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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
189
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:57:00 -
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Synthetic Cultist wrote:It is Written, in the Apocryphon, that All may become Chosen, that All people are Equal in Gods Kingdom.
My interpretation of the text is that all have the potential to become Chosen and all who do become Chosen are equal for some spiritual meaning of the word equal; however, it is not necessarily true that those who are not Chosen are equal in any way. A Caldari is obviously superior to a Minmatar. |

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
1562
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Posted - 2014.05.21 01:12:00 -
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I would say that those that truly believe in racial or genetic concepts of superiority as not being guilty of intellectual dishonesty but rather, simple ignorance. It would be only those that lead a life of ignorance that would judge solely on the basis of race, and those most lacking in self-worth, substance, intelligence, and the refinement of culture that resort most often to the prejudices of racial vilification. This is quite easily displayed on the IGS at least, by directing just a modicum of intelligence towards those that appear to actually believe in genetic and racial theorems only to watch them descend into torpid, angry, and incoherent ranting due to your own display of real and actual superiority.
Of course such people that are too much the fool to believe racial stereotypes tend to be those too much the fool that they cannot see they manage to become a trite stereotype themselves. Which can be rather amusing at times, if rather sad, that there actually exist those people who believe racial prejudice is a source of strength for their own fundamental personal insecurities which it so often exposes. Then again it is perhaps natural to expect that idiotic people will believe in idiotic things. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
181
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:52:00 -
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Wendrika wrote:Everyone says that I'm suposed to be smart and good with machines, but I'm not. Is that bad? Is that being dishonest? I'd love the be brave, strong and an excellent pilot, I really would! But right now I'm just content of being able to afford a research laboratory filled with gadgets and gizmos for me to play with and a ship to fly in. And I got to meet so many people in the meantime.
Like Mister Nauplius for example. He is a mean monster, that says he hates me for being born the way I am, but I don't hate him or even dislike him. He is very passionate with his scriptures and preaching, however, but he could use more friends. I'd be more friendly to him if he didn't thought of it as an insult.
Miss Kim on the other hand, is the coolest pilot I know and I want to be just as cool as her! She takes no nonsense from anyone, loves the people she protects and upholds their way of life! Like a superhero! Everyone thinks she is wierd and overzealous though, and like to make fun of her way of thinking. I don't think that's very nice...
But I figure if everyone I meet in space is on top of the transhumanism pyramid, being quirky and passionate about their lives and activities is the only way we can stand out as individuals. And that's okay! We should accept everyone for what they are, even if we think what they do is wrong.
You are utterly adorable, Pilot Wendrika! If you ever fancy swapping gadgets and gizmos for chemicals, there's a place for you in my labs 
Karynn Denton Caravan Master
Boosters! Boosters! Boosters! Delivered to your station - Contact me! |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
190
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Posted - 2014.05.21 12:49:00 -
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Wendrika wrote:Like Mister Nauplius for example. He is a mean monster, that says he hates me for being born the way I am, but I don't hate him or even dislike him. He is very passionate with his scriptures and preaching, however, but he could use more friends. I'd be more friendly to him if he didn't thought of it as an insult.
I was slightly touched by this sentiment. For a second or two.
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Arkady Vachon
Intaki Technical Services Combine
914
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Posted - 2014.05.22 13:47:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Wendrika wrote:Like Mister Nauplius for example. He is a mean monster, that says he hates me for being born the way I am, but I don't hate him or even dislike him. He is very passionate with his scriptures and preaching, however, but he could use more friends. I'd be more friendly to him if he didn't thought of it as an insult. I was slightly touched by this sentiment. For a second or two.
Oh you're touched all right, right in the brainpan. Nothing Personal - Just Business...
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Destruction Derpy
State War Academy Caldari State
734
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:39:00 -
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I guess the ugly looking minmatar slave has a point...
Nah. Destruction Derpy 11 will be held on the 25th of May 2014! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345038&find=unread Frigates only! All pilots welcome! :D See bio for more! :D
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SynthesisX
4
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:53:00 -
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Destruction Derpy wrote:I guess the ugly looking minmatar slave has a point...
Nah. This person and citizen Kim prove that ugly women are not exclusive to any one race. The fact that they are both Caldari is simply a "horrible" coincidence, some of the most beautiful women are Caldari, these two just came up way short. But perhaps some like these boy looking people ..... to each his own as they say. lol don't get mad I only jest!
Now all joking aside, on the subject of this thread I think all the people of the different races are just fine, we all deserve respect for being members of the human race. No racial group is significantly better then the others.
The cultural and historical choices made by some groups have made them reviled, so they are subject to scorn and ridicule for being monstrous slavers. I look forward to the day when that curse no longer exists in New Eden and all the slavers have all been reformed or eliminated. Our state has made a tragic misstep in siding with this malignant evil that seems to be infecting the pure soul of the Caldari people. We need to stand for freedom, ours and for everyone else also. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1094
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Posted - 2014.05.26 20:55:00 -
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SynthesisX wrote: The cultural and historical choices made by some groups have made them reviled, so they are subject to scorn and ridicule for being monstrous slavers. I look forward to the day when that curse no longer exists in New Eden and all the slavers have all been reformed or eliminated. Our state has made a tragic misstep in siding with this malignant evil that seems to be infecting the pure soul of the Caldari people. We need to stand for freedom, ours and for everyone else also.
This is the worst crap I ever heard so far from "Caldari" person. Being so much brainwashed by gallentean "anti-slavery" propaganda is simply disgusting. Such weakness must not be tolerated! I hope you will die soon and dishonor you brought on your family will be washed with your blood, and your name will be erased from family archives. |

