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        |  PriceCheckMax
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 07:13:00 -
          [61] 
 
  Originally by: Weirda 
 Weirda's Gank Omen (not max skill) ~400dps
  
 and pretty sure that NO bc can come close to touching the Absolution for DPS...
 
 
 
 400dps on Omen, how? Care to explain the setup?
 
 Astarte can't come close to touching the absolution DPS?
 
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        |  soul colector
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 07:57:00 -
          [62] 
 yeah, sure...
 
 i want then tepmest with 8 turret hardpoints....
    
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        |  Yodohime Kibagami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 08:10:00 -
          [63] 
 The damage types are fine really, problem is that 1/4'th of the weapons have so heavy fitting demands you cant realistically use them any better than one class size smaller weapon or some other faction's weapons.
 
 Full rack of heavy pulses is tight fit even on prophecy
  
 
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        |  EEHope
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 08:17:00 -
          [64] 
 Armarr guys pls don't whine about lasers
 
 Why?
 1# You guys dun need use Ammo bassicely you can pvp all day without worring omg my ammo is gettin low.
 2# Don't forget u guys have drones bays USE IT!!!
 3# You guys are the best Cap ship around. Forgot your insane Cap bonusses?
 4# Its a style of taste imo Armarr Race has the hotest ships around...
 5# You guys can change crystals when you want to for pvp setting atm u can go from long to short range in 10 secs cuse you guys dun carry Ammo's bassicly its comes to point #1
 
 
 And still you dont like how the laser works?
 then Armarr isnt the race for you. PLS go reroll to other Race ships (gallente, caldari, minmatar). Yess you can fly them also -.-;
 
 Cheers |MASS| EEHope
 
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        |  LUKEC
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 08:27:00 -
          [65] 
 well all i can say here is pimp your drone skills and fly geddon... 250dps from berserkers II is 50% dps of cruiseraven.
 
 Die, die, die.
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        |  Tehyarec
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 09:20:00 -
          [66] 
 Edited by: Tehyarec on 02/06/2006 09:24:01
 I don't see how a laser could possibly do kinetic or explosive damage. Makes no sense.
 
 Besides, indeed if we go that route, hybrids would need to get changeable damage too.
 
 Also, if you think about it, all missiles should do kinetic damage, and most also explosive (in addition to their main damage type that is)
  
 It's fine as it is. If you change one weapon, you have to change almost all of them, not to mention Minmatar ships resistances would then need to be looked at, etc... too much work in any case.
 
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        |  Godar Marak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 09:24:00 -
          [67] 
 
  Originally by: EEHope Armarr guys pls don't whine about lasers
 
 Why?
 1# You guys dun need use Ammo bassicely you can pvp all day without worring omg my ammo is gettin low.
 
 
 
 No need for ammo+no reload time because crappy fall of. Reload bug, been there for ages. Not even a mention of a fix.
 
 
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 2# Don't forget u guys have drones bays USE IT!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 No **** sherlock
  
 
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 3# You guys are the best Cap ship around. Forgot your insane Cap bonusses?
 
 
 Insane? The only thing insane is you. I suggest you actually fly Amarr before you post.
 
 
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 4# Its a style of taste imo Armarr Race has the hotest ships around...
 
 
 Dont judge a book by its cover. Logic 101.
 
 
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 5# You guys can change crystals when you want to for pvp setting atm u can go from long to short range in 10 secs cuse you guys dun carry Ammo's bassicly its comes to point #1
 
 
 False. See point 1.
 
 
 
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 And still you dont like how the laser works?
 then Armarr isnt the race for you. PLS go reroll to other Race ships (gallente, caldari, minmatar). Yess you can fly them also -.-;
 
 
 Come back when you actualy know what you are talking about.
 
 
 
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        |  Hop3
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 09:58:00 -
          [68] 
 Edited by: Hop3 on 02/06/2006 09:58:43
 
  Originally by: Godar Marak 
 No need for ammo+no reload time because crappy fall of. Reload bug, been there for ages. Not even a mention of a fix.
 
