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Moistmuffin RKHT
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2011.11.16 21:48:00 -
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So I used to have a Vexor (3 of them) they're no more do to various reasons, but now in my Eve life I wonder if I should get one again or not?
The ships I use are:
Tristan / Incursus - for scouting around asteroid belts I want to mine at and removing npc pirates
Iteron Mk3 - Drops off ore and containers
Catalyst - Salvager / Mining Alt defense
Brutix - Group Mission Running / Mission Support dps for L3's and 4's
Megathron - Looks pretty in my hangar cause I don't want it to blow up
Prior to my mining account training mining barges I was mining with my Vexor, but I'm thinking maybe it'd make a good all-purpose vessel since I can use so many drones (combat, mining, repair)
I don't know, I still feel pretty lost to what I should be doing with what ship. Also I train for ships based entirely on the way they look. 
I created Ave Molech and I love ponies. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
148
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:32:00 -
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A better question is "Is there any reason you shouldn't get one?" There's no limit to the type or number of ships you can have if you want them. If you want a ship and you have the ISK, go get it. |
Moistmuffin RKHT
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:39:00 -
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Oh no, now you've made me want to collect them all, here comes pok-eve-mon
I created Ave Molech and I love ponies. |
Roime
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:40:00 -
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It's a great pvp cruiser.
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Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:41:00 -
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For PVP, cruisers other than the Blackbird are basically obsolete. With the large destroyer buff and new BCs incoming, I can see this situation only worsening. |
Goodgodyourface
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.17 01:00:00 -
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I plan to have my main able to fly every Tier 1 subcap of every race, and to that extent I'm storing them all in my base in Jita.
Is it economic? No. Does it accomplish anything? Nope. But training up to racial BS III only takes about a week, so why the hell not?
EDIT: This'll make you more viable for null/lowsec corps, btw, as you won't be limited in what you can fly. Nothing worse than being in a WH, losing your ship but escaping with your pod, but the only spare ships anyone can lend you are ones you can't fly. |
Moistmuffin RKHT
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2011.11.17 01:50:00 -
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Goodgodyourface wrote:Nothing worse than being in a WH, losing your ship but escaping with your pod, but the only spare ships anyone can lend you are ones you can't fly.
You totally gave me an epiphany here, I hadn't even considered that before, but realizing now that a lot of the bases I dock at if I were to look at what is in their ship market don't always have ships I could pilot. Thanks! :)
I created Ave Molech and I love ponies. |
erfta
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.17 01:50:00 -
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Goodgodyourface wrote:I plan to have my main able to fly every Tier 1 subcap of every race, and to that extent I'm storing them all in my base in Jita.
Is it economic? No. Does it accomplish anything? Nope. But training up to racial BS III only takes about a week, so why the hell not?
EDIT: This'll make you more viable for null/lowsec corps, btw, as you won't be limited in what you can fly. Nothing worse than being in a WH, losing your ship but escaping with your pod, but the only spare ships anyone can lend you are ones you can't fly.
it takes <7 days to flay a races t1 subcaps and 10 for mining barges, make that all subcaps and then you have an achievement
no one reads the TOS not even the guy that writes it. this is sig worthy
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/mortal-online-plagiarizes-eve-onlines-terms-of-service/1#c35015206 |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2011.11.17 02:43:00 -
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I have an Arbitrator in my hangar at all times. Love that ship. |
Desudes
Federal Defence Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.17 02:59:00 -
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Cheap ass PvP is the joy of t1 cruisers.
Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu? |
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.17 03:19:00 -
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If you buy ships based entirely upon the way they look you will be very happy with the reskinned Vexor graphics in the expansion coming out in two weeks. It looks great now. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.17 03:49:00 -
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Upgrade to Rifters and never look back.
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Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.17 04:37:00 -
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erfta wrote:Goodgodyourface wrote:I plan to have my main able to fly every Tier 1 subcap of every race, and to that extent I'm storing them all in my base in Jita.
Is it economic? No. Does it accomplish anything? Nope. But training up to racial BS III only takes about a week, so why the hell not?
EDIT: This'll make you more viable for null/lowsec corps, btw, as you won't be limited in what you can fly. Nothing worse than being in a WH, losing your ship but escaping with your pod, but the only spare ships anyone can lend you are ones you can't fly. it takes <7 days to flay a races t1 subcaps and 10 for mining barges, make that all subcaps and then you have an achievement
Working on it, unfortunately. 5 ship classes to go! Whoo! |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2011.11.17 09:21:00 -
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My plan is to own every Navy Faction BS, just for the ship spinning and occasional mission
Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |
Dracko Malus
Starfrackers Inc
Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:04:00 -
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Dalloway Jones wrote:If you buy ships based entirely upon the way they look you will be very happy with the reskinned Vexor graphics in the expansion coming out in two weeks. It looks great now.
Have you got a link to that?
Oh, and I collect Freighters because they look so cool... |
pussnheels
Vintage heavy industries
170
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:22:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I have an Arbitrator in my hangar at all times. Love that ship.
this
Best multirole ship in the game and so cheap
and since you already trained in gallente only a small step to train for a arbitrator
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:26:00 -
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Moistmuffin RKHT wrote:Oh no, now you've made me want to collect them all, here comes pok-eve-mon
the name for the next expansion is Eve Online: Gotta catch them all! |
Dracko Malus
Starfrackers Inc
Quantum Forge
3
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:43:00 -
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Barbie D0ll wrote:Moistmuffin RKHT wrote:Oh no, now you've made me want to collect them all, here comes pok-eve-mon the name for the next expansion is Eve Online: Gotta catch them all!