SynthesisX
4
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Posted - 2014.05.27 00:40:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:SynthesisX wrote: The cultural and historical choices made by some groups have made them reviled, so they are subject to scorn and ridicule for being monstrous slavers. I look forward to the day when that curse no longer exists in New Eden and all the slavers have all been reformed or eliminated. Our state has made a tragic misstep in siding with this malignant evil that seems to be infecting the pure soul of the Caldari people. We need to stand for freedom, ours and for everyone else also.
This is the worst crap I ever heard so far from "Caldari" person. Being so much brainwashed by gallentean "anti-slavery" propaganda is simply disgusting. Such weakness must not be tolerated! I hope you will die soon and dishonor you brought on your family will be washed with your blood, and your name will be erased from family archives. Take it easy citizen Kim. The state has not yet decreed that everyone has to be of a solitary opinion on what the state has decided, and disagreement is not punishable by death.
Diana GǪ. hey isn't that a Gallente name citizen Kim? Perhaps the scientists who hatched you from a test tube thought you needed to be identified as an un-pure Caldari experiment gone GǣhorriblyGǥ wrong either too much boy or too little girl, and stuck uncomfortably in the middle, androgynous is the correct category correct?
I can picture your DNA readout next to your picture hanging on the walls of genetic facilities all over Caldari space with a sign that reads GÇ£KEEP A SOBER WORK PLACE, WE DO NOT WANT TO MAKE ANY MORE OF THESE!GÇ¥ |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
197
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Posted - 2014.05.27 01:00:00 -
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SynthesisX wrote: I can picture your DNA readout next to your picture hanging on the walls of genetic facilities all over Caldari space with a sign that reads GÇ£KEEP A SOBER WORK PLACE, WE DO NOT WANT TO MAKE ANY MORE OF THESE!GÇ¥
I don't know, Diana Kim's killboard is pretty good; the Caldari authorities may be thinking, "if we had a couple hundred more of these, then the Federation wouldn't last a month". |
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Raposao1978
4
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:11:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:SynthesisX wrote: I can picture your DNA readout next to your picture hanging on the walls of genetic facilities all over Caldari space with a sign that reads GÇ£KEEP A SOBER WORK PLACE, WE DO NOT WANT TO MAKE ANY MORE OF THESE!GÇ¥
I don't know, Diana Kim's killboard is pretty good; the Caldari authorities may be thinking, "if we had a couple hundred more of these, then the Federation wouldn't last a month". Diana Kim is a blunt instrument best wielded by a thug like Tibus Heth, while you sir are a professional hate monger. I pity those like yourself who have nothing to offer beyond their vile bile. Self destruct so i can have your salvage ..... i'll get it anyway ..... and this saves us both some time! |

