Viking
MortyM	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:36:00 - [218] Originally by: Loftur sterki I'm claiming Dvelve as from today, I'll be cleaning up the crap there in next few weeks. Good day to you all.. Everybody can make such statements, difference is that we acctually back it up ingame ;)
ItakeItDeep	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:38:00 - [219] Originally by: MortyM Originally by: Loftur sterki I'm claiming Dvelve as from today, I'll be cleaning up the crap there in next few weeks. Good day to you all.. Everybody can make such statements, difference is that we acctually back it up ingame ;) molle is saying you have the region already, and thats a lie.
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:44:00 - [220] Originally by: Trakh Shardan Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 28/05/2006 18:29:33 Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all. try get us outa 9CG befor ya make a post like that U cant cleam space if it isnt yours yet ! Well your numbers are rapidly decreasing as there is only what 15-20 people left in 9cg by the looks of things, im soooooo hoping youll all come back tonight but ive got a feeling SA are gonna be running back to agil/yz9 claiming that they beat us with their run and hide tactic, prove me wrong please (i know your still there svetlanna). Also SA talking about claiming space would be funny as you dont claim any and yeah well Stain is npc stations and multiple factions live there and fight there so i wouldnt exactly call it yours as you WONT fight for it. Finally, xirtam ty for bringing the fight it was more then most of these guys have done so far. BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain

Kryztal	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:46:00 - [221] Originally by: ItakeItDeep Originally by: MortyM Originally by: Loftur sterki I'm claiming Dvelve as from today, I'll be cleaning up the crap there in next few weeks. Good day to you all.. Everybody can make such statements, difference is that we acctually back it up ingame ;) molle is saying you have the region already, and thats a lie. We only just started taking it back, and we back Molle's post up ingame unlike others. 9cg is just the first stage of the cleanup. BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain
Loftur sterki	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:47:00 - [222] The whole EvE communty is laffin @ BoB for exacly stupit statments like those who have come from Molle, as we all know from history crasy dictators end up loosing everything includin their lives. You can all thank him for the revoulution wich will only end when his head will be handed on a plate. BOB will be wiped out.... Grumpy old Viking
TheOnyx	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:50:00 - [223] Wooohaaaay !!! 99% BoB replies...again ! Sorry...go on...
BlackRain	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:55:00 - [224] Originally by: ItakeItDeep molle is saying you have the region already, and thats a lie. Poor baby, here's a hug. Seriously, you are arguing semantics now. Set aside the exact wording of the announcement and just look at the big picture. We're there now and we're kicking the hell out of everyone who stands between us and our goal. That's called "backing up your claims". I'd like to see you try to take over Delve. ------------------- -
BlackRain	Posted - 2006.05.29 15:57:00 - [225] Originally by: Loftur sterki The whole EvE communty is laffin @ BoB for exacly stupit statments like those who have come from Molle, as we all know from history crasy dictators end up loosing everything includin their lives. You can all thank him for the revoulution wich will only end when his head will be handed on a plate. BOB will be wiped out.... Pass the mushrooms man.. ------------------- -
Loftur sterki	Posted - 2006.05.29 16:01:00 - [226] I'll buy you a ticet to come and get'em Grumpy old Viking
Cyleth	Posted - 2006.05.29 16:21:00 - [227] Edited by: Cyleth on 29/05/2006 16:21:40 Originally by: TheOnyx 99% BoB replies...again !
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.29 16:23:00 - [228] Originally by: TheOnyx 99% BoB replies...again ! It's our thread. Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
StarFoox	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:03:00 - [229] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Aves Originally by: Darpz Edit Damn I was unpopular I was primary on comming out of warp Edit * This was a BoB 'tactic' they applied. Knowing people would lag for a minute on warping back in, it gave them time to pop the ship without it having any chance. Nice going, BOB. /me pukes It's actually a trick we learnt from fighting [G]. It's also something we learnt to counter, fighting [G]. Try not to be so bitter. I was really late jumping in when doing the fleet battle in 9CG. And of course BOB used this chicken tactics. While my computer where loading all the graphics i was already into structure. They made my short range drone fitted domi primary target Please don't blame your chicken tactics on G. As usually BOB tries every trick in the book to win. Even if it's an exploit.
Shirei	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:08:00 - [230] So good target-calling is an exploit nowadays? Even in small battles without lag, targetting ships that warp back into the fight again is a good idea because - they probably warped out before, so they probably already have shield/armor damage - they are not aligned, so if you have enough firepower, you can kill them before they can warp back out - lag or no lag

Metal Dude	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:11:00 - [231] Edited by: Metal Dude on 29/05/2006 17:15:54 Such sore losers you are. I didn't see you all complain few days ago when we were lagged jumping in to your 150+ man fleet. How's that for lag? Get skills to fight or be quiet, but stop blaming and calling us exploiters because we beat you. It's not very hard, tbh. You guys are not very good and it shows. P.S. Ohh, and last time I checked 300 AU deep SS was an exploit. Did we exploit the game to kill you in that deep, exploit SS too, or did we just found it it one of your loot cans? The truth will set you free
Wuubaa	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:12:00 - [232] random blahblah about warping in from bitter people Not our fault you have poor fleet organization and had to warp right into the middle of a fleet battle.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:13:00 - [233] Originally by: Cyleth Cyleth Black Nova Corp Omg, why Nubleth, why? --------------------------------
slip66	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:14:00 - [234] Originally by: StarFoox Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Aves Originally by: Darpz Edit Damn I was unpopular I was primary on comming out of warp Edit * This was a BoB 'tactic' they applied. Knowing people would lag for a minute on warping back in, it gave them time to pop the ship without it having any chance. Nice going, BOB. /me pukes It's actually a trick we learnt from fighting [G]. It's also something we learnt to counter, fighting [G]. Try not to be so bitter. I was really late jumping in when doing the fleet battle in 9CG. And of course BOB used this chicken tactics. While my computer where loading all the graphics i was already into structure. They made my short range drone fitted domi primary target Please don't blame your chicken tactics on G. As usually BOB tries every trick in the book to win. Even if it's an exploit. We knew you were coming to the fight and we stopped shooting Xirt mid fire just to wait for you in your close range domi. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:22:00 - [235] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Cyleth Cyleth Black Nova Corp Omg, why Nubleth, why? ...because of the sekrit recipe!! Now gimme Crean!! Eve Blacklight Style
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:23:00 - [236] The big fight sucked soo bad. I'm just happy I didn't crash, and could warp out enough times to stay alive cause past experience has shown me it could have been much worse. I don't know what is wrong with you people that say "I don't care who won, this is what I play eve for!!". Are you stupid? Sitting around in local for half a day, hoping one side makes the first move.. until finally the system reaches critical mass where niether side has reinforcements left to call on - and a laggy cluster**** ensues. You must still be delusional newbies, experiencing their first fleet battle to find something like that "fun". Trust me, the novelty of it will die pretty quickly, and with it your coalition. The only reason BoB gets itself into situations like that is to kill you and win, irregardless of server lag. People in my gang have vastly greater experience in dealing with such crappy pvp than myself, and that only motivates me to suck it up. Meanwhile, half your gang is experiencing large scale operations for the first time and you'll be lucky if half remain active within the next 30 days. Querious will be ours in the end, because your coalition of dead alliances has no stamina for long term warfare individually, and much less as a group. Thats why you're 'dead alliances', you've given up on the only reason to form an alliance in the game, and left for various parts of EVE which are riddled with npc stations. Now you want to undo all that, ignoring the last year you've all spent sitting around doing nothing while real powers gain experience at this sort of thing. Yeah, what-ev. Sounds like Xirtspar is trying to raise his willy one last time, before resorting to V in the oatmeal. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:30:00 - [237] Originally by: StarFoox As usually BOB tries every trick in the book to win. Even if it's an exploit. Of all the people BoB ever fought, I think that it's safe to say that you bunch are the lamest, sorriest, excuse of ambitious nubs ever. Not only do you suck, but all of a sudden we are exploiters and GM's because you do. Get a grip.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:32:00 - [238] Originally by: StarFoox Please don't blame your chicken tactics on G. As usually BOB tries every trick in the book to win. Even if it's an exploit. hahahaha, our target calling really is first class. At this time the entire game is laughing directly in your face. You're saying this is an exploit? To call a target that just warps DIRECTLY in to the firing line? Let me say that this is down to YOUR poor tactics, YOUR poor organisation and YOUR pathetic need to pass the blame for YOUR failures on to others. You got schooled, fair and square. You know the reason we do it now? Because it's damned effective. We fought [G] and we evoloved our tactics to include some really, really good tactics. We stole them. They deserve every credit for them. And I can guarentee that Cmdr Woodlouse and co have done exactly the same thing with our tactics. Try watching what we do, there is no shame in copying superior tactics.
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:32:00 - [239] Originally by: StarFoox I was really late jumping in when doing the fleet battle in 9CG. And of course BOB used this chicken tactics. While my computer where loading all the graphics i was already into structure. They made my short range drone fitted domi primary target Please don't blame your chicken tactics on G. As usually BOB tries every trick in the book to win. Even if it's an exploit. Ill just nominate this as the dumbest Reply Of the year. Exploits?? jezz snip Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:34:00 - [240] pfft, rkk stole our target calling tactics from biomass not g :p dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:38:00 - [241] Originally by: DB Preacher pfft, rkk stole our target calling tactics from biomass not g :p dbp I stole them from [g] :p
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:39:00 - [242] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: DB Preacher pfft, rkk stole our target calling tactics from biomass not g :p dbp I stole them from [g] :p You always were a bit slow. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Icomeinpeace	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:40:00 - [243] So this so called coalition waits ALL DAY to gather almost twice our numbers @ aprox 200 ppl and then start complaining about lag... What do you expect,you sit around waiting to make the biggest blob you can before you even leave your pos.I myself couldnt activate any modules for the first 5-10 minutes of the fight and later couldnt issue any warp commands resulting in my death, did i send a petition?No.So if you guys are gona hide all day long until you get enough ppl pls don't complain about the lag. Oh and get off our land!!!
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:43:00 - [244] Errrm i thought we stole target calling from you? You stole our tempest concept --------------------------------
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:44:00 - [245] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: DB Preacher pfft, rkk stole our target calling tactics from biomass not g :p dbp I stole them from [g] :p You always were a bit slow. dbp At least people understand me, Jock boy.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:45:00 - [246] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Errrm i thought we stole target calling from you? You stole our tempest concept .....and the ultimate conspiracy is revealed.. BoB are G and G are BoB.. are tactics are as one ! Woody you h4xing spl0iter you! Eve Blacklight Style
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:45:00 - [247] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Errrm i thought we stole target calling from you? You stole our tempest concept It's just a great circle of tactical brilliance, woodie ;)
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:46:00 - [248] Im really confused now scratches head /emote gets his tinfoil hat... --------------------------------
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:46:00 - [249] Both are noobs. Darko rules! Clearly. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Coranor	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:49:00 - [250] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Errrm i thought we stole target calling from you? You stole our tempest concept All your tempests are belong to us. --------------

Ethan Tomlinson	Posted - 2006.05.29 17:50:00 - [251] Digitalcommunist, what u say may be true. Im sure half of our forces are fairly new to fleet battles save the old SA, CA and Xetic guys. Your right after loosing a few battles they will get pretty fed up with the lameness of the whole lagfest fleet battle concept and probably end up leaving the coalition or just not being active anymore. I can assure you that even if some people do leave they will join another alliance and the coalition will continue to fight you and the more pompous and annoying you become the more and more alliance that will go against you until pretty much it will be all of eve against you and u will die someday and it will be due to internal seperation caused by stress put on your alliance by the rest of eve.
StarFoox	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:06:00 - [252] Edited by: StarFoox on 29/05/2006 18:08:09 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: StarFoox Please don't blame your chicken tactics on G. As usually BOB tries every trick in the book to win. Even if it's an exploit. hahahaha, our target calling really is first class. At this time the entire game is laughing directly in your face. You're saying this is an exploit? To call a target that just warps DIRECTLY in to the firing line? Let me say that this is down to YOUR poor tactics, YOUR poor organisation and YOUR pathetic need to pass the blame for YOUR failures on to others. You got schooled, fair and square. You know the reason we do it now? Because it's damned effective. We fought [G] and we evoloved our tactics to include some really, really good tactics. We stole them. They deserve every credit for them. And I can guarentee that Cmdr Woodlouse and co have done exactly the same thing with our tactics. Try watching what we do, there is no shame in copying superior tactics. When 20 BOB answers one post you know you hit something sensitive :D Of course it's an exploit. Or do you mean that being able to target and kill someone while that persons client is loading the graphics is a feature? You dumb a.... Quote: Try watching what we do, there is no shame in copying superior tactics. Bla bla bla ... yeah yeah
MortyM	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:08:00 - [253] Originally by: StarFoox Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: StarFoox Please don't blame your chicken tactics on G. As usually BOB tries every trick in the book to win. Even if it's an exploit. hahahaha, our target calling really is first class. At this time the entire game is laughing directly in your face. You're saying this is an exploit? To call a target that just warps DIRECTLY in to the firing line? Let me say that this is down to YOUR poor tactics, YOUR poor organisation and YOUR pathetic need to pass the blame for YOUR failures on to others. You got schooled, fair and square. You know the reason we do it now? Because it's damned effective. We fought [G] and we evoloved our tactics to include some really, really good tactics. We stole them. They deserve every credit for them. And I can guarentee that Cmdr Woodlouse and co have done exactly the same thing with our tactics. Try watching what we do, there is no shame in copying superior tactics. When 20 BOB answers one post you know you hit something sensitive :D Of course it's an exploit. Or do you mean that being able to target and kill someone while that persons client is loading the graphics is a feature? You dumb a.... Then petition it please.
Morris Falter	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:10:00 - [254] The war is far from over.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:12:00 - [255] Originally by: StarFoox Of course it's an exploit. Nope, incorrect. I'd call you a liar, but I actually think you're just ignorant.
Cyleth	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:16:00 - [256] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Im really confused now scratches head /emote gets his tinfoil hat... It's ok Woody, I'll still hold your hand. <3
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:25:00 - [257] the info that concerns me most atm is how many [coda] bs were lost to their own pos today? i saw 2 go down FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA
Cohkka	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:31:00 - [258] The tactic of calling the ones as targets who just warped into the fight is nothing new. I remember using it and I remember loosing my BS shortly after a warpin. Get over it, that's how gamemechanics work.
BadManEdmundo	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:34:00 - [259] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii the info that concerns me most atm is how many [coda] bs were lost to their own pos today? i saw 2 go down oh and a zealot now too I prefer the super bumps, I think I saw that Revalation go over a 150k, what, twice?
Bozse	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:41:00 - [260] Originally by: StarFoox Of course it's an exploit. It's not an exploit untill the GM's answer your petition and says that it is, u may have the opinion that it shuld be an exploit but i doubt the GM's / Devs want u to decide if it is or not for them. btw. i found this in a hangar u seem to need it

Cuebick	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:59:00 - [261] I had kinda fun last night, being a part of that huge engagement as really nice, tho the numbers say bob wtfomgpwnd us. Consirning bob's forum brigade, I've lost 90% of my respect to you but that hardly makes any difference I still luv the Rough-Necks.inc crew! I had to resize my sig
Bozse	Posted - 2006.05.29 19:12:00 - [262] Originally by: StarFoox Of course it's an exploit. It's not an exploit untill the GM's answer your petition and says that it is, u may have the opinion that it shuld be an exploit but i doubt the GM's / Devs want u to decide if it is or not for them.
Carth Jared	Posted - 2006.05.29 20:05:00 - [263] Whats hardest to kill: A fully aligned battleship or one that has just come out of warp and needs to line up first? Not to hard to figure out aye? Now i cant answer for every FC in bob but i believe most of them are calling battleships warpin into the battle as they are easier targets because of the need to line up again and NOT because they will be lagged out. My tree fitty :\|
Hey You	Posted - 2006.05.29 20:13:00 - [264] Originally by: DigitalCommunist The big fight sucked soo bad. I'm just happy I didn't crash, and could warp out enough times to stay alive cause past experience has shown me it could have been much worse. I don't know what is wrong with you people that say "I don't care who won, this is what I play eve for!!". Are you stupid? Sitting around in local for half a day, hoping one side makes the first move.. until finally the system reaches critical mass where niether side has reinforcements left to call on - and a laggy cluster**** ensues. You must still be delusional newbies, experiencing their first fleet battle to find something like that "fun". Trust me, the novelty of it will die pretty quickly, and with it your coalition. The only reason BoB gets itself into situations like that is to kill you and win, irregardless of server lag. People in my gang have vastly greater experience in dealing with such crappy pvp than myself, and that only motivates me to suck it up. Meanwhile, half your gang is experiencing large scale operations for the first time and you'll be lucky if half remain active within the next 30 days. Querious will be ours in the end, because your coalition of dead alliances has no stamina for long term warfare individually, and much less as a group. Thats why you're 'dead alliances', you've given up on the only reason to form an alliance in the game, and left for various parts of EVE which are riddled with npc stations. Now you want to undo all that, ignoring the last year you've all spent sitting around doing nothing while real powers gain experience at this sort of thing. Yeah, what-ev. Sounds like Xirtspar is trying to raise his willy one last time, before resorting to V in the oatmeal. While I agree with you somewhat, this is a prime example of why many people don't like BoB. Showing some respect, instead of just bashing them, would go a long way. Maybe TWD will understand why there's alot of hate for BoB after he reads your post. ------------------------------
Rael Anshak	Posted - 2006.05.29 20:37:00 - [265] Originally by: Hey You Originally by: DigitalCommunist The big fight sucked soo bad. I'm just happy I didn't crash, and could warp out enough times to stay alive cause past experience has shown me it could have been much worse. I don't know what is wrong with you people that say "I don't care who won, this is what I play eve for!!". Are you stupid? Sitting around in local for half a day, hoping one side makes the first move.. until finally the system reaches critical mass where niether side has reinforcements left to call on - and a laggy cluster**** ensues. You must still be delusional newbies, experiencing their first fleet battle to find something like that "fun". Trust me, the novelty of it will die pretty quickly, and with it your coalition. The only reason BoB gets itself into situations like that is to kill you and win, irregardless of server lag. People in my gang have vastly greater experience in dealing with such crappy pvp than myself, and that only motivates me to suck it up. Meanwhile, half your gang is experiencing large scale operations for the first time and you'll be lucky if half remain active within the next 30 days. Querious will be ours in the end, because your coalition of dead alliances has no stamina for long term warfare individually, and much less as a group. Thats why you're 'dead alliances', you've given up on the only reason to form an alliance in the game, and left for various parts of EVE which are riddled with npc stations. Now you want to undo all that, ignoring the last year you've all spent sitting around doing nothing while real powers gain experience at this sort of thing. Yeah, what-ev. Sounds like Xirtspar is trying to raise his willy one last time, before resorting to V in the oatmeal. While I agree with you somewhat, this is a prime example of why many people don't like BoB. Showing some respect, instead of just bashing them, would go a long way. Maybe TWD will understand why there's alot of hate for BoB after he reads your post. We give respect where its deserved. Look at all the jokin around between ourselves and G and stealing tactics, its because we respect them and they're tactics. CODA has done nothing to earn our respect. I'm sorry but I don't respect hiding in NPC stations, using warp cores as much as possible, and only engaging when the situation seems absolutely winnable and still losing. Have some balls, get our respect. Make urself look like tards and you'll be treated as such.
Hey You	Posted - 2006.05.29 20:48:00 - [266] Originally by: Rael Anshak Originally by: Hey You Originally by: DigitalCommunist The big fight sucked soo bad. I'm just happy I didn't crash, and could warp out enough times to stay alive cause past experience has shown me it could have been much worse. I don't know what is wrong with you people that say "I don't care who won, this is what I play eve for!!". Are you stupid? Sitting around in local for half a day, hoping one side makes the first move.. until finally the system reaches critical mass where niether side has reinforcements left to call on - and a laggy cluster**** ensues. You must still be delusional newbies, experiencing their first fleet battle to find something like that "fun". Trust me, the novelty of it will die pretty quickly, and with it your coalition. The only reason BoB gets itself into situations like that is to kill you and win, irregardless of server lag. People in my gang have vastly greater experience in dealing with such crappy pvp than myself, and that only motivates me to suck it up. Meanwhile, half your gang is experiencing large scale operations for the first time and you'll be lucky if half remain active within the next 30 days. Querious will be ours in the end, because your coalition of dead alliances has no stamina for long term warfare individually, and much less as a group. Thats why you're 'dead alliances', you've given up on the only reason to form an alliance in the game, and left for various parts of EVE which are riddled with npc stations. Now you want to undo all that, ignoring the last year you've all spent sitting around doing nothing while real powers gain experience at this sort of thing. Yeah, what-ev. Sounds like Xirtspar is trying to raise his willy one last time, before resorting to V in the oatmeal. While I agree with you somewhat, this is a prime example of why many people don't like BoB. Showing some respect, instead of just bashing them, would go a long way. Maybe TWD will understand why there's alot of hate for BoB after he reads your post. We give respect where its deserved. Look at all the jokin around between ourselves and G and stealing tactics, its because we respect them and they're tactics. CODA has done nothing to earn our respect. I'm sorry but I don't respect hiding in NPC stations, using warp cores as much as possible, and only engaging when the situation seems absolutely winnable and still losing. Have some balls, get our respect. Make urself look like tards and you'll be treated as such. I agree with you on that, yes, but I was merely pointing out that is is often percieved as senseless bashing/flaming. Many would prefer that you would just say GF, even if you don't mean it. That's what many do. ------------------------------
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:02:00 - [267] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 29/05/2006 18:29:44 the info that concerns me most atm is how many [coda] bs were lost to their own pos today? i saw 2 go down oh and a zealot now too Are you actually proud of using spys to mess with pos?
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:10:00 - [268] Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 29/05/2006 18:29:44 the info that concerns me most atm is how many [coda] bs were lost to their own pos today? i saw 2 go down oh and a zealot now too Are you actually proud of using spys to mess with pos? why shouldnt he if it was actually bob spys creating the mess ? undercover operatives and special operations are as much part of the game as mining is, so why be ashamed about a sucessfull coup ? p.s. spys and doubleagents are used by all factions, coming out blaming somoeone who was successfull with it and crying foul seems abit hypocritical if not stupid.
Hey You	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:13:00 - [269] Wait, so BoB spies turn a POS against CODA, and CODA lost 2 BSes? ------------------------------
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:17:00 - [270] Originally by: Hey You Wait, so BoB spies turn a POS against CODA, and CODA lost 2 BSes? I believe the dreadnaugh was also because of that

