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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.26 15:55:00 -
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Well it seemed everyone else gets to make ridiculous accusations it was my turn. No harm done except maybe a beating from my corp. CFS has done nothing but make Khanid and surrounding systems safe and bring a lot of good people together.
Porkins, only joking mate althought the offer of the 1.5mil would be nice.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.26 15:58:00 -
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As far as I know; Torath = alternate of Pychian Vanervi, a member of both CFS and O.R.E. Syndicate himself
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Torath is a known scammer - he has sold bookmarks to "hidden stations" which lead nowhere for millions, and offered modules for sale that don't exist.
So your telling me that you have a known scammer in your corp. Who can you belive.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.26 16:01:00 -
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So your telling me that you have a known scammer in your corp.
Not anymore. 
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Who can you believe.
Not sure who you can, but I can damn sure tell you two people you can't - Nicci and Torath.
Veruna Caseti
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Dworak
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Posted - 2003.09.26 16:03:00 -
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I cant see my Inbox flashing yet Nicci. Are you to busy trolling and flaming to send that mail with your evidence?
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.26 16:15:00 -
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As for everyones list. I can't... All my friends you shot up are kinda ****ed at me they don't want me using there name and stories.
They make to much money to have there in that region. Names put up for CFS to target again. They plan to save there loggs and any evidence they have for when you guys decide to close the region or when they get a screenie. They don't believe you will do anything except make up some excuse that they thought he or she was a pirate. I don't know anyone that takes sceenshots everytime they are getting attacked.
I don't see how you can say CFS doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. They came in and decided to take control over the region. Its like saying your government or your local police force doesn't have to explain any of there actions to anyone.
Eve-Marshals are the only ones I see that do protection right. They have not claimed any region for their own. They will come to anyones aid and hunt down pirates in any region. You guys are just another Stain/Fountain/Venal with everything to hide. If Eve-Marshal were to join your ranks I would lose all respect for them.
Secondly. According to the rules I have to do personnal attacks, which I don't. I keep saying words like they, them, CFS, you guys, ect.. The only reason there is any Trolling or ranting or Flaming is from you guys. Perhaps it is your intent to do so, so that this thread gets locked and knowbody figures out what you all really are.
I am allowed to make accusations and tell people what I have seen happen, just as it is your right to defend yourself. Its just that you all can't do it without name calling or flaming. Which shows how hot headed your members are and easing to anger and shoot.
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Tyr Bowman
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Posted - 2003.09.26 16:25:00 -
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I havent read the whole topic, but from what i've reaso so far CFS seem to be good people. Its not often you find alliances protecting innocent pilots as well as their own assets.
Nicci, stop being such a s**t stirrer!
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.26 16:25:00 -
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Which shows how hot headed your members are and easing to anger and shoot.
Hot headed? Angry? Shooting?
Wait, which one of us is calling for an all-out war on an otherwise peaceful regional alliance?
Ahh, that's right - it's you. I almost forgot.
Veruna Caseti
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.09.26 16:44:00 -
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You can't even admit that you(meaning members of your allience maybe not you specificly) have fired apon and killed inocent ppl. Your excuse is they probably a pirate. Your right just because somebody has a good Sec-rating it doesn't mean they are not a pirate, by the way what is your rating? But it doesn't mean everyone with a good sec-rating that you don't know or have met is a pirate either.
I don't have to answer to you. But if you want to come to a place where everyone was happy beforehand and go and tag your alliences name all over it, makes it so people like myself are intitled to answers without prosucution as a criminal.
My grounds are hard to defend without hard proof, I know this I have said it many time. But, I only protect my "so call" friends. Who now most abandon me because they make to much money mining there and are afraid you will kill them and make them targets. Freelancers don't have the power to defend themsleves agianst a power hunger group of Corps. Most won't even come to anothers aid. They say they might as well mine and make as much as they can till they close off the region. The indies they have lost and the dmg done to some have already been repeared and replaced. But for now on they will make sceenshots and if will ONLY STOP COWERING when they get there hard evidence.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.26 17:09:00 -
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You can't even admit that you(meaning members of your allience maybe not you specificly) have fired apon and killed inocent ppl.
Well Nicci, any regional alliance that claims it can fully monitor and totally control the actions of every one of its members is fooling itself - it's an impossible task. If members of CFS did fire upon players who did absolutely nothing to provoke the agressive action then they did so in violation of the alliance rules.
If I'm not mistaken these situations are dealt with by request the offender's corporation remove him from their ranks; if they refuse the corporation itself faces expulsion from CFS.
However, how can you expect that we have constant knowledge of everything every player in every corporation in CFS is doing?
Point being they are actions of players, not an indication of some large sinister motive in the works among alliance members.
A war on CFS because of the actions of individual members (if such actions have in fact ever taken place) would be like fighting Police officers because some of them are corrupt. Is this really a sane solution?
