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[Proposal]

Skill - Micro Jump Drive Calibration (5% per level to micro jump drive jump range)

MMJD - 60km base range (75km total range)

MJD - 100km base range (125km total range)


I think this is essential to keep BS's competitive, it would give them a strong edge over BCs, and 125km would fall nicely into BS sniping range. You could just do this without the need for a skill to be honest.

The one ship class that would benefit massively from this module is Logistics Cruisers (T2).

Being able to keep up with an MJDing battleship fleet would be fantastic for logi boats, assuming they had the fitting to be able to use one of these modules as well as an AB.

I personally hate the idea of putting these on command ships and battlecruisers - those ships really aren't hurting for manueverability when fitted right.

Really?


They don't do more DPS than cruisers, and don't really tank much more.

I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen someone flying a BC while soloing (not counting ABCs), and I can't remember the last time that I saw a fleet of BCs.

You can solo most BCs in a thorax without it being a particularly challenging fight.

I'm loving all these tears. Everytime I see a post exclaiming that MMJD need to be scrammable by a bubble or the world as we know it will end, I rejoice in the tears of lazy nullseccers and gate campers who are no longer going to be able to play their favourite game of fish in a barrel.

That being said, I do think the range of these mods need to be altered to make BS's stand out above BC's. Despite BS's having come a long way, more reasons to use BS's are always needed.

MMJD - 75km
MJD - 125km

125km would put a BS in perfect sniping range .

Brutix and Myrm I agree with, both are too tanky to do so. Cyclone is also pushing it, depending on how it's fit.

A dual rep thorax will be able to tank the others, while wearing down whatever tank they have.

For example, a drake can put out 534 DPS, assuming max skills, and T2 HAMs firing navy scourge. However, not all of that DPS will apply, leaving you with about 350ish DPS. Then once you account for resists you are looking at about 120 DPS. That's tankable with a single rep on a thorax (~150 DPS rep with a T2 MAR).

The biggest problem isn't killing the BC. It's killing the BC before his friends turn up, or if you are fighting on a gate, him deagro-ing.



So I guess maybe I should have rephrased what I said.

I haven't seen many BCs that did not then turn out to be bait for a fleet.

In general, having a wide variety of possible outcomes for any fight beyond the extreme "We kill them all with minimal losses" and "We lose everyone with minimal kills" is very healthy for EVE's combat environment at all scales.

You're not getting this. Right now 2 guys with cruisers and a lot of pilot skill can fight a half dozen larger ships as long as they are good at mitigating damage. I'm not saying the cruisers longpoint and call in help, I'm saying they longpoint and then kill them because where the larger ships opted for more tank and more dps the cruisers picked less dps, less tank, more speed and more projection. They picked fits which had significant tradeoffs but were rewarding if they had piloting skill and as such were able to win in spots where they shouldn't due to exploiting that piloting skill.

If warp disruptors don't lock down ships then you are forced to scram and brawl to get a kill and if you are forced to brawl then you are forced to just have more dudes in bigger ships. Right now you are not, fewer dudes can beat more dudes with piloting skill. It's not an issue of "well you can still lock them down while your blob gets there". We don't all have blobs.


It not only destroys the warp disruptor as a module but also any kind of agility/piloting skill based pvp because you can't guarantee a kill without being in their scram range. It's a huge, huge attack on a very popular style of pvp. People who try and win through manually piloting will not be able to attack half the things they currently can if they have to lock horns with a f1 brawl monkey in a brick scram ship to get a kill. It destroys their engagement profile.

If you want a module that allows your brawling ship to escape a warp disruptor that actually already exists in the game, people typically don't fit them because they want to be able to be able to max out their dps/tank numbers in EFT without expecting any tradeoff or thinking about whether or not they can actually apply it in real PvP.

My current kiting ship is a plated deimos. Yesterday I fought a gang of arazu, loki, scimitar, 2 sabres, stabber, stiletto, nidhoggur, thanatos. I drew the stabber out from rep range and killed it. You dont need speed mods to skirmish, just good piloting.

So let's say for the sakes of argument it is reasonable - what is the effective difference between that, and a MMJD for the solo pilot? It's still a fitting trade, it's not a guaranteed escape.

For small gang work - dedicate someone quick to carry a scram. Remember You don't NEED to fight in scram range all the time, so long as you can get there for the spool up time. The animation is a massive tell.

You personally lose kiting ships all the time, why do you think kiting ships dont die?

In what way does an arty firetail or beam executioner have a brawling mode?

Anyone out there aside from me dislike how powerful attack battlecruisers are? I am not saying they are OP, but a minor damage nerf would be nice IMO.

The one of the main reason alot of 0.0 alliance stopped using battlecruisers in fleets is becuase of bombs particulary agaisnt the Attack Battlecrsuiers. How about addressing bombs before adding a new module. (yes mjd bc would help but it opens up more room for sillyness rather than game balance).

But if they probably going ot be in game anyway, the cool down should be greater than that of larger version, 5-6mins atleast.

To be clear, we're not ruling out expansion to Attack Battlecruisers in the future. We'll start with these classes and see how it goes from there.

Haven't looked at T2 yet or faction but I imagine the story is similar and this module tends to favour armour tankers.