Mahrin Skel	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:19:00 - [271] Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 29/05/2006 18:29:44 the info that concerns me most atm is how many [coda] bs were lost to their own pos today? i saw 2 go down oh and a zealot now too Are you actually proud of using spys to mess with pos? Who needs spies? As we discovered when you sent a fleet of 60 down to try and clear our blockade in 3-F, all we had to do was side-step and watch your guys shoot up their own allies in the confusion, because standings weren't set properly for everyone. I find it much more believable that your POS shot up your own allies under those conditions, than that anyone messed with the POS or the standings thereof. Hell, if a spy was going to mess with it, they'd probably wait until you were all inside and set it to shoot at everyone, not just pick off a couple of ships. Of course, blaiming spies is probably easier than telling your allies they lost ships because you screwed up. Not to mention that your side can hardly claim clean hands on the spying thing. --Dave
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:24:00 - [272] Originally by: Rael Anshak CODA has done nothing to earn our respect. Many of the members have. One could ask the same as for BOB Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
Daxes	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:42:00 - [273] Originally by: Rael Anshak We give respect where its deserved. Look at all the jokin around between ourselves and G and stealing tactics, its because we respect them and they're tactics. CODA has done nothing to earn our respect. I'm sorry but I don't respect hiding in NPC stations, using warp cores as much as possible, and only engaging when the situation seems absolutely winnable and still losing. Have some balls, get our respect. Make urself look like tards and you'll be treated as such. and there are also ppl like me who could care less if BoB respects them or not and havent forgotten what happened in EC. Thats especially funny because BoB is now blaming this coalition for needing so many alliances to take on them, seems like someone forgot his actions in the past.
Alberta	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:52:00 - [274] Originally by: Daxes Originally by: Rael Anshak We give respect where its deserved. Look at all the jokin around between ourselves and G and stealing tactics, its because we respect them and they're tactics. CODA has done nothing to earn our respect. I'm sorry but I don't respect hiding in NPC stations, using warp cores as much as possible, and only engaging when the situation seems absolutely winnable and still losing. Have some balls, get our respect. Make urself look like tards and you'll be treated as such. and there are also ppl like me who could care less if BoB respects them or not and havent forgotten what happened in EC. Thats especially funny because BoB is now blaming this coalition for needing so many alliances to take on them, seems like someone forgot his actions in the past. Actually we've been having a go at them for using so many to take on FIX and still having the gall to complain about us coming in on the FIX side. My Thoughts on Game Balance
KSUDruid	Posted - 2006.05.29 21:54:00 - [275] Originally by: Daxes and there are also ppl like me who could care less if BoB respects them or not and havent forgotten what happened in EC. Thats especially funny because BoB is now blaming this coalition for needing so many alliances to take on them, seems like someone forgot his actions in the past. You guys keep point fingers back to OMG EC! OMG EC! - You seem to forget, there were TWO Alliances that worked together to get that done. BoB (evol, rkk, atuk, bnc) and ASCN (ddc, cls, edf, stk, corm, ect.. ) And just for obvious point out sakes, you brought FOUR Alliances against us (G, IRON, RAZOR and TRUST) in the particular operation that all you seem to claim was the precedence for the CODA. BoB & ASCN teamed up in EC-P8R because it was the Best way to get the job done. Could either of entity did it themselves? Probably.. it wouldn't have been nearly as effective or efficient though. CODA are teaming up because they are so horrible by themselves, it's the only way they can even attempt to fight. Could any of the entities accomplish it themselves? rofl, not in a million years. -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL10) Katana
Daxes	Posted - 2006.05.29 22:23:00 - [276] Originally by: KSUDruid Originally by: Daxes and there are also ppl like me who could care less if BoB respects them or not and havent forgotten what happened in EC. Thats especially funny because BoB is now blaming this coalition for needing so many alliances to take on them, seems like someone forgot his actions in the past. You guys keep point fingers back to OMG EC! OMG EC! - You seem to forget, there were TWO Alliances that worked together to get that done. BoB (evol, rkk, atuk, bnc) and ASCN (ddc, cls, edf, stk, corm, ect.. ) And just for obvious point out sakes, you brought FOUR Alliances against us (G, IRON, RAZOR and TRUST) in the particular operation that all you seem to claim was the precedence for the CODA. BoB & ASCN teamed up in EC-P8R because it was the Best way to get the job done. Could either of entity did it themselves? Probably.. it wouldn't have been nearly as effective or efficient though. CODA are teaming up because they are so horrible by themselves, it's the only way they can even attempt to fight. Could any of the entities accomplish it themselves? rofl, not in a million years. i dont even want to bring this EC discussion back but there were more alliances in EC than BoB and ASCN (and yes without BoB all those other alliances wouldnt have been able to do it) not to mention that the number of alliances is hardly what matters, its the number of active pilots and in the case of this coalition BoB/Fix are hardly as outnumbered as u make it look like (and tbh alliances like urs should be used to fight outnumbered so why make such a big fuss about it in every thread, its not like the coalition goes in every thread and says "buhuhu but bob has so much better pilots thats not fair"). Also if u keep talking in such a disrespectfull way of ur enemies ("they are terrible", "they are only dead alliances" and so on) then what else do u expect? U always told ur enemies that if they cant do it on their own they should team up and bring it and now that they did exactly this u are flaming them for doing it?
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.29 22:28:00 - [277] Originally by: Daxes Originally by: Rael Anshak We give respect where its deserved. Look at all the jokin around between ourselves and G and stealing tactics, its because we respect them and they're tactics. CODA has done nothing to earn our respect. I'm sorry but I don't respect hiding in NPC stations, using warp cores as much as possible, and only engaging when the situation seems absolutely winnable and still losing. Have some balls, get our respect. Make urself look like tards and you'll be treated as such. and there are also ppl like me who could care less if BoB respects them or not and havent forgotten what happened in EC. Thats especially funny because BoB is now blaming this coalition for needing so many alliances to take on them, seems like someone forgot his actions in the past. No, Daxes, we're not moaning about many alliances being needed, whatever gave you that idea? What we're laughing at is that all of these alliances gangbanged FIX, had a jolly old laugh about it... then we showed up. Let's just say the odds are more than even now, even if the numbers are not.
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:02:00 - [278] Smacktastic, well done on all sides. Can we get a vote bout who has the bigest e-peen now or do we need to discuss further about Molle beeing bored at uni , bout the Anti-BooB coalition beeing noobs, bout BoB beeing Xploiters. Btw i dont c this thread any different that the alt-started BoB threads. The context is as meaningless and the e-peen stroking frightening similar. Enjoy So Far So Good....So What
KSUDruid	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:05:00 - [279] Originally by: Daxes i dont even want to bring this EC discussion back but there were more alliances in EC than BoB and ASCN Who? C'mon, Put your money where your mouth is an tell me who else was involved. The BoB Corps of EVOL, BNC, RKK, and ATUK - and the ASCN corps of DDC, CLS, EDF, STK, CORM, EOG, VTIL, and a handful more I can't think of the top of my head. I know, because an old friend of mine from ASCN pitched the idea of the EC- invasion to me one night and I was one of the integral people in making it happen. We thought about inviting several other of the southern friendly entities, as well as other alliances ATUK was allied with in the north, but decided against it due to our own reasons. Would you have felt better if it really was the entire south against you? All we would have had to do was ask and the numbers we had in EC- could have easily been doubled on top of what they already were. It was unnessacery though.. we knew exactly what we were going to need to get the job done.. and Did. I haven't been involved too heavily in this current campaign do to real life issues, but I won't stand by and let you skew the facts of the EC-P8R operation, which you want to keep throwing in our face as OMG BOB TEH BLOBBERS!1111!!. You got beat in EC-P8R by better organization and tactics... the massive numbers were part of the master plan.. If we had just blobbed up without any plan we would have gotten owned... just like CODA is in 9CG at this moment. See the difference? -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL10) Katana
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:21:00 - [280] EC- is sooo couple of months old move on please. BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain

SirMolle	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:42:00 - [281] 1 day after. SMASH have left 9cg. IMP has left 9cg. VOX has left 9cg. HUZZAH are nowhere to be seen. SA have 10 pilots left in 9cg. VC have left 9cg. FA has left 9cg. The CODA POS's are reinforced. Station is held by FIX. 9cg has FIX sovereignity. Tune in next week, same channel, same time.
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:44:00 - [282] Originally by: Pyrotesea Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 29/05/2006 13:33:22 This post is awesome, i've missed high quality smack keep it comming :-/ Oh btw duke and thol, whats the score between u two? You had a chance to lead a fleet against one another yet? :) btw your on the wrong side HPLW come back to the dark side my friend Pyro \o/ I'm being held against my will by T-rex and Omaha, if you can rescue my blow up sheep dolly from their evil grasp then i'll be able to return to my dark chamber and go back to losing deimos and vaggies like their going out of fashion \o/. Seriously though mate, gl out there and to the rest of the gang, and to my friends of the other side. I said in another post its odd for me sitting on the fence in this one, and i looking at a few of the screenies in this post of the fleet fights im certainly gutted i aint there, ofc i don't miss the lag, but we have plenty of that in C-J :(. o/ slip btw :) Carrier & Fighter Sales
MinTol	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:45:00 - [283] Originally by: Daxes U always told ur enemies that if they cant do it on their own they should team up and bring it and now that they did exactly this u are flaming them for doing it? Ive been meaning to post this but was too lazy, so all i have to say is QFT. Originally by: Cavazos for your info i'm 12 but in history ihave the brain of a highschooler but then i don't look like a 12 year old cause i'm 5'9 and i'm a pure jock
MinTol	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:49:00 - [284] Originally by: Rael Anshak Originally by: MinTol Originally by: Daxes U always told ur enemies that if they cant do it on their own they should team up and bring it and now that they did exactly this u are flaming them for doing it? Ive been meaning to post this but was too lazy, so all i have to say is QFT. We arent flaming them for tryin, we're flaming them for failing so quick and miserably. You flamed them before the war started. Originally by: Cavazos for your info i'm 12 but in history ihave the brain of a highschooler but then i don't look like a 12 year old cause i'm 5'9 and i'm a pure jock
Rael Anshak	Posted - 2006.05.29 23:49:00 - [285] Originally by: MinTol Originally by: Daxes U always told ur enemies that if they cant do it on their own they should team up and bring it and now that they did exactly this u are flaming them for doing it? Ive been meaning to post this but was too lazy, so all i have to say is QFT. We arent flaming them for tryin, we're flaming them for failing so quick and miserably.
Rael Anshak	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:00:00 - [286] Before coda was formed, all we wanted was a fight. A formidable foe, so we reset standings to encourage certain entities to work together towards a comman goal, us. It took them much longer than we expected to finally get the stones together. They get the stones to finally form coda and decide to bring it to us in 9cg. Hugely outnumbered we fight. Our kill/loss ratio is still positive even though our gangs of 60 are going up against gangs of 120-200. Then Dian loses his dread and the forums light up with coda members braggin, so we decide to bring the full forces of bob up against coda. 2 carrier kills, a dread kill, and several poses reinforced later 9cg becomes a very friendly system. So yes i'm a little upset. Not because it took them 7 alliances to bring it against 2. But becuase they failed so miserably.
MinTol	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:08:00 - [287] Originally by: Rael Anshak Before coda was formed, all we wanted was a fight. A formidable foe, so we reset standings to encourage certain entities to work together towards a comman goal, us. It took them much longer than we expected to finally get the stones together. They get the stones to finally form coda and decide to bring it to us in 9cg. Hugely outnumbered we fight. Our kill/loss ratio is still positive even though our gangs of 60 are going up against gangs of 120-200. Then Dian loses his dread and the forums light up with coda members braggin, so we decide to bring the full forces of bob up against coda. 2 carrier kills, a dread kill, and several poses reinforced later 9cg becomes a very friendly system. So yes i'm a little upset. Not because it took them 7 alliances to bring it against 2. But becuase they failed so miserably. 1. I barely noticed the coalition bragging about their kill, few responses in 1 thread or something. 2. I DID notice that you killed 2 carriers(Dian's thread) 3. If you want a good fight, go get it. There are plenty of alliances that can give you a good fight. BTW; If all you wanted was a fight, why go into a regional conflict. Originally by: Cavazos for your info i'm 12 but in history ihave the brain of a highschooler but then i don't look like a 12 year old cause i'm 5'9 and i'm a pure jock
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:10:00 - [288] Originally by: MinTol BTW; If all you wanted was a fight, why go into a regional conflict. because people usually fights when there is a region involved. Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
MinTol	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:14:00 - [289] Originally by: Hast Originally by: MinTol BTW; If all you wanted was a fight, why go into a regional conflict. because people usually fights when there is a region involved. SAvsCA ? Probably the longest lasting war in eve history and AFAIK wasnt about conquering regions. Originally by: Cavazos for your info i'm 12 but in history ihave the brain of a highschooler but then i don't look like a 12 year old cause i'm 5'9 and i'm a pure jock
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:28:00 - [290] Originally by: MinTol Originally by: Hast Originally by: MinTol BTW; If all you wanted was a fight, why go into a regional conflict. because people usually fights when there is a region involved. SAvsCA ? Probably the longest lasting war in eve history and AFAIK wasnt about conquering regions. I was in that war , the thing about those wars was that they didnt involve POS's at all. In the end there was no way of conquering territory, pretty much the same way that most npc regions where the big alliances of old thrived today are wastelands with several factions and neutrals running around. Also when it came to it, in the SA vs CA war there was a equilibrium between the two sides where noone got the upper hand for too long. Now EVE has changed, gone are the alliances of old. Alliances like CA, SA (you know damn well what I mean, SA died with Exodus and the fall of CA) FA, PA and so on. A few relics still go on, but mostly due to the fact that they arent big enough to warrant the attention of "the big boys." I'm thinking mostly along the lines of the syndicate alliances like 3FA. Have a look on the map and see how many alliances exist in the same form as they did pre exodus. none of the major ones, the ones that were named after the region they inhabited. Now, having the name of the region is no longer enough to claim it. You need staying power and economic backing. If you have too much deadweight you will in the end loose your balance and fall hard. I wont go into the start of the CA vs SA war since I wasnt even playing back then, but much of it stemmed from the C4 alliance, especially Omega corp when they were a member of stain. Back then Stain was a region rich on highend ore, the richest of them all. It was divided between the member corps and then OC got the short end of the stick or something. enter territorial war, one that almost wiped stain back then off the map. If you go back to the very start of the CA vs SA war you will see that territory was involved one way or another. I wont start dragging my post out more then I allready did. Mainly because I didnt play back then and I because of that havent got first hand information about what happened back then. Maybe some of the old MASS crew can enlighten you further about why the war started. I just shudder to the thought that Bared Bel'Medar start one of his rants about it But in all wars in EVE that has ever been fought, the majority of them had a foundation of territorial squabbles. Either in the form of Influence or in direct control. the early days of FA is a good example of wars fought over political influence over the CFS regions. I'm gonna stop my little rant/history lesson. P.S. I dont take any responsibility for any flaws in my post if it what I wrote about happened before february 2004 Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS

Hey You	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:32:00 - [291] Originally by: Hast Originally by: MinTol Originally by: Hast Originally by: MinTol BTW; If all you wanted was a fight, why go into a regional conflict. because people usually fights when there is a region involved. SAvsCA ? Probably the longest lasting war in eve history and AFAIK wasnt about conquering regions. Maybe some of the old MASS crew can enlighten you further about why the war started. I just shudder to the thought that Bared Bel'Medar start one of his rants about it Bared's a funny guy. ------------------------------
MinTol	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:37:00 - [292] Originally by: Hast Originally by: MinTol Originally by: Hast Originally by: MinTol BTW; If all you wanted was a fight, why go into a regional conflict. because people usually fights when there is a region involved. SAvsCA ? Probably the longest lasting war in eve history and AFAIK wasnt about conquering regions. I was in that war , the thing about those wars was that they didnt involve POS's at all. In the end there was no way of conquering territory, pretty much the same way that most npc regions where the big alliances of old thrived today are wastelands with several factions and neutrals running around. Also when it came to it, in the SA vs CA war there was a equilibrium between the two sides where noone got the upper hand for too long. Now EVE has changed, gone are the alliances of old. Alliances like CA, SA (you know damn well what I mean, SA died with Exodus and the fall of CA) FA, PA and so on. A few relics still go on, but mostly due to the fact that they arent big enough to warrant the attention of "the big boys." I'm thinking mostly along the lines of the syndicate alliances like 3FA. Have a look on the map and see how many alliances exist in the same form as they did pre exodus. none of the major ones, the ones that were named after the region they inhabited. Now, having the name of the region is no longer enough to claim it. You need staying power and economic backing. If you have too much deadweight you will in the end loose your balance and fall hard. I wont go into the start of the CA vs SA war since I wasnt even playing back then, but much of it stemmed from the C4 alliance, especially Omega corp when they were a member of stain. Back then Stain was a region rich on highend ore, the richest of them all. It was divided between the member corps and then OC got the short end of the stick or something. enter territorial war, one that almost wiped stain back then off the map. If you go back to the very start of the CA vs SA war you will see that territory was involved one way or another. I wont start dragging my post out more then I allready did. Mainly because I didnt play back then and I because of that havent got first hand information about what happened back then. Maybe some of the old MASS crew can enlighten you further about why the war started. I just shudder to the thought that Bared Bel'Medar start one of his rants about it But in all wars in EVE that has ever been fought, the majority of them had a foundation of territorial squabbles. Either in the form of Influence or in direct control. the early days of FA is a good example of wars fought over political influence over the CFS regions. I'm gonna stop my little rant/history lesson. P.S. I dont take any responsibility for any flaws in my post if it what I wrote about happened before february 2004 But whats stopping you from asking ASCN/D2/anyone to show up with a 60man fleet and fight to the last man in some previusly selected system just for the fun of it? I personally would enjoy those kind of fights but I dont know if hardcore pvpers would. I remember now when i read some old old thread about the start of CAvsSA war, had something to do with Everlasting Vendetta taking systems away from Omega and SA council not supporting Omega's claim to those systems ... or something like that. PS: going away now, might continue with this conversation tomorrow :) Originally by: Cavazos for your info i'm 12 but in history ihave the brain of a highschooler but then i don't look like a 12 year old cause i'm 5'9 and i'm a pure jock
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.30 00:57:00 - [293] Originally by: MinTol snip Feel free to continue this conversation with me We could have taken a roadtrip up to the northern regions, but why do that when you have the enemy knocking on your front door? This coalition was formed to end BoB's reign of terror as they put it. In my opinion fighting just for the sake of fighting gets old after a while. What makes this game so special is being able to set goals when it comes to territorial conquest and defeating your enemies. Also a reason I personally dont want to go north again is because what happened a couple of months ago was downright boring and hurtful to the game. The whole North VS South scenario. What you ended up with was almost like a cold war where you had to giant powerblocks staring eachother down not daring to make the first move. I know that alot of people on both sides agree with me on this and I hope that the leaders on both sides wont make the same mistake again. It is ofcourse cozy sitting in your region with the nearest enemy station 60 jumps away. But from a gameplay perspective it doesent make much sense. Mainly because EVE is a very big universe and travelling takes alot of time. The best time I had after the SA vs CA war, and possibly even including that was just after I joined ATUK/DICE and the events that transpired then. When I could pretty much go wherever I wanted and have very little blue. With regards to OC's break from the Stain alliance I do believe that is correct. In the end this game is mostly about shooting pixels and when the pixels are 10 billion other pixels away you usually end up bored Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
Avon	Posted - 2006.05.30 01:00:00 - [294] Edited by: Avon on 30/05/2006 01:00:46 Originally by: MinTol But whats stopping you from asking ASCN/D2/anyone to show up with a 60man fleet and fight to the last man in some previusly selected system just for the fun of it? I personally would enjoy those kind of fights but I dont know if hardcore pvpers would. Of course hardcore PvP'rs would love it ... which is why we have thinkers at the top stopping it from happening. Whilst we were off shooting each-other in a nowhereville skirmish, one side would be taking advantage of the other's perceived defensive weakness, or would at least be paranoid it was going to happen to them. Besides, you get to a point where PvP just for the sake of it is meaningless, pointless, and boring. You win, you get another tick on the killboard. You lose, you have some stuff to replace. Ultimately it doesn't really change very much, and gets dull. When you are fighting for something it is more fun. The personal wins and losses, when viewed in the perspective of the whole campaign, are far more significant, not just to you, but to the people around you. When Molle says 'we are going to do x', we go and do it. The steps taken to reach that objective are fun, but they pale in comparison to finally getting the job done. There is a pressure there. What you do DOES matter. The PvP is no longer meaningless. Higher stakes, bigger reward, more fun. I guess we are like junkies - every hit needs to be just that little bit bigger than the last one to maintain the high. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Audrea	Posted - 2006.05.30 03:49:00 - [295] Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 30/05/2006 01:00:46 Originally by: MinTol But whats stopping you from asking ASCN/D2/anyone to show up with a 60man fleet and fight to the last man in some previusly selected system just for the fun of it? I personally would enjoy those kind of fights but I dont know if hardcore pvpers would. Of course hardcore PvP'rs would love it ... which is why we have thinkers at the top stopping it from happening. Whilst we were off shooting each-other in a nowhereville skirmish, one side would be taking advantage of the other's perceived defensive weakness, or would at least be paranoid it was going to happen to them. Besides, you get to a point where PvP just for the sake of it is meaningless, pointless, and boring. You win, you get another tick on the killboard. You lose, you have some stuff to replace. Ultimately it doesn't really change very much, and gets dull. When you are fighting for something it is more fun. The personal wins and losses, when viewed in the perspective of the whole campaign, are far more significant, not just to you, but to the people around you. When Molle says 'we are going to do x', we go and do it. The steps taken to reach that objective are fun, but they pale in comparison to finally getting the job done. There is a pressure there. What you do DOES matter. The PvP is no longer meaningless. Higher stakes, bigger reward, more fun. I guess we are like junkies - every hit needs to be just that little bit bigger than the last one to maintain the high. I didnt read the thread for 1-2 days now since page 3.. posts appeared too fast for me. But read this last page, and I agree to you point of pvp being boring without purpose like for stations etc. The point is, holding them becomes logistical difficulty and no fun - fueling POS especially. Its a never ending job, boring and very tiresome. Those POS **** should be redone to be more enjoyable when the stations arent contested. That perhaps leads to the idea that POS shouldnt consume fuel when not contested? or something... then u need to work on logistics only when its contested? ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.05.30 04:21:00 - [296] Why is it that with every post you're singing the same old tune - its the game mechanics fault! Oh no, god forbid anything you do be considered hard and boring work. Logistics is the only thing keeping this game from degenerating into an FPS and if you can't handle that, you don't deserve to control space. Plain and simple. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Ashari an'Larcla	Posted - 2006.05.30 05:05:00 - [297] Originally by: local what happened to fix then? We ate them. Or something. But great question!
Marc Jade	Posted - 2006.05.30 05:20:00 - [298] I do have to admit that the framerates, lag, etc were HORRIBLE during our engagement against BoB. However, the fact of the matter is isn't the game mechanics, nor numbers, nor anything like that -- it was a few other things that I will not go into. But yes, the lagfest was wonderful to see. Now that I've said my piece about the lagfest that day, I do thank the BoB and FIX pilots with whom I fought for the wonderful PvP time that I had against you guys. I enjoy actually fighting someone instead of some of the other nameless corporations/alliances who tend to insta-dock.
Divine Devastation	Posted - 2006.05.30 05:50:00 - [299] What the hell has the fact that the pilots fighting in 9CG are in different formal ig alliances, if all those pilots were under the same banner would it change anything of the battle, other than reducing BOB's flame bait? It's completely irrelevant... I'm also surprised that BOB feel so proud of themselves, as far as I understand (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm right or not) the 'coalition' forces had been fighting in Querious for weeks on end and BOB choose to attack with an hour or two before they would of effectively taken Querious. I'll admit it was a good tactic but hardly worthy of the chest beating displayed here, perhaps if they had defended FIX from the start then they would have something to be proud about. I know your ego's are big gentleman but this 'coalition' was clearly not formed to 'take on BOB' and you took advantage of an easy situation.
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.05.30 05:58:00 - [300] Edited by: Ab Initio on 30/05/2006 06:02:55 Originally by: Divine Devastation I'm also surprised that BOB feel so proud of themselves, as far as I understand (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm right or not) the 'coalition' forces had been fighting in Querious for weeks on end and BOB choose to attack with an hour or two before they would of effectively taken Querious. I'll admit it was a good tactic but hardly worthy of the chest beating displayed here, perhaps if they had defended FIX from the start then they would have something to be proud about. I know your ego's are big gentleman but this 'coalition' was clearly not formed to 'take on BOB' and you took advantage of an easy situation. Perhaps you missed Xirts thread? As for the rest of your post, how would you go about fighting an enemy that has no territory to defend, and is able to escape to empire and NPC stations when required? You wait for them to take territory, and then force them to defend it. EDIT: Added link.

