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Markus45
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.20 08:43:00 -
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CCP once fielded a question to the CSM, asking them why most players do not get involved in the forums or the community much at all.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=344514
This is a great example why most players keep to themselves or their cliques and don't get involved with the larger community much past that. Specifically this is why most players who come on the forums to discuss an idea or ask a question never return after their first time.
There needs to be harsher penalties for this kind of trolling and disrespectful behavior, it contributes to much of the isolationist attitudes in the game which ultimately lead to lost subscriptions and $$$ over time.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
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Posted - 2014.05.20 08:50:00 -
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Sorry what do you think is in this example you have cited that lives up to your claim?
I am having a hard time seeing it myself
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1496
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Posted - 2014.05.20 08:50:00 -
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reserved
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Dave Stark
5887
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Posted - 2014.05.20 08:52:00 -
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if forum rules were broken, ccp will take action.
otherwise, i don't really see an issue here. the topic that you linked didn't even warrant a forum thread anyway. |
Markus45
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:09:00 -
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If anyone doubts my claim that they are just RL angry dudes getting their rocks off...
http://i.imgur.com/OrZeV1C.png
Pretty much clear admittance of it.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4404
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:14:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:If anyone doubts my claim that they are just RL angry dudes getting their rocks off... http://i.imgur.com/OrZeV1C.pngPretty much clear admittance of it.
You are basing your entire premise is based on something that is at the very least third-hand information
Can you please cite the problem-causing name or other facts?
Do you expect people to pick up their pitchforks again so quickly without evidence?
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
790
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:15:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:CCP once fielded a question to the CSM, asking them why most players do not get involved in the forums or the community much at all. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=344514This is a great example of why most players who come on the forums to discuss an idea or ask a question never return after their first time or second time. In the larger picture incidents like this are what cause players to keep to themselves and their cliques instead of getting involved with the community much past that. There needs to be harsher penalties for this kind of trolling and disrespectful behavior, it contributes to much of the isolationist attitudes in the game which ultimately lead to lost subscriptions and $$$ over time. What happened in that thread was not discussion, it was not criticism, it was not even innocent trolling. What happened in that thread was a group of angry men getting their rocks off at another person's expense.
If CCP had a dislike button we could dislike all the retards and their stupid bullshit and we wouldnt have to post to inform them of the fact that they're ********. Until this button gets added the only way to help people realize they're dumb is to call them out in their topics.
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Riyria Twinpeaks
Reasonable People
Of Sound Mind
1941
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:19:00 -
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I do think they jumped onto the OP in that linked topic quite aggressively.
And there are lots of topics on these forums which warrant a forum thread even less. Asking a simple question seems, to me, quite legitimate.
That said, in my experience reactions like that aren't that uncommon on a lot of forums, and most of the threads I'm reading on the eve forums are quite civil, really. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4405
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:21:00 -
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Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:I do think they jumped onto the OP in that linked topic quite aggressively.
And there are lots of topics on these forums which warrant a forum thread even less. Asking a simple question seems, to me, quite legitimate.
That said, in my experience reactions like that aren't that uncommon on a lot of forums, and most of the threads I'm reading on the eve forums are quite civil, really.
Oh, he's commenting on the replies and not the OP?
Well in that case...
That's why I normally never do forums
EvE is no different to any other forums on any topic anywhere in the world
We are just sexier than most other ubernerds
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Ham the Astrochimp
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:26:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:
What happened in that thread was not discussion, it was not criticism, it was not even innocent trolling. What happened in that thread was a group of angry men getting their rocks off at another person's expense.
Haaaa! Haaaaaaa!!
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Markus45
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:27:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345677&find=unread
No way this ever happens often, nope.
Children's books in my day.
Children's books today. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4407
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:31:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345677&find=unread
No way this ever happens often, nope.
Any chance you can clarify what you are trying to say?
Im not seeing anything unusual in any of these threads, this is stuff that happens on all other forums
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Riyria Twinpeaks
Reasonable People
Of Sound Mind
1941
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:34:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345677&find=unread
No way this ever happens often, nope.
Some trolls, some serious answers, no attacks, as far as I could see from skimming the first page.
I wouldn't say that is a particularly bad thread. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4057
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:48:00 -
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The internet is a harsh place. |
Ham the Astrochimp
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:54:00 -
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ftfy
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3425
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:57:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345677&find=unread
No way this ever happens often, nope. Actually, that one is fine. Originally the question just asked if you would need level 5 to refine ice, he edited it to add the perfect refine part later, so the answer was in fact no. It probably could have been explained in more detail, but realistically the answer would always be no, with the addendum that in any space, not just high sec, level 5 will be required to get the maximum yield possible, which would never be "perfect".
As for the other thread, yeah, people were trolling, which people do. That's not unique to these forums. Does it turn people away from the community? Sure it does, but we still end up with a pretty strong and diverse community compared to many other games. And the tools are there to report posts if the violate rules, so seems like they have put some thought into it.
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Sibyyl
Brave Collective
1055
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:59:00 -
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I was looking at the OP's linked thread and was shaking my head.. no.. no! the wonderful folks of GD would never behave like that, and then I scrolled up and saw C&P.
Well, that explains it.
