| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: [one page] |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Nicci
   |
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:17:00 -
[1]
CFS has taken a free mining area and claimed it for there own. I am not sure about the rest of you but I won't let them become another Stain, or Fountain. Right now CFS is week they are having trouble keeping it. I say will strike now take down CFS before they grow stronger. Me and my unnamed corp will be striking them where they hurt. Supplies, I will kill there anchored cans out in space while there all logged off. My battleships will ambush there indies and kill there miners. CFS' grasp will not last long on this region. I will die to keep it free. But, I will insure that they die first.
All those who are with CFS beware. Don't expect to see any anchored cans out where you left them and you won't make it back to base.
|
Spawn El'Marr
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:19:00 -
[2]
ROFL!!! 
Founder and Joint CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
|
LittleFerret
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:25:00 -
[3]
Uhh CFS doesn't restrict travel through out their region, as long as you play nice and don't grief.
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:30:00 -
[4]
Haha.
Translation: I want to declare war but I'm too weak to do it on someone strong, so I will do it on CFS even though they don't restrict anyone's passage, trade, or mining in their region.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Kalhan
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:32:00 -
[5]
 Quote:
Uhh CFS doesn't restrict travel through out their region, as long as you play nice and don't grief.
A lie!! I have seen them destoy others. Who Don't have their "blessing". Don't you see this is how they will start, once they grow strong enough from all the minerals they are taking from the free miners they will close it off indefantly, and it will be anouther stain.
If my memory serves me correctly that is how stain and others started too. By saying they were open to everyone. Then they closed up when they had the power.
|
Tedia Jelsconi
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:34:00 -
[6]
CFS restrict space only to pirates, if you have heard otherwise please come to the CFS channel and give us the details.
All are welcome in Khanid and the 0.0 space to the south so long as they play nice.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:35:00 -
[7]
Quote:
Uhh CFS doesn't restrict travel through out their region, as long as you play nice and don't grief.
Quote:
Haha.
Translation: I want to declare war but I'm too weak to do it on someone strong, so I will do it on CFS even though they don't restrict anyone's passage, trade, or mining in their region.
These are both lies. I have seen they attack friends of mine who were friendly and "played nice". I say we should strike now. Join us Kalhan if you have seen it too.
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:37:00 -
[8]
The CFS does not restrict lawful players from mining anywhere at all in that region of space. The only people who are hunted by the CFS are PKers who enter the area. They do not claim that area of space as is done in the Stain and Fountain Alliances.
There are no fees to enter the area and there is no restriction on lawful players entering the area to do business.
However, you probably just made you and your entire corp a target in the area by making this post and listing Deep Core Mining, Inc under your name.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:37:00 -
[9]
Quote:
CFS restrict space only to pirates, if you have heard otherwise please come to the CFS channel and give us the details.
All are welcome in Khanid and the 0.0 space to the south so long as they play nice.
I have been to your channel, and as you strength to cover the region grow so does your members' ego.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:42:00 -
[10]
Kahlan is right this is exactly how Stain started out. They say it is open now. But as soon they grow in power they will close it.
They know that they are too week right now to control it completely, and if they make enemies now they will fail in there claim on the area.
hardly any pirates ever came to gehi and the regoin before CFS showed up. If they are coming in it is because there Allience is attracting them. THE REGION WAS FINE THE WAY IT WAS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CLAIM IT. IT IS NOT YOURS. IT IS FREE.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:46:00 -
[11]
Things were fine before they came in. They have no right to the region. I shouldn't need there permission to come in.
I have been stoped many times by there forces(because I was in a Cruiser, when in a BS they are too afraid to say anything) and so has my friends. If this allience is taken down now they won't be able to survive then it can be free again.
IT IS NOT YOURS TO CLAIM.
|
Daesdemona
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:47:00 -
[12]
hire another alliance to wipe em out.
-----------------------------------------------
Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
----------------------------------------------- |
Miso
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:47:00 -
[13]
Quote:
CFS restrict space only to pirates, if you have heard otherwise please come to the CFS channel and give us the details.
All are welcome in Khanid and the 0.0 space to the south so long as they play nice.
Who the F**k elected you lord of the manor? 
