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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:44:00 -
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We gained membership for our help killing pk rats in their regions, before that we mined freely for months without incident.
See even one of you allies provided proof that there were never any problems before CFS came. HELLO CFS just start sometime last week. Look at my rating I have never been in the negatives nor have ever shot at your CFS member so there was no reason for them to shot at me.
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Dworak
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:45:00 -
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Nicci: unless you give out some proof to backup your statements, you are nothing more to me than a pirate alt char (probably one of the 2 that got killed the last 24 hours) and a forum attention*****(guess every online game has them)
Feel free to mail me ingame with names, corps, or other evidence.
Have a nice day.
Dworak
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NGRU Rix
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:48:00 -
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The burden of proof for these alleged attacks is on you and until you provide solid, irrefutible proof, you, and your opinions, are nothing more than a fart in the wind.
And I hate to add but, without the names of those targeted and or destroyed, it is not proof. As far as I can see there is no reason to believe a damn thing you are saying and it is very possible that you are an Alt of a Pirate who was whacked by the CFS Navy for being a bad, bad person.
Total proof - or shut the hell up already.
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:49:00 -
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you must be CFS mamber. How can your words be truthfull. There were no pirates in the region before they came in. I had no problem ever at all. Now I see CFS everywhere, as soon as there power grows so will their heads and then everyone freely there will be sorry fot trusting them.
Hmm... you obviously havent been playing that long. The first cruiser I ever lost was enroute from A2-V27 back to gehi (4 jumps) about a week after the game went live. TankCEO got me in a lag trap. There used to be pirate corps out in that area ALL the time. The thing is that eventually most of the crokite and bistot in the area was depleted, so most of the miner corps left the area alone, and this caused the pirate corps to leave and go to fatter pastures. Now that some mining or NPC hunting groups are moving back into the vicinity, the PC pirates are back. It has nothing to do with CFS. We are not CFS members but they have never bothered us and our main base of operations is in the middle of "CFS space". I CAN tell you though that you might want to ease off on the threats somewhat. We may not be CFS members, but we are friendly with most of our neighbors, and if push comes to shove, we have about 15 or 20 battleships and a buttload of cruisers we can commit to the fray. You might want to watch out while you are out carrying out your threats against CFS that you dont mistakenly attack the wrong corp.
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:51:00 -
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This is just a propaganda attack and nothing else. No details have been offered and nothing valuable has been said. It should probably be discarded as meaningless babble.
Btw, just because you have high sec ratings doesn't mean you are not a pirate. Plenty of podkillers have done their business in 0.0 sec and haven't gotten a sec hit for it. You CAN have good sec rating and still be a PK'er.
You will have you proof when my freelance fighter freinds destoy you miners, cans and ships without podkilling anyone. We are not trying to kill these corps but stop them from becoming another Stain.
I have givin many examples from the past, how can that not be valuable. Ask Stain, in there post as they first closed the region they never intended to close it, they said they got tired of defending players from pirates and not getting paided. Now they are power hungry and will never make it free.
If there is no CFS then there will be no chance of the region being closed in the future, especailly when Player stations come out.
Once I have gotten the list what will you do, nothing! You have no proof that your CFS fighters havn't killed any inocents.
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DarkMatters
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:53:00 -
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i am a member of the CFS navy, the only people we attack / chase down are pirates which come into the area.
i dont know whats wroung with nilli but everythink i have seen her write is lies.
we dont close of the region and have no plans to, our charter is to keep the area safe for all. if you have any douts come down and have a mine / hunt one night and u c if it is closed down yourself.
this is what i find intresting from her original post.
"Me and my unnamed corp" - clearly a coward
"Me and my unnamed corp will be striking them where they hurt. Supplies, I will kill there anchored cans out in space while there all logged off" - how she knows we keep supplies in these cans worries me
"My battleships will ambush there indies and kill there miners" - so shes a pirate (and looking to cause us trouble, maby she lost her ship to us)"
in other posts she acusses us of killing ppl, well if these ppl exsist y dont u post the screen shots of eve mail u get then with the names of the CFS members who have done this?
grr sorry for the spelling but i am mad 
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:53:00 -
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The burden of proof for these alleged attacks is on you and until you provide solid, irrefutible proof, you, and your opinions, are nothing more than a fart in the wind.
And I hate to add but, without the names of those targeted and or destroyed, it is not proof. As far as I can see there is no reason to believe a damn thing you are saying and it is very possible that you are an Alt of a Pirate who was whacked by the CFS Navy for being a bad, bad person.
