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Hein	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:13:00 - [1] First and most important: Im not complaining about anything, just wanna know if this new caldari BS will be only turret or ill be turret missile? Im asking this because im training my alt to be a caldari/missile expert, so if this new BS come and wanna be a hibrid bastard ill have to star buying some new books... I know that any information now doesn't pass of speculations, but i got be prepared! Thanks.
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:19:00 - [2] We don't really know for sure but the rumor is that it will be a railboat. It will probably have some missile hardpoints but be turret-based for the most part. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
Mjala	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:22:00 - [3] you have at the moment the megathron and the raven. where is your problem ?? or is this alt an rpg charakter ??
keepiru	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:26:00 - [4] some of us would like a bs-sized shield-tanking railboat, y'know? and not everyone is as lame as the fotm crowd, thankfully. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
babylonstew	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:58:00 - [5] Originally by: keepiru some of us would like a bs-sized shield-tanking railboat, y'know? and not everyone is as lame as the fotm crowd, thankfully. QFT Forum advice Linkage
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Hein First and most important: Im not complaining about anything, just wanna know if this new caldari BS will be only turret or ill be turret missile? Im asking this because im training my alt to be a caldari/missile expert, so if this new BS come and wanna be a hibrid bastard ill have to star buying some new books... I know that any information now doesn't pass of speculations, but i got be prepared! Thanks. Get training your Gunnery Skills, Caldari dont have a Hybrid Turret BS yet, so you can pretty much bet your little cotton socks that it will be a Hybrid Turret BS.
St Dragon	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:17:00 - [7] First of all the tier 1 and 2 battleship are missileships, We currently dont have a Battleship aimed towards gunnery. In the caldari cruiser selection we have both missile ships and gun ships. So just by this it would make some sence for us to have a gunship as tier 3 as it would fil in a gap in the battleship department. Now some time ago ccp promised it would be a gunship and if you look at the concept art it has 8 Turrets. And yes the concept art is accurate.....Dont belive me? then look at the new eve promotional videa that shows an amarr tier 3 battleship firing all 8 lasers then look at the concept art and compare. So yes train up your gun skills that ship will have Gun based bonuses on it. ----------------------------------------------- "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:41:00 - [8] The Caldari Tier 3 BS may be good enough to finally get me to train Caldari Frig past 2...would be a first on any of my characters. Click Above
Pwyle Kenobi	Posted - 2006.06.02 00:22:00 - [9] Originally by: keepiru some of us would like a bs-sized shield-tanking railboat, y'know? Very true! Bring it on! It's just a shame it will probably only have 7 gun turrets rather than 8.
Izo Azlion	Posted - 2006.06.02 00:45:00 - [10] Its the very reason why i'm in a Mega. Training my gunnery up and learning how BS's handle. Its **ing fun. I cant wait. Megathron and Caldari Tier 3 in my hanger, kitted out? Oh, yes, yes please. Izo Azlion. Sha Kharn. Ascendant Frontier** ---
Lojik	Posted - 2006.06.02 01:20:00 - [11] If that baby has 8 turrets hardpoints i am gonna cry happy tears Zomg your 425mm tech 2 railgun just hit target for 350dmg x 8 at 250km = PWNAGE My word is my life, Do not test my word or i will take your life.
Hein	Posted - 2006.06.02 02:34:00 - [12] Gonna make some cash... Book aren't free... Those NPC are going to DIE... Sorry get excited.
Icek Villawrov	Posted - 2006.06.02 03:12:00 - [13] Originally by: babylonstew Originally by: keepiru some of us would like a bs-sized shield-tanking railboat, y'know? and not everyone is as lame as the fotm crowd, thankfully. QFT not ot sound repetitive, but QFT My signature has the anti-mod defense of insignificance!
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.06.02 03:34:00 - [14] Originally by: Hein First and most important: Im not complaining about anything, just wanna know if this new caldari BS will be only turret or ill be turret missile? Im asking this because im training my alt to be a caldari/missile expert, so if this new BS come and wanna be a hibrid bastard ill have to star buying some new books... I know that any information now doesn't pass of speculations, but i got be prepared! Thanks. It'll probably be 8 turrets, which will be horribly hard to fit with 8 425mm t2 rails (need fitting mods for other mods im sure). I'm guessing 10% range, 5% resists, like with every other rail ship.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.06.02 03:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Lojik If that baby has 8 turrets hardpoints i am gonna cry happy tears Zomg your 425mm tech 2 railgun just hit target for 350dmg x 8 at 250km = PWNAGE And people will still whine about missiles.
