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Anslo
Scope Works
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:21:00 -
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What in the hell is this thread.
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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
537
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:54:00 -
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Chronoxi wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Chronoxi wrote:Heathens, let me enlighten you on this.
"So the Lord sent forth the Chosen, to bring forth the light of faith And those who embrace his love Shall be saved by his grace For we are his shepherds in the darkness His Angels of Mercy. But those who turn away from his light, And reject his true word Shall be struck down by his wrath For we are his retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance" - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 4:45
We, God's chosen, were sent to redeem the various races. But many turned us away when we peacefully offered them a chance at salvation from their eternal damnation.
In the beginning everyone was equal, but chaos and blasphemy ensued. True Amarrs lived by God's side and were chosen to rule the world. So no, there is no equality between the races anymore. We True Amarrians are superior to all else. Denied. Your fantasy book proves nothing, all people are equal in the eyes of Claudia. It is your actions and attitude that I shall judge you on when the time comes. Typical words of a heathen. Please continue to be ignorant, eventually all who deny God will be purged from existence. Typical words of a Zealot. Please continue to live in your fantasy, your God is impotant. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3845
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Posted - 2014.07.14 20:55:00 -
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impotant. I like that word, since it defuses tension.
Those who believe can pretend he meant to say important. Those who don't can pretend he meant to say impotent.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |

Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
54
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:51:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:impotant. I like that word, since it defuses tension.
Those who believe can pretend he meant to say important. Those who don't can pretend he meant to say impotent.
I think he is a she.
And I think she is a Gallentean. "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |

Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3848
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:54:00 -
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On reflection I think you are correct - although I'm not certain why it's relevant that Claudia is Gallentean, unless your confusing me with Kim-haani. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |

Aden Ordinii
Mars-Alpha Works
0
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:44:00 -
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All in New Eden know...try to reson with an Amarr is like, trying to talk to a Jovian...waste of time. As a proud gallentean i love freedom and demoracy and the idea we are all equell is a good idea...but we are Capsuleers...we are imortel. Thats what makes us diffrent...but this diffrence is in biology not mind. The worst for us (all in New Eden) are Capsuleers who think of them selfs as Demi-Gods above mortal Humans. Killing without mercy! Let us at least be human in minde...for the sake of all. Together we could make New Eden a paradise. Oh i forgot the Amarrians. As long those scriptur lovers dont change, abandoning the view of them selfs. All of New Eden is lost and it will end in Blood and Death. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
538
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:05:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:On reflection I think you are correct - although I'm not certain why it's relevant that Claudia is Gallentean, unless you're confusing me with Kim-haani. Confirming both Gallente and female. Also, confusing you with Kimmy would be difficult. You have wit.... And a handsome jaw line. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3853
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Posted - 2014.07.16 01:07:00 -
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Well, I'm shocked I made that mistake now I take a proper look at you. Thank you for handling my oafishness so well. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
538
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Posted - 2014.07.16 04:23:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well, I'm shocked I made that mistake now I take a proper look at you. Thank you for handling my oafishness so well. My oafishness is handled well by many, I would be a poor person if I couldn't respond in kind. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
674
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Posted - 2014.07.16 04:50:00 -
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It's an understandable mistake. I keep mistaking Gallente boys for women too, given the lack of proper Civire chiseled jawlines or that Brutor bulk. I suppose it could also be all the times I'm asked if I'm a Gallente male for that matter. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Anslo
Scope Works
6000
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Posted - 2014.07.16 15:23:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:I suppose it could also be all the times I'm asked if I'm a Gallente male for that matter. You're not. Well damn. Learn something new every day...
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1737
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:52:00 -
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I for one would love to see a minimum standard of intellectual honesty.
As somebody who always attempts to use impeccable logic to make a point, it can be somewhat frustrating to find oneself in an argument with an intellectual pygmy. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
303
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:36:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:I for one would love to see a minimum standard of intellectual honesty.
As somebody who always attempts to use impeccable logic to make a point, it can be somewhat frustrating to find oneself in an argument with an intellectual pygmy.
There is so much selective perception in this post, it's like seeing things through a mantis shrimp's eyes. GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1237
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:09:00 -
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Hmm...
OP wrote:Can IGS Posts Meet A Minimum Standard of Intellectual Honesty?
Morwen Lagann wrote:Can they? Yes.
Will they? I wouldn't count on it.
... Yeah, I thought I'd given the only concise and to-the-point answer to the OP. Too bad it got buried by everyone else proving my point. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar |

Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3862
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Posted - 2014.07.17 14:59:00 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Hmm... OP wrote:Can IGS Posts Meet A Minimum Standard of Intellectual Honesty? Morwen Lagann wrote:Can they? Yes.
Will they? I wouldn't count on it. ... Yeah, I thought I'd given the only concise and to-the-point answer to the OP. Too bad it got buried by everyone else proving my point.
Half of the job is presentation, Morwen. It's no good being right if you're right in such a way that nobody pays attention. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1737
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Posted - 2014.07.17 16:26:00 -
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Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:I for one would love to see a minimum standard of intellectual honesty.
As somebody who always attempts to use impeccable logic to make a point, it can be somewhat frustrating to find oneself in an argument with an intellectual pygmy. There is so much selective perception in this post, it's like seeing things through a mantis shrimp's eyes.
Like I say, intellectual pygmies.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
128
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:35:00 -
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That thread.
Hmmm. People?
Can't you, for whatever supernatural entities or our undead not-so-sleepy posthuman overlords sake, please understand the fact that after spending 20+k years on separate worlds, you're simply different?
I mean, as different as it can ever happen without going different species different.
Can't you just accept the fact that a Caldari arguing with a Gallentean on the merits of democracy is only a few thousand years (that means, a bit) short of a slaver hound arguing with a... ergh, never mind... that Intaki cow thingy about the merits of being a herbivore?
You're different, people. Just accept it and kill each other in peace like other animals do. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
679
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:38:00 -
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Exploring differences is how you improve your own kind. Examine everything that is different, unknown, difficult or out of the ordinary. You'll find either flaws or improvements that can be applied or weeded out of your own societies, or even come up with something completely new should the right combination of information slosh around in your head in the right quantities.
No. Discussing the merits of a system of governance is not even remotely analogous to your rather stretched metaphor. It's the only way towards self-improvement.
Or you could of course just "kill each other in peace" because that's been known to do a whole lot of good. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
255
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:09:00 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Hmm... OP wrote:Can IGS Posts Meet A Minimum Standard of Intellectual Honesty? Morwen Lagann wrote:Can they? Yes.
Will they? I wouldn't count on it. ... Yeah, I thought I'd given the only concise and to-the-point answer to the OP. Too bad it got buried by everyone else proving my point.
I agreed with you immediately and left the thread ages ago Morwen.
Wasting attention on it is a waste of time.
edit: unless you were offended by the op, why would people post here aside from trolling or entertainment? let alone follow O_o I prefer nature and informational non-fiction myself, not this gallente holo-drama drivel. (I have nothing against you people, you just have the worst holo's and you know it.) -áFear The Tribes |

Anslo
Scope Works
6016
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:21:00 -
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Ayallah wrote:(I have nothing against you people, you just have the worst holo's and you know it.)
Confirmed.
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Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
256
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:22:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote: To be honest, I never met an alive Minmatar before I became a capsuleer. I knew that they exist somewhere, and that they have Minmatar Republic somewhere in the space. But nobody here really cared about them, who they are and what they were doing. There were some reports about business with minmatar corporation here and there, that's all the information we had.
My opinion about your peoples is a consequence of analysis of behaviour of minmatar people, their abilities, their manners, their honor, their tendencies to keep words and deals, or, more likely, not keeping them. All these actions, all these peoples I met, made my mind about Minmatar people. Most of information was provided by such peoples like Ayallah, Anabella Rella, and so on.
After talks with them, I am pretty sure, that I really don't want to discuss important things with peoples who have "intellect of a Brutor", or "honor of a Sebiestor".
You are probably the most ill-informed person I know of on the Minmatar people.
First clue: you could ask at any time and receive information.
Second: we, as a people wear our hearts on our shoulders and our truths in our graves. you always use the word Jajii and racism but you do so little to preserve your own people and culture that all you are doing is weakening the state. You should decide then who you are insulting, culture-wise. (though self awareness was never your thing.)
Third: leave the blob in huola some time, I do not have all summer to hunt you nor the inclination to join every fleet just to get a chance to shoot at you. let me ******* kill you already,
because you keep saying my name -áFear The Tribes |

Anslo
Scope Works
6016
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:25:00 -
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Ayallah wrote:Third: leave the blob in huola some time, I do not have all summer to hunt you nor the inclination to join every fleet just to get a chance to shoot at you. let me ******* kill you already,
If you joined our fleet you too could watch her ship disintegrate in a single second.
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Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
55
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:51:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:It's an understandable mistake. I keep mistaking Gallente boys for women too, given the lack of proper Civire chiseled jawlines or that Brutor bulk. I suppose it could also be all the times I'm asked if I'm a Gallente male for that matter.
Mmmh, sexeh  "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |

Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
256
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:01:00 -
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Anslo wrote: If you joined our fleet you too could watch her ship disintegrate in a single second.
I know, I know... -áFear The Tribes |

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
1611
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Posted - 2014.07.18 03:00:00 -
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"That which is asserted without facts can be dismissed without evidence."
-- The IGS in summary on its intellectual honesty. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
600
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Posted - 2014.07.18 03:53:00 -
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damnant quod non intelligunt The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
130
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Posted - 2014.07.18 11:53:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Exploring differences is how you improve your own kind. Examine everything that is different, unknown, difficult or out of the ordinary. You'll find either flaws or improvements that can be applied or weeded out of your own societies, or even come up with something completely new should the right combination of information slosh around in your head in the right quantities.
No. Discussing the merits of a system of governance is not even remotely analogous to your rather stretched metaphor. It's the only way towards self-improvement. Except that the same decades-old arguments repeated over and over in circles by the few eggers improve nothing, while the society moves on. Yes, sometimes it accidentally manages to fix itself - such was the case with Heth, for example - but the endless debates in capsuleer media had nothing to do with that outcome.
Quote:Or you could of course just "kill each other in peace" because that's been known to do a whole lot of good. So far exchanging words on the IGS never prevented most eggers and the baseliners involved in the war(s) to continue killing each other. A few reasonable people don't make the statistic, you can count them on both hands anyway. Silence the discussion, and the same thing will go on.
There was some sort of Caldari-Minmatar collaboration effort, where is it now? (The Gallente-Caldari one was killed off by the events around Caldari Prime and Heth, at least that is understandable).
And there is still the whole Amarr-Minmatar front that boils down to religious stuff and slavery, and those I woudn't even touch with a 30-foot pole.
Claudia Osyn wrote:damnant quod non intelligunt Generosus equus non curat canem latrantem. |