Total proof - or shut the hell up already.
Same to you.
Even one of your allies provied proof that nothing was wrong with the region before you came.
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:55:00 -
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So long as you sy you are not CFS your Cans, indies, and miners are safe. CFS's Downfall is our only goal. no CFS member will lose a clone by our hands. Just supplies, ore and ships untill they leave.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:57:00 -
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This is just a propaganda attack and nothing else. No details have been offered and nothing valuable has been said. It should probably be discarded as meaningless babble.
Btw, just because you have high sec ratings doesn't mean you are not a pirate. Plenty of podkillers have done their business in 0.0 sec and haven't gotten a sec hit for it. You CAN have good sec rating and still be a PK'er.
You will have you proof when my freelance fighter freinds destoy you miners, cans and ships without podkilling anyone. We are not trying to kill these corps but stop them from becoming another Stain.
I have givin many examples from the past, how can that not be valuable. Ask Stain, in there post as they first closed the region they never intended to close it, they said they got tired of defending players from pirates and not getting paided. Now they are power hungry and will never make it free.
If there is no CFS then there will be no chance of the region being closed in the future, especailly when Player stations come out.
Once I have gotten the list what will you do, nothing! You have no proof that your CFS fighters havn't killed any inocents.
I think for about the tenth Time name the players who lost ships to the cfs unfairly and name the people who did it. It is not that hard with your super writing skills you can not take time to name some people in this tread!!!
Really this is a stupid tread and is getting nowhere fast. Would all the people using this tread to defend the CFS please just stop and ignore this tread unless she can start making sense.
The CFS is a antipirate alliance and a good group of people If a injustice was caused all people have to do is bring it up in the cfs channell.
Thank you all for listening.
" Stay Frosty "
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.24 17:57:00 -
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"You will have you proof when my freelance fighter freinds destoy you miners, cans and ships without podkilling anyone."
I didn't get that - you're going to travel down to JK-FIX and kill cans in 0.0 space? Heh, you won't live long.
Even if you do it in Khanid, you'll be consider a griefer and thus kill on sight. I'm pretty close to signing you up on my personal (yes, I'm not doing everything for the alliance...) list.
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NGRU Rix
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:03:00 -
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Well said Hicks, and I'll have a cheeseburger and a Guinness please. 
Can't seem to find your Bar and Grill, do you deliver?
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:03:00 -
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Darkmatter. Why don't you provied proof otherwise. Could it be becuase you can't. My proof will come when your pods are unharmed and your allience hindered and unable to keep up. you are the cowards for trying to coverup your maybe some mistakes but mostly diliberate attacks on my friends. I will not make my friends targets. If your Alleince goal was really to keep the region free they should of waited till pirates did come and try and hinder free miners.
For as I will point out again even one of your own allies said there were no problems or incidents for months which is far longer the you have existed.
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Logan Gallente
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:06:00 -
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I can see by your char info, Nicci, that you are clearly an alt....get stuffed...or carry on hiding behind your anonymity. Either way, the JK-FIX region will still be free to all except for PC pirates or PK'ers who attack without provocation, and those that are, will be still be hunted down...keeping talking, because that is all that it, and you, are. |
DarkMatters
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:09:00 -
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Darkmatter. Why don't you provied proof otherwise. Could it be becuase you can't. My proof will come when your pods are unharmed and your allience hindered and unable to keep up. you are the cowards for trying to coverup your maybe some mistakes but mostly diliberate attacks on my friends. I will not make my friends targets. If your Alleince goal was really to keep the region free they should of waited till pirates did come and try and hinder free miners.
For as I will point out again even one of your own allies said there were no problems or incidents for months which is far longer the you have existed.
FFS i can not prove i dont kill anyone - every time someone passes me do i get an E-mail saying "you have not attacked *****"
PUT UP OR SHUT UP - Post the sceen shots of eve mails naming CFS members as responisble!
i say again anyone is welcome to CFS space (except pirates) , come down any time
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:11:00 -
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I ask only for the help to keep this region free. I will not stand to see another Stain.
Stain said it will be free when they start. As soon as they were able they closed it.
You will have you list but not my freinds names. Even I know this will not prove anything to you and is pointless. I am at work and unable to recive the lists of your killer members. But I will give it to you anyway. If I give my friends names you will surely kill them. I already no I won't be allowed, even though have done nothing to your Allience. YOU ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE MOVED IN. TO CLAIM IT FOR YOURSELF, TO PUT YOUR NAME ON IT NOT I.