--------------------------------------------
Dead
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:47:00 -
[14]
CFS does not Claim any space as their own, I think that has been mentioned about 3 or 4 times already.
You got any information? What were their your friends' names, the name of those who killed them and what Corps were the alleged killers in?
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:47:00 -
[15]
All of you who are not CFS on this thread say so. So your cans will live throught the night.
|
Kipkruide
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:48:00 -
[16]
CFS peeps are cool , we only hunt down pirates once in a while and they always have peeps guarding the gate to the good ore from pirates so no ones indy gets blown up by grievers or the like.. Yeah NAVY i say...
If i were you i wouldn't take your grieving further then the boards because you may believe the cfs is weak, i assure you it's far from and while all the corps there have other things to do then guard cfs space all day, which is what the navy is for, if we do get attacked count me in for half a dozen bships on the defense..
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:50:00 -
[17]
Quote:
hire another alliance to wipe em out.
lol I will not take one evil to kill another evil. The region should be free.
I have seen very little about them. They have kept quite hoping nobody but the ones already there would take notice of there grasp.
Gehi should be free. You are not the Emperior.
|
Kalhan
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:52:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Kalhan on 24/09/2003 15:55:50
Quote:
CFS peeps are cool , we only hunt down pirates once in a while and they always have peeps guarding the gate to the good ore from pirates so no ones indy gets blown up by grievers or the like.. Yeah NAVY i say...
If i were you i wouldn't take your grieving further then the boards because you may believe the cfs is weak, i assure you it's far from and while all the corps there have other things to do then guard cfs space all day, which is what the navy is for, if we do get attacked count me in for half a dozen bships on the defense..
you must be CFS mamber. How can your words be truthfull. There were no pirates in the region before they came in. I had no problem ever at all. Now I see CFS everywhere, as soon as there power grows so will their heads and then everyone freely there will be sorry fot trusting them.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:55:00 -
[19]
Quote:
CFS peeps are cool , we only hunt down pirates once in a while and they always have peeps guarding the gate to the good ore from pirates so no ones indy gets blown up by grievers or the like.. Yeah NAVY i say...
If i were you i wouldn't take your grieving further then the boards because you may believe the cfs is weak, i assure you it's far from and while all the corps there have other things to do then guard cfs space all day, which is what the navy is for, if we do get attacked count me in for half a dozen bships on the defense..
Lol. This one must be a CFS member. 1. He wants the thread to go see noone else will see. 2. He makes CFS out to be bigger then they really are. Trust me they are week and spread out thin. They will fall fast if a large corp comes in and kills them.
|
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:56:00 -
[20]
Edited by: Jarjar on 24/09/2003 15:57:21
There were lots of pirates before we (CFS) became more active in Khanid, end of discussion.
Everyone that is not a pirate will be free to pass right though our (protected) space. Do exactly whatever you want to do except for pirating/griefing or suchlike.
Please note that we can NOT make sure what every single member is doing.
Also, if one of our member corps are in war, they are of course allowed to fight there (I am aware that you're in a NPC corp).
Another note; I am in no way a spokenman or so from the alliance, just another member.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:58:00 -
[21]
This is defenently Stain all over again.
|
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 15:59:00 -
[22]
Restricting people from entering EMPIRE SPACE isn't very easy, if you wasn't aware of that. There are sentry guns and even NPC police forces in khanid...
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:10:00 -
[23]
Quote:
Restricting people from entering EMPIRE SPACE isn't very easy, if you wasn't aware of that. There are sentry guns and even NPC police forces in khanid...
What the hell are you babling about. It is not khanid region you control. It is the 0.0 region below it. and as you can now see in the map before there were no pod kills down there and now there are. You must not even know what space you are trying to control. There are no sentry guns there.
The only reason you mention Khanid space is because Gehi is the closest station and there are no stations in that region of 0.0 space. If there was you would be able to occupy is much easyer.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:12:00 -
[24]
Don't expect to find your cans where you left them and your indies will not return to Gehi.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:22:00 -
[25]
My freelance group will hit you from the back. Your miners, your cans your indies.
CFS just wishes to be another Stain, TTI or Techell. Rise up and destoy them before it is too late.
|
Dworak
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:23:00 -
[26]
|
Spawn El'Marr
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:23:00 -
[27]
As I have understood the history of the Khanid and South Area
Nicci of course there were no pirats there to hunt players when you could count the players and corps down there on your 10 fingers.