Veruna Caseti
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JGR Miko
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Posted - 2003.09.27 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: JGR Miko on 27/09/2003 11:48:16
Nicci
First of, JGR is not part of the CFS alliance but we are active in other alliances with the same purpose as CFS:
To refrain small groups of pirates taking control of areas we believe should be free for all to take advantage of. We are currently working in the Y9G defense alliance which obviously is trying to keep Y9G and the surrounding systems open for traffic.
I have no outstanding with you, your corp or CFS.
What I do have is experience with some of the other controlled areas in EVE. I believe many have. Bringing Megacyte home from outpost mining and being robbed by mercs of a corp wanting to control all ore in a region... Ive tried that and frankly didnt think it was that funny. Or Sinister hitting some of our outposts in the space they claim because they didnt want to share the Bist.
CFS - their intentions seems proper enough. Its a coalition against piracy. Lawbringers protecting the free travel and the right for everyone to use JK-FIX region.
And they have not claimed the ressources in the region. They have taken on the task of defending the region. Which seems like more than you have yourself.
There is a difference, and its striking that you cant see it!
Its not an illusion at all. What I think is an illusion is the freedom you defend. What freedom is that? Do you expect that JK-FIX will be open space forever? With or without the CFS!
That is not going to happend. Once stations gets implemented in the game every corporation who isnt capable of taking on the large alliances in north and south regions will swarm to the JK-FIX.
If CFS is still there they will of course do what they can to divide the area between themselves (I think CFS could clarify their post station launch plans a bit). That IMO is a very natural development of the game concept.
So does it mean that CFS is some bad boys with some underlying agenda? I really dont see it that way.
If we want to withstand the larger corporations, we HAVE to unite. If you for one dont see that, or just dont like it, that have nothing to do with CFS. This topic is so massive and all it really is about is your believe in being a lonely corp is the best in a biig ass universe like EVE.
Once the stations come, and they will get here sometimes soon[tm], do you think Sinister or TTI will let you mine in their easily claimed JK-FIX region???
Ok thats my thoughts here comes my suggestion!
Nicci, if you are really worried why dont you try to JOIN the CFS!
That is the only real place you will ever get any influence on CFS at all. I dont know if youve stirred up the waters too much by now, but being on the outside is a waste of time. You cant take on the CFS and I honestly believe you could benefit alot from and to the alliance by being a part of it instead!
If what your saying about CFS is true, well believe me, it would be the same without CFS in the region. Only there wouldnt be a senate you could direct your complaints to!
And if its not, which the total lack of evidence suggests, well - then let it go.
If any community greater than two people was to operate from hearsay it would become chaos to say the least.
Im from europe and people here are innocent until proved otherwise, and that goes for large corporations/alliances as well.
Not great when you are the one without proof, or you dont dare to put it forward. But it have to be that way. Or soon there will be someone claiming that YOU podded them in front of the senate. No proof, but you will be dead anyway. That wouldnt be fair i think - do you?
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Ange Noire
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:23:00 -
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1) JGR ur sig rox
2) Someone allready noticed that is troll ?
3) I love the chocolate and it's my birthday
4) CFS helped me once, they never shot at me, and i'm not in their alliance.
5) How u can buy a module who don't exist ? noone do "show info" before accept the trade ?
6) never buy bookmarks
7) for myself: stop bother everybody with your stupid number
Cya.
PS (and off topic): i love u all, Eve ppl are on average the smarter communoty i've seen on MMO since a while. (and i played a huge number of MMOs, i mean nearly every who existed)
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Blade Gunner
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Posted - 2003.09.28 04:54:00 -
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I have read the vitriol that is directed at CFS by some, and commend the defence and nuetrality of others. CFS are not an alliance of harsh words or threats, but one of civic deed to establish a free environment for those travellers that wish to trade / mine / visit the Khanid region. Pirate activity is actively repelled to the benefit of all who utilise the region. CFS dont own Khanid, but they wont allow Pirates to own it either.
Be sure to visit when you pass 
To straight talk is free, smack talk can be very expensive. the choice is of course yours
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:11:00 -
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it aint only a troll anymore.. :(
It's a boring troll also :)
- Ascendancy Inc - - Corp Fun Level . |
Terion Ceravie
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Posted - 2003.10.17 11:54:00 -
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Nicci, its correct that JK-Fix had close to no podkills at the beginning of the game, as did most places. However, as gametime proceeds more and more people move into areas like JK-Fix. The more people that use that area, the more attractive it becomes to pirates. Regardless of CFS presence and protection of Khanid and JK-Fix its obvious that as more and more freelancers and Corporations use the area, the number of podkills and unfriendly fire will increase.
I cannot understand how you fail to see that.