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1237
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Posted - 2014.07.18 12:25:00 -
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Ayallah wrote:edit: unless you were offended by the op, why would people post here aside from trolling or entertainment? let alone follow O_o I prefer nature and informational non-fiction myself, not this gallente holo-drama drivel. My first response was because a question was asked and I had a short, simple and accurate answer to that question that could be provided. No offense was taken; it's a question asked by what I'm reasonably certain is a decent number of people who wouldn't mind being able to actually have discussions or debates in a forum format without the usual back-and-forth ****-slinging, interruptions and thread derailment from people whose sole purpose is to do just that.
My second was out of amusement that the point of my first post had subsequently been proven in almost every single post following it across several pages.
Ayallah wrote:(I have nothing against you people, you just have the worst holo's and you know it.) As someone who doesn't watch holos very much anymore, I wouldn't really know who has the best or the worst out these days; regardless, it would be a matter of personal tastes and opinions and not some sort of absolute. Of what I have seen over the years, though, there is good and bad from pretty much every group that cares to make them. No group really had a solid grasp on having the "best" or "worst" overall.
But if you want to get into that sort of subjective commentary, I could point out that the Matari holos have a certain predilection - more like a fetish, really - for the overly-clich+¬ plotline of "overworked/abused slave rises up and overthrows his/her master and leads his/her people to freedom." It's cute for a handful of holos, but after a while it becomes pretty clear the only thing actually changing between the holos is the names (and sometimes the genders) of the characters and the location the story takes place.
Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
681
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Posted - 2014.07.18 12:59:00 -
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Oh on the contrary, Jade. It's changed quite a bit where it was supposed to. It's not necessarily the norm, but it happens often enough to count. Your own views or that of others change through discourse. One or two other readers might take different viewpoints into account and change their own. Sweeping societal changes aren't wrought on the IGS, but through several thousand if not millions of places quite similar to the IGS, through "the same decades-old arguments".
Silencing the discussion does nothing but put up walls between every camp and everything stagnates. These walls still exist and there's a certain waft of rot from every camp yet, but without the discussions it'll be even worse.
It's never been about sweeping entire demographics away in a burst of logic and reason. It's been about pitting your views against that of another and seeing if anything happens. Sometimes, often enough to make it worthwhile, it does. Frankly, trying to silence these exchanges reeks of fear. A fear that your own standpoint is on crumbling ground and must be protected from scrutiny or dissenting opinion. If you consider it sound and strong, you should be cherishing it whenever any viewpoint locks horns with another as it's the only way to raise the good ones and erode the ones without merit.
If you simply find it boring, go find some amusement rather than trying to silence that which no one has ever forced you to participate in. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
130
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Posted - 2014.07.18 14:26:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Oh on the contrary, Jade. It's changed quite a bit where it was supposed to. It's not necessarily the norm, but it happens often enough to count. Your own views or that of others change through discourse. One or two other readers might take different viewpoints into account and change their own. Sweeping societal changes aren't wrought on the IGS, but through several thousand if not millions of places quite similar to the IGS, through "the same decades-old arguments".
Silencing the discussion does nothing but put up walls between every camp and everything stagnates. These walls still exist and there's a certain waft of rot from every camp yet, but without the discussions it'll be even worse.
It's never been about sweeping entire demographics away in a burst of logic and reason. It's been about pitting your views against that of another and seeing if anything happens. Sometimes, often enough to make it worthwhile, it does. Frankly, trying to silence these exchanges reeks of fear. A fear that your own standpoint is on crumbling ground and must be protected from scrutiny or dissenting opinion. If you consider it sound and strong, you should be cherishing it whenever any viewpoint locks horns with another as it's the only way to raise the good ones and erode the ones without merit. Ha, I actually like this attitude. It is totally pointless, of course, but it's the people who think like that who sometimes get that slight chance to change something in the world -- or, at least, to leave a memory of themselves. Songs of their deeds will be sung by their kin at the lodge hearth, as the proper Minmatar would say.
Jinari Otsito wrote:If you simply find it boring, go find some amusement rather than trying to silence that which no one has ever forced you to participate in. This advice has its merit. Reading too much Galnet lately has peculiar effects on what's left of my brain, hehe. I'd better find some amusement elsewhere before I go and join the Disciples of Ston or something.
Cheers! |
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