C&P is like the shark tank that the attendants forgot to add food to, so it just feeds on itself and instantly consumes any new flesh.
People in EVE communicate with each other in different ways. The forum is only one of these ways.
Edit: Post #4 in OP's linked thread gave a clear and polite answer. OP could have followed it to get instant results. I don't understand..
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Dave Stark
5887
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Posted - 2014.05.20 10:05:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345677&find=unread
No way this ever happens often, nope.
some one asked a question.
it was answered in the first post.
what's the issue?
or are you just complaining for the sake of complaining? |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
683
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Posted - 2014.05.20 10:06:00 -
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People need to get a thicker skin.
I don't know if Steven Fry actually said this, but the quote is relevent
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
605
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Posted - 2014.05.20 10:07:00 -
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New people who have trouble on the forums generally don't spend enough time lurking to catch the flow or to understand the community.. then they end up making a post that either doesn't get a response or doesn't get the response they expected and they go away disappointed. The forums, like anything EvE, takes effort to figure out.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.20 10:07:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:People need to get a thicker skin. I don't know if Steven Fry actually said this, but the quote is relevent
even more so when most communication is digital and you can quite easily stop being involved with whatever it is that 'offends' you. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
5049
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Posted - 2014.05.20 10:37:00 -
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The sky is falling? We're talking GD, right? ...oh wait no, C&P  uh-duh? It's more competitive there.
Where was the bit about CCP wondering why players are not using forums or whatever? Actually that can be a good thing...  |
Orla- King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
51
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Posted - 2014.05.20 10:44:00 -
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I still can't decide if this is worth engaging or not.. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4411
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:00:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:I don't know if Steven Fry actually said this, but the quote is relevent
I hope he didn't
Because that's just ******* stupid
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Claud Tiberius
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:07:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:New people who have trouble on the forums generally don't spend enough time lurking to catch the flow or to understand the community.. then they end up making a post that either doesn't get a response or doesn't get the response they expected and they go away disappointed. The forums, like anything EvE, takes effort to figure out.
People also make mistakes. Forms, like EVE, forget that.
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
152
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:22:00 -
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I think the majority of EVE players are fairly mature and that it can't really be classed as a game for 'children'. The vast majority of replies to OPs in most of the boards will be civil even if they are inaccurate information  . The 'General Discussion', and to a lesser extent the 'Crime & Punishment' boards do not apply to this statement though and this is known by regular posters.
Therefore it is unfortunate if new players, players who are new to the forum, or people who do not have full knowledge of the English language make OPs in the G.D. or C&P boards. I don't foresee the behaviour changing in these two forums so make a 'sticky' should be added to both of them.
Something like:
'Shark infested waters. You will encounter extremely black humour and sarcasm in this board. You have been warned.' |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
5053
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:30:00 -
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Orla- King-Griffin wrote:I still can't decide if this is worth engaging or not..
no-no you insert it like that, deep, then give it a a sharp twist, yeah like like that you hear the bones crack. Makes the makes the blood squirt and bleed out faster. yeah yeah that's the idea.
But seriously, it's like the spelling police on steroids. If we post here, maybe this will be his next few "troll" examples for him, immortalized, win-win 
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy
Caldari State
623
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:02:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Markus45 wrote:CCP once fielded a question to the CSM, asking them why most players do not get involved in the forums or the community much at all. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=344514
This is a great example of why most players who come on the forums to discuss an idea or ask a question never return after their first time or second time. In the larger picture incidents like this are what cause players to keep to themselves and their cliques instead of getting involved with the community much past that. There needs to be harsher penalties for this kind of trolling and disrespectful behavior, it contributes to much of the isolationist attitudes in the game which ultimately lead to lost subscriptions and $$$ over time. What happened in that thread was not discussion, it was not criticism, it was not even innocent trolling. What happened in that thread was a group of angry men getting their rocks off at another person's expense. If CCP had a dislike button we could dislike all the retards and their stupid bullshit and we wouldnt have to post to inform them of the fact that they're ********. Until this button gets added the only way to help people realize they're dumb is to call them out in their topics. lol i like how the forum filters out reta rded but not retards.
They do have a dislike button. It's labled ignore. Most people wont ignore others because they are afraid they will miss out on a chance to troll somone. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
4417
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:34:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
They do have a dislike button. It's labled ignore. Most people wont ignore others because they are afraid they will miss out on a chance to troll somone.
You know, Hawk, its actually quite interesting how many of your posts I agree with these days
Either theres hope for me, or hope for you, or the Universe is just plain out of luck lol
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
277
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:45:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:CCP once fielded a question to the CSM, asking them why most players do not get involved in the forums or the community much at all. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=344514This is a great example of why most players who come on the forums to discuss an idea or ask a question never return after their first time or second time. In the larger picture incidents like this are what cause players to keep to themselves and their cliques instead of getting involved with the community much past that. There needs to be harsher penalties for this kind of trolling and disrespectful behavior, it contributes to much of the isolationist attitudes in the game which ultimately lead to lost subscriptions and $$$ over time. What happened in that thread was not discussion, it was not criticism, it was not even innocent trolling. What happened in that thread was a group of angry men getting their rocks off at another person's expense.
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