McFly Stickybuds Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.21 04:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Tuxford's blog Rokh Bonuses: * 10% large hybrid optimal range per level * 5% shield resistance per level Caldari favor missiles and hybrids as a primary weapon system. They usually get a range bonus for hybrids which is a lot more beneficial to railguns than it is to blasters. Their "railgun" ships however usually have fewer turret hardpoints than other races turret ships. The Rokh does not, its not really lacking in the missile hardpoint department but it does have 8 turret hardpoints as well. As to what his blog says all the new tier 3 Bs's will be turret based. Tuxford's blog
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.21 05:39:00 - [17] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 21/09/2006 05:39:38 Originally by: McFly snip Exacly. The Rohk will have 8 turrets with 10% range bonus and will be the longest range sniper ship in the game. Preliminary stats said it also had 4 missile launcher slots, but thats several months back. There are no trustworthy stats yet, and probably wont be for a long time. They are currently trying to fix up the game cluster so it doesnt lag or crash as much. Then after that, Kali deployment. Just want to add that those 425 II railguns now cost about 15 million each. And you need 8. Have fun. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Lord Infy Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.21 06:00:00 - [18] Rokh should be like Moa, bonus to range and shield resists. And the slots should follow Moa. So: 6 x Turret slot 2 x Launcher slot There's no real turret caldari ship in game that would be devoted entirely to turrets so Rokh has to follow the tradition, it cannot be ALL turret ship!
FFGR Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.09.21 06:27:00 - [19] You could also refrain from posting info in a 3 and a half month old thread. _____________________________ siggys v. 0.5
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.21 06:31:00 - [20] Originally by: Lord Infy Rokh should be like Moa, bonus to range and shield resists. And the slots should follow Moa. So: 6 x Turret slot 2 x Launcher slot There's no real turret caldari ship in game that would be devoted entirely to turrets so Rokh has to follow the tradition, it cannot be ALL turret ship! No. It would be completely useless with only 6 turrets, even our bumbling balance dev Tuxford realized that, so please don't start in on this one again, it makes my eyes hurt. Keep in mind that with the 250km targetting cap, and Spike L, and a Megathron's 25% damage bonus, a Mega can outdamage an 8-turret Rokh at nearly the same range. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! byahahahahaha!11 Sig Pwnt - Immy
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.21 06:35:00 - [21] Oh, and those other railboats...the Merlin, Moa, and Ferox...all of them need an extra turret hardpoint. Not the other way around. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! byahahahahaha!11 Sig Pwnt - Immy
Hoshi Masurao	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Lord Infy Rokh should be like Moa, bonus to range and shield resists. And the slots should follow Moa. So: 6 x Turret slot 2 x Launcher slot There's no real turret caldari ship in game that would be devoted entirely to turrets so Rokh has to follow the tradition, it cannot be ALL turret ship! No. It would be completely useless with only 6 turrets, even our bumbling balance dev Tuxford realized that, so please don't start in on this one again, it makes my eyes hurt. Keep in mind that with the 250km targetting cap, and Spike L, and a Megathron's 25% damage bonus, a Mega can outdamage an 8-turret Rokh at nearly the same range. At last, someone has brought this up. Caldari Rail boats don't tend to get bonus to Hybrid damage, its usually range. With the 250km target cap and Sniperthrons hitting 220km, with a possible 25% extra damage & 37.5% extra tracking from boni, that extra turret and 30km range starts to look a little less appealing... add to that the cost of Tier 3 BS... and I'll be sticking my 425mm T2s on my MegaT for some time to come
Twilight Moon Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:48:00 - [23] I seem to remember someone saying that with blasters you can get it to hit things at 30km using Antimatter. Does that add up right? ---------------- ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative. Anyone Recruiting? 8m SP PvP Character looking for a new home, for a life as a pirate. Contact Via EVE-Mail.