hangovur	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:07:00 - [301] Originally by: Divine Devastation What the hell has the fact that the pilots fighting in 9CG are in different formal ig alliances, if all those pilots were under the same banner would it change anything of the battle, other than reducing BOB's flame bait? It's completely irrelevant... I'm also surprised that BOB feel so proud of themselves, as far as I understand (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm right or not) the 'coalition' forces had been fighting in Querious for weeks on end and BOB choose to attack with an hour or two before they would of effectively taken Querious. I'll admit it was a good tactic but hardly worthy of the chest beating displayed here, perhaps if they had defended FIX from the start then they would have something to be proud about. I know your ego's are big gentleman but this 'coalition' was clearly not formed to 'take on BOB' and you took advantage of an easy situation. im sorry, maybe i missed something..... what about this was easy? we came into 9cg when CODA were the strongest and took the system from them. we jumped a 100 man BS fleet into a 200 man hostile fleet knowing we were heavily outnumbered, knowing we would likely lag out much worse than them because we were jumping in and knowing that most other people in eve would never do that. from that point on we have been fighting CODA with them having much higher numbers in almost every engagement. now i dont say this because i want to wine, but you cant say we came in and took it when it was easy. i mean, just look at each sides killboards and you will see the results. even if you dont like BoB, you cant say we took the easy way out.
Red Six	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:15:00 - [302] Originally by: Divine Devastation What the hell has the fact that the pilots fighting in 9CG are in different formal ig alliances, if all those pilots were under the same banner would it change anything of the battle, other than reducing BOB's flame bait? It's completely irrelevant... I'm also surprised that BOB feel so proud of themselves, as far as I understand (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm right or not) the 'coalition' forces had been fighting in Querious for weeks on end and BOB choose to attack with an hour or two before they would of effectively taken Querious. I'll admit it was a good tactic but hardly worthy of the chest beating displayed here, perhaps if they had defended FIX from the start then they would have something to be proud about. I know your ego's are big gentleman but this 'coalition' was clearly not formed to 'take on BOB' and you took advantage of an easy situation. Well Ms. Divine, let me express it this way. If they had been in one alliance they'd have been used to each other's styles of play and been more used to working together. Two, their own POS's wouldn't have shot something around 5 or 6 of their own ships and resulted in one more being stuck outside the shields while we warped in to kill it. Three, they probably would have made an effort to defend their POS which oh by the way one is now gone, it had a pretty explosion, and the other is reinforced. Right now the view from 9CG is that of BoB and FIX controlling the system with a few others trying to get out with their gear. CODA forces are leaving 9CG it appears. It hasn't been a good a weekend for them. A quick count shows CODA force losing close to 100 BS this weekend plus more support. Our losses were less than half that. We salvaged a BoB and several FIX POS that by all rights if numbers meant anything should have been destroyed by CODA forces. They didn't accomplish it. In fact FIX now has sovreignity(sp?) of 9CG and the station. SMASH had it for a while there but even then they didn't/couldn't, honestly not sure which or why, couldn't take the station. Even after weeks of fighting the coalition is that a loose coalition of alliances, not an alliance with a single minded goal and effort. Xirtam called us out. He got his wish. Is it over, probably not. Does it matter, in the end, not really. Both sides will fight and one side will win and the other lose. Personally, I know whom I am betting on though. To all those that actually fought this weekend, good show. The waiting around was boring as hell but the fights, minus the big lag one, were fun as hell. Hopefully you all had fun too. From what I understand though the real winners this weekend were the market producers in Agil. One of our guys popped in to look and the market had been picked fairly clean.
Divine Devastation	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:46:00 - [303] Edited by: Divine Devastation on 30/05/2006 06:47:39 I'm not so sure I can hold a practical discussion with you gentleman, it seems that you have a unique talent for avoiding the often obvious point. The most relevant comment here I think was from Ab Initio: "As for the rest of your post, how would you go about fighting an enemy that has no territory to defend, and is able to escape to empire and NPC stations when required?" Now as I understood it BOB was declaring on EVE and had no intention of isolating one corp/alliance for postive or negative standings. However this post clearly references a specific enemy who has no territory and operates within NPC stations. I'm aware of only one alliance that has both these attributes, so are you really saying that BOB's enemy is SA and that is why all of the song and dance? I think its pretty safe to say that FIX haven't been fighting anyone recently, although I must say it is out of character for you gentleman to give credit where it's due let alone not :)
Imode	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:50:00 - [304] What?! Internal struggles don't count as fighting anymore?! ____________________________ Signature file size to large, please keep it under 24000 bytes - Petwraith How's this? -imo
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:55:00 - [305] Originally by: KSUDruid You got beat in EC-P8R by better organization and tactics... the massive numbers were part of the master plan.. A lot of Trust posses got owned. Nothing more. And u are still pulling this bullcrap out of ur a$$ --------------------------------
Divine Devastation	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:56:00 - [306] Imode, well done for taking a smile from this situation and its good to see an honest post for a change :)
Mahrin Skel	Posted - 2006.05.30 07:01:00 - [307] I'd suggest you'd take a look at our KB. We've been fighting all week, although nearly all of our 9CG kills were from the POS's. We had two Empire Wars going (both against CODA members), and when things would get going in 9CG we'd generally park a gang in 3-F and pick off the stragglers (all CODA, BOB wasn't using that route). After 6 months of war and over a month of non-stop combat, we were tired. And broke. So we carebeared it hardcore, raided Catch, interdicted 3-F, pursued our empire wars, and generally stayed out of the way of 9CG, because there was no point in ganging together and going somewhere that everyone was going to shoot at us, and we'd be outnumbered 10 to 1. --Dave
ph33rf4ct0ry	Posted - 2006.05.30 07:02:00 - [308] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: KSUDruid You got beat in EC-P8R by better organization and tactics... the massive numbers were part of the master plan.. A lot of Trust posses got owned. Nothing more. And u are still pulling this bullcrap out of ur a$$ Stop being bitter and go NAP someone Member of the POST WITH YOUR MAIN SOCIETY
Lungorthin	Posted - 2006.05.30 07:17:00 - [309] It is my most sincere hope that the coalition can regroup, reorganize and if possible find more allies to try again to step on BoB's toes. I am looking forward to be on the defending side for once :)
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.30 07:17:00 - [310] Elve, I told you to come and check at the end of your exams. We didn't even get that far All too easy. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Helmut 314	Posted - 2006.05.30 07:43:00 - [311] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Why is it that with every post you're singing the same old tune - its the game mechanics fault! Oh no, god forbid anything you do be considered hard and boring work. Logistics is the only thing keeping this game from degenerating into an FPS and if you can't handle that, you don't deserve to control space. Plain and simple. Very true. Now if we only could get some decent Q-ships JHENR is recruiting. __________________________________ Trying is the first step of failure - Homer J Simpson
Divine Devastation	Posted - 2006.05.30 07:58:00 - [312] Longorthin, no offence honey but I don't think defence is your strong point, of course there's the school of 'attack is the best form of defence' but in reality we all realise that defence by definition is more worthy a challenge than attack. However I do applaud your propaganda capabilities although I think perhaps you should muzzle some of your younger forum posters. but since my other BOB comrades have jolted my question, perhaps you can confirm that in fact SA was the enemy you were refering to (or perhaps inform me of another alliance with those attributes), perhaps an empire war dec would therefore achieve your objective?
Drilla	Posted - 2006.05.30 08:52:00 - [313] Diana owes me an Armageddon Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.30 09:01:00 - [314] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 30/05/2006 09:04:04 Originally by: Divine Devastation Longorthin, no offence honey but I don't think defence is your strong point, of course there's the school of 'attack is the best form of defence' but in reality we all realise that defence by definition is more worthy a challenge than attack. We've been asking people to come try us. How can we ever test the truth when noone will ? Quote: but since my other BOB comrades have jolted my question, perhaps you can confirm that in fact SA was the enemy you were refering to (or perhaps inform me of another alliance with those attributes), perhaps an empire war dec would therefore achieve your objective? Neither SA, VC, FA, smash, vox or IMP own stations or had notable interests in 0.0 space that they'll defend to my knowledge. The reference was not that our standing reset in some way meant we would be shooting these alliances over all others. It was to the fact that the forming of their coalition gave us an opportunity to let them take something they subsequenty would need to defend, forcing them into a head on confrontation. Old blog
Gyro DuAquin1	Posted - 2006.05.30 09:11:00 - [315] Well this post gets intresting in four weeks when we see who woulds q then: if its bob, well the coda got ownd bigtime if its coda, it will be intresting Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: KSUDruid You got beat in EC-P8R by better organization and tactics... the massive numbers were part of the master plan.. A lot of Trust posses got owned. Nothing more. And u are still pulling this bullcrap out of ur a$$ Stop being bitter and go NAP someone well tbh woody u forgot ascn gang that got owned, anyway ec- showed how easy it is to conquer a station, just got in the system with 300+ ppl, anchor bubbels and go afk, dont forget to login back after dt. Even a monkey could do that, good job, i guess was a pure blast do watch the bubbels.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.30 09:21:00 - [316] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 well tbh woody u forgot ascn gang that got owned, anyway ec- showed how easy it is to conquer a station, just got in the system with 300+ ppl, anchor bubbels and go afk, dont forget to login back after dt. Even a monkey could do that, good job, i guess was a pure blast do watch the bubbels. umm That's what coda tried to do down here. We dealt with it and kicked them out, you didn't. There is a very big difference. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.05.30 09:27:00 - [317] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 well tbh woody u forgot ascn gang that got owned, anyway ec- showed how easy it is to conquer a station, just got in the system with 300+ ppl, anchor bubbels and go afk, dont forget to login back after dt. Even a monkey could do that, good job, i guess was a pure blast do watch the bubbels. EC also showed How bitter ppl get when some does something out of the ordinary... all the EC moaning is getting old. snip Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.30 11:27:00 - [318] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 30/05/2006 11:28:28 Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 well tbh woody u forgot ascn gang that got owned, anyway ec- showed how easy it is to conquer a station, just got in the system with 300+ ppl, anchor bubbels and go afk, dont forget to login back after dt. Even a monkey could do that, good job, i guess was a pure blast do watch the bubbels. EC also showed How bitter ppl get when some does something out of the ordinary... all the EC moaning is getting old. when u blob with the rest of the south and over 800 ppl u have to live with the moanings, especially when ur alliance cries on every opportunity on the forums how much of a fight it wants all the time. simple as that. @Gyro: ignore pheersomething, hes a fanboi-alt. --------------------------------
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.05.30 11:49:00 - [319] BOBs increased forum activity on a generalistic term is showing some pressure from the constant warfare but they appear to be holding thier own. What other alliacnes or pirate organisations are now capable of going after em ?
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.05.30 11:50:00 - [320] the average number of our gang in ec was around 200 ;), i find it amusing when ppl say bob takes it the easy way, ppl that join bob play eve on easy mode.. we fight so many factions, way, WAY more often outnumbered and still ppl say we can only blob and blabla. and some wonder why we respond to this threads like this, when such a bs over and over again? - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.

Kraph Kreyghal	Posted - 2006.05.30 11:51:00 - [321] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 30/05/2006 11:28:28 Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 well tbh woody u forgot ascn gang that got owned, anyway ec- showed how easy it is to conquer a station, just got in the system with 300+ ppl, anchor bubbels and go afk, dont forget to login back after dt. Even a monkey could do that, good job, i guess was a pure blast do watch the bubbels. EC also showed How bitter ppl get when some does something out of the ordinary... all the EC moaning is getting old. when u blob with the rest of the south and over 800 ppl u have to live with the moanings, especially when ur alliance cries on every opportunity on the forums how much of a fight it wants all the time. simple as that. @Gyro: ignore pheersomething, hes a fanboi-alt. So it was 800+ now? I was there, and i never saw these 800 ppl you talk about. I saw maximum of 600 one night. The rest of the time they were way below that. And btw, how would you know, you guys gave up after a few attempts. You had lots of allies up in the north at the time. It was your own incompotance that made you give up that soon. If the roles were reversed, you'd see attemts to retake the system till the last pos went down. And don't talk about blobbing. Cause before EC, whenever we came up north, G - IRON++ would always outblob us. I never saw a major battle where we outnumbered you guys.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.05.30 11:55:00 - [322] Originally by: Kraph Kreyghal So it was 800+ now? By the time you finished writing that, it was 1000. Next week they'll be talking about thousands. Soon well have people knowing for the fact that it was 30.000 ppl in EC- at the time, even tho official server record was 25.000 or something. Go figure.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.30 11:58:00 - [323] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 well tbh woody u forgot ascn gang that got owned, anyway ec- showed how easy it is to conquer a station, just got in the system with 300+ ppl, anchor bubbels and go afk, dont forget to login back after dt. Even a monkey could do that, good job, i guess was a pure blast do watch the bubbels. umm That's what coda tried to do down here. We dealt with it and kicked them out, you didn't. There is a very big difference. dbp Tottally different situation. I doubt coda had ANYWHERE near the ammount you guys had when you to EC. Also, 9CG is not 1 jump away from a busy empire system where you can get reinforcements and new ships very quickly (Not that you needed them). Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Ilmonstre	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:03:00 - [324] darko now dont you go saying 9cg is deeeeep in 0.0 becouse thats not even close to the truth
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:04:00 - [325] Originally by: Ilmonstre darko now dont you go saying 9cg is deeeeep in 0.0 becouse thats not even close to the truth I didnt say that! Just alot more deep than ec ;) Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Entilzah Valen	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:06:00 - [326] 2 Routes in, 6 jumps from empire, one route 1 system shorter, the other route 1 system longer, but shorter AU wise. 1 Dead End system. 1 Route leading South. 9 Medium Bubbles on the 3 important gates shoulda done the trick. ____________________________
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:23:00 - [327] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/05/2006 12:24:15 Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 well tbh woody u forgot ascn gang that got owned, anyway ec- showed how easy it is to conquer a station, just got in the system with 300+ ppl, anchor bubbels and go afk, dont forget to login back after dt. Even a monkey could do that, good job, i guess was a pure blast do watch the bubbels. umm That's what coda tried to do down here. We dealt with it and kicked them out, you didn't. There is a very big difference. dbp Tottally different situation. I doubt coda had ANYWHERE near the ammount you guys had when you to EC. Also, 9CG is not 1 jump away from a busy empire system where you can get reinforcements and new ships very quickly (Not that you needed them). The point is, we told you that when it happened to us we wouldn't hesitate to get into the system and ** with the opposition till they broke. The EC- situation was a let-down for me because the opposition didn't even try. But I'm not going to keep going on about this here because I simply don't care about the whining from the north. I know we would have done more, this weekend was testament to what we can do against a highly motivated, large numbers group of players. People can pretend the numbers weren't as large as EC- and they can continue to now say "ah but it's just a bunch of newbs you've gone up against". I don't care. The fact of this was that the leaders of the BoB saw, for the first time, what we are capable of with the introduction of Capital Ships and without having lag completely destroy gameplay by simply not loading at all (as was the case in ju-). Keep arguing all you want, I'm VERY happy with how things went. We have seen where we need improvements and we will go from here to become even stronger. BoB has miles to go before it is even close to being where I personally want it to be. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto**
Silvero	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:25:00 - [328] Edited by: Silvero on 30/05/2006 12:26:09 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse when u blob with the rest of the south and over 800 ppl u have to live with the moanings, especially when ur alliance cries on every opportunity on the forums how much of a fight it wants all the time. simple as that. @Gyro: ignore pheersomething, hes a fanboi-alt. Ppl you have to excuse old Woody, his memory isn't what it used to be. Im strongly remember Blacklight explaining that we were NOT in ec to get a fight but only to get a nessesary job done as fast as possible. /Silvero
Audrea	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:29:00 - [329] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Why is it that with every post you're singing the same old tune - its the game mechanics fault! Oh no, god forbid anything you do be considered hard and boring work. Logistics is the only thing keeping this game from degenerating into an FPS and if you can't handle that, you don't deserve to control space. Plain and simple. Re-read my post. I am saying logistics is fine for contested systems, when u need to fuel the towers, dreads etc. But if its not contested system - its boring to fuel POS week after week, haul fuels, haul inminable etc. I dont pay to play a truck driver in this game.. and I think many will agree its boring job when NOT contested system. ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
Lungorthin	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:31:00 - [330] Originally by: Divine Devastation Longorthin, no offence honey but I don't think defence is your strong point, of course there's the school of 'attack is the best form of defence' but in reality we all realise that defence by definition is more worthy a challenge than attack. However I do applaud your propaganda capabilities although I think perhaps you should muzzle some of your younger forum posters. but since my other BOB comrades have jolted my question, perhaps you can confirm that in fact SA was the enemy you were refering to (or perhaps inform me of another alliance with those attributes), perhaps an empire war dec would therefore achieve your objective? fish :)

Gyro DuAquin1	Posted - 2006.05.30 13:14:00 - [331] Edited by: Gyro DuAquin1 on 30/05/2006 13:15:29 Well ec was quiet fun for u guys i guess, u have killed a shipyard that can be bought on the market, u have killed some fleets that have tried to get in there with proablly nothing on their overview, u have killed a few pos, cause pos shootin is a real blast. Not to forget the other 20h of these days where exactly nothing happend and u just stood there with ur gangs and bubbels. Damn i hate myself for missing that special part. And u showed the alliances how easy it is to conquer something by gather as many as u can and hope that the lag is on your side. The funny part of this was, most of the time u got completly ignored, and that gentelmen is whats ****s u off the most i guess. When my thoughts come to the "ec siege" where we lost nothing except a few bs, a few poses and the capitalyard, cause the ms was already out. My minds are about when bob was on his way home, ascn missed the train and got a nice and funny fight in ec- and ofc the day after when i jumped into ec and it was like nothing happend. So in a nutshell the big "ec siege" was one of the most boring events ever that cost us a few isk not to mention ur cost of time which is imo much more costy then isk. And where ppl like ascn, ts and the ones i forgot have been a nice meatshild for bob. But yes iam real bitter about this great event of eve, where u have wasted 5 days of ur live that u have lost forever and we lost a few items that have been replaced within a day.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.30 13:18:00 - [332] Why are people still rabbiting on about the EC-P8R siege? It has no relevance to the current fighting for Querious. Eve Blacklight Style
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2006.05.30 13:18:00 - [333] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Cyleth Cyleth Black Nova Corp Omg, why Nubleth, why? I've already warned you what would happen with out a full D2 standings re-set! The kittens were just the beginning Although how do you like it on your conscience that already 50 kittens have already felt the firey wrath of my shoe. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Auntie Bob	Posted - 2006.05.30 13:31:00 - [334] Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 28/05/2006 18:29:33 Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all. You are a baffoon sir, you are fully aware CODA do not want querious, they just wanted to kill fix - job done. Now your gonna take a region that has been cleared for you and that CODA has no interest in . LOL sums BOB up. Heres a tip - Lookout in NOL
HOLY MOLYRAVIOLI	Posted - 2006.05.30 13:34:00 - [335] Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 28/05/2006 18:29:33 Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all. You are a baffoon sir, you are fully aware CODA do not want querious, they just wanted to kill fix - job done. Now your gonna take a region that has been cleared for you and that CODA has no interest in . LOL sums BOB up. Heres a tip - Lookout in NOL So in trying to destroy BoB, CODA gave it a new region, nice job!!
Gyro DuAquin1	Posted - 2006.05.30 13:38:00 - [336] Originally by: Blacklight Why are people still rabbiting on about the EC-P8R siege? It has no relevance to the current fighting for Querious. maybe because page 1-10 has everything already in it what a good threads needs to have, whining, chestbeating, alts, a few warm words, more alts, more whining a possible scenario of the future now we only need a few loved memories to fill our hearts with the hate that we need to get throuh the rushour. In the next bob thread some ppl will bring up this thread, that a vicious circle. oh cool iam allowed to go home now, end of forum activity for me, l8r lads
Klaryssa	Posted - 2006.05.30 13:47:00 - [337] Originally by: HOLY MOLYRAVIOLI Originally by: Auntie Bob You are a baffoon sir, you are fully aware CODA do not want querious, they just wanted to kill fix - job done. Now your gonna take a region that has been cleared for you and that CODA has no interest in . LOL sums BOB up. Heres a tip - Lookout in NOL So in trying to destroy BoB, CODA gave it a new region, nice job!! Quoted for Truth/LOLage.
Waut	Posted - 2006.05.30 14:12:00 - [338] Originally by: HOLY MOLYRAVIOLI Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 28/05/2006 18:29:33 Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all. [/center] You are a baffoon sir, you are fully aware CODA do not want querious, they just wanted to kill fix - job done. Now your gonna take a region that has been cleared for you and that CODA has no interest in . LOL sums BOB up. Heres a tip - Lookout in NOL So in trying to destroy BoB, CODA gave it a new region, nice job!! AS they say in that 70's show: Burn! In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU <-- Future God Emperor of EvE
slip66	Posted - 2006.05.30 14:17:00 - [339] Bah! enough with the EC crap this is a nice 9CG thread :) Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.05.30 14:18:00 - [340] Originally by: Auntie Bob You are a baffoon sir, you are fully aware CODA do not want querious, they just wanted to kill fix - job done. Now your gonna take a region that has been cleared for you and that CODA has no interest in . LOL sums BOB up. Heres a tip - Lookout in NOL LOL So if that is the case why were SA, SMASH and HF all 'claiming' bits of Querious? Oh that's right, because they didn't want to claim it really, I get it now. Btw, did Jim Henson create your alt as well as your main? Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here

Metal Dude	Posted - 2006.05.30 14:35:00 - [341] Originally by: Auntie Bob You are a baffoon sir, you are fully aware CODA do not want querious, they just wanted to kill fix - job done... FIX Disbanded? I must have missed that post. Ohh, and Hi Aneu. The truth will set you free
Stradivarious	Posted - 2006.05.30 14:38:00 - [342] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 29/05/2006 18:29:44 the info that concerns me most atm is how many [coda] bs were lost to their own pos today? i saw 2 go down oh and a zealot now too Yeah there seems to be a chance of a bug with corp/alliance not showing in certain situations, watched an in IGA dreadnought bounce off our h-pa POS twice last week after he jumped in and showed neutral... Luckily for him the POS wasn't set to shoot neutrals at the time, or we would have had one dreadnought less Relogging seems to fix the issue. I like to think of myself as the chlorine in the gene pool.
Auntie Bob	Posted - 2006.05.30 14:59:00 - [343] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Auntie Bob You are a baffoon sir, you are fully aware CODA do not want querious, they just wanted to kill fix - job done. Now your gonna take a region that has been cleared for you and that CODA has no interest in . LOL sums BOB up. Heres a tip - Lookout in NOL LOL So if that is the case why were SA, SMASH and HF all 'claiming' bits of Querious? Oh that's right, because they didn't want to claim it really, I get it now. Btw, did Jim Henson create your alt as well as your main? LOL you seem to have the affinity with Mr Henson Gonzo so your the prize muppet. Oh and since your so clued up which systems have HF or SA ever claimed in Querious? come to think of it how many do Bob have in querious?
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.05.30 15:44:00 - [344] Originally by: Auntie Bob LOL you seem to have the affinity with Mr Henson Gonzo so your the prize muppet. Oh and since your so clued up which systems have HF or SA ever claimed in Querious? come to think of it how many do Bob have in querious? Semantics - they were still posting in the map thread making claims about who controlled Querious. And now they have you as a spokesperson to tell us how they never wanted those bits of space, well done to you! Also when insulting people you should try to use correct punctuation - It's 'you're' not your, i.e. the abbreviation of you are. I'll give you an example for the correct use of 'your'. I wonder which alliance 'your' main account is in? I wonder if you'll ever have the courage to post with 'your' main? Do you see how it works now muppet alt? No, didnÆt think you would. Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Auntie Bob	Posted - 2006.05.30 15:51:00 - [345] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Auntie Bob LOL you seem to have the affinity with Mr Henson Gonzo so your the prize muppet. Oh and since your so clued up which systems have HF or SA ever claimed in Querious? come to think of it how many do Bob have in querious? Semantics - they were still posting in the map thread making claims about who controlled Querious. And now they have you as a spokesperson to tell us how they never wanted those bits of space, well done to you! Also when insulting people you should try to use correct punctuation - It's 'you're' not your, i.e. the abbreviation of you are. I'll give you an example for the correct use of 'your'. I wonder which alliance 'your' main account is in? I wonder if you'll ever have the courage to post with 'your' main? Do you see how it works now muppet alt? No, didnÆt think you would. Err sorry if you took it as an insult, just thought it was ironic that you were insuating I was a muppett . I was just trying to point out the inaccuracies in your post re SA & HF as your one of the few BNC that dont exagerate the truth. Oh and thanx for the grammer lesson. Finally I will never have the balls to post with my main
Divine Devastation	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:00:00 - [346] I have a question that I hope BOB will be so kind to answer. It seems to me (imho) that BOB picked the fight in 9CG and swiftly declared that those they were fighting were all members of dead and insignificant alliances (avoiding the contradictions here since BOB appear very proud that they attacked these insigificant already dead alliances). and if BOB are indeed the ultimate warriors looking for a challenging fight then why are they not attacking an alliance that can match their resources and that they consider not to be dead, such as ASCN (no offence guys)?
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:01:00 - [347] Originally by: Auntie Bob Err sorry if you took it as an insult, just thought it was ironic that you were insuating I was a muppett . Fair enough, however the Character name DoctorGonzo was taken from a book called 'Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas' by Hunter S Thompson and has no association with Jim HensonÆs muppet character Gonzo the Magnificent. Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
R0UNDER	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:09:00 - [348] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Auntie Bob Err sorry if you took it as an insult, just thought it was ironic that you were insuating I was a muppett . Fair enough, however the Character name DoctorGonzo was taken from a book called 'Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas' by Hunter S Thompson and has no association with Jim HensonÆs muppet character Gonzo the Magnificent. Liar... There are screenshots of you flying in space and i could have sworn you were the muppet... Screenshot
Waldorf	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:15:00 - [349] Did someone mention muppets?!?
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:23:00 - [350] Originally by: Divine Devastation I have a question that I hope BOB will be so kind to answer. It seems to me (imho) that BOB picked the fight in 9CG and swiftly declared that those they were fighting were all members of dead and insignificant alliances (avoiding the contradictions here since BOB appear very proud that they attacked these insigificant already dead alliances). and if BOB are indeed the ultimate warriors looking for a challenging fight then why are they not attacking an alliance that can match their resources and that they consider not to be dead, such as ASCN (no offence guys)? When enough dead people get together you actually get life again. CODA are proof of this, we'll see how if they learnt anything from our last engagements (when they were seperate) and see if they can keep it up this weekend. As for ASCN et al, well, wait and see?

Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:27:00 - [351] <3 Gyro. Rly nothing more needs to be said about this, that was perfect --------------------------------
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:33:00 - [352] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Divine Devastation I have a question that I hope BOB will be so kind to answer. It seems to me (imho) that BOB picked the fight in 9CG and swiftly declared that those they were fighting were all members of dead and insignificant alliances (avoiding the contradictions here since BOB appear very proud that they attacked these insigificant already dead alliances). and if BOB are indeed the ultimate warriors looking for a challenging fight then why are they not attacking an alliance that can match their resources and that they consider not to be dead, such as ASCN (no offence guys)? When enough dead people get together you actually get life again. CODA are proof of this, we'll see how if they learnt anything from our last engagements (when they were seperate) and see if they can keep it up this weekend. As for ASCN et al, well, wait and see? Actually, usually when enough dead are together, you just have a pile of dead. BoB has stated over and over how insignificant those alliances are. If they are so insignificant, why waste your resources trying to fight them? I think the forum lies and propaganda you've spread are catching up to you. Too bad you didn't hire an expert in the subject ... instead you let your amateur forum trolls represent BoB's public face.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:45:00 - [353] DBP im not disputing what bob would have done. Im simply saying its a complete different situation and we cannot be compared to what we did then, to what you are doing now. Frege + ekp + Alot smaller G + A disaray IRON + Rzr = 209 + 284 + 450ish + 800ish + 531 = 2274 ASCN + BoB(Including atuk) + F-E + AXE = 3320 + 1464 + 1000~ + 779 =6563 3 to 1 CODA = VC + FA + Huzzah + SA + IMP + VOX (missed any?) = 645 + 507 + 1285 + 495 + 100 =3032 BoB = 1464 2 to 1 And none of those corps are even close to how good bob/Atuk were during the EC campaign. So yeh thats all im saying, dont compare the 2! You may have fought ec, you would most likely have lost if it was d2/ascn/axe/f-e, fighting against you. Im sure G did a little bit of fighting, but they couldnt really do anything major, it was a lost cause imo. And i dont mind the bob blobbed ec, the made a behemoth - D2, out of it anyway, Trust really never were connected to G as much as they are now, so really G should thank you for making them 2-3 times stronger than they were. I know this is tottally of topic, but frankly, i couldnt give a **, this topic is 10 pages worth of ** anyway. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
fire 59	Posted - 2006.05.30 17:10:00 - [354] Originally by: Sonya Casiros Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Divine Devastation I have a question that I hope BOB will be so kind to answer. It seems to me (imho) that BOB picked the fight in 9CG and swiftly declared that those they were fighting were all members of dead and insignificant alliances (avoiding the contradictions here since BOB appear very proud that they attacked these insigificant already dead alliances). and if BOB are indeed the ultimate warriors looking for a challenging fight then why are they not attacking an alliance that can match their resources and that they consider not to be dead, such as ASCN (no offence guys)? When enough dead people get together you actually get life again. CODA are proof of this, we'll see how if they learnt anything from our last engagements (when they were seperate) and see if they can keep it up this weekend. As for ASCN et al, well, wait and see? Actually, usually when enough dead are together, you just have a pile of dead. BoB has stated over and over how insignificant those alliances are. If they are so insignificant, why waste your resources trying to fight them? I think the forum lies and propaganda you've spread are catching up to you. Too bad you didn't hire an expert in the subject ... instead you let your amateur forum trolls represent BoB's public face. You're funny, are you taking stupidity lesson's from mochalatte. Uneducated muppets 4TL. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Divine Devastation	Posted - 2006.05.30 17:24:00 - [355] Reading through the sarcasm, flame bait and blatent propoganda is really a full time job. It's obvious your foe will return with an equally impressive and provocative response so why play their game, bring yourselves above, laugh and get back in game and have some fun :) I do appreciate the few that attempted at some productive responses, thanks. I'm not aware of any circumstance beyond reputation and great marketing that can substantiate the praise BOB appears to have acquired. I was unfortunately caught in system when they took on Huzzah and it was clear that BOB had the upper hand when it came to numbers and preperation which makes it very difficult to argue a greater skill set or experience within BOB. Unfortunately imho the same goes to a certain extent with this informal 'coalition' fight, BOB initiated a surprise attack and were able to leverage resources (access to station with Im sure enough FIX provided goodies to start your own NAGA) beyond the less prepared and organised 'coalition'. I'll hold off on my subscription to "BOB Weekly" until we see a less predictable resulting fight such as between BOB and ASCN would provide. Good luck and have fun !
Heimalt	Posted - 2006.05.30 17:51:00 - [356] Originally by: Divine Devastation I'll hold off on my subscription to "BOB Weekly" until we see a less predictable resulting fight such as between BOB and ASCN would provide. Why are so many people desperate for this ? ASCN is NOT a pvp alliance, they are more industrial if anything, and against BoB, id BoB attacked properly instead of just fighting, which both sides enjoy, ASCN would lose, hands down. If you knew how bad co-ordination and general morale actually is within ASCN, it's a wonder anything gets done at all.
Keleborn	Posted - 2006.05.30 18:18:00 - [357] Originally by: Darko1107 DBP im not disputing what bob would have done. Im simply saying its a complete different situation and we cannot be compared to what we did then, to what you are doing now. Frege + ekp + Alot smaller G + A disaray IRON + Rzr = 209 + 284 + 450ish + 800ish + 531 = 2274 ASCN + BoB(Including atuk) + F-E + AXE = 3320 + 1464 + 1000~ + 779 =6563 3 to 1 CODA = VC + FA + Huzzah + SA + IMP + VOX (missed any?) = 645 + 507 + 1285 + 495 + 100 =3032 BoB = 1464 2 to 1 And none of those corps are even close to how good bob/Atuk were during the EC campaign. So yeh thats all im saying, dont compare the 2! You may have fought ec, you would most likely have lost if it was d2/ascn/axe/f-e, fighting against you. Im sure G did a little bit of fighting, but they couldnt really do anything major, it was a lost cause imo. And i dont mind the bob blobbed ec, the made a behemoth - D2, out of it anyway, Trust really never were connected to G as much as they are now, so really G should thank you for making them 2-3 times stronger than they were. I know this is tottally of topic, but frankly, i couldnt give a **, this topic is 10 pages worth of ** anyway. Wow you had 2k, why didn't you fight the 300 (or 800 acording to wouldluse) that where in EC? When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite but I don't waste my breath.
Last Mohicans	Posted - 2006.05.30 18:21:00 - [358] Dorko and wouldluse toghether no wonder that barrel of monkey **** fell apart in the north. Stop trying to mimic everything BoB does you will always be second rate crawl back in your hole and deal with it. Also plz take you closest 2000 friends with you.
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.05.30 18:42:00 - [359] Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Sonya Casiros Actually, usually when enough dead are together, you just have a pile of dead. BoB has stated over and over how insignificant those alliances are. If they are so insignificant, why waste your resources trying to fight them? I think the forum lies and propaganda you've spread are catching up to you. Too bad you didn't hire an expert in the subject ... instead you let your amateur forum trolls represent BoB's public face. You're funny, are you taking stupidity lesson's from mochalatte. Uneducated muppets 4TL. There there, I know the truth hurts but it'll be okay. Here, have a tissue to wipe those tears. We should put you down for a nap otherwise you'll be cranky for the rest of the day.
Balazs Simon	Posted - 2006.05.30 18:55:00 - [360] Originally by: Keleborn Originally by: Darko1107 DBP im not disputing what bob would have done. Im simply saying its a complete different situation and we cannot be compared to what we did then, to what you are doing now. Frege + ekp + Alot smaller G + A disaray IRON + Rzr = 209 + 284 + 450ish + 800ish + 531 = 2274 ASCN + BoB(Including atuk) + F-E + AXE = 3320 + 1464 + 1000~ + 779 =6563 3 to 1 CODA = VC + FA + Huzzah + SA + IMP + VOX (missed any?) = 645 + 507 + 1285 + 495 + 100 =3032 BoB = 1464 2 to 1 And none of those corps are even close to how good bob/Atuk were during the EC campaign. So yeh thats all im saying, dont compare the 2! You may have fought ec, you would most likely have lost if it was d2/ascn/axe/f-e, fighting against you. Im sure G did a little bit of fighting, but they couldnt really do anything major, it was a lost cause imo. And i dont mind the bob blobbed ec, the made a behemoth - D2, out of it anyway, Trust really never were connected to G as much as they are now, so really G should thank you for making them 2-3 times stronger than they were. I know this is tottally of topic, but frankly, i couldnt give a **, this topic is 10 pages worth of ** anyway. Wow you had 2k, why didn't you fight the 300 (or 800 acording to wouldluse) that where in EC? Btw It was stated quite a few time that in EC there were only 5 - 10 F-E, including myself 3 other HUN members, and a few MLM guys.. F-E was not even Blue to BOB and we had to ask for standings before we could come in (was there just to see the show :) ) - POST WITH YOUR MAIN! New sig coming soon... This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the DICE Corporation.

Snodgey2004	Posted - 2006.05.30 19:08:00 - [361] Seems alot of people like the idea of BoB vs ASCN , personally I'm not in an alliance at the mo' and am just interested in what's going on around me , these forums provide sometimes hours of reading it's all good , even the smack What I wonder is if EVER these two got it on would ASCN call in friends ? With almost twice the number count of BoB you'd think not but as above posts state - they aren't a totally pVp alliance , though i'm sure they could more than hold their own for a while , it's a bit like the BoB vs The5 fight everyone wanted back when . Totally off topic post just more of a thinking aloud post , not like the last few pages have been on topic anyway - it's turned into a few people communicating through the forums instead of convo
Naurhir	Posted - 2006.05.30 19:27:00 - [362] I think that if that war would occur, ASCN would get MC aid. Cyvok has a good head about him, and could create the plan as well as the funding needed to hire MC, as per the requirements earlier posted by Seleene. With ASCN industry + pvpers, as well as MC pvpers, the two could make for a rather formiddable enemy. I still think D2 would be a more fun matchup, while BoB is currently occupied in Querious, a little trip to NOL could be interesting.
Heimalt	Posted - 2006.05.30 19:29:00 - [363] That would probably depend on BoB's goals.. Before this CODA got their attention ASCN were just as much targets for BoB as everyone else when the standings were reset, with fleet battles aplenty.. a couple of which were Frapsed and available to all. They blew each other up plenty and neither is afraid of combat, despite ASCN's FC's avoiding it like the plague at times. If BoB want fleet fights, they can get them anywhere and ASCN have proven they will oblige. If they try to take territory though, it's a different matter, and initially I would say No, they won't call in help. Long term possibly, but they have a lot of resources down there, and plenty of people to make use of them. It would be a HUGE war of attrition with bystanders no doubt taking potshots whenever opportunity arose. ASCN don't seem to want it though, so it will only happen if BoB want to take on the most stable alliance in the south.
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.30 20:37:00 - [364] well the enemy is in full retreat so what can you do FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA
Albya	Posted - 2006.05.30 20:41:00 - [365] Just now BOb take Querrious :p OMG, they have been affraid of FIX to take all this time ? :D /joke :p
Sennju Zensu	Posted - 2006.05.30 20:48:00 - [366] arretes de spam Albya lol big laggy fight in querious, then, now, its calm.... nice region!
Metal Dude	Posted - 2006.05.30 20:57:00 - [367] But, but, but wait. I thought this was going to be a long war. Pulling out already? How disappointing. :cry:] The truth will set you free
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.30 21:15:00 - [368] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 30/05/2006 21:16:15 darko, your numbers are abit far off. a) as someone mentioned FE wasnt involved in EC (apart from some solo guys) b) Coda consists of 7 alliances i heared (dunno which one is missing tho, you might make some digging there, could be norad?) c) main difference between "dead" no space alliances is that the can muster man, dog and kitchensink without anyone needed to stay home. d) youre missing Fix in your calc. Those 3 points mean that in EC the defenders could theoretically muster "everyone" while the attackers had portions of their forces spread out in their home turf (which was at that time under attack by various attackers itself). In 9cg the situation is reversed, the attacker basically could lead an all out war while the defender (Fix and Bob) had, especially at the start, forces spread out. This analysis doesnt include the state and "freshness" of the involved alliances. Fix after a monthlong siege by multiple was pushed back to empire and hence couldnt be counted "full" in my eyes, while almost all other alliances in both scenarios were rather fresh and fully geared up.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.30 23:23:00 - [369] Originally by: Last Mohicans Dorko and wouldluse toghether no wonder that barrel of monkey **** fell apart in the north. Stop trying to mimic everything BoB does you will always be second rate crawl back in your hole and deal with it. Also plz take you closest 2000 friends with you. We know that we are not BoB and that BoB is the strongest pvp entity on this server. so what? --------------------------------
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.30 23:27:00 - [370] Originally by: Keleborn Originally by: Darko1107 DBP im not disputing what bob would have done. Im simply saying its a complete different situation and we cannot be compared to what we did then, to what you are doing now. Frege + ekp + Alot smaller G + A disaray IRON + Rzr = 209 + 284 + 450ish + 800ish + 531 = 2274 ASCN + BoB(Including atuk) + F-E + AXE = 3320 + 1464 + 1000~ + 779 =6563 3 to 1 CODA = VC + FA + Huzzah + SA + IMP + VOX (missed any?) = 645 + 507 + 1285 + 495 + 100 =3032 BoB = 1464 2 to 1 And none of those corps are even close to how good bob/Atuk were during the EC campaign. So yeh thats all im saying, dont compare the 2! You may have fought ec, you would most likely have lost if it was d2/ascn/axe/f-e, fighting against you. Im sure G did a little bit of fighting, but they couldnt really do anything major, it was a lost cause imo. And i dont mind the bob blobbed ec, the made a behemoth - D2, out of it anyway, Trust really never were connected to G as much as they are now, so really G should thank you for making them 2-3 times stronger than they were. I know this is tottally of topic, but frankly, i couldnt give a **, this topic is 10 pages worth of ** anyway. Wow you had 2k, why didn't you fight the 300 (or 800 acording to wouldluse) that where in EC? at peaktimes there were over 500 in ec and 350 in torrinos. ofc all in torri were friendly. noob --------------------------------

Wuubaa	Posted - 2006.05.30 23:41:00 - [371] Originally by: Darko1107 CODA = VC + FA + Huzzah + SA + IMP + VOX (missed any?) = 645 + 507 + 1285 + 495 + 100 =3032 BoB = 1464 U didnt add stain + SMASH is part of the querious gang bang alliance. 645 + 507 + 1285 + 1098 + 495 + 100 + 375 = 4505 So it is infact 3 to 1 But ill agree its not the same these alliances arent a BoB/Atuk/ASCN by a mile.
fire 59	Posted - 2006.05.30 23:44:00 - [372] Originally by: Sonya Casiros Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Sonya Casiros Actually, usually when enough dead are together, you just have a pile of dead. BoB has stated over and over how insignificant those alliances are. If they are so insignificant, why waste your resources trying to fight them? I think the forum lies and propaganda you've spread are catching up to you. Too bad you didn't hire an expert in the subject ... instead you let your amateur forum trolls represent BoB's public face. You're funny, are you taking stupidity lesson's from mochalatte. Uneducated muppets 4TL. There there, I know the truth hurts but it'll be okay. Here, have a tissue to wipe those tears. We should put you down for a nap otherwise you'll be cranky for the rest of the day. Truth, hurts, lol. You ***** me up, i only cry at the stream of crap spewed forth from alt's mouth's who have a jellyfish's backbone and don't want to be held accountable, so cower behind a snivelling forum posting alt. I pity you if that's the best attempt you can do to offend me or smak or whatever it was. I think you're funny, but don't quit your dayjob, school, nursery, whatever Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Naurhir	Posted - 2006.05.31 00:06:00 - [373] Originally by: Wuubaa Originally by: Darko1107 CODA = VC + FA + Huzzah + SA + IMP + VOX (missed any?) = 645 + 507 + 1285 + 495 + 100 =3032 BoB = 1464 U didnt add stain + SMASH is part of the querious gang bang alliance. 645 + 507 + 1285 + 1098 + 495 + 100 + 375 = 4505 So it is infact 3 to 1 But ill agree its not the same these alliances arent a BoB/Atuk/ASCN by a mile. Not that I am bothering looking up the numbers, but I am pretty sure SA and stain are the same entity in this scenario
Kai Jyokoroi	Posted - 2006.05.31 02:53:00 - [374] Please, just stop the smack on both sides. I just try to do what my alliance bosses tell me to do. I am just as sick of people on my side shooting off their mouths on here and on teamspeak, yelling ALL the time about how ***** BoB are as I am with the CONSTANT forum peen waving on both the BoB side and the CODA side. Yes, we killed a fully faction fitted dread and a few POS's. Yes, we lost some carriers and whatnot and there were some screwups with standings, which is not surprising when 50 odd corps try to work together for the first time. SO WHAT?! Drops in the ocean on either side. I have respect for my enemies and I am heartily sick of people telling me how crappy and lame BoB are when it is immediately obvious they are not anywhere near as much of a walkover as FiX were, repeatedly showing superior fleet fittings and tactics. Regardless of what people care to spin, we beat FiX in fleet fights 3/4 times until BoB turned up at which point the ratio was reversed. This is not such a terrible thing in my book. In order to get better at a game you have to fight the best. I wouldn't want to fight them if they were sucky stab merchants like any of the names you could care to trot out. The whole thing is starting to aggravate me. CODA dudes, just IGNORE db preacher and Diana et al if they get to you, if you can't see they're doing it just to wind you up then there's something wrong with you. It's the internet, remember? BoB guys, although some of our people really do get aggravated by you, I think the same should apply; there's such a thing as humility in victory rather than "OH YEAH, OH YEAH! We rubbed it in your FACE!" Although I may have been known to say some pretty stupid things on these forums with regard to the wars before when I was new to SA, I have to say I am increasingly coming to admire the Huzzah stance on this - any smacktalking in local or juvenility in forums leads to a warning then a kick/ban from alliance for repeat offence. There is a lesson to be learned from these guys. The only positive thing I will say is I love the name CODA, who came up with that?! In short - chill the hell out, everyone. Just a game. _____________ The day I receive my first moderator forum-sig hijack is the day I realise I have won Eve.
AvanCade	Posted - 2006.05.31 03:03:00 - [375] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Last Mohicans Dorko and wouldluse toghether no wonder that barrel of monkey **** fell apart in the north. Stop trying to mimic everything BoB does you will always be second rate crawl back in your hole and deal with it. Also plz take you closest 2000 friends with you. We know that we are not BoB and that BoB is the strongest pvp entity on this server. so what? Stop feeding the alts pls, who cares whose strong...we all play the game different ways with different tactics.
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.05.31 03:33:00 - [376] Edited by: Kryztal on 31/05/2006 03:34:52 Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi Edited by: Kai Jyokoroi on 31/05/2006 03:00:27 Please, just stop the smack on both sides. I just try to do what my alliance bosses tell me to do. I am just as sick of people on my side shooting off their mouths on here and on teamspeak, yelling ALL the time about how *** BoB are as I am with the CONSTANT forum peen waving on both the BoB side and the CODA side. Flaimbait.... You really think your post did anything but aggrivate people? Post was nothing but a dig at BoB so your "please, just stop the smack both sides" was kinda ironic. I might have valued your input if you had stopped after the first few lines. But the rest was pure flamebait. edited cos im tired BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain**
Murphy	Posted - 2006.05.31 04:17:00 - [377] No I haven't read this entire post, but I have to say good job to BoB for taking over another region. After all the whining I've seen from FIX over us blowing up a single wolf that jumped into the middle of our op, I really don't think they deserve any space. Like I said, good jobs and take care of the new space :)
Silinary	Posted - 2006.05.31 05:34:00 - [378] Originally by: Murphy No I haven't read this entire post, but I have to say good job to BoB for taking over another region. After all the whining I've seen from FIX over us blowing up a single wolf that jumped into the middle of our op, I really don't think they deserve any space. Like I said, good jobs and take care of the new space :) eh? from what I heard, we thought you had us at +5 ... even mentioned in the ascn thread with standings where it shows ascn has us at 0.0 after a year or somehting f + ... no mention, no heads up, just a drop in standings. Meh. So it was a bit of a suprise to hear we lost a ship to AXE, someone in charge in the corp that it happened to tried to get some answers. Was there more to it? No matter how fast you turn your head, you'll never even catch a glimpse of what is going on around you...
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.05.31 05:47:00 - [379] Eh so.. the war is over. 9CG and H74 were cleared of enemy POS today, one remains in the entire region. Resistance is non existant and numbers dwindle as we kill them. All before thread lock, man.. I hope we take Catch next. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.05.31 06:17:00 - [380] Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Sonya Casiros Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Divine Devastation I have a question that I hope BOB will be so kind to answer. It seems to me (imho) that BOB picked the fight in 9CG and swiftly declared that those they were fighting were all members of dead and insignificant alliances (avoiding the contradictions here since BOB appear very proud that they attacked these insigificant already dead alliances). and if BOB are indeed the ultimate warriors looking for a challenging fight then why are they not attacking an alliance that can match their resources and that they consider not to be dead, such as ASCN (no offence guys)? When enough dead people get together you actually get life again. CODA are proof of this, we'll see how if they learnt anything from our last engagements (when they were seperate) and see if they can keep it up this weekend. As for ASCN et al, well, wait and see? Actually, usually when enough dead are together, you just have a pile of dead. BoB has stated over and over how insignificant those alliances are. If they are so insignificant, why waste your resources trying to fight them? I think the forum lies and propaganda you've spread are catching up to you. Too bad you didn't hire an expert in the subject ... instead you let your amateur forum trolls represent BoB's public face. You're funny, are you taking stupidity lesson's from mochalatte. Uneducated muppets 4TL. what i do on the forums is slightly better than you. all i see you do is flame who you think are muppets. i add content and actualy talk about the op. do you? not much to be honest. you go to show eve that bob are a major part of the trolling and forum problems. sorry to be off topic but fire you bob tags dont give you some special right to flame others with different opinion. so muppet take some of your own advice and stfu. Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.

