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Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
74
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:47:00 -
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Guys, I've just noticed a name (not giving out here) has an insult in its wording (%80 percent sure), which is my native-language's exploitation. Naturally, CCP might NOT be noticing it. Who should I report that person to? |

Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
393
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:50:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:Guys, I've just noticed a name (not giving out here) has an insult in its wording (%80 percent sure), which is my native-language's exploitation. Naturally, CCP might NOT be noticing it. Who should I report that person to?
Your native language and any of its odd permutations, have no grounds for punishment in space. Go back to WoW if you want customer service that cares.
http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/ |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
673
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:50:00 -
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You should get on with you life, realize that not everyone cares, and not report it to anyone. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |

Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
227
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:52:00 -
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Ripard Teg
Space detective and thought police captain. |

Cypher Reese
HelSinG Inc.
3
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:58:00 -
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OP is in a corporation that refers to boobs in its name and an alliance name I can only assume refers to autism... 7/10 |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
74
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:01:00 -
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I am sorry to share that I really hate some of people like you, despite we have to share the same world. I'm pretty sure you have no interest when monument was attacked also.
Nevermind, I was asking for official help according to this:
My report will fall to this group: Policies - EVE Online Terms of Service 2- You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
74
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:07:00 -
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No more interaction is needed, I will issue a ticket from web. |

Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources
255
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:10:00 -
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oh, ****, not an insult!
My fragile sensibilities have been tarnished by an internet space game! What will I do if my kids look at the holo-screen and see this insult from another language and say "Mom, what's a *****?"
I mean, I could just tell them "I don't know, but don't say it at school." or I can go on tirade about how modern culture has no ethics and it wasn't like this back in my day!
It's all of our sworn duty to crush against peoples freedoms of speech and expression simply because it makes me feel a little uncomfortable!
Who's with me? GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3380
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:26:00 -
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Shivanthar Just so you know, the ticket should be filed under: Rules & Policies -> Character Names
Edit: oh and as for you other guys, it was a simple question, there was no need to go off on one at the guy. If he find it offensive, he has a right to report it, and CCP will decide whether or not to uphold the complaint. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:27:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Shivanthar Just so you know, the ticket should be filed under: Rules & Policies -> Character Names
Thank you, I've just found that out. |
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Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:35:00 -
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The Justice for Kristalll's sensibilities band wagon starts here. |

Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2014.05.14 13:44:00 -
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FFS Lucas, if you want to have sex with Shivanthar just ask him . |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
674
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Posted - 2014.05.14 14:00:00 -
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Christian Lionbate wrote:FFS Lucas, if you want to have sex with Shivanthar just ask him .
I spit my coffee on my ******* keyboard. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |

Maxmillian Rokatansky
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2014.05.14 15:20:00 -
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Hey OP just out of curiosity, what is your native language? |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 15:28:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:oh, ****, not an insult!
My fragile sensibilities have been tarnished by an internet space game! What will I do if my kids look at the holo-screen and see this insult from another language and say "Mom, what's a *****?"
I mean, I could just tell them "I don't know, but don't say it at school." or I can go on tirade about how modern culture has no ethics and it wasn't like this back in my day!
It's all of our sworn duty to crush against peoples freedoms of speech and expression simply because it makes me feel a little uncomfortable!
Who's with me?
What are you trying to tell? |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 15:39:00 -
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Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Guys, I've just noticed a name (not giving out here) has an insult in its wording (%80 percent sure), which is my native-language's exploitation. Naturally, CCP might NOT be noticing it. Who should I report that person to? Your native language and any of its odd permutations, have no grounds for punishment in space. Go back to WoW if you want customer service that cares.
All languages and any of their odd permutations, have very strict grounds for punishment in space. I am not going anywhere because customer service cares.
All your information is invalidated by CCP's naming policy.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
981
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Posted - 2014.05.14 15:46:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Ripard Teg
Space detective and thought police captain. Indeed. Also, the OP can increase his chances of getting a rush to the barricades from the collective pansies of EvE'dom by expressing to Ripard that he feels harassed and bullied by the oppressors use of language, tortured in fact. Further, he should express he is so traumatized by the verbage, that he is unable to close the other pilots Bio window and disengage, and is being held captive to viewing it... Some further might suggest completely losing his sh!t in the petition he files, indicating some form of mental break will further enhance his chances of a CCP response. Would you like to know more? |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 15:51:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:You should get on with you life, realize that not everyone cares, and not report it to anyone.
This is a common practice that a group of people, messing against other people, think that every bit of the system is already working like as it is, and everybody is behaving like them and nobody else cares.
This mate, is a very true and acknowledged psychology in a society. This point is valid until you find out that the driver who always passes at the red light is innocent unless he injures/kills somebody.
When that incident happens, driver is then made realize that there are laws, protecting the injured one. Those laws were invisible to both the driver and padestrian until an accident happens. When laws start to punish guilty, those who always think that they are free to pass at red light will then suddenly realize that their borders are limited to another person's. This is called justice.
I can fight for your freedom someday, (maybe I already did), but crossing borders defined by policies (not me) is a freeway that you might try on. Every action has its consequences. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3042