Hoshi Masurao	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:52:00 - [24] Originally by: Twilight Moon I seem to remember someone saying that with blasters you can get it to hit things at 30km using Antimatter. Does that add up right? Indeed, T2 Neutrons Cannons with Null hits at 30km at almost same DPS as Antimatter at optimal. There was a thread by some guy moaning that under 10km his AC 'Pest gets shredded, and if he flies away to get outta Blaster range and into AC range, the MegaT pilot can change ammo and beat him upto 30km... he had graphs of DPS and everything
Corphus Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:24:00 - [25] iirc the rokh will be a railboat with 8 turret hardpoints 4 missle ones, 7 meds and 5 lows. 15500 pg and somert around 650 tf. the boni will be somert like 10% more optimal range per lvl and 5% to all shield resistances per lvl if i remember right...another thing im pretty sure was that the scan range was 100km making it obvious that the rokh would be a long range ship. anyway i read it back when the stats where shown on a screenie from the testserver somewhere on this forum so dont quote me on this one.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Hoshi Masurao Originally by: Twilight Moon I seem to remember someone saying that with blasters you can get it to hit things at 30km using Antimatter. Does that add up right? Indeed, T2 Neutrons Cannons with Null hits at 30km at almost same DPS as Antimatter at optimal. There was a thread by some guy moaning that under 10km his AC 'Pest gets shredded, and if he flies away to get outta Blaster range and into AC range, the MegaT pilot can change ammo and beat him upto 30km... he had graphs of DPS and everything Its old news. I think Tuxford should look into this... I mean, come on, where is the balance in having to stay 30k away from the gallente dps monsters? Sigh. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Extregar Qvint Caldari JuBa Corp	Posted - 2006.09.21 11:31:00 - [27] Originally by: Corphus 15500 pg I hope so. if this is right it is probably with skills applied. Will just barely be able to fit 8x425mm t2 and some tank with good skills. (adv weapon upgrades)
Sally Va	Posted - 2006.09.21 11:56:00 - [28] If this new Tier 3 BS is gonna be able to fit 8 425mm's, I want Ammar,Gallente and Minmatar ships to be able to fit 8 missile launchers. I can't wait for the next caldari ships that will have energy or projectile weapons bonus. The Caldari BS were already at a serious advantage being able to choose their dmg type. Now they'll have a instant dmg ship too, great, just great.... The only thing that would make me chuckle is if it had zero dronebay.
Disco Flint Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Sally Va If this new Tier 3 BS is gonna be able to fit 8 425mm's, I want Ammar,Gallente and Minmatar ships to be able to fit 8 missile launchers. I can't wait for the next caldari ships that will have energy or projectile weapons bonus. The Caldari BS were already at a serious advantage being able to choose their dmg type. Now they'll have a instant dmg ship too, great, just great.... The only thing that would make me chuckle is if it had zero dronebay. I was about to write an elaborate reply with charts and numbers and colors and everything... but all that comes to my mind is: "lol"
Ath Amon	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Disco Flint Originally by: Sally Va If this new Tier 3 BS is gonna be able to fit 8 425mm's, I want Ammar,Gallente and Minmatar ships to be able to fit 8 missile launchers. I can't wait for the next caldari ships that will have energy or projectile weapons bonus. The Caldari BS were already at a serious advantage being able to choose their dmg type. Now they'll have a instant dmg ship too, great, just great.... The only thing that would make me chuckle is if it had zero dronebay. I was about to write an elaborate reply with charts and numbers and colors and everything... but all that comes to my mind is: "lol" i actually agree with the poster, looked at charts with numbers and color and even in my opinion if stats are the same as the ones rumored, and it will be able to fit a full 425mm setup it will be quite overpowered. the problem is not really the gun damage, for example it will be do a bit less damage than a mega. but the fact that it will use 4 if not 5 less modules to do the same things that a railthorn or a pest do and on top of that it get a 25% stackable bonus to res... so these mods can be used to build a very strong tank or for ew modules this will imo make it (hands down) the best long range ships that totally outclass every other ranged ship... also as was alredy posted, these stats will make it even a very powerfull close range ship... this time it will outdamage (with guns) the blasterthorn and again with a a very strong tank and a lot of damage mods in the lows.

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