DeltaH	Posted - 2006.05.31 06:22:00 - [381] Originally by: Naurhir Not that I am bothering looking up the numbers, but I am pretty sure SA and stain are the same entity in this scenario They said SA but didn't put the 1098 number in equation. And like he said SMASH wasn't in list either.
Tuijabird	Posted - 2006.05.31 07:00:00 - [382] LOL @ bob trying to say this was anything like EC-. Stop being hypocrites. Blacklight says that their goal was to NOT fight. Then DBP talks about all they wanted was a fight. Yeah a fight while ATUK lined up their ships? Or a fight when people were so bored they tested set ups at the bubble. The fact is Coda didn't lock anything down. They were hit after weeks of fighting with fix. So please, say your uber , but don't compare it with Ec-. IN Ec- you had more numbers..the servers weren't "upgraded" I mean lets not even go there so I don't have to pull out 1000 things that make it not even close to this situation. Fact is Coda is little to nothing in means of org. we all know numbers don't mean anything in big scale war fare (hence goonfleet). It's about what you do with those numbers and ec- was done different. You didn't want a fight DBP they say it over n over again. SO don't act like you did. You would have not jumped in and done anything. You would of lost all your ships or a majority of them with little replacement except to pod jump back. simple fact. We have seen BoB fleets takes heavy losses and seen what they do. They run back home saying they just wanted to "test" someone out even brining dreads. Either way how bout not saying you would of done anything as you were not in that position EVER. I thought higher ups decided that.... that ceo's spoke the truth. NOT YOU. or is that another one of your hypocritical statements? Coda just sucks imo. I would flame them and the S weasels. However to listen to some of the crap bob spurts out of it's mouth on daily schedule just gets sick to read. I hope at least you have fun posting such utter trash bob?.... my only guess as to why. Forum warriors 4tw. tuija P.s. I also find it funny that bob is always explaining how proganda works yet they smack everyone else that does it. Another example of how BoB wants to moderate the forums and the game itself. Try being mods until then...Stop being captian save a hoes and let the mods sort out alts or smack. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: A rolling stone gathers no moss
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.31 07:54:00 - [383] buu huu dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
fire 59	Posted - 2006.05.31 09:10:00 - [384] Originally by: Mochalatte Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Sonya Casiros Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Divine Devastation I have a question that I hope BOB will be so kind to answer. It seems to me (imho) that BOB picked the fight in 9CG and swiftly declared that those they were fighting were all members of dead and insignificant alliances (avoiding the contradictions here since BOB appear very proud that they attacked these insigificant already dead alliances). and if BOB are indeed the ultimate warriors looking for a challenging fight then why are they not attacking an alliance that can match their resources and that they consider not to be dead, such as ASCN (no offence guys)? When enough dead people get together you actually get life again. CODA are proof of this, we'll see how if they learnt anything from our last engagements (when they were seperate) and see if they can keep it up this weekend. As for ASCN et al, well, wait and see? Actually, usually when enough dead are together, you just have a pile of dead. BoB has stated over and over how insignificant those alliances are. If they are so insignificant, why waste your resources trying to fight them? I think the forum lies and propaganda you've spread are catching up to you. Too bad you didn't hire an expert in the subject ... instead you let your amateur forum trolls represent BoB's public face. You're funny, are you taking stupidity lesson's from mochalatte. Uneducated muppets 4TL. what i do on the forums is slightly better than you. all i see you do is flame who you think are muppets. i add content and actualy talk about the op. do you? not much to be honest. you go to show eve that bob are a major part of the trolling and forum problems. sorry to be off topic but fire you bob tags dont give you some special right to flame others with different opinion. so muppet take some of your own advice and stfu. Omg, i summoned the queen of childish banter . I've never seen you add even an iota of content, ever, you smack, troll, flame constantly in BoB threads and talk trash as if it's fact. I add more content while im in the bathroom than you have done in all your post's combined. My tags have nothing to do with anything, if you're being an idiot i'll tell you straight, i don't bs or lie like some ( points to mochy) . I regret summoning you to this thread now because you make my blood boil and i've just given the biggest troll in the forum's a fat luch. Oh and btw, you said i shouldn't flame those with different opinion's, so how come you're allowed to do it every time someone disagree's with you, pot kettle black hmmmm. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.05.31 11:05:00 - [385] gogo bob \o/ Please take the b-word out of your signature - Cathath ([email protected]) High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
SirMolle	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:37:00 - [386] 9CG has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in FIX hands H74 has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in BoB hands All of CODA has retreated to empire, the battle of Querious never even started before it was over. 3BK will be dealt with shortly. Let this be a lesson to all future coalitions, when you are going to "bring it", do it properly, and have some stamina. Numbers alone wont do it. As per the original post, Querious is under BoB control.
Backdoor Bandit	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:51:00 - [387] Edited by: Backdoor Bandit on 31/05/2006 13:51:20 1st! Oh wait, This isn't a new thread. Are you going for a 'most flamed ever' thread record, Molle? Edit, Goddamn it ------------- Sig inappropriate-not eve related -Abdalion Please don't use CRC-personnel's signatures as your own. -Ivan
Brian Detaah	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:51:00 - [388] "When your enemy stands with his front to you, spit him in the face. When your enemy stands with his back to you, stab him in the back. Just remember that you cannot do both at the same time....unless there is two of you....and then i guess you could just beat him up....ah to hell with it, want wisdom? When going into a fight, cup your nuts" - Sun Tzu¦s "The art of war - outtakes" ------------------------------------------------ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.' `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
TRIGGER	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:53:00 - [389] maybe .... I mean just maybe .... if u try ... u might comprehend that perhaps querious was not going to be "fought" for . The reasons I shall let u try and figure for yourself. Smell the sea ?
Bacchuss	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:56:00 - [390] even tho BoB took Q, its BoB 0 : 1 Coalision, as BoB made a fools out of them self by their behavioure ************************************ "What you gonna do, when I come for yoU?!" ************************************

Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:58:00 - [391] No need for me to add any further comment other than to highlight a few choice quotes from the first half a dozen pages of this thread, in light of the last three days it kind of speaks for itself. Originally by: Svetlanna LOLOLOLOL You seriously need to make the difference between reality and your dream world. Seems your own propaganda is now taking you away from the real Eve world. You are a sweat funny guy. Thank you for the laugh Originally by: Orc A Another thread of false promises? Like the one where SA was to be wiped out? BoB look sillier every day. Originally by: Nikolai Tesla Aren't you supposed to prove it before saying you claim it? Originally by: jin jiny First take out the trash than claim the region, till than its just pathetic post. Originally by: Puncher Fantastic attempt to spin damage control, but it is no secret who's POSs have died in 9CG this weekend, nor who holds sov currently... So why not hold off on an asinine post like this until you've actually done something? Originally by: Shirei Isn't this post a little premature taking into account that BoB holds sovereignty over a grand total of zero station systems in Querious? But aw well, anything for a little flame-war I guess. Originally by: UnIQu3 Coda forces ? nice spin! anyhow who are those? And its the smash and vox holding the stations, just so ya know :) And about all the forces ya have, think some of them got podded back to delve, including a moros capital ship, only sum frigs that were lost in that engagement. Originally by: Trakh Shardan try get us outa 9CG befor ya make a post like that U cant cleam space if it isnt yours yet ! Originally by: Loftur sterki The whole EvE communty is laffin @ BoB for exacly stupit statments like those who have come from Molle, as we all know from history crasy dictators end up loosing everything includin their lives. You can all thank him for the revoulution wich will only end when his head will be handed on a plate. BOB will be wiped out. Oh just one thing to point out and for you all to remember next time you see a BoB member having a pop at one of the Station- Aliens, most of the above quotes are from SA members. Good luck at recovering the situation chaps, see you in space. Eve Blacklight Style
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:59:00 - [392] So who won? "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Brian Detaah	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:00:00 - [393] Originally by: Bacchuss even tho BoB took Q, its BoB 0 : 1 Coalision, as BoB made a fools out of them self by their behavioure So Coda wins two awards today: Nice guy (who finished last) award (given semiannually) and the Darwin Award (given all the time). /me claps vigorously ------------------------------------------------ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.' `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:01:00 - [394] heheh ebil BL
Selpy	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:05:00 - [395] Originally by: TRIGGER maybe .... I mean just maybe .... if u try ... u might comprehend that perhaps querious was not going to be "fought" for . The reasons I shall let u try and figure for yourself. Smell the sea ? I don't smell the sea, BUT....I do "SMELL WHAT THE BOB IS COOKING!" and it has a tinge of burnt CODA :) Go back to your NPC station's, atleast you know you can defend those
Bacchuss	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:06:00 - [396] Originally by: Selpy Originally by: TRIGGER maybe .... I mean just maybe .... if u try ... u might comprehend that perhaps querious was not going to be "fought" for . The reasons I shall let u try and figure for yourself. Smell the sea ? I don't smell the sea, BUT....I do "SMELL WHAT THE BOB IS COOKING!" and it has a tinge of burnt CODA :) Go back to your NPC station's, atleast you know you can defend those look who's talking ************************************ "What you gonna do, when I come for yoU?!" ************************************
Zenovia Hyradine	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:11:00 - [397] Originally by: SirMolle 9CG has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in FIX hands H74 has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in BoB hands All of CODA has retreated to empire, the battle of Querious never even started before it was over. 3BK will be dealt with shortly. Let this be a lesson to all future coalitions, when you are going to "bring it", do it properly, and have some stamina. Numbers alone wont do it. As per the original post, Querious is under BoB control. yes, taking empty and unguarded stations is hard isn't it.
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:12:00 - [398] Originally by: Bacchuss Originally by: Selpy Originally by: TRIGGER maybe .... I mean just maybe .... if u try ... u might comprehend that perhaps querious was not going to be "fought" for . The reasons I shall let u try and figure for yourself. Smell the sea ? I don't smell the sea, BUT....I do "SMELL WHAT THE BOB IS COOKING!" and it has a tinge of burnt CODA :) Go back to your NPC station's, atleast you know you can defend those look who's talking awesome response. .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one Real men use blasters
Waut	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:14:00 - [399] Originally by: Selpy Originally by: TRIGGER maybe .... I mean just maybe .... if u try ... u might comprehend that perhaps querious was not going to be "fought" for . The reasons I shall let u try and figure for yourself. Smell the sea ? I don't smell the sea, BUT....I do "SMELL WHAT THE BOB IS COOKING!" and it has a tinge of burnt CODA :) Go back to your NPC station's, atleast you know you can defend those IIRC, the last time when that arised, most of them went to Agil so if I were FIX, I'd live in Stain for a while In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU <-- Future God Emperor of EvE
Cyleth	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:18:00 - [400] Originally by: Zenovia Hyradine Originally by: SirMolle 9CG has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in FIX hands H74 has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in BoB hands All of CODA has retreated to empire, the battle of Querious never even started before it was over. 3BK will be dealt with shortly. Let this be a lesson to all future coalitions, when you are going to "bring it", do it properly, and have some stamina. Numbers alone wont do it. As per the original post, Querious is under BoB control. yes, taking empty and unguarded stations is hard isn't it. You gotta win some sort of award with that comment, really.

BlackRain	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:19:00 - [401] Originally by: Zenovia Hyradine yes, taking empty and unguarded stations is hard isn't it. Not really, no. But that hardly is the worst of our problems, is it? ------------------- -
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:22:00 - [402] Edited by: Rift Scorn on 31/05/2006 14:23:53 Originally by: Zenovia Hyradine Originally by: SirMolle 9CG has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in FIX hands H74 has fallen from CODA's hands, no POS's remains, station is in BoB hands All of CODA has retreated to empire, the battle of Querious never even started before it was over. 3BK will be dealt with shortly. Let this be a lesson to all future coalitions, when you are going to "bring it", do it properly, and have some stamina. Numbers alone wont do it. As per the original post, Querious is under BoB control. yes, taking empty and unguarded stations is hard isn't it. And who's lack of planning/motivation is it that they're unguarded? Ever considered you might have had enough time to get it guarded if someone had had the fore sight to put Stront in their POS? If it's any consolation thx for letting us kick your garden gnomes all over the CODA front lawn, i had tremendous fun breaking stuff. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:27:00 - [403] i get the feeling we see a typical display of eve finest coverup excuses now. "we didnt want that region anyways" "our goals are different from the banter we posted" "we had an emergency elsewhere, be back soon guys" Getting abit old but was to be exspected from the "coda" forces, afterall they are "dead" because they couldnt hold the territory the first time. As for blacklights impressive list of quotes, i would like to remind him about Xirtams yada yada regarding trees and OrcA's incredible statements of intent. Trigger, from past dealings and the way you handled the old Sa you shouldnt hang out in a coalition where half the leaders seem to have different goals and loudly announce them. If, as you say, Coda had no interest of fighting a prolonged war against bob, you should look for new partners because the current ones were advertising exactly that, publically and internally. Ah well ill just wait for the next Coda announcement, in the vain hope that it wasnt a 1 time thing, however im more then surprised to see the darklord once again hiding in shadows, leaving a destroyed fleet behind and a formerly claimed region abandoned.
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:29:00 - [404] Hang on im confuse WHERE the hell did we say anything about being in a coalition as far as i know that was made up by the rest of eve. We were fighting the same enemy doesnt mean were a coalition.
Zenovia Hyradine	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:31:00 - [405] Well you have some time now so you best fortify those systems as much as you can. The real fleet is yet to come. Might not be a bad idea to deploy more POS just to make sure you can keep soverenty when we return.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:32:00 - [406] Originally by: Nick Curso Hang on im confuse WHERE the hell did we say anything about being in a coalition as far as i know that was made up by the rest of eve. We were fighting the same enemy doesnt mean were a coalition. tbh i'd be trying to disown the others about now also
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:33:00 - [407] Originally by: Nick Curso Hang on im confuse WHERE the hell did we say anything about being in a coalition as far as i know that was made up by the rest of eve. We were fighting the same enemy doesnt mean were a coalition. So just to clearify that for me, youre saying that SA never was part of any "coalition" (or any other worktitle you may give the partnership of various alliances) and that you just happened to be in the same system as ppl sharing the same enemies ?
Metal Dude	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:37:00 - [408] Originally by: TRIGGER maybe .... I mean just maybe .... if u try ... u might comprehend that perhaps querious was not going to be "fought" for . The reasons I shall let u try and figure for yourself. Smell the sea ? Trigger, with all due respect from my ATUK days, we know why you won't fight to hold Querious. However,you should tell some of your coalition members to be quiet, because they were claimimg otherwise. The truth will set you free
Mira Sorento	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:38:00 - [409] Originally by: TRIGGER Smell the sea ? smell the wee? you mean the stuff dripping down your collective pants as you leg it back to empire? sure...I think everybody can smell it. . Just lose gracefully, you got pwned get over it.
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:38:00 - [410] Edited by: Nick Curso on 31/05/2006 14:46:30 Pritty much we did help eachother from time to time but it would be retarded not too. But AFAIK we were never part of any official coalition under one leader. Oh and we were fighting FIX to start with remember bob came in and aggressed us in querious so we were never out to get bob in the first place but we were enemys. Some people have such a deranged version of events sometimes it makes me giggle.

Zenovia Hyradine	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:41:00 - [411] Originally by: Kcel Chim i get the feeling we see a typical display of eve finest coverup excuses now. "we didnt want that region anyways" "our goals are different from the banter we posted" "we had an emergency elsewhere, be back soon guys" Getting abit old but was to be exspected from the "coda" forces, afterall they are "dead" because they couldnt hold the territory the first time. As for blacklights impressive list of quotes, i would like to remind him about Xirtams yada yada regarding trees and OrcA's incredible statements of intent. Trigger, from past dealings and the way you handled the old Sa you shouldnt hang out in a coalition where half the leaders seem to have different goals and loudly announce them. If, as you say, Coda had no interest of fighting a prolonged war against bob, you should look for new partners because the current ones were advertising exactly that, publically and internally. Ah well ill just wait for the next Coda announcement, in the vain hope that it wasnt a 1 time thing, however im more then surprised to see the darklord once again hiding in shadows, leaving a destroyed fleet behind and a formerly claimed region abandoned. I have to laugh at this too. You all think you know the plan but you have no idea what is really going on. Instead of opening your eyes you all flounder on your strings dancing for the puppet master. We all serve the darklord in our own way, all of us.
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:44:00 - [412] Originally by: Kcel Chim i get the feeling we see a typical display of eve finest coverup excuses now. "we didnt want that region anyways" "our goals are different from the banter we posted" "we had an emergency elsewhere, be back soon guys" Let me remind you BoB invasion to IRON space. JU-smth. When main pvp force come back to response to BoB agression - BoB left, and claimed that this was "christmas journey". Now you are bashing your enemy for doing the same thing. Anyway. Congrats BoB for their achievement (sp ? ). Fear is amazing thing. I think, that this is just beginning, time for next turn for coalition, i guess ? ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:47:00 - [413] I would certainly hope so. As for JU-, let's not rake all that up again. As far as I'm concerned the explanation posted was completely accurate. We never intended to keep it, hence us calling it a roadtrip. If we plan to stay somewhere we don't refer to it internally or externally as a roadtrip. I however have no wish to get into a discussion about that so if you choose not to believe me then that's fine, end of subject. Old blog
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:49:00 - [414] Originally by: Nick Curso Hang on im confuse WHERE the hell did we say anything about being in a coalition as far as i know that was made up by the rest of eve. We were fighting the same enemy doesnt mean were a coalition. ..... Comedy Gold. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Etherios	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:49:00 - [415] Edited by: Etherios on 31/05/2006 14:51:34 Originally by: Zenovia Hyradine I have to laugh at this too. You all think you know the plan but you have no idea what is really going on. Instead of opening your eyes you all flounder on your strings dancing for the puppet master. We all serve the darklord in our own way, all of us. Good for u i hope ur plans go as planned Tho i need to stress one thing... the truth of what happened in Querious isnt something that can be change bases on how ur lord wises .. u lost here wether he likes it or not. Maybe as u say this was all planned, then admit the loss and move on to the rest of ur plans.. because in the end u only persuade ur selves. Cya all in space... True sight isn't given to all that look for it.
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:50:00 - [416] Edited by: Nick Curso on 31/05/2006 14:52:04 Thx i try and who are u? Maybe read the rest of the posts before trying to be a smart ass ey?
TRIGGER	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:55:00 - [417] I will clarify for you . SA has allies inc huzzah , Smash . As allies we have common goals . As time progressed we saw other alliances come to querious to attack bob of which we engaged you in gangs together and that my friend is as far as it went . No allegance was formed , no coalition and certainly no longterm plans agreed to . As i said previously SA and our allies have never laid claim to querious (except for taking space from fix) nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold and if we were going to I myself would make a statement to that effect . What the general membership of SA post here should be taken with a pinch of salt exactly the same way other alliances work . Official posts regarding SA come from me and no one else . Over the few weeks that we played with other alliances for the first time I have made a few new friends and am glad of that . I will spend a moment also to give a little kudos to the corps in fix that remain , they stand up for what they believe in and credit is due for that . The war with Fix shall continue its course . I hope that clarifies things a little and if any more is needed im sure you know where the evemail button is . ttfn
Mama ISK	Posted - 2006.05.31 14:55:00 - [418] THE AWEKENING? More like BACK TO HIBERNATION
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:01:00 - [419] Originally by: Nick Curso Edited by: Nick Curso on 31/05/2006 14:52:04 Thx i try and who are u? Maybe read the rest of the posts before trying to be a smart ass ey? To put it in a straight forward manner, it's actions, not words that count. Perhaps you were a part of the Coalition of the unwilling, but you were most certainly in a Coalition all the same. When you share com's, coordinate together, and fight beside one another, what else could you call it? PS. I've read the whole post. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Nifel	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:04:00 - [420] So no more official posts from Orc A then TRIGGER? "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)

Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:04:00 - [421] Originally by: Zenovia Hyradine Originally by: Kcel Chim i get the feeling we see a typical display of eve finest coverup excuses now. "we didnt want that region anyways" "our goals are different from the banter we posted" "we had an emergency elsewhere, be back soon guys" Getting abit old but was to be exspected from the "coda" forces, afterall they are "dead" because they couldnt hold the territory the first time. As for blacklights impressive list of quotes, i would like to remind him about Xirtams yada yada regarding trees and OrcA's incredible statements of intent. Trigger, from past dealings and the way you handled the old Sa you shouldnt hang out in a coalition where half the leaders seem to have different goals and loudly announce them. If, as you say, Coda had no interest of fighting a prolonged war against bob, you should look for new partners because the current ones were advertising exactly that, publically and internally. Ah well ill just wait for the next Coda announcement, in the vain hope that it wasnt a 1 time thing, however im more then surprised to see the darklord once again hiding in shadows, leaving a destroyed fleet behind and a formerly claimed region abandoned. I have to laugh at this too. You all think you know the plan but you have no idea what is really going on. Instead of opening your eyes you all flounder on your strings dancing for the puppet master. We all serve the darklord in our own way, all of us. ok prydless / aneu, dance for the darklord.
Ordep	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:07:00 - [422] Originally by: TRIGGER (..) Official posts regarding SA come from me and no one else . No more Dorc¦A official posts \o/ Made in Portugal
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:10:00 - [423] Edited by: Nick Curso on 31/05/2006 15:17:47 coordination lending out a helping hand to damage your enemis we all know that working together wen needed is alot better than not woulden't u agree? But as for a coalition i see that as working together for a single goal leaders descussing and makeing goals together for that one goal AFAIK that wasnt the situation some were there for BoB others for FIX fact is were hostile to both. So is alot of eve does that make us all a coalition because we are all - to BoB? If that doesnt make sense i blame late nights and early mornings :) if u wish to descuss it further feel free to convo me in game at any time :) BTW i apologise for the bluntness of my last post it seemd as if u latched onto a section of what i said and twisted it as alot of do on these bords.
Divine Devastation	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:11:00 - [424] Blacklight darling, I'm sure I'm missing some clever angle here but of all the quotes you made, I fail to see the point of those quotes. Almost every one was true at the point of posting, telling someone you've done something when you haven't yet still remains premature even if becomes true at a later date. I must say I'm also impressed that the SA people who remain active on this thread are not flaming at all, in fact providing interesting responses to questions I had been asking myself, this is incredibly refreshing, kudos TRIGGER. I think the alliances involved deserve to be proud, when BOB brought it to them they didn't just leave they fought and won the first engagements. Then BOB no doubt somewhat embarassed by their initial loses brought in the rest of their alliance. I'll drop in some irony here, SirMolle himself made the following statement which if were indeed true then BOB would not of required to double their numbers surely? "Let this be a lesson to all future coalitions, when you are going to "bring it", do it properly, and have some stamina. Numbers alone wont do it." They achieved their objective too, as FIX no longer hold Querious and I'm sure they are stronger for the fights with BOB as they have seen they can win fights against BOB. I would think that the BOB management are far from celebrating a victory, more like planning how they can prevent this new threat from getting the upper hand next time.
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:12:00 - [425] BTW as most of u probably already know Orc A was SA diplomat. Therefore when trigger was unable to play for a while due to real life issues Orc was the man to make the posts :) If trigger says the only official posts come from him then thats how it is until he says otherwise :)
Zenovia Hyradine	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:13:00 - [426] Originally by: Kcel Chim ok prydless / aneu, dance for the darklord. A good guess but no where near the mark.
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:14:00 - [427] Originally by: TRIGGER I will clarify for you . SA has allies inc huzzah , Smash . As allies we have common goals . As time progressed we saw other alliances come to querious to attack bob of which we engaged you in gangs together and that my friend is as far as it went . No allegance was formed , no coalition and certainly no longterm plans agreed to . As i said previously SA and our allies have never laid claim to querious (except for taking space from fix) nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold and if we were going to I myself would make a statement to that effect . What the general membership of SA post here should be taken with a pinch of salt exactly the same way other alliances work . Official posts regarding SA come from me and no one else . Over the few weeks that we played with other alliances for the first time I have made a few new friends and am glad of that . I will spend a moment also to give a little kudos to the corps in fix that remain , they stand up for what they believe in and credit is due for that . The war with Fix shall continue its course . I hope that clarifies things a little and if any more is needed im sure you know where the evemail button is . ttfn Thanks trigger for the clear shot, i honestly meant to ask that question as it was unclear for me how the so called coalition operated. Especially since there was mixed information handed out publically from various "high ups" and "grunts" throughout all alliances involved (and marked as coda by bob members) and i got a very confusing impression. Pardon me my friend for not dropping you an ingame mail, sadly my current computer doesnt allow me to choose that path until im home end of the week. After clearing this up with the help of trigger i must wonder with SA, Huzzah and Smash following their own goals, Xirtams awakening gets a whole new taste. His coalition of the willing contains of Vox, VC, FA and Imp - what are their followup plans since their goal, destruction of all bob forces in querious was clearly defined but not met ?
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:16:00 - [428] Originally by: Nick Curso coordination lending out a helping hand to damage your enemis we all know that working together wen needed is alot better than not woulden't u agree? But as for a coalition i see that as working together for a single goal leaders descussing and makeing goals together for that one goal AFAIK that wasnt the situation some were there for BoB others for FIX fact is were hostile to both. So is alot of eve does that make us all a coalition because we are all - to BoB? If that doesnt make sense i blame late nights and early mornings :) if u wish to descuss it further feel free to convo me in game at any time :) have a good rest, and as i said - the forum is not just for flaming. Sometimes a good discussion based on a few good questions is quiet refreshing. Thanks for the replies - prolly it has cleared up some missunderstandings (not just for me) of how the forces against bob worked.
Korun Kiatarr	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:24:00 - [429] The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best.
Scifa	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:27:00 - [430] Originally by: Korun Kiatarr The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best. LMAO If thats what you think.