Nuona
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.07.10 19:19:00 -
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We could, at least, form a multilateral board of peer review for evaluating the intellectual honesty of IGS posts. While this wouldn't prevent the sort of behavior the original poster was complaining about, we might encourage a slight shift in discourse by rewarding contributors with some unofficial recognition.
Surely there are pilots with the time to do this. |

Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
53
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:49:00 -
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Nuona wrote:We could, at least, form a multilateral board of peer review for evaluating the intellectual honesty of IGS posts. While this wouldn't prevent the sort of behavior the original poster was complaining about, we might encourage a slight shift in discourse by rewarding contributors with some unofficial recognition.
Surely there are pilots with the time to do this.
I think it would be cool if different groups of people could have their own IGS forums without being in the same corp, just aligned with a predetermined faction. Although I doubt CONCORD would bother.
"Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |

Esna Pitoojee
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
422
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:03:00 -
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While such a thing does not exist at the moment, there are some Galnet channels which are intended to function similarly. For instance, I am connected to the Amarr-aligned channel, and I understand a Minmatar variant exists as well. |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company
116
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:22:00 -
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Esna Pitoojee wrote:While such a thing does not exist at the moment, there are some Galnet channels which are intended to function similarly. For instance, I am connected to the Amarr-aligned channel, and I understand a Minmatar variant exists as well.
This is true, although I can see the usefulness in Miss Silence's suggestion. I know it would be nice to post on forums that only the faithful have access to. Would avoid unnecessary hateful comments from those who do not understand the Amarr considering topics that do not concern them. Fide et honore.
(OOC/ IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |

Vladimir Tan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:45:00 -
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Democracies are hypocrisies and ineffective, tribalism are primitive and heavily influenced by irrational emotions, only people that realise these can be considered a person of intellect. But it is clear that there are exceptions to every social stereotype, like not all Gallentes are hypocrites, and not all Minmatars are impulsive monsters.
The Amarrians though, I think we need to consider them as aliens. Like a horde of angry old aliens.
Many Caldaris are sympathetic to the 'democratic' federation, as such it can be derived that even amongst us there's the usual degenerates. |

Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:44:00 -
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Vladimir Tan wrote: Democracies are hypocrisies and ineffective, tribalism are primitive and heavily influenced by irrational emotions, only people that realise these can be considered a person of intellect. But it is clear that there are exceptions to every social stereotype, like not all Gallentes are hypocrites, and not all Minmatars are impulsive monsters.
The Amarrians though, I think we need to consider them as aliens. Like a horde of angry old aliens.
Many Caldaris are sympathetic to the 'democratic' federation, as such it can be derived that even amongst us there's the usual degenerates.
There is no singular 'perfect' or 'superior' governmental system. Just as how there is no such thing as a perfect automation system, a perfect power grid, a perfect locomotive system or a perfect integrated circuit system. Everything ever devised by human hands and minds will always have a flaw somewhere that needs to be identified and planned for.
However, what works, works. It can always use some improvement, because even if it works most of the time it still isn't perfect. It still has flaws or it can be made to work better. However, unless more of us can bring ourselves to swallow our pride and admit that everything we devise is not perfect, is flawed and can be made better can we start actually making steps forward as a species. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
531
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Posted - 2014.07.11 03:15:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Vladimir Tan wrote: Democracies are hypocrisies and ineffective, tribalism are primitive and heavily influenced by irrational emotions, only people that realise these can be considered a person of intellect. But it is clear that there are exceptions to every social stereotype, like not all Gallentes are hypocrites, and not all Minmatars are impulsive monsters.
The Amarrians though, I think we need to consider them as aliens. Like a horde of angry old aliens.
Many Caldaris are sympathetic to the 'democratic' federation, as such it can be derived that even amongst us there's the usual degenerates.
There is no singular 'perfect' or 'superior' governmental system (except the law of Claudia). Just as how there is no such thing as a perfect automation system, a perfect power grid, a perfect locomotive system or a perfect integrated circuit system. Everything ever devised by human hands and minds will always have a flaw somewhere that needs to be identified and planned for. However, what works, works. It can always use some improvement, because even if it works most of the time it still isn't perfect. It still has flaws or it can be made to work better. However, unless more of us can bring ourselves to swallow our pride and admit that everything we devise is not perfect, is flawed and can be made better can we start actually making steps forward as a species. This. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1171
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Posted - 2014.07.11 03:24:00 -
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Vladimir Tan wrote: Many Caldaris are sympathetic to the 'democratic' federation, as such it can be derived that even amongst us there's the usual degenerates.
They should be called Hnolku, and not Caldari. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1171
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Posted - 2014.07.11 03:31:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Vladimir Tan wrote: Democracies are hypocrisies and ineffective, tribalism are primitive and heavily influenced by irrational emotions, only people that realise these can be considered a person of intellect. But it is clear that there are exceptions to every social stereotype, like not all Gallentes are hypocrites, and not all Minmatars are impulsive monsters.
The Amarrians though, I think we need to consider them as aliens. Like a horde of angry old aliens.
Many Caldaris are sympathetic to the 'democratic' federation, as such it can be derived that even amongst us there's the usual degenerates.
There is no singular 'perfect' or 'superior' governmental system. Just as how there is no such thing as a perfect automation system, a perfect power grid, a perfect locomotive system or a perfect integrated circuit system. Everything ever devised by human hands and minds will always have a flaw somewhere that needs to be identified and planned for. However, what works, works. It can always use some improvement, because even if it works most of the time it still isn't perfect. It still has flaws or it can be made to work better. However, unless more of us can bring ourselves to swallow our pride and admit that everything we devise is not perfect, is flawed and can be made better can we start actually making steps forward as a species. Indeed, and we strive to optimize even management process. Sometimes we make steps forwards, sometimes make mistakes and degrade ourselves (like we did by dissolving CPD). Through iterations we can choose what is best and what is most efficient.
However, yes, there is no perfect government system, but there are government systems that are highly inefficient, and we can arrange and sort them, and get rid of bad ones. For example, when our ancestors made a mistake of following gallenteans, we managed to take from them something what was efficient and usable: corporate structure. And we thrown away what was incredibly inefficient and degenerating: the democracy. |
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Slave A00073078
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2014.07.11 09:59:00 -
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Tsk tsk, all this rage. You all need to sit down, pop a few boosters and play some cards. Chillmode engage. |

Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
250
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Posted - 2014.07.11 11:29:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Vladimir Tan wrote: Democracies are hypocrisies and ineffective, tribalism are primitive and heavily influenced by irrational emotions, only people that realise these can be considered a person of intellect. But it is clear that there are exceptions to every social stereotype, like not all Gallentes are hypocrites, and not all Minmatars are impulsive monsters.
The Amarrians though, I think we need to consider them as aliens. Like a horde of angry old aliens.
Many Caldaris are sympathetic to the 'democratic' federation, as such it can be derived that even amongst us there's the usual degenerates.
There is no singular 'perfect' or 'superior' governmental system (except the law of Claudia). Just as how there is no such thing as a perfect automation system, a perfect power grid, a perfect locomotive system or a perfect integrated circuit system. Everything ever devised by human hands and minds will always have a flaw somewhere that needs to be identified and planned for. However, what works, works. It can always use some improvement, because even if it works most of the time it still isn't perfect. It still has flaws or it can be made to work better. However, unless more of us can bring ourselves to swallow our pride and admit that everything we devise is not perfect, is flawed and can be made better can we start actually making steps forward as a species. This. Hail Claudia! Deeper Feelings Inc. - Selling reality ... as fiction. ;) http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - #3 Uedama. sigh... can't even make a proper sig. :/
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Tweak Caltenco
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:55:00 -
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Slave A00073078 wrote:Tsk tsk, all this rage. You all need to sit down, pop a few boosters and play some cards. Chillmode engage. I second that.  |