Oh, I though it was Gotta-CRUSHMAH-Balls...
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Riedle
Paradox Collective
15
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:04:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:For PVP, cruisers other than the Blackbird are basically obsolete. With the large destroyer buff and new BCs incoming, I can see this situation only worsening.
Obviously you don't PVP - 75% of mt PVP ships are cruiser sized. |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:07:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Duchess Starbuckington wrote:For PVP, cruisers other than the Blackbird are basically obsolete. With the large destroyer buff and new BCs incoming, I can see this situation only worsening. Obviously you don't PVP - 75% of mt PVP ships are cruiser sized.
He's referring to T1 cruisers. |
Xuse Senna
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:08:00 -
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Ack I was thinking the same the other day how much I missed my Vexor, used to use it for Lvl's 2 and 3s No guns Just drones with Tractor/Salvage xD |
Gellenter Pl
The Final Solution Inc.
Exiled Ones
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:49:00 -
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Many new players seems to underestimate the cruiser class ships, but in fact they are the most diverse and effective class of ships, particularly their T2 versions. |
Riedle
Paradox Collective
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Posted - 2011.11.17 15:18:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:Riedle wrote:Duchess Starbuckington wrote:For PVP, cruisers other than the Blackbird are basically obsolete. With the large destroyer buff and new BCs incoming, I can see this situation only worsening. Obviously you don't PVP - 75% of mt PVP ships are cruiser sized. He's referring to T1 cruisers.
yes, perhaps. I eas going off of the title of the thread. |
m0cking bird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.17 16:25:00 -
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Yeah! because your mother likes the way cruisers move (fast)... |
Princess Nexxala
The Rock Hard Roosters
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:07:00 -
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This is just silly. Although the point about destroyers does have merit.
Duchess Starbuckington wrote:For PVP, cruisers other than the Blackbird are basically obsolete. With the large destroyer buff and new BCs incoming, I can see this situation only worsening.
arbi, caracal, rupture, and bb are all very effective PvP cruisers, and getting into faction the SFI and Vigilant are good and the Cynabal is one of the best ships in the game. A properly flown cyn can even go toe to toe with a lot of BC fits.
I also have seen ships like the celestis and bellicose be very effective, although personally I am not a fan.
Is sexy time? |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:50:00 -
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I was indeed referring to T1 cruisers. Thanks to insurance, the price gap between those and battlecruisers is so small it's basically pointless to fly them.
Versatile fitting-wise but generally overrated, only really shines at killing frigates and a very lengthy list of ships do that better.
Only good at killing frigates, and will be facing much tougher competition for that role soon.
Completely obsoleted by battlecruisers.
Quote:SFI, Vigilant, Cynabal
Are not T1 cruisers and are in fact worth using.
Quote:also have seen ships like the celestis and bellicose be very effective
The Bellicose doesn't do anything worth mentioning (besides being a surprisingly workable level 2 runner), and the Celestis is inferior to the Blackbird. |
Tamiya Sarossa
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2011.11.18 01:46:00 -
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Shockingly enough, flying the best ships in PvP isn't always the best plan. Cruisers are great at getting fights that you wouldn't get in a BC - I'm a particular fan of the Celestis.
This isn't to say that they aren't overshadowed for the most part by BC's, but they certainly have their niches and the game is better off for this diversity. Simply removing the tier system and giving all cruisers as many slots/fttings as the highest tier would go a long way to making more of them viable. |
Emily Poast
The Whipping Post
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Posted - 2011.11.18 02:22:00 -
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All of the races have good T1 cruisers. You should always have a few lying about. I personally love vexors. You can do anything with them.
I use Vexors for:
High-sec loot shuttle for goods I dont want ganked.
Nano fit for lowsec movement
Safespot making/Scouting/Wormhole and other probing (with a cloak)
Missions of course (when I did them)
FW solo medium plexor (armor or shield). (I have to warp out once on one tough one.) Still has some ability to defend itself in PVP too.
PVP frig killer
General purpose/Solo PVP (blasters or projectiles)
Neut Vexor
700+ dps ganker
And dont tell anyone, but I actually mined with it (Once!). I think it was my only time to mine after the intro.
Even rigged and fully T2 fit, the whole thing costs you about ~15M before insurance I think? Love the Vexor.
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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2011.11.18 02:57:00 -
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Vexor rocks for pvp
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
118
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Posted - 2011.11.18 08:53:00 -
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Combat T1 cruisers are all basically obsoleted by the Hurricane, which can normally be fit to have more, better-tracking DPS on a faster hull with more EHP. The non-Blackbird ewar cruisers are basically less effective than a Drake with meds filled up with ewar.
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:Shockingly enough, flying the best ships in PvP isn't always the best plan. Cruisers are great at getting fights that you wouldn't get in a BC - I'm a particular fan of the Celestis.
But despite my criticism of T1 cruisers, this is absolutely the truth. |
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