Ordep	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:28:00 - [431] Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Korun Kiatarr The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best. LMAO If thats what you think. THAT is what is happening now Made in Portugal
Johnny Wulgaru	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:31:00 - [432] Edited by: Johnny Wulgaru on 31/05/2006 15:31:28 Quote: And so it came to pass, After months of free reign and tyranny, the alliance to eclipse all others held the universe to ransom with a level of control and organisation never seen before,Band of Brothers ruled Eve dominions with an iron grip. Whisperings among the denizens began, the louder it grew in proportion to the growth of BoB, whisperings of times past and times to come, a planted seed of hope that began to grow and nurture and started the journey towards the light of the sun, rising upwards, still hidden under the shadow of the mighty BoB tree. The seed, unlike others which perished at a young age, was from different stock to the others, a small seed, but a seed dropped from a legacy of the past, nestled within the foliage of mass of decomposing failures of others, the seed was nourished and began to grow, and slowly reach towards the light high in the sky. Today the seed is no more, the seed has now transformed into a sturdy youngtree, with deep roots feeding from the food given back to the soil by the relentlessBoB destruction of those who fell before their hands. Prepare my friends, for all that we know will change, the time is close to hand, those that have sowed the seeds of discontent shall reap their rewards and will pay the ultimate price. The vines of the seed even now tighten the grip of the BoB tree, sucking from it life itself, the creaking can be heard in the forest as the birds fly begin to fly away, already knowing that nature has begun to reclaim that which has had itÆs time. They have returned to claim what was always theirsààà. I'm so effing confused right now. So sez Johnny~~
Korun Kiatarr	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:31:00 - [433] No offense Scifa, but with the heavy losses the CODA forces took in 9cg and the clear lack of Dreads i dont see how theyll be able to form an organized counterattack, let alone take Querious.
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:31:00 - [434] Originally by: Nick Curso Edited by: Nick Curso on 31/05/2006 15:17:47 coordination lending out a helping hand to damage your enemis we all know that working together wen needed is alot better than not woulden't u agree? But as for a coalition i see that as working together for a single goal leaders descussing and makeing goals together for that one goal AFAIK that wasnt the situation some were there for BoB others for FIX fact is were hostile to both. So is alot of eve does that make us all a coalition because we are all - to BoB? If that doesnt make sense i blame late nights and early mornings :) if u wish to descuss it further feel free to convo me in game at any time :) BTW i apologise for the bluntness of my last post it seemd as if u latched onto a section of what i said and twisted it as alot of do on these bords. No need for apology Nick. The reason I see 'CODA' as an actual coalition is because terms were delivered to FIX as a group, covering the various interests of all parties involved. In my own eyes, a coalition doesn't need a single leader, just a compatible set of interests. In the terms delivered to FIX, part of it was the disbandment of FIX as an alliance, something that neither Smash nor Vox really cared about, and it was made apparent that certain corporations would be able to join Huzzah if conditions were met; only SA was really looking for an end of FIX, and the terms demonstrated their participation in setting out the 'end game' with your allies. I have doubts that Vox or Smash would have made a play for 3bk or h74 without an invitation to participate. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Scifa	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:31:00 - [435] Originally by: Ordep Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Korun Kiatarr The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best. LMAO If thats what you think. THAT is what is happening now Lies... It's all lies no of it's true, beleave what you want.
Zenovia Hyradine	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:34:00 - [436] Originally by: Ordep Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Korun Kiatarr The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best. LMAO If thats what you think. THAT is what is happening now Yes, perfect, keep thinking this is what is happening. We are weak and insignificant, hardly worth your troubles at all. Seeing is believing afterall. With those "heavy" losses we took how will we ever recover.
Ordep	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:35:00 - [437] Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Ordep Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Korun Kiatarr The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best. LMAO If thats what you think. THAT is what is happening now Lies... It's all lies no of it's true, beleave what you want. No need to beleave. I¦m here and you not. Thats prove enough for me Made in Portugal
BlackRain	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:36:00 - [438] Originally by: Divine Devastation Almost every one was true at the point of posting, telling someone you've done something when you haven't yet still remains premature even if becomes true at a later date. It has more to do with the wording of the original molle-post than anything else. But the fact remains. We backed up our words ingame and Querious now belongs to BoB. Thankyou. Quote: I must say I'm also impressed that the SA people who remain active on this thread are not flaming at all, in fact providing interesting responses to questions I had been asking myself, this is incredibly refreshing, kudos TRIGGER. That does not remove the fact that earlier on a lot of boasting, chestbeating and later on whining came from our enemies. Of course, at this very moment TRIGGER and Nick are posting sensible answers. So no biggie there. Quote: I think the alliances involved deserve to be proud, when BOB brought it to them they didn't just leave they fought and won the first engagements. Then BOB no doubt somewhat embarassed by their initial loses brought in the rest of their alliance. Let's recap a bit - Which "first engagements" did you actually win? Or are you referring to the sad incident which led into Marv getting killed? Quote: I'll drop in some irony here, SirMolle himself made the following statement which if were indeed true then BOB would not of required to double their numbers surely? "Let this be a lesson to all future coalitions, when you are going to "bring it", do it properly, and have some stamina. Numbers alone wont do it." So, we come on a little roadtrip and then leave for home. When we're comfortably sitting in Delve again, we get a word that you'd killed Marv while sieging our POS. Of course, a big boast-storm commences on the forums, which in the end, through a couple of twists and turns, leads into the situation in which we currently are. Quote: They achieved their objective too, as FIX no longer hold Querious and I'm sure they are stronger for the fights with BOB as they have seen they can win fights against BOB. o_O Are you seriously claiming that you came out from this whole thing as a winner? Quote: I would think that the BOB management are far from celebrating a victory, more like planning how they can prevent this new threat from getting the upper hand next time. Your coalition lasted a huge amount of three days of proper warfare at it's first attempt before fleeing. I don't think that made anyone push the big red panic button yet. ------------------- -
Scifa	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:40:00 - [439] Originally by: Ordep Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Ordep Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Korun Kiatarr The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best. LMAO If thats what you think. THAT is what is happening now Lies... It's all lies no of it's true, beleave what you want. No need to beleave. I¦m here and you not. Thats prove enough for me Just because you are here or there and post it on the forums doesn't mean a thing.
Mathra	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:42:00 - [440] Allright, maybe BOB will let me get my stuff from my FIX-days out? ... Neeeh, didn't think so either... Maybe if I fought my way trough the 300-man blob...

Ku'Gras	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:43:00 - [441] Originally by: Divine Devastation I would think that the BOB management are far from celebrating a victory, more like planning how they can prevent this new threat from getting the upper hand next time. you just proved that you are no threat even if you worked together towards same goal in the same system.
Ordep	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:44:00 - [442] Originally by: Scifa Just because you are here or there and post it on the forums doesn't mean a thing. Oh God.. you for real ?! I think you catching up on Xirtam ilusional mind trip Made in Portugal
Nira Li	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:46:00 - [443] If it was Xirtam who lead your fleet last sunday night, I feel very bad for you You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
DeadProphet	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:47:00 - [444] Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Ordep Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Korun Kiatarr The so called "Coalition" is already breaking apart. SA and HF probably arent too happy about Xirtams announcements since they were in it to kill FIX and have to take all the heat now. SMASH and VOX seem to be losing corps and it has to be seen if theyre capable of rebuilding. IMP/FA/VC will just go hide in aridia/fountain/stain I guess, its what they do best. LMAO If thats what you think. THAT is what is happening now Lies... It's all lies no of it's true, beleave what you want. well, SA seem to be trying to distance themselves from you, do they not? something they didn't care to do before your defeat in 9CG. the coalition appears to be falling apart tbh.
Korun Kiatarr	Posted - 2006.05.31 15:50:00 - [445] TBH all CODA has proven is that they can form an unorganized 200 man blob that is 70% T1 fitted. I dont think there is any chance of them taking Querious unless they get their organization and logistics sorted out. When I see 100+ T2 fitted BS in their fleets supporting 20+ Dreads ill acknowledge their potential, but until then they simply are no match for BoB at all.
Scifa	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:01:00 - [446] Wow took three of you that time.
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:02:00 - [447] Reading this thread is like watching a group of people pat each other on the back while trying to force everyone else to believe something though sheer force of numbers. Some of these pages are almost entirely responses of BoB members. I declare this tread officially trolled and give the truth distortion award to BoB for their use of Peer Pressure Propaganda.
Shadar Ishaan	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:05:00 - [448] LOL @ Smash/Vox + anyone else suckered in by SA/HF promises. Look how quickly they left you out in the cold. All you have to show for you efforts are a new set of enemies that have already said they will be looking for payback. If I were HF, I'd be worried that SA would cut me loose when BoB comes for me. Get your own set of jump clones for 15 million ISK!
Backdoor Bandit	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:11:00 - [449] Cut them loose? How could Stain do that? Unless they helped them move into recently taken conquerable stations in Catch while simultaneously extracting to Agil that is. Actually, I take it all back. Orc A is a genius! -------------
Backdoor Bandit	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:11:00 - [450] Cut them loose? How could Stain EVE Online \| EVE Insider \| Forums

untook	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:15:00 - [451] Originally by: TRIGGER I will clarify for you . SA has allies inc huzzah , Smash . As allies we have common goals . As time progressed we saw other alliances come to querious to attack bob of which we engaged you in gangs together and that my friend is as far as it went . No allegance was formed , no coalition and certainly no longterm plans agreed to . As i said previously SA and our allies have never laid claim to querious (except for taking space from fix) nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold and if we were going to I myself would make a statement to that effect . What the general membership of SA post here should be taken with a pinch of salt exactly the same way other alliances work . Official posts regarding SA come from me and no one else . Over the few weeks that we played with other alliances for the first time I have made a few new friends and am glad of that . I will spend a moment also to give a little kudos to the corps in fix that remain , they stand up for what they believe in and credit is due for that . The war with Fix shall continue its course . I hope that clarifies things a little and if any more is needed im sure you know where the evemail button is . ttfn Ok I understand SAs motivation - to kill FIX I understand Huzzahs motivation - to get FAT but then it gets a bit fuzzy for me... I would have guessed that maybe the other allies had been promised parts of Querious for their role but you are suggesting that the other members of the Super best friends (Smash, Vox etc...) were not interested in Querious and were only there to fight BoB? What i don't understand is why did they even bother going to Querious at all then? Let alone try to claim stations etc... It is not a secret that BoB lives in Delve.
Klaryssa	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:17:00 - [452] Originally by: Sonya Casiros Reading this thread is like watching a group of people pat each other on the back while trying to force everyone else to believe something though sheer force of numbers. Some of these pages are almost entirely responses of BoB members. I declare this tread officially trolled and give the truth distortion award to BoB for their use of Peer Pressure Propaganda. Sonya Casiros The Ministry of Propaganda LOL. Actually, I see quite a few '!' posts as well. As for the actual topic: We came, we saw, they got cloned back in empire. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:21:00 - [453] Originally by: Scifa LMAO If thats what you think. smack on I think its time you and all of yours go back to sentry tanking/low sec station hugging in aridia tbfh. Your obviously incapable of doing much else smack off My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
Korun Kiatarr	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:23:00 - [454] Originally by: untook Ok I understand SAs motivation - to kill FIX I understand Huzzahs motivation - to get FAT but then it gets a bit fuzzy for me... I would have guessed that maybe the other allies had been promised parts of Querious for their role but you are suggesting that the other members of the Super best friends (Smash, Vox etc...) were not interested in Querious and were only there to fight BoB? What i don't understand is why did they even bother going to Querious at all then? Let alone try to claim stations etc... It is not a secret that BoB lives in Delve. I think SMASH and VOX were promised Querious and VC/FA/IMP + the other random corps in 9cg just wanted to fight bob.
Scifa	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:29:00 - [455] Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Scifa LMAO If thats what you think. smack on I think its time you and all of yours go back to sentry tanking/low sec station hugging in aridia tbfh. Your obviously incapable of doing much else smack off You should ask one your BoB comrades to sort out the kill mail you should be on.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:31:00 - [456] Originally by: Kcel Chim i get the feeling we see a typical display of eve finest coverup excuses now. "we didnt want that region anyways" "our goals are different from the banter we posted" "we had an emergency elsewhere, be back soon guys" Getting abit old but was to be exspected from the "coda" forces, afterall they are "dead" because they couldnt hold the territory the first time. As for blacklights impressive list of quotes, i would like to remind him about Xirtams yada yada regarding trees and OrcA's incredible statements of intent. Trigger, from past dealings and the way you handled the old Sa you shouldnt hang out in a coalition where half the leaders seem to have different goals and loudly announce them. If, as you say, Coda had no interest of fighting a prolonged war against bob, you should look for new partners because the current ones were advertising exactly that, publically and internally. Ah well ill just wait for the next Coda announcement, in the vain hope that it wasnt a 1 time thing, however im more then surprised to see the darklord once again hiding in shadows, leaving a destroyed fleet behind and a formerly claimed region abandoned. Your post perfectly describes the hilarity of this entire operation. While it may have been some of the most short lived invasions I have ever seen in my life, it was one of the most fun for me. In shortest words possible, Stain wanted to destroy FIX utterly, Imperium/VC/FA wanted to have some sort of "awakening" which probably signifies a stronger position in EVE politics, Vox/smash wanted to see themselves on the map, and have a home of their own. For months you struggled to wear down FIX, and just at the hour of your complete victory. Bam! None of it happened. Now we get to hear the myriad of excuses and spin as to why you didn't fail, how you managed to secure victory on some obscure plane of thought, and how you'll return because the war is far from over. You know who you remind me of? PA. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:33:00 - [457] And i think this thread need to close. "Nice region, we took it, its ours. If you wish to use it, speak to Dianabolic. Cleaning up will be done in the nearest weeks, to take out all the trash. Thats all." I think this statement few days earlier clearly descrabing situations in Querious atm. Yes? No? If you want to discuss about any other thematic, i suggest you jump in to another thread...plenty of those I bet last few pages make my head hurt DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:34:00 - [458] Edited by: Sonya Casiros on 31/05/2006 16:36:55 Originally by: Korun Kiatarr Originally by: untook Ok I understand SAs motivation - to kill FIX I understand Huzzahs motivation - to get FAT but then it gets a bit fuzzy for me... I would have guessed that maybe the other allies had been promised parts of Querious for their role but you are suggesting that the other members of the Super best friends (Smash, Vox etc...) were not interested in Querious and were only there to fight BoB? What i don't understand is why did they even bother going to Querious at all then? Let alone try to claim stations etc... It is not a secret that BoB lives in Delve. I think SMASH and VOX were promised Querious and VC/FA/IMP + the other random corps in 9cg just wanted to fight bob. As I understand it, IMP/VC/FA were invited to help remove FIX. There was no goal involving BoB at all... except maybe some good fights. Its really a shame that all you really see from BoB on the forums is arrogance and flaming. Nobody really cares how leet BoB members think they are and when we, the members of EvE, see 15 posts in a row of "We're better than you, you suck" we just have to roll our eyes . Sure their enemies respond in kind, but you have 1 10:1 ratio on BoB member posts versus the rest of eve posts. Is BoB so insecure about their position in game that they have to flame, troll, and spam the forums full of garbage so much to quiet any notion that they may have lost some battles/ships/money or whatnot? I mean seriously... there is 16 pages of "We're better than you" x10 "No, we're better than you"x1
Mira Sorento	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:42:00 - [459] Edited by: Mira Sorento on 31/05/2006 16:43:22 Originally by: Darcuese And i think this thread need to close. aww.. reckon the thread has some more amusing moments in it yet.... its not everday that a coaltion of dead alliances, renounces on eachother and claim to have never met... reminds me of the Private Eye cover from a couple of months back when the Tessa Jowell scandal was kicking off.. the cover ran Tessa Jowell denies everything .."I've never met my husband". P.S only the Brits will get this allegory.
FGxHalsey	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:43:00 - [460] BoB members once claimed that using tech 1 frigates and cruisers was a sign of financial strain and weakness. Anyone want to comment on why BoB was fielding alot of tech 1 frigates and cruisers this past weekend (especially since they hold the BPO's to the tech 2 stuff)? Not that I really care, I'm sure you'll find a way to spin around your own logic.

Shimpu	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:47:00 - [461] Originally by: Korun Kiatarr TBH all CODA has proven is that they can form an unorganized 200 man blob that is 70% T1 fitted. I dont think there is any chance of them taking Querious unless they get their organization and logistics sorted out. When I see 100+ T2 fitted BS in their fleets supporting 20+ Dreads ill acknowledge their potential, but until then they simply are no match for BoB at all. I bet they intensivate their efforts to get acknowledgement by you Mr. Alt This thread and the couple of 'BoB threats' before read: 1. Xirtam makes a (pathetic) post and get's insta-flamed "Lollerskates, you are all dead alliances. Bring the Ibis of Doom" 2. 'CODA' brings the fight and get's minimal acknowledgement by BoB leaders 3. Three seconds later they get spanked by BoB forum soldiers when BoB eventually ends CODA's dream of victory 4. Flamefest¦ What CODA did was a brave attempt to spank BoB's ass. This alone deserves respect. Most entities in this game won't even try. In my opinion BoB has just shown again that they bear great powers but behave like a bunch of street thugs. The reason BoB get's flamed so much isn't only because they currently seem to win this game, but because of the way they communicate on the forum.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:48:00 - [462] Originally by: FGxHalsey BoB members once claimed that using tech 1 frigates and cruisers was a sign of financial strain and weakness. Anyone want to comment on why BoB was fielding alot of tech 1 frigates and cruisers this past weekend (especially since they hold the BPO's to the tech 2 stuff)? Not that I really care, I'm sure you'll find a way to spin around your own logic. Carriers dear boy, carriers. Instant, cheap and easy replacement ships for 'during' the fighting. Then as soon as things quieten down the chaps can sail home drop off their temporary ship and pick up a new BS/HAC/Interdictor/DeathStar/Death Ray Wielding Inflatable Womble and come back again! Simple really Eve Blacklight Style
Lord Violent	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:49:00 - [463] Originally by: FGxHalsey Anyone want to comment on why BoB was fielding alot of tech 1 frigates and cruisers this past weekend For A Challenge?
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:50:00 - [464] to the propaganda guy, what about Xirtams Awakening posts? all wind? or just putting on a show? I could believe you if it wasnt for those posts tbh Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:50:00 - [465] what blacklight was saying. we have logistics planned unlike [CODA], our guys take a ship from a carrier do some tackling and then head home ot pick up the good stuff. works nicely FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA
FGxHalsey	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:54:00 - [466] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: FGxHalsey BoB members once claimed that using tech 1 frigates and cruisers was a sign of financial strain and weakness. Anyone want to comment on why BoB was fielding alot of tech 1 frigates and cruisers this past weekend (especially since they hold the BPO's to the tech 2 stuff)? Not that I really care, I'm sure you'll find a way to spin around your own logic. Carriers dear boy, carriers. Instant, cheap and easy replacement ships for 'during' the fighting. Then as soon as things quieten down the chaps can sail home drop off their temporary ship and pick up a new BS/HAC/Interdictor/DeathStar/Death Ray Wielding Inflatable Womble and come back again! Simple really It was more of a rhetorical question. Its ok for BoB to use T1 frigs and cruisers, but when an enemy does, they claim its a sign of weakness and proof of BoB's dominance. I personally don't care what people fly. Fly what you enjoy flying.
Yodaron Ballsithor	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:57:00 - [467] Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 31/05/2006 16:57:31 Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: Kcel Chim i get the feeling we see a typical display of eve finest coverup excuses now. "we didnt want that region anyways" "our goals are different from the banter we posted" "we had an emergency elsewhere, be back soon guys" Getting abit old but was to be exspected from the "coda" forces, afterall they are "dead" because they couldnt hold the territory the first time. As for blacklights impressive list of quotes, i would like to remind him about Xirtams yada yada regarding trees and OrcA's incredible statements of intent. Trigger, from past dealings and the way you handled the old Sa you shouldnt hang out in a coalition where half the leaders seem to have different goals and loudly announce them. If, as you say, Coda had no interest of fighting a prolonged war against bob, you should look for new partners because the current ones were advertising exactly that, publically and internally. Ah well ill just wait for the next Coda announcement, in the vain hope that it wasnt a 1 time thing, however im more then surprised to see the darklord once again hiding in shadows, leaving a destroyed fleet behind and a formerly claimed region abandoned. Your post perfectly describes the hilarity of this entire operation. While it may have been some of the most short lived invasions I have ever seen in my life, it was one of the most fun for me. In shortest words possible, Stain wanted to destroy FIX utterly, Imperium/VC/FA wanted to have some sort of "awakening" which probably signifies a stronger position in EVE politics, Vox/smash wanted to see themselves on the map, and have a home of their own. For months you struggled to wear down FIX, and just at the hour of your complete victory. Bam! None of it happened. Now we get to hear the myriad of excuses and spin as to why you didn't fail, how you managed to secure victory on some obscure plane of thought, and how you'll return because the war is far from over. You know who you remind me of? PA. From the CFS days forward to FIX, I can honestly say that I have always respected and appreciated Digital's clear thinking and his ability to actually put it in writing. Kudos, my friend. Yoda Out
ChingChong Stoner	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:58:00 - [468] Originally by: TRIGGER I will clarify for you . SA has allies inc huzzah , Smash . As allies we have common goals . As time progressed we saw other alliances come to querious to attack bob of which we engaged you in gangs together and that my friend is as far as it went . No allegance was formed , no coalition and certainly no longterm plans agreed to . As i said previously SA and our allies have never laid claim to querious (except for taking space from fix) nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold and if we were going to I myself would make a statement to that effect . What the general membership of SA post here should be taken with a pinch of salt exactly the same way other alliances work . Official posts regarding SA come from me and no one else . Over the few weeks that we played with other alliances for the first time I have made a few new friends and am glad of that . I will spend a moment also to give a little kudos to the corps in fix that remain , they stand up for what they believe in and credit is due for that . The war with Fix shall continue its course . I hope that clarifies things a little and if any more is needed im sure you know where the evemail button is . ttfn Shhhh. you need to play more before being able to talk for SA. logging in for 20 mins every other day is not enough.
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:00:00 - [469] Edited by: Sonya Casiros on 31/05/2006 17:06:31 Originally by: Hast to the propaganda guy, what about Xirtams Awakening posts? all wind? or just putting on a show? I could believe you if it wasnt for those posts tbh I only read the original post and not the following pages. I took it as an announcement that he was going to form a large group or attack someone. My intelligence sources had already confirmed what they were doing so I pretty much stayed out of the thread. (I saw the flame wars coming and wasn't suprised when the thread was locked) I liked the roleplay/story way he wrote the posts though. I wish more people would make posts like that. Adds more to the game imho when people get creative. Though I have to admit... he did lay it on a little too thick in my opinion. He probably caused BoB to think more was going on that actually was the case. I think Imperium/VC/FA were invited by Smash/HF/VI/SA to help remove FIX. IMP/VC/FA are known BoB enemies so when Xirt posted his thread, BoB probably got the idea that all these alliances were reforming Curse or something and coming to NOL as soon as 9CG fell. In typical BoB ways, they attacked before any foothold could be formed. If they hadn't who knows though... maybe a new large alliance would have been formed. One that would challenge BoB.
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:03:00 - [470] Originally by: Sonya Casiros Originally by: Hast to the propaganda guy, what about Xirtams Awakening posts? all wind? or just putting on a show? I could believe you if it wasnt for those posts tbh I only read the original post and not the following pages. I took it as an announcement that he was going to form a large group or attack someone. My intelligence sources had already confirmed what they were doing so I pretty much stayed out of the thread. (I saw the flame wars coming and wasn't suprised when the thread was locked) I liked the roleplay/story way he wrote the posts though. I wish more people would make posts like that. Adds more to the game imho when people get creative. in the original post he mentions BoB's reign of terror over the galaxy and that it would soon end. Please try harder little alt Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS

Novarei	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:05:00 - [471] I like the name coda, it reminds me of that disney film. +-----------------------------------------------+
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:07:00 - [472] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Sonya Casiros Originally by: Hast to the propaganda guy, what about Xirtams Awakening posts? all wind? or just putting on a show? I could believe you if it wasnt for those posts tbh I only read the original post and not the following pages. I took it as an announcement that he was going to form a large group or attack someone. My intelligence sources had already confirmed what they were doing so I pretty much stayed out of the thread. (I saw the flame wars coming and wasn't suprised when the thread was locked) I liked the roleplay/story way he wrote the posts though. I wish more people would make posts like that. Adds more to the game imho when people get creative. in the original post he mentions BoB's reign of terror over the galaxy and that it would soon end. Please try harder little alt Got interrupted. Read the post again. I added on to it.
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:09:00 - [473] Originally by: Novarei I like the name coda, it reminds me of that disney film. I'm sure people read it as "Koda", but I can't help thinking, "Soda"... then I get thirsty.
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:10:00 - [474] Originally by: FGxHalsey Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: FGxHalsey BoB members once claimed that using tech 1 frigates and cruisers was a sign of financial strain and weakness. Anyone want to comment on why BoB was fielding alot of tech 1 frigates and cruisers this past weekend (especially since they hold the BPO's to the tech 2 stuff)? Not that I really care, I'm sure you'll find a way to spin around your own logic. Carriers dear boy, carriers. Instant, cheap and easy replacement ships for 'during' the fighting. Then as soon as things quieten down the chaps can sail home drop off their temporary ship and pick up a new BS/HAC/Interdictor/DeathStar/Death Ray Wielding Inflatable Womble and come back again! Simple really It was more of a rhetorical question. Its ok for BoB to use T1 frigs and cruisers, but when an enemy does, they claim its a sign of weakness and proof of BoB's dominance. I personally don't care what people fly. Fly what you enjoy flying. thats because you turn up with them. we use them as a last resort.a way to get home of to get back into the fight after just dying. we turn up in inters/interdics/bs/hacs/carriers our ships for the majority use tech 2 you dont. u dont. we take that as a sign or weakness because of either your inability to get these ships or your unwillingness to fly them against us FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA
FGxHalsey	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:15:00 - [475] Edited by: FGxHalsey on 31/05/2006 17:16:58 Edited by: FGxHalsey on 31/05/2006 17:15:37 Originally by: StiZum Hilidii thats because you turn up with them. we use them as a last resort.a way to get home of to get back into the fight after just dying. we turn up in inters/interdics/bs/hacs/carriers our ships for the majority use tech 2 you dont. u dont. we take that as a sign or weakness because of either your inability to get these ships or your unwillingness to fly them against us Like I said: BoB flying T1 stuff = OK Anyone else = not OK/weak/pathetic On a side note, are you admitting that CODA forced you to your last resort of T1 frigates/cruisers?
BlackRain	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:16:00 - [476] Originally by: FGxHalsey It was more of a rhetorical question. Its ok for BoB to use T1 frigs and cruisers, but when an enemy does, they claim its a sign of weakness and proof of BoB's dominance. I personally don't care what people fly. Fly what you enjoy flying. Hehe. I don't really care what you guys fly either. This just simply made me chuckle a bit since not that long ago someone from your camp analyzed that the reason why you lost was our tech 2 advantage. And now suddenly having some people with carrier-replacement ships in our gang is somehow a bad thing. Can't keep everyone happy I guess. Go figure :D ------------------- -
FGxHalsey	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:24:00 - [477] Originally by: BlackRain Originally by: FGxHalsey It was more of a rhetorical question. Its ok for BoB to use T1 frigs and cruisers, but when an enemy does, they claim its a sign of weakness and proof of BoB's dominance. I personally don't care what people fly. Fly what you enjoy flying. Hehe. I don't really care what you guys fly either. This just simply made me chuckle a bit since not that long ago someone from your camp analyzed that the reason why you lost was our tech 2 advantage. And now suddenly having some people with carrier-replacement ships in our gang is somehow a bad thing. Can't keep everyone happy I guess. Go figure :D Fair enough. Though I wish you guys would use T1 frigates/cruisers more often. I personally love flying some of the T1 stuff and would probably give you more good fights whenever I see the BoBs fly though. Example: I'm mission running in a T1 cruiser, caracal for instance, and a BoB stops by in local. He is in a Cerberus. I think, "oh I'm not going to win against that and he'll be gone by the time I do get something that will compete." So I go my merry way. If he was in a caracal as well, I would go out of my way to give him a good fight. I do remember the thread where the T2 advantage was pulled. I think it was in a response to a BoB claiming that there wasn't any good fights going on.
Hast	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:28:00 - [478] Originally by: FGxHalsey snip No offence but what you are saying is that instead of evolving or stepping up to us, you want us to step down to you? Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:29:00 - [479] Originally by: Hast Originally by: FGxHalsey snip No offence but what you are saying is that instead of evolving or stepping up to us, you want us to step down to you? They said the same thing to us when we fought them in empire
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:49:00 - [480] Originally by: ChingChong Stoner Originally by: TRIGGER I will clarify for you . SA has allies inc huzzah , Smash . As allies we have common goals . As time progressed we saw other alliances come to querious to attack bob of which we engaged you in gangs together and that my friend is as far as it went . No allegance was formed , no coalition and certainly no longterm plans agreed to . As i said previously SA and our allies have never laid claim to querious (except for taking space from fix) nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold and if we were going to I myself would make a statement to that effect . What the general membership of SA post here should be taken with a pinch of salt exactly the same way other alliances work . Official posts regarding SA come from me and no one else . Over the few weeks that we played with other alliances for the first time I have made a few new friends and am glad of that . I will spend a moment also to give a little kudos to the corps in fix that remain , they stand up for what they believe in and credit is due for that . The war with Fix shall continue its course . I hope that clarifies things a little and if any more is needed im sure you know where the evemail button is . ttfn Shhhh. you need to play more before being able to talk for SA. logging in for 20 mins every other day is not enough. sorry mr.alt, even if he logged in only 10 seconds a month trigger would be more able to talk for "stain" then anyone else in this game.Eventho we are on different "sides" History and respect combined with a smart mind make a character to be recognized not "how much time you have this month". Thank god there is enough ppl in this game who use this philosophy instead of following ppl like you.

Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:52:00 - [481] Originally by: FGxHalsey Like I said: BoB flying T1 stuff = OK Anyone else = not OK/weak/pathetic On a side note, are you admitting that CODA forced you to your last resort of T1 frigates/cruisers? You remind me of a certain age of mankind where the beeings just cover their ears and repeat over and over their own wisdom until they have hammered in to the other person. Read what he wrote, reply to it. Dont push "reply" and copy and paste your last post again. It is ok if you lose a ship, grab a replacement (t1) and scramble right back into battle. Mocked was using t1 ships purely for the "cheapness" and the throw away mentality some corps developed in the past (HUN with their suicide thoraxes anyone?). Big difference there. Not to mention back in the days imperium was mocked for their "t1ness" there were no carriers ingame. Different situation, different story (happens often in life tbh).
Kai Jyokoroi	Posted - 2006.05.31 17:56:00 - [482] Originally by: Kryztal Edited by: Kryztal on 31/05/2006 03:34:52 Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi Edited by: Kai Jyokoroi on 31/05/2006 03:00:27 Please, just stop the smack on both sides. I just try to do what my alliance bosses tell me to do. I am just as sick of people on my side shooting off their mouths on here and on teamspeak, yelling ALL the time about how ***** BoB are as I am with the CONSTANT forum peen waving on both the BoB side and the CODA side. Flaimbait.... You really think your post did anything but aggrivate people? Post was nothing but a dig at BoB so your "please, just stop the smack both sides" was kinda ironic. I might have valued your input if you had stopped after the first few lines. But the rest was pure flamebait. edited cos im tired No, I think you misunderstood it because you read it when you were tired. If you read my post again you'll find that I was not flaming you at all. I was TRYING to say I respect you as opponents and I'm just as sick of the people on my side smacktalking you on our teamspeak as I am with the bragging you do on the forums. I am saying that I'm against the smack on both sides. Seriously, that's what it says. Read it again. _____________ The day I receive my first moderator forum-sig hijack is the day I realise I have won Eve.
FGxHalsey	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:00:00 - [483] Edited by: FGxHalsey on 31/05/2006 18:04:58 Originally by: Hast Originally by: FGxHalsey snip No offence but what you are saying is that instead of evolving or stepping up to us, you want us to step down to you? No, I said that I don't give a crap and fly what you like. I'm pointing out your inconsistancy. Don't complain about lack of fights when you bring a tech 2 ship into an area with 1 or 2 people in tech 1's. And don't be a hypocrite about flying tech 1 stuff either. Man, some people really need it spelled out for them completely. BTW, in any other game, you would be laughed at. Its like a level 60 MC geared warrior in Warcraft complaining that level 30's don't want to fight him. Originally by: Hast Translation No offence but what you are saying is that you want me to give up my good gear so we can have a fun, even match? I laugh at the thought! I would never do something fun like that.
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:02:00 - [484] Originally by: FGxHalsey Originally by: Hast Originally by: FGxHalsey snip No offence but what you are saying is that instead of evolving or stepping up to us, you want us to step down to you? No, I said that I don't give a crap and fly what you like. I'm pointing out your inconsistancy. Don't complain about lack of fights when you bring a tech 2 ship into an area with 1 or 2 people in tech 1's. And don't be a hypocrite about flying tech 1 stuff either. Man, some people really need it spelled out for them completely. BTW, in any other game, you would be laughed at. Its like a level 60 MC geared warrior in Warcraft complaining that level 30's don't want to fight him. so your either saying we completely outclass you with ships and skills or that we are playing unfair using the best items in game? FREE PERSON OF EARTH AGAINST EVE IN COMMUNIST CHINA
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:05:00 - [485] Originally by: FGxHalsey Man, some people really need it spelled out for them completely. BTW, in any other game, you would be laughed at. Its like a level 60 MC geared warrior in Warcraft complaining that level 30's don't want to fight him. Thank god this isnt world of kidcraft and your metaphor is wrong in so many ways im not gonna spill it all out for you. The playerbase itself wanted more shipclasses, advanced gear and no more solopwnmobiles. Otherwise we would be back in the (good old) days of 2 bs roaming instead of the current situation. You get what you ask for so dont complain about t2 and more shipclasses now..
FGxHalsey	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:09:00 - [486] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Originally by: FGxHalsey Originally by: Hast Originally by: FGxHalsey snip No offence but what you are saying is that instead of evolving or stepping up to us, you want us to step down to you? No, I said that I don't give a crap and fly what you like. I'm pointing out your inconsistancy. Don't complain about lack of fights when you bring a tech 2 ship into an area with 1 or 2 people in tech 1's. And don't be a hypocrite about flying tech 1 stuff either. Man, some people really need it spelled out for them completely. BTW, in any other game, you would be laughed at. Its like a level 60 MC geared warrior in Warcraft complaining that level 30's don't want to fight him. so your either saying we completely outclass you with ships and skills or that we are playing unfair using the best items in game? Wrong. Again I say, I don't give a crap, fly what you like. I just think its funny how many of the BoB forum trolls would defend to death their use of T1 frigs and cruisers yet make fun of others for doing the same.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:09:00 - [487] Except that in WoW that lvl 30 has no chance of killing the lvl 60, and that even if he does the lvl 60 won't lose much of anything right ? (Let alone that two lvl 30's would have an easy time against him if they ganged up on him) Flying tech2 means you are somewhat more powerfull, for a much higher risk. We can't really help that others aren't organised well enough to get the majority of their members into tech2, something I personally don't mind much. But saying that flying t2 is weak and like pvp on easy mode is something else entirely my friend I don't mind people flying tech1 fleets, altho it reeks of risk avoidance beyond the neccesary (I mean, If i can make enough to fly t2 so can you. You just don't want to risk your precious isk on that I guess). If that's what's happening then that's what's happening. Your attempt at pointing out a so called inconsistency in our words is rather weak however, since aside from what you think about t1 versus t2 in pvp, we don't make a habit of flying t1 at all, as pointed out. Sometimes it just serves our purposes, like when you need to replace some tacklers out of a carrier and eject them into a POS that's open for all the alliance for example. Old blog
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:18:00 - [488] Edited by: Darcuese on 31/05/2006 18:23:35 Originally by: FGxHalsey Wrong. Again I say, I don't give a crap, fly what you like. I just think its funny how many of the BoB forum trolls would defend to death their use of T1 frigs and cruisers yet make fun of others for doing the same. Yet again, if i say something regarding this subject, you will post that reply over and over again. Are you so narrow minded? I think not, cause only idiot wouldnt understand and make difference between t1 on daily basis and T1 in fleet fight taken from carrier. Are you an idiot?...if so, , im sorry....you are human too Anyway, I lost zealot and sacrlige in 9cg...I bet my losses with modules are far more higher then many hostile pilot losses. Do I care?...I dont give a sh.t. Cause those ships and modules are to be used and not to picking up dust in hangars. That is a the difference...some ppl like collect ISK...others like to spend it in jolly good and entertaining way. Most of BoB dont cvare about their losses...and that is what make us better then rest DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:25:00 - [489] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Originally by: FGxHalsey Originally by: Hast Originally by: FGxHalsey snip No offence but what you are saying is that instead of evolving or stepping up to us, you want us to step down to you? No, I said that I don't give a crap and fly what you like. I'm pointing out your inconsistancy. Don't complain about lack of fights when you bring a tech 2 ship into an area with 1 or 2 people in tech 1's. And don't be a hypocrite about flying tech 1 stuff either. Man, some people really need it spelled out for them completely. BTW, in any other game, you would be laughed at. Its like a level 60 MC geared warrior in Warcraft complaining that level 30's don't want to fight him. so your either saying we completely outclass you with ships and skills or that we are playing unfair using the best items in game? Use capital letters, noob! Hi ORC A! How are BoBs "false" promises looking now!??!?! Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Yodaron Ballsithor	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:29:00 - [490] Originally by: TRIGGER I will clarify for you . SA has allies inc huzzah , Smash . As allies we have common goals . As time progressed we saw other alliances come to querious to attack bob of which we engaged you in gangs together and that my friend is as far as it went . No allegance was formed , no coalition and certainly no longterm plans agreed to . As i said previously SA and our allies have never laid claim to querious (except for taking space from fix) nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold and if we were going to I myself would make a statement to that effect . What the general membership of SA post here should be taken with a pinch of salt exactly the same way other alliances work . Official posts regarding SA come from me and no one else . Over the few weeks that we played with other alliances for the first time I have made a few new friends and am glad of that . I will spend a moment also to give a little kudos to the corps in fix that remain , they stand up for what they believe in and credit is due for that . The war with Fix shall continue its course . I hope that clarifies things a little and if any more is needed im sure you know where the evemail button is. Having just returned to the game after a long hiatus, I still fondly remember my dealings with Trigger when Black Avatar, IT, etc. controlled Querious and before the QDF and FIX were entities in being. We had a good working relationship that allowed us to travel through any portion of Stain to get to CA space and beyond causing havoc with Huff Industries, etc. to the point that they refused to leave stations to engage a couple of inty's. Well, unfortunately, those days are long gone and dead. Trigger, my friend, do you honestly believe what you have written? Do you expect others to believe there was no temporary alliance or coalition formed to take on BoB? Do you expect us to believe that it was simply a case of BoB's enemies coming to Q to help you, out of the goodness of their own hearts, erradicate FIX? And honestly, do you really think that we accept the statement that "nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold"? I have been fortunate enough to be privy to read some of the conversations that have been recorded for posterity over the last month or so about SA's and HF's offer to FIX to join them in taking out BoB or be destroyed. Granted, these conversations were not with you, but they were with your diplomats and/or with HF representatives. The truth is in the simplicity, and can be summed up as follows: SA has a long standing beef with FIX. SA is mad that FIX was given Catch by SE. Another of the SA/FIX wars breaks out, but this time a new player comes to the table, Huzzah Federation. BoB steps in and FAT remains in FIX hands. SA attacks BoB and declares empire war against them. BoB destroyes all pos's, etc. in Stain space and SA hides in Agil. Another war breaks out against FIX (with the then neutral HF announcing hostilities within a couple of minutes before opening a cyno field for dreads to attack FIX). This time the SA/HF forces enlist additional help in Vox and Smash. It is at this juncture that the SA long term plan becomes clear. SA plan on installing friendly alliances in Q space and HF in Catch proper (i.e., FAT and below). This accomplishes 2 goals for SA: (1) The destruction of FIX and (2)The placement of meat shields in FIX space and Catch to buffer against BoB aggression towards SA. Given that these friendly alliances are beholden to SA for the conquerable stations they would then occupy, SA would be able to work from a position of relative strength (as opposed to their relative weakness) in dealing with BoB in the future. Plus, and here is the added benefit,it would open another back door to BoB space for future aggression against BoB. (cont)

Agedwine	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:42:00 - [491] It was not then hard for SA to cajole Imp, VC and FA into allying with them to finish FIX. Why? Because then they too would have the ability to attack BoB through the back door without having run back and forth great distances all the time. A logistics advantage that these alliances could not pass up. SA figured that because BoB gave the gift of "war" back to Eve, destroyed a FIX outpost egg, and engaged FIX in fleet combat that BoB would not see what was really happening. This miscalculation led to the present situation, i.e., the resounding defeat of the CODA forces in 9CG and the ongoing erradication of all CODA station and pos holdings in Q. Honestly, did you think BoB would sit there and let what you were planning come to fruition? If so, then you folks gravely underestimated BoB. BoB entered this fray, at least in my opinion, not so much to help FIX this time, but to secure their borders from hostiles. Their alliance with FIX makes sense. Besides, who would you rather have in Q, your enemies or those you trust and respect? Believe it or not. Flame me or not. Regardless, what I say, Trigger says, the fanbois say, etc., is not what is important here. The actions taken by SA and friends speak volumes, and the words of Trigger cannot drown those actions out. Again, good to be back. I left Eve due to the politics. I am back partly due to the politics. Ironic, is it not? Oh, and Trigger. There will come a day when you actually log into the game and play it for a bit. I hope I am where you are when this occurs. Your corpse would look great in my hanger bay. Yoda Out
Yodaron Ballsithor	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:43:00 - [492] Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 31/05/2006 18:43:07 Agedwine is my alt, sorry, I forgot to click the Character button. Dang alphabetical listings.
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:47:00 - [493] Good post does Yoda make, much wisdom there is. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
BOldMan	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:57:00 - [494] Originally by: FGxHalsey Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Originally by: FGxHalsey Originally by: Hast Originally by: FGxHalsey snip No offence but what you are saying is that instead of evolving or stepping up to us, you want us to step down to you? No, I said that I don't give a crap and fly what you like. I'm pointing out your inconsistancy. Don't complain about lack of fights when you bring a tech 2 ship into an area with 1 or 2 people in tech 1's. And don't be a hypocrite about flying tech 1 stuff either. so your either saying we completely outclass you with ships and skills or that we are playing unfair using the best items in game? Wrong. Again I say, I don't give a crap, fly what you like. I just think its funny how many of the BoB forum trolls would defend to death their use of T1 frigs and cruisers yet make fun of others for doing the same. I have use only T1 ship/module from start of 9cg game (a puny bb). And I am not dead and also I have replaced with T2 from enemies scorps lot. I am not ashame. The skill can make difference. But T2 ships are better and are a sign of healthy, you must agree. --------------------------------------------- [notify] You have scrambled capsule of [name] Best solution for get a kill here.
FGxHalsey	Posted - 2006.05.31 20:34:00 - [495] Edited by: FGxHalsey on 31/05/2006 20:36:34 Originally by: BOldMan I have use only T1 ship/module from start of 9cg game (a puny bb). And I am not dead and also I have replaced with T2 from enemies scorps lot. I am not ashame. The skill can make difference. But T2 ships are better and are a sign of healthy, you must agree. A rational post. Yes it can be a sign of health but it isn't the only sign of health and it shouldn't be taken to mean weakness. I love causing alot of damage to my enemies by taking down T2 ships with my T1 ships. I find that it makes people more bold and less cowardly in combat knowing that they'll only lose a small amount of money. If I kill 1 T2 ship and another kills me, I'm happy that I caused millions worth of damage while losing only 100k isk. I guess you could say that I don't have to use T1 ships but I want to. I love disposable attack fleets, they're fun and 1 rat kill can make up the money. I'm mostly an FPS player and have taken the same attitude here. Get a ship type that allows for constant battle. They're faster to make, cheaper to make, and the pilots who fly them fly differently. There's sort of a psychological aspect to knowing you aren't losing anything. I find my pilots generaly fly cheaper ships differently (better) than the expensive ones. This is why I tend to go with T1 stuff, not because I can't fly T2 stuff or afford them.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.31 20:42:00 - [496] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 31/05/2006 20:42:38 Originally by: FGxHalsey I find that it makes people more bold and less cowardly in combat knowing that they'll only lose a small amount of money. How can you be more bold by risking far less than your opponent? EDIT: sry i get what u meant now, my crappy english ^^ --------------------------------
Truth Serum	Posted - 2006.05.31 20:57:00 - [497] Originally by: FGxHalsey Edited by: FGxHalsey on 31/05/2006 17:16:58 Edited by: FGxHalsey on 31/05/2006 17:15:37 Originally by: StiZum Hilidii thats because you turn up with them. we use them as a last resort.a way to get home of to get back into the fight after just dying. we turn up in inters/interdics/bs/hacs/carriers our ships for the majority use tech 2 you dont. u dont. we take that as a sign or weakness because of either your inability to get these ships or your unwillingness to fly them against us Like I said: BoB flying T1 stuff = OK Anyone else = not OK/weak/pathetic On a side note, are you admitting that CODA forced you to your last resort of T1 frigates/cruisers? Your inability (while hardly shocking) the difference is why you live in low sec empire in the worst region in Eve.
Bacchuss	Posted - 2006.05.31 21:00:00 - [498] how did this tread changed to "what ship every1 fly"... ************************************ "What you gonna do, when I come for yoU?!" ************************************
Red Six	Posted - 2006.05.31 21:06:00 - [499] Originally by: FGxHalsey Edited by: FGxHalsey on 31/05/2006 20:36:34 Originally by: BOldMan I have use only T1 ship/module from start of 9cg game (a puny bb). And I am not dead and also I have replaced with T2 from enemies scorps lot. I am not ashame. The skill can make difference. But T2 ships are better and are a sign of healthy, you must agree. A rational post. Yes it can be a sign of health but it isn't the only sign of health and it shouldn't be taken to mean weakness. I love causing alot of damage to my enemies by taking down T2 ships with my T1 ships. I find that it makes people more bold and less cowardly in combat knowing that they'll only lose a small amount of money. If I kill 1 T2 ship and another kills me, I'm happy that I caused millions worth of damage while losing only 100k isk. I guess you could say that I don't have to use T1 ships but I want to. I love disposable attack fleets, they're fun and 1 rat kill can make up the money. I'm mostly an FPS player and have taken the same attitude here. Get a ship type that allows for constant battle. They're faster to make, cheaper to make, and the pilots who fly them fly differently. There's sort of a psychological aspect to knowing you aren't losing anything. I find my pilots generaly fly cheaper ships differently (better) than the expensive ones. This is why I tend to go with T1 stuff, not because I can't fly T2 stuff or afford them. That's the major difference between BoB and our opponents. The way you look at T-1 ships and gear is how we look at T2 ships and gear. No fear for the loss of said equipment. Hell, I've spent alot probably close 120 million on just T2 1400's, Sensor Boosters, Tracking Computers and Gyros in the last week alone. That doesn't even cover replacement ship and insurance costs. Do I fly T-1, yeah I fly a Thorax because I don't have Gallente skills high enough for a Deimos and I fly a Caracal and because I lack Caldari Cruiser 5. That being said I put as much T2 gear on them as I can use because I don't think twice about it. It's just how we fly.
Johann Swiftblade	Posted - 2006.05.31 21:24:00 - [500] Originally by: FGxHalsey A rational post. Yes it can be a sign of health but it isn't the only sign of health and it shouldn't be taken to mean weakness. I love causing alot of damage to my enemies by taking down T2 ships with my T1 ships. I find that it makes people more bold and less cowardly in combat knowing that they'll only lose a small amount of money. If I kill 1 T2 ship and another kills me, I'm happy that I caused millions worth of damage while losing only 100k isk. I guess you could say that I don't have to use T1 ships but I want to. I love disposable attack fleets, they're fun and 1 rat kill can make up the money. I'm mostly an FPS player and have taken the same attitude here. Get a ship type that allows for constant battle. They're faster to make, cheaper to make, and the pilots who fly them fly differently. There's sort of a psychological aspect to knowing you aren't losing anything. I find my pilots generaly fly cheaper ships differently (better) than the expensive ones. This is why I tend to go with T1 stuff, not because I can't fly T2 stuff or afford them. Over the past year I think i have lost about 5 t1 ships compared to all the 30 or so t2 ships, the difference with BoB and you guys is we don't care if we lose t2 ships, we just do complex's or mine to buy more! We are in it for the fight, not the economics! That's why we win.... and you lose!

Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.05.31 21:35:00 - [501] Remember that BoB gets 50% of N.A.G.A. when buying tech 2 stuff, so thats why the high tech 2 usage.. 13 -_-
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.05.31 21:47:00 - [502] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Remember that BoB gets 50% of N.A.G.A. when buying tech 2 stuff, so thats why the high tech 2 usage.. roflmao. ofc we do. /me looks at the 125m RKK would get charged for a jaguar. -1000% as we have negative standings to them. Try again. So why have you not taken the N.A.G.A. Outpost then? It is as big threat as the TRUST Outpost was, no? 13 -_-
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.31 22:03:00 - [503] I think your onto something..... NAGA = BOB ALTS! Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.31 22:20:00 - [504] Originally by: Darko1107 I think your onto something..... NAGA = BOB ALTS! ZOMG WE MUST BLOB BWF WITH 800 PPL AND BRING IN OUR LEET CAPITAL FLEET! Hiding in plain sight its over nowzOr!1!1111oneoneone!1!! --------------------------------
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2006.05.31 22:40:00 - [505] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Darko1107 I think your onto something..... NAGA = BOB ALTS! ZOMG WE MUST BLOB BWF WITH 800 PPL AND BRING IN OUR LEET CAPITAL FLEET! Hiding in plain sight its over nowzOr!1!1111oneoneone!1!! Oh i think Killer 8 SUmmed that one up better than anyone, although it would be a sight to see! Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
KSUDruid	Posted - 2006.05.31 22:49:00 - [506] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock So why have you not taken the N.A.G.A. Outpost then? It is as big threat as the TRUST Outpost was, no? Hmmmm... Where'd I put my pen and paper at... god moving dreads to geminate will be a major pain in the ass... -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL10) Katana
Agent Kenshin	Posted - 2006.05.31 22:59:00 - [507] Originally by: Rift Scorn Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Darko1107 I think your onto something..... NAGA = BOB ALTS! ZOMG WE MUST BLOB BWF WITH 800 PPL AND BRING IN OUR LEET CAPITAL FLEET! Hiding in plain sight its over nowzOr!1!1111oneoneone!1!! Oh i think Killer 8 SUmmed that one up better than anyone, although it would be a sight to see! Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers' ehehehh....
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.05.31 23:21:00 - [508] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Darko1107 I think your onto something..... NAGA = BOB ALTS! ZOMG WE MUST BLOB BWF WITH 800 PPL AND BRING IN OUR LEET CAPITAL FLEET! Hiding in plain sight its over nowzOr!1!1111oneoneone!1!! Bla... cant be ****** with that, cant we just go to the pub instead? Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.05.31 23:36:00 - [509] Originally by: Darko1107 I think your onto something..... NAGA = BOB ALTS! I thought I was supposed to put my alt in ISD. Now I've got to join naga. meh.
Morris Falter	Posted - 2006.05.31 23:44:00 - [510] Just to add to kai's post.. (my CEO!) - I learnt a mountain of stuff this weekend fighting bob, more than I did from a month of fighting fixies. Every ship I lost was worth it, in my personal opinion. I wonder what precisely bob are going to do with Querious? Move more carebears in to protect? Nice easy kills for us living not so far away from there.. and with a bazillion BM's of the systems.. If I were an empire miner looking for a nice place to make a few isk, Querious would be right at the bottom of the list...

pershphanie	Posted - 2006.06.01 00:16:00 - [511] Originally by: Morris Falter Just to add to kai's post.. (my CEO!) - I learnt a mountain of stuff this weekend fighting bob, more than I did from a month of fighting fixies. Every ship I lost was worth it, in my personal opinion. great post. The people chose to have this attitude instead of whining and making excuses are the ones that have a bright future in this game.
TRIGGER	Posted - 2006.06.01 00:35:00 - [512] yoda , in responce to your well written views on matters I deem it worthy of a reply . I see why you would draw certain conclusions . However all i can say if you were a little more in the know (and i dont mean this in a derrogatory way ) you would see a totally different side I assure you . q: "Do you expect others to believe there was no temporary alliance or coalition formed to take on BoB? Do you expect us to believe that it was simply a case of BoB's enemies coming to Q to help you, out of the goodness of their own hearts" a: believe what u wish , thats what the forums are for .All i can tell you is the truth according to myself . SA etc were approached by other alliances and asked if they may join the affray in querious at the time and the answer was yes . Nothing more (ie plans or me speaking to their leaders etc) as i said earlier . q:"do you really think that we accept the statement that "nor have we said that we will fight bob at this time for any claim to any space they hold"? a: show me anywhere i have made a statement to that effect or find me anyone i have said this to either ingame or out . What i have said on numerous occasions in answer to similar questions is that if I was to attack bob or any other entity for that matter is it would most certainly not be in a system that has 0 loss value to it and so many other factors involved that i will not divulge here . In your views regarding my beef with fix - yes I have one .The reasons again stem not from the membership but from past diplomats making the wrong decisions (in my view) for your alliance . The lack of fix wishing to speak to myself personally has not and does not help matters . The only way forward in the end was to make the harsh choice to end fix once and for all no matter of the timescale involved .It would all have ended so swiftly if all you did was to hand fat-6p over to us and that was denied all along by your side . SA's longterm plans for querious actually involved fix corps believe it or not . I have never and will never have interest in querious . Two allies were put in place there simply to hold the space while we contiuned the fight . I need not say more regarding bob as both the ppl in bob and sa know my feelings . It isnt a secret either that MASS itself has the utmost respect for Evolution and i am sure it goes both ways whether we are kos to each other (as we have been a few times in the past) or not .That itself should tell you a great deal about your ideas regarding SA and bob matters . I hope that answers a few of your questions .
psylenz	Posted - 2006.06.01 01:11:00 - [513] That being not the first but one of my first large fleet battles, I did not find the lag as bad as I had in the past. It might have something to do with some of the downgrading I did to video/sound settings before entering what I would have thought would have been lagfests. It was exciting for the minute or so that I was able to fight and I was glad to be a part of it. I got a few shots off until being called primary then got bbqd. Insurance was running out on the ship anyway. I didn't say it at the time because I was trying to get my pod out but GF. I'm sure I'll see you guys again.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.06.01 01:14:00 - [514] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Morris Falter Just to add to kai's post.. (my CEO!) - I learnt a mountain of stuff this weekend fighting bob, more than I did from a month of fighting fixies. Every ship I lost was worth it, in my personal opinion. great post. The people chose to have this attitude instead of whining and making excuses are the ones that have a bright future in this game. Oh yeah all the Huzzah guys had notebooks in their pods I can tell you. President Huzzah Federation Play EVE on the hard setting, join us.
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2006.06.01 01:55:00 - [515] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Morris Falter Just to add to kai's post.. (my CEO!) - I learnt a mountain of stuff this weekend fighting bob, more than I did from a month of fighting fixies. Every ship I lost was worth it, in my personal opinion. great post. The people chose to have this attitude instead of whining and making excuses are the ones that have a bright future in this game. Oh yeah all the Huzzah guys had notebooks in their pods I can tell you. we left them in their pods? i guess some of our support were having a bad day. /me starts scribbling notes of his own Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.01 02:04:00 - [516] Quote: The lack of fix wishing to speak to myself personally has not and does not help matters Trigger, I won't bother you with petty questions, but I do have one personal question due to my position as the diplomat for FIX; which diplomat in the past has avoided communication with you? There is no need to post it here, but if you could mail me, I would be rather interested in this. Regards, Av. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Randay	Posted - 2006.06.01 02:18:00 - [517] Originally by: TRIGGER blahblahblah so wait? are you running stain now? because last i remember orca was head cheese and callin you a nobody. the problem here is that the passenger still thinks he owns the car(because he built it), while in fact someone else is driving. where i come from, people like that are called backseat drivers. you cant expect the cop to ask you for your drivers license and registration, if you arent behind the wheel. ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.
S3VYN	Posted - 2006.06.01 02:19:00 - [518] Originally by: Avernus Quote: The lack of fix wishing to speak to myself personally has not and does not help matters Trigger, I won't bother you with petty questions, but I do have one personal question due to my position as the diplomat for FIX; which diplomat in the past has avoided communication with you? There is no need to post it here, but if you could mail me, I would be rather interested in this. Regards, Av. In my time I spoke to him on TeamSpeak, so it wasn't during my time. Must have been after me... ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Kai Jyokoroi	Posted - 2006.06.01 04:09:00 - [519] Edited by: Kai Jyokoroi on 01/06/2006 04:12:00 Originally by: Randay Originally by: TRIGGER blahblahblah so wait? are you running stain now? because last i remember orca was head cheese and callin you a nobody. the problem here is that the passenger still thinks he owns the car(because he built it), while in fact someone else is driving. where i come from, people like that are called backseat drivers. you cant expect the cop to ask you for your drivers license and registration, if you arent behind the wheel. Seriously mate, get a clue. You have no idea what happens inside SA. Trig went on a short leave of absence AGES ago and is now back. The situation you refer to happened last January, as I recall, so you have a pretty bad attention span if that's the case. You can disrespect me and the other SA guys all you want - that's fair enough, given your situation - but you diss our boss and you'll be primary for us forever. edit - spelling _____________ The day I receive my first moderator forum-sig hijack is the day I realise I have won Eve.
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.06.01 04:12:00 - [520] Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi Seriously mate, get a clue. You have no idea what happens inside SA. Trig went on a short leave of absence and is now back. You can disrespect me and the other SA guys all you want - that's fair enough, given your situation - but you diss our boss and you'll be primary for us forever. Thats a pretty scary threat, didn't you try that with BoB and end up hiding in empire?

Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.06.01 04:19:00 - [521] Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi Seriously mate, get a clue. You have no idea what happens inside SA. Trig went on a short leave of absence AGES ago and is now back. The situation you refer to happened last January, as I recall, so you have a pretty bad attention span if that's the case. You can disrespect me and the other SA guys all you want - that's fair enough, given your situation - but you diss our boss and you'll be primary for us forever. edit - spelling Even if the original reply was less than diplomatic in asking the question, it is a topic that there is alot of confusion over. Is Trigger back in charge now for good (most people I imagine hope that he is), or is Orc A going to turn around again and show the disgusting behaviour he has towards Trigger previously on these forums?
Kai Jyokoroi	Posted - 2006.06.01 04:27:00 - [522] Originally by: Ab Initio Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi Seriously mate, get a clue. You have no idea what happens inside SA. Trig went on a short leave of absence AGES ago and is now back. The situation you refer to happened last January, as I recall, so you have a pretty bad attention span if that's the case. You can disrespect me and the other SA guys all you want - that's fair enough, given your situation - but you diss our boss and you'll be primary for us forever. edit - spelling Even if the original reply was less than diplomatic in asking the question, it is a topic that there is alot of confusion over. Is Trigger back in charge now for good (most people I imagine hope that he is), or is Orc A going to turn around again and show the disgusting behaviour he has towards Trigger previously on these forums? I will confirm for you that Trigger is absolutely back in charge. _____________ The day I receive my first moderator forum-sig hijack is the day I realise I have won Eve. Stain Alliance diplomat
Rael Anshak	Posted - 2006.06.01 04:50:00 - [523] Originally by: TRIGGER stuff I think i can safetly speak for the entire eve community when i say i'm glad trigger is back and in charge. Part of the problem why SA has mucked up their public reputation is because of the lack of defined leadership. A while ago ORC A completly screwed SA's reputation and since then the SA corp directors have been trolling the forums with their own points of view as if tehy ran the alliance which you've made clear they dont. Congrats on the return to game and hopefully we'll see eachother in combat soon enuf :). Much respect m8.
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 05:22:00 - [524] Edited by: Mochalatte on 01/06/2006 05:22:27 omg another classic example of bob just spamming the forums with drivel. trying to drown out your enemys words with yust sheer spam and smack talk.one or two good bob posts but that is IT. now now fix dont get such a big head so soon. you just got slapped around like a little gurl and kicked out of your home. i was not on sa side and could be said i was agaisnt it when this all started. needing 4-6 alliances to kill fix. how sad. but dont start your smack talk now fix. that makes you look very silly as your ARE bobs meat shield and slaves now. you used to hold your head high saying we are not fa meat sheilds. you are now. to the people that called you the fa meat sheild. bob. so be humble for gosh sakes. acting like a bunch of kids hiding behind your big brother throwing insults. Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 05:43:00 - [525] im sorry. i hate to don my tin foil hat. how is it bob threads are the only one that have flames back n forth for 18+ pages yet the mods wont lock them? i dont think people need to wonder why. its pretty clear. anything other thread like this would of been locked along time ago. or how about i start mailing the mods all the flaming bob here so they can get a warning. just like bob does to everyone else? Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.06.01 05:51:00 - [526] Originally by: Mochalatte im sorry. i hate to don my tin foil hat. how is it bob threads are the only one that have flames back n forth for 18+ pages yet the mods wont lock them? Cos BoB are mods and devs, duh.
Bacchuss	Posted - 2006.06.01 05:52:00 - [527] Originally by: Mochalatte im sorry. i hate to don my tin foil hat. how is it bob threads are the only one that have flames back n forth for 18+ pages yet the mods wont lock them? i dont think people need to wonder why. its pretty clear. anything other thread like this would of been locked along time ago. or how about i start mailing the mods all the flaming bob here so they can get a warning. just like bob does to everyone else? trust me, it wont work, you'll just get a warning instead... ************************************ "What you gonna do, when I come for yoU?!" ************************************
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 05:55:00 - [528] Originally by: Luc Boye Originally by: Mochalatte im sorry. i hate to don my tin foil hat. how is it bob threads are the only one that have flames back n forth for 18+ pages yet the mods wont lock them? Cos BoB are mods and devs, duh. no. your one of the worst flamers and trolls btw luc. doing a search on your posts is sad. i was serious though after pulling up old sir molle posts and such. i just really dont get why they are allowed to thrive for so long. hard to conclude anything else than some favouritism. or explain better please . Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 06:24:00 - [529] Originally by: Randay maybe you guys want to move past it, i can understand why... just nullifies anything else you just said in that post. twd take example. great post then right at the end he yust had to... Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 06:28:00 - [530] Originally by: Luc Boye Originally by: Mochalatte no. your one of the worst flamers and trolls btw luc. yadda yadda Hey, pot-kettle-black. At least I post with my main, and in ships forum as well. Your post history only shows various anti-bob flaming, so like... back at you, slick. no. see i post in 4-5 different forums. i also talk about what the op talks about. i only go off topic when im personaly attacked. alt? why dont you look for different excuse. all your post are contradicting someone or trying to prove them wrong it a snoty way. i post very constructive stuff at times. you just post to get under peoples skin if your last 15 posts says anything about your forum behaviour. im now done in this thread said what i needed about the op and not going to smack with a bob smack talker with lvl 6. i will not post unless on topic. Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.

Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.06.01 06:57:00 - [531] Originally by: Mochalatte no. see i post in 4-5 different forums. i also talk about what the op talks about. i only go off topic when im personaly attacked. alt? why dont you look for different excuse. all your post are contradicting someone or trying to prove them wrong it a snoty way. i post very constructive stuff at times. you just post to get under peoples skin if your last 15 posts says anything about your forum behaviour. im now done in this thread said what i needed about the op and not going to smack with a bob smack talker with lvl 6. i will not post unless on topic. I resent your remark, that is personal insult, which is clearly against the forum rules, and not constructive at all.
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 07:43:00 - [532] someone needs a hug Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
dimensionZ	Posted - 2006.06.01 08:39:00 - [533] Originally by: Bacchuss Originally by: Mochalatte im sorry. i hate to don my tin foil hat. how is it bob threads are the only one that have flames back n forth for 18+ pages yet the mods wont lock them? i dont think people need to wonder why. its pretty clear. anything other thread like this would of been locked along time ago. or how about i start mailing the mods all the flaming bob here so they can get a warning. just like bob does to everyone else? trust me, it wont work, you'll just get a warning instead... Beleive you had a warning for posting and posting AND POSTING again about how bob are devs and only win battles by cheating. I beleive you deserved it too. ----------------------------------------
fire 59	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:17:00 - [534] Mochalatte, here you are again, contradicting yourself yet tarring all of bob as liars. Seriously, you appear on a bob thread and talk about something you know little about while accusing people you don't know of things you don't understand. Give it a rest, o and if i remember you mucked up awhile back and your main was discovered, dj something if i recall, cant be assed to search all your flames and trolls to find it though. You'll know doubt reply and brand me a liar, flamer troll or whatever, but i put to you sir, that you are all of the above, gd day Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:37:00 - [535] Originally by: fire 59 Mochalatte, here you are again, contradicting yourself yet tarring all of bob as liars. Seriously, you appear on a bob thread and talk about something you know little about while accusing people you don't know of things you don't understand. Give it a rest, o and if i remember you mucked up awhile back and your main was discovered, dj something if i recall, cant be assed to search all your flames and trolls to find it though. You'll know doubt reply and brand me a liar, flamer troll or whatever, but i put to you sir, that you are all of the above, gd day so i wonder when fix will get their reigon back for good and if bob will be properous in defending fix until its back on its feet. should be an intresting time unless coda is done all together with the fix assult. i say keep at it. force bob to defend and soon enough another super power will come in and clean up. to fire 59 my bob fan boi. you say i have different main? sorry to dissapoint. your just that bloody transparent as a alliance. i dont need someone with special info on you. so when you talk about me talking about things i dont know and your calling someone my main.other than myself. hehe nice assumption hypocrite. anything else? Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:39:00 - [536] Nineteen pages and no lock yet? Either the moderators or sleeping, or they're watching this with glee while giggling incessently
IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:47:00 - [537] oh make no mistake, my opinion of orc a is probably widely known, and is in line with the general public opinion of him. trigger is a much better leader then orc a. Just to end this sillyness once and for all, OrcA was never a leader in SA, he was the head diplomat who got caught up in a nasty situation, its like saying Dbpreacher was leading alliance because he leads the forum spamming. Yes there were some leadership probs for awhile, we felt it, some of EVE felt it, but now its more or less settled and at least SA is going in the same direction with a good guy on top. Fixies should really stop acting big cause three times now BOB has saved you, three times, must be a record. For the record, ppl saying BOB kicked our butts with exploits are just silly, they used better tactics, organizing and of course they have all the t2 stuff they want. They are the best you can fight in EVE atm, although not the most fun due to their constant disrespect of their opponent. And btw, 5 alliances working togeather is not always better that 1 cause it ruins tactics, discipline and many unwanted things pop up. Praeludium to success
Nifel	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:50:00 - [538] Originally by: IcedBach Jr Quote: oh make no mistake, my opinion of orc a is probably widely known, and is in line with the general public opinion of him. trigger is a much better leader then orc a. Just to end this sillyness once and for all, OrcA was never a leader in SA, he was the head diplomat who got caught up in a nasty situation, its like saying Dbpreacher was leading alliance because he leads the forum spamming. And yet he said TRIGGER had stepped out of line, that he wasn't running SA anymore etc. He had the backing of numerous posters including MASS posters. So what did actually happen? I'm still confused over what actually did happen inside of SA during that time. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:51:00 - [539] Meh. Click Above
Hast	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:59:00 - [540] abdalion abdalion where art thou? works every time. /rubs the magic moderator lamp Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS

Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.01 10:02:00 - [541] Originally by: Hast abdalion abdalion where art thou? works every time. /rubs the magic moderator lamp when a warning needs to go out bob dont fail with e-mail. so cant you just mail to get your own thread locked? Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Hast	Posted - 2006.06.01 10:35:00 - [542] Originally by: Mochalatte Originally by: Hast abdalion abdalion where art thou? works every time. /rubs the magic moderator lamp when a warning needs to go out bob dont fail with e-mail. so cant you just mail to get your own thread locked? well, I could email, but its not my thread Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
Helmut 314	Posted - 2006.06.01 10:46:00 - [543] Edited by: Helmut 314 on 01/06/2006 10:46:20 Originally by: IcedBach Jr Yes there were some leadership probs for awhile, we felt it, some of EVE felt it, but now its more or less settled and at least SA is going in the same direction with a good guy on top. Who IS the leader of SA ? TRIGGER again or someone else ? JHENR is recruiting. __________________________________ Trying is the first step of failure - Homer J Simpson
Torshin	Posted - 2006.06.01 10:59:00 - [544] Edited by: Torshin on 01/06/2006 10:59:22 mocha what ever you name is i seem to recall that 3 or 4 posts ago you said you were done posting in this thread. you are prolly the most annoying flamer and i get a chill down my spine every time i see your protrait cause i know there is crap that i don't want to read coming. Stop flaming bob and put ur tin foil hat back on
Kazim	Posted - 2006.06.01 11:06:00 - [545] Originally by: Helmut 314 Edited by: Helmut 314 on 01/06/2006 10:46:20 Originally by: IcedBach Jr Yes there were some leadership probs for awhile, we felt it, some of EVE felt it, but now its more or less settled and at least SA is going in the same direction with a good guy on top. Who IS the leader of SA ? TRIGGER again or someone else ? That was answered a coupla posts up.. read before trolling.
Helmut 314	Posted - 2006.06.01 11:25:00 - [546] Originally by: Kazim Originally by: Helmut 314 Edited by: Helmut 314 on 01/06/2006 10:46:20 Originally by: IcedBach Jr Yes there were some leadership probs for awhile, we felt it, some of EVE felt it, but now its more or less settled and at least SA is going in the same direction with a good guy on top. Who IS the leader of SA ? TRIGGER again or someone else ? That was answered a coupla posts up.. read before trolling. TRIGGER has been said to be in charge before by MASS and then it was a "secret fleet commander", then Orc A, then the CEO:s of SA and so on. Its hardly trolling to ask politely who SA has in their top spot. I havent seen any official posts anywhere saying TRIGGER is in charge. Especially when you look at the quote where it says your leadership problems are "more or less settled"... JHENR is recruiting. __________________________________ Trying is the first step of failure - Homer J Simpson
fire 59	Posted - 2006.06.01 11:45:00 - [547] <3 Mochy . I thought it was you who was busted, dj lightning or something, i could be mistaken, as i said, it was awhile ago but im sure it was you. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:11:00 - [548] Originally by: fire 59 <3 Mochy . I thought it was you who was busted, dj lightning or something, i could be mistaken, as i said, it was awhile ago but im sure it was you. That would be very interesting if MochaLatte is actually dj lightning, CEO of Black Lance and one of the D2 leadership. It would definitely change my opinion of the D2, as they do try to portray a whiter than white, no smack and forum trash policy. Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
General Hansen	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:21:00 - [549] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: fire 59 <3 Mochy . I thought it was you who was busted, dj lightning or something, i could be mistaken, as i said, it was awhile ago but im sure it was you. That would be very interesting if MochaLatte is actually dj lightning, CEO of Black Lance and one of the D2 leadership. It would definitely change my opinion of the D2, as they do try to portray a whiter than white, no smack and forum trash policy. Pretty sure Fire aka forum *** was talking about the Djnme incident with hes alt Well Wicked. HIHI**
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:28:00 - [550] Mochalatte = Minmatar Vengeance....at least anoying as he was/is DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??

DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:32:00 - [551] Originally by: General Hansen Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: fire 59 <3 Mochy . I thought it was you who was busted, dj lightning or something, i could be mistaken, as i said, it was awhile ago but im sure it was you. That would be very interesting if MochaLatte is actually dj lightning, CEO of Black Lance and one of the D2 leadership. It would definitely change my opinion of the D2, as they do try to portray a whiter than white, no smack and forum trash policy. Pretty sure Fire aka forum ***** was talking about the Djnme incident with hes alt Well Wicked. Ahh, cool, I take back my D2 slander Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
SirMolle	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:42:00 - [552] Thread overdue best before date. Moderators, kindly lock this flamefest.
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:47:00 - [553] Hi mom I'm in a bob thread "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:52:00 - [554] Originally by: Randay Originally by: TRIGGER blahblahblah so wait? are you running stain now? because last i remember orca was head cheese and callin you a nobody. the problem here is that the passenger still thinks he owns the car(because he built it), while in fact someone else is driving. where i come from, people like that are called backseat drivers. you cant expect the cop to ask you for your drivers license and registration, if you arent behind the wheel. If u took time out from being a smart ass i think u'll find that Q has already been answered.
Capsicum	Posted - 2006.06.01 13:19:00 - [555] Locked at the ops request. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our new Website!
Orc A	Posted - 2006.06.01 13:29:00 - [556] I've been avoiding to psot on the subject but i feel the need to refresh some people's Memory. Once upon a time, MASS was executor corp of SA. Then, for a while it was IEEX. When it was IEEX, SA needed a director from IEEX to be the diplomat, in order to adjust standings on a mometary basis if need be. It was me. the directo "Control" over the alliance was in the hands of the CEOs. I was accepting orders from thema nd from my own CEO. When bob tried to muscle SA into this whole napping fix thing, I was semi-afk from EvE while moving to my new appartment. The time i did have on, i spent in convos and mails and doing things that Diplomats do. When I talked to BoB on TS, in addition to a disgusting attitude and poor social skills, in a cunning display of lyrical acrobacy, they have somehow from that conversation (which was a very brief one as well) they have drawn the conclusion I was the Leader of SA (When i answered the Question "Can you speak on behalf of SA?" with a "Yes"). Anyways, I went afk for a day, doing stuff that you do when you move to a new appartment and was only present on SA forums. At my absence, the matter was discussed with Trigger (which is at that time was "The spiritual Leader" if you want to call it that). However, while i was not present, Trigger entered talks with BoB and made a deal. When i got back and saw the deal, i braught to Trigger's Eyes a few details and a few facts he was not aware of, and with his backing, i have approched FiX with newlly modefied Surrender terms, reviewed by the CEOS and agreed upon, by Trigger also. FiX refused. They never even fullfilled the agreemnt Trigger made with them either, on their side. After that Convo witht he fix diplo's i went away from game for another couple of days. I was not the one to push the wardec button vs BoB, and i was not the one who chose to go to war with bob. Those, were our members, refusing to be BoB's lapdogs and craving to finish what we have started - The complete termiantion of Fix. Time passed and IEEX got very tired with being Exec and requested MASS takes it back. MASS took it and as of then (alreadya bout 3 month ago i belive) Trigger has been at full Power. My time as a diplomat was always planned to be temporary, as i knew IEEX wont hold exec for long. I only took the job because i was back then, the director with most free time and most patience for Convos... Oh, and my undying passion for Conspiracies ofcourse. Nowdays, Im just a drunt and sit back and laugh when i see mighty alliance forum warrios trying to stain my name on a board i hardlly even read anymore... I hope this makes things clearer for the confused. Incase you did not understand: There is no conflict between me and Trigger and never was. There was a misscommunication caused by RL issues which was resolved as soon as comms were established. Yours, Orc A. Diplo-Grunt. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!


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