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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:00:00 -
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Removed an off topic post. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1352
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:00:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:You should get on with you life, realize that not everyone cares, and not report it to anyone. This is a common practice that a group of people, messing against other people, think that every bit of the system is already working like as it is, and everybody is behaving like them and nobody else cares. This mate, is a very true and acknowledged psychology in a society. This point is valid until you find out that the driver who always passes at the red light is innocent unless he injures/kills somebody. When that incident happens, driver is then made realize that there are laws, protecting the injured one. Those laws were invisible to both the driver and padestrian until an accident happens. When laws start to punish guilty, those who always think that they are free to pass at red light will then suddenly realize that their borders are limited to another person's. This is called justice. I can fight for your freedom someday, (maybe I already did), but crossing borders defined by policies (not me) is a freeway that you might try on. Every action has its consequences.
You know the name of your corp violates the same rules in MY language? "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
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Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:02:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:You should get on with you life, realize that not everyone cares, and not report it to anyone. This is a common practice that a group of people, messing against other people, think that every bit of the system is already working like as it is, and everybody is behaving like them and nobody else cares. This mate, is a very true and acknowledged psychology in a society. This point is valid until you find out that the driver who always passes at the red light is innocent unless he injures/kills somebody. When that incident happens, driver is then made realize that there are laws, protecting the injured one. Those laws were invisible to both the driver and padestrian until an accident happens. When laws start to punish guilty, those who always think that they are free to pass at red light will then suddenly realize that their borders are limited to another person's. This is called justice. I can fight for your freedom someday, (maybe I already did), but crossing borders defined by policies (not me) is a freeway that you might try on. Every action has its consequences. You know the name of your corp violates the same rules in MY language?
Does it attack you personally? |

Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
231
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:04:00 -
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Filed a report against Op's corp and alliance for violence against women and discrimination against the mentally handicapped.
You are welcome OP for our out reach to help clean up Eve culture in every language. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:07:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Filed a report against Op's corp and alliance for violence against women and discrimination against the mentally handicapped.
You are welcome OP for our out reach to help clean up Eve culture in every language.
It is your right to file a petition against it. I don't even know what it means. I didn't put it, I won't be the getting affected by it. |

Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
231
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:10:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:Froggy Storm wrote:Filed a report against Op's corp and alliance for violence against women and discrimination against the mentally handicapped.
You are welcome OP for our out reach to help clean up Eve culture in every language. It is your right to file a petition against it. I don't even know what it means. I didn't put it, I won't be the getting affected by it.
Ah the ole, "Didn't want that alliance anyway" line. Truly a classic. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:11:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Froggy Storm wrote:Filed a report against Op's corp and alliance for violence against women and discrimination against the mentally handicapped.
You are welcome OP for our out reach to help clean up Eve culture in every language. It is your right to file a petition against it. I don't even know what it means. I didn't put it, I won't be the getting affected by it. Ah the ole, "Didn't want that alliance anyway" line. Truly a classic.
No, it is what you think. What really it is that I didn't know what it means, I didn't put it and I won't be affected by it if it changes. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3382
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:18:00 -
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Froggy Storm wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Froggy Storm wrote:Filed a report against Op's corp and alliance for violence against women and discrimination against the mentally handicapped.
You are welcome OP for our out reach to help clean up Eve culture in every language. It is your right to file a petition against it. I don't even know what it means. I didn't put it, I won't be the getting affected by it. Ah the ole, "Didn't want that alliance anyway" line. Truly a classic. You're aware that it appears to be a corp he joined, right? Not his corp. It's very possible for him to actually not care about it. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Cole Terr
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:10:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:No more interaction is needed, I will issue a ticket from web.
Ahhh... C'mon.... More interaction may not be needed, but we sure do want more with you... (/sarcasm) |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:14:00 -
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Cole Terr wrote:Shivanthar wrote:No more interaction is needed, I will issue a ticket from web. Ahhh... C'mon.... More interaction may not be needed, but we sure do want more with you... (/sarcasm)
I already got my answer by at least two people that have common sense. Read one of my answers explaining crowd psychology and then you'll sure understand who "we" are.
May I learn who is "we" ? |