Its also obvious that the number of podkills in the area will increase with CFS present. This is because the pirates that podkill freelancers and non CFS corps/CFS corps will be hunted by the CFS. The number of pirates that CFS kill makes the JK-Fix region safer for freelancers and non pirate Corporations that use the area for mining and npc hunting.
I cannot understand how you fail to see that.
If you, Nicci, start to attack friendly players, miners and NPC hunters then you contribute to increasing the numbers of fatalitys in the JK-Fix region.
The CFS has no other intentions then to keep Khanid and the 0.0 regions around Khanid protected from pirates, so that friendly freelances, Corporations and CFS members can use the area in the safest possible way.
The CFS will react to any piracy in this area, whether such piracy is commited against CFS members or friendly non-CFS members.
The fact that you havent provided any proof that your friends have been targeted and killed or in any way done unjustice to by CFS forces, not even mentioned the names of the attackers, leads me to believe that you are nothing more then an alt doing unfounded propaganda. You have had yer 15 minutes of fame Nicci, it is getting old.
If by chanse you are not an alt and have been using the Khanid and JK-Fix area for your business, then I hope that you wont start to commit the piracy acts you stated you would, but go about with your business as usual. I understand that with the war going its not as easy and safe as it was, and I understand that this can be frustrating to many freelancers that have been operating in JK-Fix previous to the war.
I asure you however, that the CFS forces will do everything in their power to keep freelancers, miners and travellers as safe as possible in the areas mentioned, even with the war going.
Terion Ceravie
CFS Alliance
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voogru
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Posted - 2003.10.17 12:07:00 -
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All of you who are not CFS on this thread say so. So your cans will live throught the night.
Hint: Secure cans have 10000000+ hit points, It will take you a week to kill a single can.
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Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.10.17 12:39:00 -
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i believe it takes about 15-30 minutes with 1-2 battleships with good firepower (aka tachyons)
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.10.17 12:58:00 -
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Its the Coalition of FREE stars. Just like the Curse Coalition they keep their space free, open and safe.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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NGRU Vulture
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Posted - 2003.10.17 14:58:00 -
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hire another alliance to wipe em out.
lol I will not take one evil to kill another evil. The region should be free.
I have seen very little about them. They have kept quite hoping nobody but the ones already there would take notice of there grasp.
Gehi should be free. You are not the Emperior.
Nicci all i see that you not listen to other and only keep saying let kill, let kill, let kill as it been sad before CFS neer claim any space all it do is patroling, guarding space for rest of players who willing to mine and do bussines without afriade to be blown up by PKillers and pirates, space under CFS free for all lawfull players, miners, traders, hunters always been like this.
Diplomacy it art of saing "good dogy" until you can find a big rock. |
nails
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Posted - 2003.10.17 15:56:00 -
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CFS has done a good job keeping JK-FIX an open region. It is very difficult for them to track down pirates at time. I've run into countless solo pirates in the bottleneck of JK-FIX. Most of them have a 0.0 security rating, are the only member in their own corp etc.. It's very difficult when a bunch of support ships warp into a camped system, especially when they have not been given enough information about who destroyed them. Because of this unique situation in JK-FIX it is inevitable that innocent players get attacked by accident. In most cases this is because of lack of information after a player/indy is attacked.
I can't say too much on how they run their show since I am not part of CFS. What I see happening here are people trying to back CFS into a corner about meaningless mistakes made from time to time. If everyone keeps pushing and pushing all your going to get is CFS locking everyone out of the region accept members. I think many of you should lighten up your grip. There are many other alliances out there that do not even bother to help non alliance members that are attacked in their region (because those non members shouldn't be in the region to begin with).
Now for pirate corps they don't really need a reason to attack anyone cause they are pirates. It's up to CFS to get things organized and defend their own region from such attacks.
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James Hawkings
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Posted - 2003.10.17 16:07:00 -
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hell yeah nails.
the guy who started this thread seems like a alt that is just here to **** people off. i dont' see what peoples beef with cfs is. they've always let me move around jk-fix, and even saved my ass on more than one occasion. i wouldn't mind it if they fight more pirates cause sinister and some others have been running my buddies from their mining spots.
~Built Hauler Tough~
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Nicci
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Posted - 2003.10.17 16:25:00 -
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hell yeah nails.
the guy who started this thread seems like a alt that is just here to **** people off. i dont' see what peoples beef with cfs is. they've always let me move around jk-fix, and even saved my ass on more than one occasion. i wouldn't mind it if they fight more pirates cause sinister and some others have been running my buddies from their mining spots.
Come over and visit the Residence of Tash-Murkon and ask them if I am an alt.
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.10.17 16:40:00 -
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CFS very vigorously defends Jk-Fix and doesn't care for known pirates (positive sec. rating or not.
I like seeing a CFS BS camping a gate who offers a greeting and tip of the hat as we pass through. Much better than being fired upon.
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