I have no reason to lie but you have every reason to.
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Nicci on 24/09/2003 18:15:10
It is pointless listening to you.
As I have said and even your own member said.
1. There were never any problems before you came into existence.
2. I have no reason to lie, you have every reason too.
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Mjolnir
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Mjolnir on 24/09/2003 18:20:32
I am speaking as a corp that does mine in those regions and is not part of the CFS. We have not had problems with them either asking for tarrifs or a toll to mine there unlike the other regional alliances, in fact when we reported there were some known pkers in the area they rushed out to try to kill them. That sounds like an organization that is trying to protect the region and still keep it open.
Nicci, you say that there were no pirate problems out in there, you may be right, but pirates dont go around scavenging for prey most of the time the campe choke points waiting for people to come and go. And this is what the pirates did that were invading before the CFS. They camped the station at Gehi as well as the startgate in A2-Y7Z or whatever that system is called. And as a corp who has been around both before and after CFS, we did have encounters with those pirates, namely from SI who we saw in a scorpion camping the A2 gate.
I'd like to consider myself neutral, and although you keep saying CFS is not out to keep the regions out there safe from pirate and greifer threats, and have secret plans to close down the region. You have yet to produce any evidence to support this statment. However CFS actions in protecting the region have proven thus far that they are holding true to their mission statment. They currently do have creditbility and you dont.
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NGRU Rix
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:18:00 -
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I ask only for the help to keep this region free.
Umm... That is what the CFS does, or have you not been reading this thread you started. You want to help now, is that it? Make up your mind already. You are giving me such a headache.
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YOU ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE MOVED IN. TO CLAIM IT FOR YOURSELF, TO PUT YOUR NAME ON IT NOT I.
Yeah, you know, I still have not heard back from that petition to get the region name changed. I don't think you would have much more luck. 'Stupid Pirate Alt Character' would be a really lame name for a region, don't you think?
How long on that Guinness anyway?
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:21:00 -
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Yeah, you know, I still have not heard back from that petition to get the region name changed. I don't think you would have much more luck. 'Stupid Pirate Alt Character' would be a really lame name for a region, don't you think?
Think as you wish. For in my eyes you are nothing but a 'Stupid Wanna Be Stain Pirate'. I wouldn't have to protect it myself because if you even listen to your own members there was never any problems before you came.
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Lagar
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lagar on 24/09/2003 18:27:18
sorry i just was starting to be anoyed 
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:24:00 -
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I'd like to consider myself neutral, and although you keep saying CFS is not out to keep the regions out there safe from pirate and greifer threats, and have secret plans to close down the region. You have yet to produce any evidence to support this statment. However CFS actions in protecting the region have proven thus far that they are holding true to their mission statment. They currently do have creditbility and you dont.
Again they have no proof otherwise as well.
And I have no reason to lie, They do.
Are you going to wait untill they are stong enought to take the region. When player stations comeout and they have blocked access as Stain has done.
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Snejbjerg
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Snejbjerg on 24/09/2003 18:30:35
I really only got one thing to say about this: you still haven't answered on the question about who your friends are (if I werenĘt a CFS member I would say: Good job on avoided the Q)
And btw, be careful you donĘt make the same error as Japan did in 41, before the Pearl Harbour incident the Japanese military was more advance than what US had, a year later the Japanese military was ancient compared to that of the US.
they did wake the sleeping dragon
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:30:00 -
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now for once i say just stop behaving so rediculus and if you have problems with that Aliance Deal with it on your own and dont bother them 
Deal with it on my own!! You clearly wish to keep your control.
Stain once said the their allience was formed to keep the region free of pirates (which there reall was).
Stain once said they had no plans of closing the region to those who weren't Pirates or PKers.
Stain once said there region was free.
Stain was once freindly and defended miners and players from pirates and PKers
Then Stain got powerfull enough to close it. With stations in the region it isn't as hard as the region CFS has taken from the free.
ARE YOU ALL GOING TO WAIT untill they have the strength to close it, untill it becomes another Stain.
Again I have no reason to lie. They have every reason too. Cause if they told the truth they won't last long.
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:31:00 -
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Nicci... Shut up.
Do you want a totally free region that mines bistot? Then enter the PKers once they find it if its not "Defended" by someone or some entity. CFS is free. I am CFS and I have seen many non-CFS travel in Khanid un bothered. They like having free access to bistot and crokite. CFS's forces do camp gates when there is a PKer in the area. That is for your protection AND ours. Stop your warmongering you disgruntled Punk.