Cole Terr
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:24:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:Cole Terr wrote:Shivanthar wrote:No more interaction is needed, I will issue a ticket from web. Ahhh... C'mon.... More interaction may not be needed, but we sure do want more with you... (/sarcasm) I already got my answer by at least two people that have common sense. Read one of my answers explaining crowd psychology and then you'll sure understand who "we" are. May I learn who is "we" ?
First, I don't "need" to read any of your answers about crowd psychology.. Do not presume for one moment to act like you know who I am or what I need to understand.
Secondly, I don't really give a fat dogs fart about who "we" is. It is a damn shame that somebody's in game name hurt your delicate sensibilities in the internet outer space, but you need to thicken up your skin when you post on these boards, put on your big boy pants and play the game. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:32:00 -
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Cole Terr wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Cole Terr wrote:Shivanthar wrote:No more interaction is needed, I will issue a ticket from web. Ahhh... C'mon.... More interaction may not be needed, but we sure do want more with you... (/sarcasm) I already got my answer by at least two people that have common sense. Read one of my answers explaining crowd psychology and then you'll sure understand who "we" are. May I learn who is "we" ? First, I don't "need" to read any of your answers about crowd psychology.. Do not presume for one moment to act like you know who I am or what I need to understand. Secondly, I don't really give a fat dogs fart about who "we" is. It is a damn shame that somebody's in game name hurt your delicate sensibilities in the internet outer space, but you need to thicken up your skin when you post on these boards, put on your big boy pants and play the game.
Got your point. You have no point.
First, you definitely "need" to read my answer, because you were pressed "reply" button on this forum. If you are referring that you're replying without reading content, then so be it. You would simply have no point. This would only be a proof that you just came here to make fun of OP, in this case, me. Go on.
Next, You say you don't care about something you just said in your previous post. Ok. This one will suprise you the most: In nowhere I told I was a victim of an attack. My skin as hard as rock my friend, and you've just hit me on head. |
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
675
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:35:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote: I can fight for your freedom someday, (maybe I already did), but crossing borders defined by policies (not me) is a freeway that you might try on. Every action has its consequences.
What a joke. Your going to fight for MY freedom. I am ex-military, hauss. Dont talk to me about that.
Your point is moot. You do realize that freedom of speech protects the right of someone to make statements that you make be offended by, correct?
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:42:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Shivanthar wrote: I can fight for your freedom someday, (maybe I already did), but crossing borders defined by policies (not me) is a freeway that you might try on. Every action has its consequences.
What a joke. Your going to fight for MY freedom. I am ex-military, hauss. Dont talk to me about that. Your point is moot. You do realize that freedom of speech protects the right of someone to make statements that you make be offended by, correct?
Yes, that is correct. On couple of previous lines you quoted from, I explicitely stated this already. You're free to pass that red light. But if you hit padestrian in any way, you will find laws (policies) protecting the padestrian.
At the beginning, I said, I need to report someone and also posted the policy they violated. I had a question. And I got my answer. I'm sorry I didn't give the fun people were seeking for, but it was something serious. And I don't make fun of serious problems. Those who want to make fun of it, are free to do so, but I won't be doing it. |