Chronoxi
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.07.13 07:33:00 -
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Heathens, let me enlighten you on this.
"So the Lord sent forth the Chosen, to bring forth the light of faith And those who embrace his love Shall be saved by his grace For we are his shepherds in the darkness His Angels of Mercy. But those who turn away from his light, And reject his true word Shall be struck down by his wrath For we are his retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance" - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 4:45
We, God's chosen, were sent to redeem the various races. But many turned us away when we peacefully offered them a chance at salvation from their eternal damnation.
In the beginning everyone was equal, but chaos and blasphemy ensued. True Amarrs lived by God's side and were chosen to rule the world. So no, there is no equality between the races anymore. We True Amarrians are superior to all else. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
536
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:26:00 -
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Chronoxi wrote:Heathens, let me enlighten you on this.
"So the Lord sent forth the Chosen, to bring forth the light of faith And those who embrace his love Shall be saved by his grace For we are his shepherds in the darkness His Angels of Mercy. But those who turn away from his light, And reject his true word Shall be struck down by his wrath For we are his retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance" - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 4:45
We, God's chosen, were sent to redeem the various races. But many turned us away when we peacefully offered them a chance at salvation from their eternal damnation.
In the beginning everyone was equal, but chaos and blasphemy ensued. True Amarrs lived by God's side and were chosen to rule the world. So no, there is no equality between the races anymore. We True Amarrians are superior to all else. Denied. Your fantasy book proves nothing, all people are equal in the eyes of Claudia. It is your actions and attitude that I shall judge you on when the time comes. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Da Dom
Wii R
91
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Posted - 2014.07.13 18:32:00 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:I would like to challenge all those who speak here on IGS to meet the minimum standard of intellectual honesty when posting about groups of people that are GÇ£otherGÇ¥ than themselves, to apply all the rights, privileges, capacity, and humanity they attribute to themselves to the GÇ£othersGÇ¥ equally. If that standard is met I think it will elevate the overall conversation here on IGS.
A kitchen is a stressful place, even for a master chef. There will always be some apprentices that can not hack the job. :)(: |

Chronoxi
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.07.14 11:06:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Chronoxi wrote:Heathens, let me enlighten you on this.
"So the Lord sent forth the Chosen, to bring forth the light of faith And those who embrace his love Shall be saved by his grace For we are his shepherds in the darkness His Angels of Mercy. But those who turn away from his light, And reject his true word Shall be struck down by his wrath For we are his retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance" - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 4:45
We, God's chosen, were sent to redeem the various races. But many turned us away when we peacefully offered them a chance at salvation from their eternal damnation.
In the beginning everyone was equal, but chaos and blasphemy ensued. True Amarrs lived by God's side and were chosen to rule the world. So no, there is no equality between the races anymore. We True Amarrians are superior to all else. Denied. Your fantasy book proves nothing, all people are equal in the eyes of Claudia. It is your actions and attitude that I shall judge you on when the time comes.
Typical words of a heathen. Please continue to be ignorant, eventually all who deny God will be purged from existence. |

Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
298
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Posted - 2014.07.14 11:24:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Jinari Otsito wrote:I was slightly more perturbed by the "Minmatar Empire". Apparently something awesome went down and I missed out on it. Them damn Sebbies took over, finally, huh? It's the Sebiestor Plot.
Shhh! How can we scheme in secret if you tell everyone! Stop that! GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |

TomHorn
Dragonaurs Ndrangheta.
219
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Posted - 2014.07.14 13:07:00 -
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Vladimir Tan wrote: Democracies are hypocrisies and ineffective, tribalism are primitive and heavily influenced by irrational emotions, only people that realise these can be considered a person of intellect. But it is clear that there are exceptions to every social stereotype, like not all Gallentes are hypocrites, and not all Minmatars are impulsive monsters.
The Amarrians though, I think we need to consider them as aliens. Like a horde of angry old aliens.
Many Caldaris are sympathetic to the 'democratic' federation, as such it can be derived that even amongst us there's the usual degenerates.
I think you are mistaken Tan. Many Caldari are sympathetic to the Amarrian Empire. Their is a broad moral gulf that seperates the Amarr from their enemies. Their enemies sanctify death, the Amarr sanctify life, their enemies sanctify cruelty, and the Amarr mercy and compassion. That is the secret of their strength.
Why would Caldari's be sympathetic to a nation that has been killing our people for generations. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
671
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:02:00 -
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Why would we of the State be sympathetic to an Empire that quite demonstrably personify the antithesis to everything we have built? Generations of slavery where merits matter for naught. Work done for the betterment of the few rather than the State. Racial supremacy lunacy and religious hegemony etc etc.
I think you'll find we're hardly sympathetic to most of the other nations in New Eden. We just decide who to deal with for the best of the State and our own people. Unfortunately, these days that means the Empire that is, and should be, loathed by pretty much every civilized being in New Eden. When the political situation changes, I doubt there are many that'll even hesitate to bring the Federation and their consumers into the fold with open wallets. I mean arms. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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