 
 That's why i said go fly other ships
 
 
  Originally by: Godar Marak 
 No **** sherlock
  
 
 No comment i bet your one of people who actually use Drones. :)
 
 
  Originally by: Godar Marak 
 Insane? The only thing insane is you. I suggest you actually fly Amarr before you post.
 
 
 Name one race who cap bonusses like your ships does you guys can shoot %50 less each shot
 
 
  Originally by: Godar Marak 
 Dont judge a book by its cover. Logic 101.
 
 
 agreed.. but still it looks hot
 
 
  Originally by: Godar Marak 
 Come back when you actualy know what you are talking about.
 
 
 
 Atleast i don't whine about my race
 
 |MASS| EEHope
 
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        |  Weirda
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 10:03:00 -
          [69] 
 
  Originally by: PriceCheckMax 
 400dps on Omen, how? Care to explain the setup?
 
 Astarte can't come close to touching the absolution DPS?
 
 
 omen setup is about as obvious as they come.
 
 focused med pulse II, conflagration, 3xdmg mod, assault launcher, drones...
 
 forgot about Astarte
  
 Absolution is arguably best though.
  __
 Weirda
 Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More!
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        |  Frools
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 10:05:00 -
          [70] 
 
  Originally by: PriceCheckMax 
 400dps on Omen, how? Care to explain the setup?
 
 
 
 heavy pulse II + conflag, rocket launcher, 3 heat sinks, 3 t2 light drones gets you over 400dps
 at that point you have 1 low slot and no grid to tank in though
 
 more grid for omen please! (like 150 or something
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        |  Godar Marak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 10:12:00 -
          [71] 
 Edited by: Godar Marak on 02/06/2006 10:13:13
 
  Originally by: Hop3 
 That's why i said go fly other ships
 
 
 
 
 I do. Im flying a tempest these days and I'm loving it.
 Does that mean amarr shouldnt get a boost? No.
 
 
 edit : Posted with wrong character ehh?
  
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        |  Lucre
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 10:49:00 -
          [72] 
 One does have to wonder why, if Minmatar ship designers are (entirely logically) building ship defences specifically to resist the lasers of their racial enemy, why Amarr ship designers aren't equally building ships specifically to benefit from the weapons which will do most damage to those Minmatar ships?
 
 Maybe like an Apoc but with a Tempest's projectile bonuses instead of cap and laser cap?
  
 (Though of course presumably the RP answer is that they wouldn't want to demean their ships by building them to fit that sort of junk...)
  
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        |  Lucre
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.02 10:54:00 -
          [73] 
 
  Originally by: Hop3 
  Originally by: Godar Marak 
 No need for ammo+no reload time because crappy fall of. Reload bug, been there for ages. Not even a mention of a fix.
 
 
 That's why i said go fly other ships
 
 
 
 So your argument is that Amarr weapons don't need fixing because people can always go fly other ships?
 
 True, but I feel unhelpful...
 
 
  
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        |  Aemilus Brutus
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.03 01:56:00 -
          [74] 
 Must keep thread alive
  
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        |  Stive Svenskere
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.03 02:00:00 -
          [75] 
 
  Originally by: wierchas noobhunter um ammar nned more dmg tipes >?
 oki just ducktape to apoc some sharp sticks and taran your enemys
 oki now we have + kin dmg
  
 
 Sprechen sie english?
 
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        |  Kaylana Syi
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.03 02:27:00 -
          [76] 
 NO... kthx
 
 EM is such an underated damage type...
 
 
  Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
 
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        |  CrimsonTears
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.06.03 03:56:00 -
          [77] 
 Edited by: CrimsonTears on 03/06/2006 03:57:24
 ok there are only 4 dmg types in eve, so logicly you would think a laser would do thermal dmg and due to to constant stream of energy it would be slightly better hitting sheilds then armor... so thats EM and thermal dmg, how the hell is a laser going to do explosive or kenetic dmg? dont know if this has be said before, but it makes complete sence why lasers dmg the way they do and why they would be better at taking out shields then armor.
 
 besides if we are talking about light here all we need to make it slice through armor better would be to focus it more... a crystal making it a vary small tight and hot beam would do it, making it where it had no EM dmg but alot of thermal.
 
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