Winchester Steele
1121
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:43:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:I am sorry to share that I really hate people like some of you, despite we have to share the same world. I'm pretty sure you have no interest when monument was attacked also.
Nevermind, I was asking for official help according to this:
My report will fall to this group: Policies - EVE Online Terms of Service 2- You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)
You HATE people over silly videogame ****? Pretty harsh and more than a little ironic in the context of your post.
... |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:48:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Shivanthar wrote:I am sorry to share that I really hate people like some of you, despite we have to share the same world. I'm pretty sure you have no interest when monument was attacked also.
Nevermind, I was asking for official help according to this:
My report will fall to this group: Policies - EVE Online Terms of Service 2- You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) You HATE people over silly videogame ****? Pretty harsh and more than a little ironic in the context of your post. Actually, if it is read carefully, those people picked me with actually no reason. They were here to make fun of me, resulting one of their being deleted. I asked a question. That was it. There were actually no need to start a bar fight. They came, they join, they argue. I just watch and reply.
What I'm trying to understand is, why are they defending a possible offender without ever thinking that there might be an actual offense... I didn't need judges, I just needed a person who will point where can I find a responsible official. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
675
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:58:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Shivanthar wrote: I can fight for your freedom someday, (maybe I already did), but crossing borders defined by policies (not me) is a freeway that you might try on. Every action has its consequences.
What a joke. Your going to fight for MY freedom. I am ex-military, hauss. Dont talk to me about that. Your point is moot. You do realize that freedom of speech protects the right of someone to make statements that you make be offended by, correct? Yes, that is correct. On couple of previous lines you quoted from, I explicitely stated this already. You're free to pass that red light. But if you hit padestrian in any way, you will find laws (policies) protecting the padestrian. At the beginning, I said, I need to report someone and also posted the policy they violated. I had a question. And I got my answer. I'm sorry I didn't give the fun people were seeking for, but it was something serious. And I don't make fun of serious problems. Those who want to make fun of it, are free to do so, but I won't be doing it.
Hitting someone with your car is in no way similar to making a toon with a semi-offensive name.
Sigh.
Im going to wardec your corp when I get home. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3384
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:59:00 -
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How is this conversations still going on? A guy had a legitimate question about where to post a support ticket over a matter he has every right to report. CCP will make a decision about whether or not they find it rule violating, and that will be that. You guys had no need to come in trolling and have no need to continue to do so now. I get it, you don't like people complaining and think that everyone should HTFU, regardless of what their issue is. That's just not the way it works. Move on and troll the next one. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
675
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:04:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:How is this conversations still going on? A guy had a legitimate question about where to post a support ticket over a matter he has every right to report. CCP will make a decision about whether or not they find it rule violating, and that will be that. You guys had no need to come in trolling and have no need to continue to do so now. I get it, you don't like people complaining and think that everyone should HTFU, regardless of what their issue is. That's just not the way it works. Move on and troll the next one.
Lucas, my issue is the "holier than thou" attitude. He got his answer, yet he persists. Even citing some randomness about hitting people with a car in comparison to a maybe-offensive name?
Eh. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:07:00 -
[38] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Shivanthar wrote:
Hitting someone with your car is in no way similar to making a toon with a semi-offensive name.
Sigh.
...
You misinterpreted my example. I tried to tell something else there. Let me quote myself:
Shivanthar wrote: What I'm trying to understand is, why are they defending a possible offender without ever thinking that there might be an actual offense...
See? You judged that the offender had semi-offensive name. With what information did you come to this conclusion, may I ask? Prejudice... I've not given any name anywhere. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
675
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:13:00 -
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Dude, im done. It wasnt a trolling attempt. I seriously think that people need to mind their own buisness about something that doesnt affect them. So what if someone has a bad word in their name. It literally has no bearing on how you play the game. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:14:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:How is this conversations still going on? A guy had a legitimate question about where to post a support ticket over a matter he has every right to report. CCP will make a decision about whether or not they find it rule violating, and that will be that. You guys had no need to come in trolling and have no need to continue to do so now. I get it, you don't like people complaining and think that everyone should HTFU, regardless of what their issue is. That's just not the way it works. Move on and troll the next one. Lucas, my issue is the "holier than thou" attitude. He got his answer, yet he persists. Even citing some randomness about hitting people with a car in comparison to a maybe-offensive name? Eh.
The only persisting issue here is that your prejudice is preventing your ability from noticing the logical problem. Your unstable judging is the only think persisting here. "semi-offensive", "maybe-offensive". With actually no information, you're defending the offender, coming up with rights to speech.
Joke... |
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Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:15:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Dude, im done. It wasnt a trolling attempt. I seriously think that people need to mind their own buisness about something that doesnt affect them. So what if someone has a bad word in their name. It literally has no bearing on how you play the game.
Thank you. |

Yim Sei
Watchers of Tartarus
153
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:48:00 -
[42] - Quote
Eve Online - the social petri dish you pay to be part of.  Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |

Cypher Reese
HelSinG Inc.
6
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:01:00 -
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The OP gets offended by a name in his native language which the majority of people won't get because its not in the language they speak. He insists that it should be reported and changed because it is offensive
He is informed that the name of his corp and alliance are offensive to a large number of people that speak English and his response is "I don't care because I don't understand the language enough to realize it's offensive".
Now he is insulting people because they don't think the offensive language they don't understand is important. Have I missed any of the hypocrisy here? |

BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
272
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:11:00 -
[44] - Quote
Froggy Storm wrote:Ripard Teg
Space detective and thought police captain. social justice white knight
He's more like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson rolled into one....Not a cop.
Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:18:00 -
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Cypher Reese wrote:The OP gets offended by a name in his native language which the majority of people won't get because its not in the language they speak. He insists that it should be reported and changed because it is offensive
He is informed that the name of his corp and alliance are offensive to a large number of people that speak English and his response is "I don't care because I don't understand the language enough to realize it's offensive".
Now he is insulting people because they don't think the offensive language they don't understand is important. Have I missed any of the hypocrisy here?
Yes, you're missing something. But that is not hypocrisy. It is the point. - I didn't state I get offended and I didn't "insists that it should be reported and changed because it is offensive". I just said I needed an official. An assist... - I didn't say I don't care about my corp name. I said I didn't know its meaning. I said any change about it won't affect me. And for your information, I liked their behavior. I would do (and did) the same. - Please cite my insulting. Then ask yourself. Is it an insult? Or is it something that person put thyself in? - I didn't need any confirmation or judging by any of the people that have spoken here and you.I asked question and I got answers. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3384
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:21:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:How is this conversations still going on? A guy had a legitimate question about where to post a support ticket over a matter he has every right to report. CCP will make a decision about whether or not they find it rule violating, and that will be that. You guys had no need to come in trolling and have no need to continue to do so now. I get it, you don't like people complaining and think that everyone should HTFU, regardless of what their issue is. That's just not the way it works. Move on and troll the next one. Lucas, my issue is the "holier than thou" attitude. He got his answer, yet he persists. Even citing some randomness about hitting people with a car in comparison to a maybe-offensive name? Eh. What holier than though attitude? You immediately leapt in giving him ****, and he responded. Sure there's some pretty dodgy analogies being thrown around as usual, but what do you expect? Perhaps if you don;t like people responding like that you should just not troll them in the first place.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3384
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:23:00 -
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Cypher Reese wrote:The OP gets offended by a name in his native language which the majority of people won't get because its not in the language they speak. He insists that it should be reported and changed because it is offensive
He is informed that the name of his corp and alliance are offensive to a large number of people that speak English and his response is "I don't care because I don't understand the language enough to realize it's offensive".
Now he is insulting people because they don't think the offensive language they don't understand is important. Have I missed any of the hypocrisy here? Firstly, regardless of language, if something offensive to someone they have the right to report it. Secondly, it's not his corp, or his alliance, and when he says he doesn't care, I'm pretty sure he means he doesn't care if you report it (which was clearly being done out of spite anyway), not that he doesn't care if it offends you. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
75
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:How is this conversations still going on? A guy had a legitimate question about where to post a support ticket over a matter he has every right to report. CCP will make a decision about whether or not they find it rule violating, and that will be that. You guys had no need to come in trolling and have no need to continue to do so now. I get it, you don't like people complaining and think that everyone should HTFU, regardless of what their issue is. That's just not the way it works. Move on and troll the next one. Lucas, my issue is the "holier than thou" attitude. He got his answer, yet he persists. Even citing some randomness about hitting people with a car in comparison to a maybe-offensive name? Eh. What holier than though attitude? You immediately leapt in giving him ****, and he responded. Sure there's some pretty dodgy analogies being thrown around as usual, but what do you expect? Perhaps if you don;t like people responding like that you should just not troll them in the first place.
He said "He got his answer, yet he persists." But look at when he made his first post. People are coming here to judge me while I'm actually looking for an official. Yes, I will persist unless they stop judging without actually knowing what was going on. |

Cyran Reinhard
hashtag WARDEC
6
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
Shivanthar wrote: What I'm trying to understand is, why are they defending a possible offender without ever thinking that there might be an actual offense... I didn't need judges, I just needed a person who will point where can I find a responsible official.
The same way people stand up for people whose freedom is being assaulted by laws.
If a rule is unjust, and it's broken, is the action unjust simply because it broke the rule that is recognized to be unjust? |