Just Shut UP 
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Snejbjerg on 24/09/2003 18:30:35
I really only got one thing to say about this: you still haven't answered on the question about who your friends are (if I werenĘt a CFS member I would say: Good job on avoided the Q)
And btw, be careful you donĘt make the same error as Japan did in 41, before the Pearl Harbour incident the Japanese military was more advance than what US had, a year later the Japanese military was ancient compared to that of the US.
they did wake the sleeping dragon
Once I get home from work you all will get you list. But I am not stupid and will not give out the names of my friends so it is pointless.
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Mjolnir
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:34:00 -
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Yeah, but as I said their actions so far are contrary to your accusations. But taking a hypothetical approach to what you have said. If they did lock down that region, id probably be very mad to say the least, but i would find other spots. Although that will probably get harder as time goes by it still can be done. We have other spots we can mine.
I hate claiming regions as much as you do, and having talked to some people from CFS I believe they feel the same way. Although I cant be 100% sure of their future plans, just assuming the worst off the bat and not giving someone the benefit of the doubt is just an cynical outlook on it. Espically since they had acted well so far.
The point where I would start to question their motivies is if they started asking for a tax, or tolls. That is one step to being locked down completely.
As for when stations come in, I doubt with the current instabilitys in the game as of right now . That player owned stations wont be in the game anytime soon.
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Edward Preble
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:35:00 -
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I find this thread highly amusing. Someone claiming everyone should attack CFS because it "might" commit evils in the future?
You're lucky that CFS doesn't take that attitude Nicci. Despite being a rude, impatient and illogical whelp, CFS won't shoot you down unless you're part of an open pirate corp (though your claims could be construed as much) or you've committed the acts you've promised in our space, or against the members we protect.
You continually ask for proof that something hasn't happened, which is a blatant logical fallacy, since you're trying to get us to prove an absense or a negative.
Considering you have not backed up a single comment you've made, and don't appear to have a swathe of supporters who can back up your fears of the 'evils' of CFS, why don't you go visit Fountain, or Curse, and see how popular your propaganda would be there?
Edward Preble
Coalition of Free Stars
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Intruders on 24/09/2003 18:36:26
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Jarjar
Heh, you don't think we could restrict access to JK-FIX and the other 0.0 regions nearby? Wouldn't be much of a problem since there's only one system in there. 3-4 blockades in a row and you're not very likely to pass through every time.
As previously stated, "we" will not close the borders.
And as I also stated before, we also try to keep the Khanid region free - but that would be impossible to "close", try setting up a blockade in the 0.5+ systems.
Jarjar I have a question for you.
What if CFS is not what it claims it is. What if its just an SA cooperative with hidden agendas that would aim in grabing the western station less regions after Gehi in to and near the JK-FIX regions? I wouldnt be surprised since SA is on a rampage these days which for now is displayed by them trying to occupy Curse. Your presence in Khanid is placed in a strategic location that could help SA defend their routes to Empire space, Khanid and Amarr if someone tried to completely shut down SA from the rest of EVE. Anyway guarding the 0.7 0.5 systems in Khanid makes no sense to me since they re not 0.0 space, its just the routes that connect SA with the rest of EVE, the other routes outside Stain go directly in Curse which as we all know by now is hostile to SA. I would insert some OOC here and might wanted to suggest that inside tips on future coming refineries and prolly station modules somehowreached to the ears of the SA, thous they planing a strategic move, but for me suggesting smthing like this with no clues whatsoever would be plain paranoia.
Anyway SA grew to be more dangerous than TTI right now. I wouldnt be surpised for anythink I hear.
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:36:00 -
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Nicci darling what are you talking about. Hell we keep JK-Fix cleen ffs. I have been guarding around JK-Fix the last weeks, Have only seen pkers get attacked.
Nicci you are free to travel in the system, if you have never done anny member or none member (just peacefully miners) anny harm.
Its a free region but i recomand all of you guys whit bounty say when and why you are entery jk-fix.. Otherwise you can get shoot at very fast.
BTW nicci you are not a alt to Janus Drake? (he did get what he deserved today ;)
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Mindecho
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Posted - 2003.09.24 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Mindecho on 24/09/2003 18:39:00
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it is pointless.
Nicci I think you summed up this whole thread in three words. Good Job! |
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