Cyran Reinhard
hashtag WARDEC
6
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
Shivanthar wrote:Yes, I will persist unless they stop judging without actually knowing what was going on.
Your OP was "I am offended, and the rules say I can complain about being offended, who do I complain to?"
You CHOSE not to present more information about the subject.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3384
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:50:00 -
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Cyran Reinhard wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Yes, I will persist unless they stop judging without actually knowing what was going on. Your OP was "I am offended, and the rules say I can complain about being offended, who do I complain to?" You CHOSE not to present more information about the subject. Uh, actually he stated it was a name that was offensive and asked where to report it. It was a simple questions with more than enough information for an answer. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
676
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Posted - 2014.05.14 20:06:00 -
[52] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Cypher Reese wrote:The OP gets offended by a name in his native language which the majority of people won't get because its not in the language they speak. He insists that it should be reported and changed because it is offensive
He is informed that the name of his corp and alliance are offensive to a large number of people that speak English and his response is "I don't care because I don't understand the language enough to realize it's offensive".
Now he is insulting people because they don't think the offensive language they don't understand is important. Have I missed any of the hypocrisy here? Firstly, regardless of language, if something offensive to someone they have the right to report it. Secondly, it's not his corp, or his alliance, and when he says he doesn't care, I'm pretty sure he means he doesn't care if you report it (which was clearly being done out of spite anyway), not that he doesn't care if it offends you.
Damn it man, are you really one of those guys? You know, the ones who think that they have some right not to be offended?
Let me let you guys in on why this pisses me off so much. We live in a pussified society where this seems to be the growing belief that anything that is even passively offensive to ANYONE must be illegal or abolished. I wasnt trolling in my first post. I play this game because it *used to be* a place where soft-feelings-hurt-easily-offended types were thrown out like so much of yesterdays trash. Now we are worried about hurting peoples feelings? Aww... did the player name offend you? Better report it. Is your other hobby reporting zoning code violations? Maybe ratting out that little girl's lemonade stand down the street to the IRS (or even better, the FDA!).
Seriously, why cant you just play the game? Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
76
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Posted - 2014.05.14 20:39:00 -
[53] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Cypher Reese wrote:The OP gets offended by a name in his native language which the majority of people won't get because its not in the language they speak. He insists that it should be reported and changed because it is offensive
He is informed that the name of his corp and alliance are offensive to a large number of people that speak English and his response is "I don't care because I don't understand the language enough to realize it's offensive".
Now he is insulting people because they don't think the offensive language they don't understand is important. Have I missed any of the hypocrisy here? Firstly, regardless of language, if something offensive to someone they have the right to report it. Secondly, it's not his corp, or his alliance, and when he says he doesn't care, I'm pretty sure he means he doesn't care if you report it (which was clearly being done out of spite anyway), not that he doesn't care if it offends you. Damn it man, are you really one of those guys? You know, the ones who think that they have some right not to be offended? Let me let you guys in on why this pisses me off so much. We live in a pussified society where this seems to be the growing belief that anything that is even passively offensive to ANYONE must be illegal or abolished. I wasnt trolling in my first post. I play this game because it *used to be* a place where soft-feelings-hurt-easily-offended types were thrown out like so much of yesterdays trash. Now we are worried about hurting peoples feelings? Aww... did the player name offend you? Better report it. Is your other hobby reporting zoning code violations? Maybe ratting out that little girl's lemonade stand down the street to the IRS (or even better, the FDA!). Seriously, why cant you just play the game?
Because, we are different. Everybody is different. We may disagree with each other. You got pissed of by me (I take it as a different kind of disagreement) I choose to report a bomb, who might blow someone up and decided to go to police to report it. That was about it. The title is "who to report". I don't have any other intentions. Just tried to learn who to report. Believe me, if I knew I would take this much heat, I simply would have tried harder. That was my mistake. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
76
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:03:00 -
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Cyran Reinhard wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Yes, I will persist unless they stop judging without actually knowing what was going on. Your OP was "I am offended, and the rules say I can complain about being offended, who do I complain to?" You CHOSE not to present more information about the subject.
Yes, the subject is not to discuss it. It is neither wise, nor a correct action to reveal somebody's name which is about to be reported. A soon-to-be-gm-talk is not a kind of discussion that could be revealed in the forums. |

Winchester Steele
1125
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:06:00 -
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Shivanthar wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Shivanthar wrote:I am sorry to share that I really hate people like some of you, despite we have to share the same world. I'm pretty sure you have no interest when monument was attacked also.
Nevermind, I was asking for official help according to this:
My report will fall to this group: Policies - EVE Online Terms of Service 2- You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) You HATE people over silly videogame ****? Pretty harsh and more than a little ironic in the context of your post. Actually, if it is read carefully, those people picked me with actually no reason. They were here to make fun of me, resulting one of their being deleted. I asked a question. That was it. There were actually no need to start a bar fight. They came, they join, they argue. I just watch and reply. What I'm trying to understand is, why are they defending a possible offender without ever thinking that there might be an actual offense... I didn't need judges, I just needed a person who will point where can I find a responsible official.
Regardless, espousing hatred of someone because they disagree with you or troll your bad posts is pretty extreme.
With your delicate sensibilities, you may want to consider the very real possibility that the internet is not for you. Maybe look into basket-weaving or water color paints... ... |

Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
48
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:17:00 -
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Is this guy asking to be bountied and watchlisted? I dunno what "report" means. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
76
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:25:00 -
[57] - Quote
Cyran Reinhard wrote:Shivanthar wrote: What I'm trying to understand is, why are they defending a possible offender without ever thinking that there might be an actual offense... I didn't need judges, I just needed a person who will point where can I find a responsible official.
The same way people stand up for people whose freedom is being assaulted by laws. If a rule is unjust, and it's broken, is the action unjust simply because it broke the rule that is recognized to be unjust?
If you call a law is unjust and broken, then your actions against it, will simply determine how hard the consequences you'll face. You've to play by the book. You can choose not to, then you'll face the consequences of system. If you want to change a rule, gather a very large supporter crowd, get elected, gather political force and change it. Trying to change it by other means will make you receive its consequences.
I'm not here to query a rule's justice. I was here to learn the referee, and I was shown.
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Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
76
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:29:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Shivanthar wrote:I am sorry to share that I really hate people like some of you, despite we have to share the same world. I'm pretty sure you have no interest when monument was attacked also.
Nevermind, I was asking for official help according to this:
My report will fall to this group: Policies - EVE Online Terms of Service 2- You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) You HATE people over silly videogame ****? Pretty harsh and more than a little ironic in the context of your post. Actually, if it is read carefully, those people picked me with actually no reason. They were here to make fun of me, resulting one of their being deleted. I asked a question. That was it. There were actually no need to start a bar fight. They came, they join, they argue. I just watch and reply. What I'm trying to understand is, why are they defending a possible offender without ever thinking that there might be an actual offense... I didn't need judges, I just needed a person who will point where can I find a responsible official. Regardless, espousing hatred of someone because they disagree with you or troll your bad posts is pretty extreme. With your delicate sensibilities, you may want to consider the very real possibility that the internet is not for you. Maybe look into basket-weaving or water color paints...
Why are you so interested in my hatred was not this thread's subject. Nor I'm interested in explaining it any further. Read the title, if you have any further know-how of how to improve already given answers, please respond. Otherwise, you're going out of subject towards my personal ideas. |

Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
689
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:32:00 -
[59] - Quote
Django Askulf wrote:Is this guy asking to be bountied and watchlisted? I dunno what "report" means.
More like permadecced.
*starts flipping coin*
Also, OP is either trolling at this point or is one of those 'special flowers'...that need to be stepped on.
 Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Winchester Steele
1127
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:41:00 -
[60] - Quote
Django Askulf wrote:Is this guy asking to be bountied and watchlisted? I dunno what "report" means.
Snitches get stitches.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3385
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:42:00 -
[61] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:Damn it man, are you really one of those guys? You know, the ones who think that they have some right not to be offended?
Let me let you guys in on why this pisses me off so much. We live in a pussified society where this seems to be the growing belief that anything that is even passively offensive to ANYONE must be illegal or abolished. I wasnt trolling in my first post. I play this game because it *used to be* a place where soft-feelings-hurt-easily-offended types were thrown out like so much of yesterdays trash. Now we are worried about hurting peoples feelings? Aww... did the player name offend you? Better report it. Is your other hobby reporting zoning code violations? Maybe ratting out that little girl's lemonade stand down the street to the IRS (or even better, the FDA!).
Seriously, why cant you just play the game? No, I'm not one of "those guys", but I do understand that the structure is in place for people to report such things and it's up to CCP to decide if it's relevant or not. The guy asked for a simple piece of information and you trolled him. You had absolutely no reason to do so. If you didn't want to answer properly, then don't answer. He asked a simple question with a simple answer and you felt the need to instead hand over your uninformed opinion. I don't really care whether or not you think people should be able to report things they find offensive, CCP have deemed that you can, and have always stated that if you are unsure you should file a ticket. Now his got his answer, he can go to CCP and they can make their decision. Move on. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Winchester Steele
1127
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:45:00 -
[62] - Quote
Shivanthar wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Shivanthar wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Shivanthar wrote:I am sorry to share that I really hate people like some of you, despite we have to share the same world. I'm pretty sure you have no interest when monument was attacked also.
Nevermind, I was asking for official help according to this:
My report will fall to this group: Policies - EVE Online Terms of Service 2- You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) You HATE people over silly videogame ****? Pretty harsh and more than a little ironic in the context of your post. Actually, if it is read carefully, those people picked me with actually no reason. They were here to make fun of me, resulting one of their being deleted. I asked a question. That was it. There were actually no need to start a bar fight. They came, they join, they argue. I just watch and reply. What I'm trying to understand is, why are they defending a possible offender without ever thinking that there might be an actual offense... I didn't need judges, I just needed a person who will point where can I find a responsible official. Regardless, espousing hatred of someone because they disagree with you or troll your bad posts is pretty extreme. With your delicate sensibilities, you may want to consider the very real possibility that the internet is not for you. Maybe look into basket-weaving or water color paints... Why are you so interested in my hatred was not this thread's subject. Nor I'm interested in explaining it any further. Read the title, if you have any further know-how of how to improve already given answers, please respond. Otherwise, you're going out of subject towards my personal ideas.
Hey fella. You made the thread and the statement on a public forum, not me. Once you hit that post button, you open yourself up to any and all criticism, doubly so when you make noxious statements. Also, I'm just a little surprised and curious that people can muster feelings as extreme as hatred over silly internet drama. ... |

TheyCallMe Ching Chong
Corp4pilotswhocantreadgoodanwanalearnotherstuff2
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:52:00 -
[63] - Quote
Shivanthar wrote:Blah Blah Blah.
You're playing the wrong game mate. My Little Pony action adventure is that way. ----> |

Winchester Steele
1128
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:55:00 -
[64] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:No, I'm not one of "those guys", but I do understand that the structure is in place for people to report such things and it's up to CCP to decide if it's relevant or not. The guy asked for a simple piece of information and you trolled him. You had absolutely no reason to do so. If you didn't want to answer properly, then don't answer. He asked a simple question with a simple answer and you felt the need to instead hand over your uninformed opinion. I don't really care whether or not you think people should be able to report things they find offensive, CCP have deemed that you can, and have always stated that if you are unsure you should file a ticket. Now his got his answer, he can go to CCP and they can make their decision. Move on.
No offense man, but this statement coming from you is pretty rich. I've seen you troll the everloving **** out of 100 threads here. Pot/Kettle and all that.
On a more serious note, what other possible outcome could be expected from posting this tripe on C&P?
If it weren't for trolls these forums would be a ghost town.
(Please note, this isn't an attack on your posting as I generally enjoy your trolling. Just sayin') ... |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
76
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:59:00 -
[65] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote: Hey fella. You made the thread and the statement on a public forum, not me. Once you hit that post button, you open yourself up to any and all criticism, doubly so when you make noxious statements. Also, I'm just a little surprised and curious that people can muster feelings as extreme as hatred over silly internet drama.
You're ok to criticise it constructively. When you do, you also open yourself to the very same criticism. It is actually what've been happening so far. I'm providing facts with my responses, but I often see judgement, misunderstanding and overengineering. |

Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
76
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Posted - 2014.05.14 22:03:00 -
[66] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote: On a more serious note, what other possible outcome could be expected from posting this tripe on C&P?
If it weren't for trolls these forums would be a ghost town.
This is no troll. It would have been easier if somebody just said "you've posted on the wrong forums". If wrong forum-posting is the case, then I would've requested a change from a mod. |

Winchester Steele
1128
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Posted - 2014.05.14 22:40:00 -
[67] - Quote
Shivanthar wrote:Winchester Steele wrote: Hey fella. You made the thread and the statement on a public forum, not me. Once you hit that post button, you open yourself up to any and all criticism, doubly so when you make noxious statements. Also, I'm just a little surprised and curious that people can muster feelings as extreme as hatred over silly internet drama.
You're ok to criticise it constructively. When you do, you also open yourself to the very same criticism. It is actually what've been happening so far. I'm providing facts with my responses, but I often see judgement, misunderstanding and overengineering.
Criticize away friend. Unlike yourself, I have very thick skin and am in control of my baser emotions. ... |

Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources
263
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Posted - 2014.05.14 22:49:00 -
[68] - Quote
Shivanthar wrote:
If you call a law is unjust and broken, then your actions against it, will simply determine how hard the consequences you'll face. You've to play by the book. You can choose not to, then you'll face the consequences of system. If you want to change a rule, gather a very large supporter crowd, get elected, gather political force and change it. Trying to change it by other means will make you receive its consequences.
I'm not here to query a rule's justice. I was here to learn the referee, and I was shown.
So like women not being allowed to drive in middle eastern countries?
Or girls that can't go to school because it's against the law?
Or when the Crown decided American Colonists shouldn't have guns anymore? GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1318

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Posted - 2014.05.14 23:39:00 -
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As the correct answer to OP's question has already been given in full and 'some' posters have felt it nesecary to break the forum rules, this thread gets a lock.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
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