When more corps and players began operating in the area also pirates was attracted there, it's hardly CFS fault.
As far as I know CFS does a ok job to keep the section pirate free and a lot of corps are able to mine and operate in the area no matter if they are part of CFS or not.
I acknowledge your conserns about CFS might seal of the section south, but before there are playerbuilt stations that won't be possible.
And considering how many corps (60+) are involved I really doubt it will be possible to keep the region closed and far from all corps will agree to close the boarders.
Founder and Joint CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
|
Unicode
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:24:00 -
[28]
Can i ask what CFS have actually done? By this i mean who have they attacked, name of party's involved? Who have they restricted mining in thier region to? Some clarity on these points would be welcome.
Because "DIE DIE DIE" is a little extreme if u just object to thier presence.
Quote of the Week:
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds."
Franklin D. Roosevelt |
Lagar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:30:00 -
[29]
hmm what you are saying make little sence to me
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:30:00 -
[30]
Quote:
Can i ask what CFS have actually done? By this i mean who have they attacked, name of party's involved? Who have they restricted mining in thier region to? Some clarity on these points would be welcome.
Because "DIE DIE DIE" is a little extreme if u just object to thier presence.
These are "60+" amall corps with a hand full of big ones. Right now they lack the abbillity to keep everyone out so untill then they say they let everyone through.
Me and some of my freelances friends have no neg rates and some have very high ones. And we are still fired apon. I am only the spokesmen I will not get to KILL these wretched CFS members cause I am targeted. I will tell you no names of my friends. You are unable to close the region now, as I know you will in the future. So you cannot stop us.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:33:00 -
[31]
I saw no reported vote by everyone there. To have this Allience say who can and cannot enter.
I wish I could of saved pash screen shots of the map on that area. There were no pods kills and hardly any ship kill even and the choke point. With that said it would be hard for some to believe me now. As it is for them to say there was always pirates.
|
Kalhan
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:35:00 -
[32]
Quote:
hmm what you are saying make little sence to me
It is simple. Before Stain Took complete control they started out just like CFS has. They were too week to close off the region. So they waited. Stain at one point was "free to everyone" as well. They kept alot of the pirates out and protected some miners. THEN THEY CLOSED THE REGION. This will be the same fate if CFS is allowed to continue to exist.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:37:00 -
[33]
Quote:
hmm what you are saying make little sence to me
Are you blind and without sense at all. how can you not get what I am saying.
|
Lagar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:38:00 -
[34]
no. they did not.. they did absolutly not close it. tho its sure that people out generaly have less liking there than those in that aliance.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:38:00 -
[35]
Quote:
Quote:
hmm what you are saying make little sence to me
It is simple. Before Stain Took complete control they started out just like CFS has. They were too week to close off the region. So they waited. Stain at one point was "free to everyone" as well. They kept alot of the pirates out and protected some miners. THEN THEY CLOSED THE REGION. This will be the same fate if CFS is allowed to continue to exist.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:41:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Nicci on 24/09/2003 16:44:14
Quote:
no. they did not.. they did absolutly not close it. tho its sure that people out generaly have less liking there than those in that aliance.
If you are speaking of Stain. Then you are completely wrong. They even mad a post on this Forum at the time saying they were closeing the region to all those who were not in the allience. What game have you been playing???
As for CFS they lack the power right now to close it off. And as the other guy said untill player stations are in, it will be almost imposible. They have to travel 4 or 5 jumps to get into the choke of the regoin.
|
Lagar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:42:00 -
[37]
EVE just not bothers with Stain.. to Stainy
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:49:00 -
[38]
It is not their region nobody gave it to them. And those who do not resist them are handing it to them.
Its should be free. Not claimed as Stain and the others are.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:53:00 -
[39]
Tell me how can CFS be trusted. Stain was trusted and look what happened.
Rise up and take out there miners, kill their anchored cans at moons and suns, and destroy there indies. But do not pod kill there members. I am not asking to there members to die just there power hungry allience.
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:56:00 -
[40]
The question has been asked at least twice already - Who Killed Your Friends? Name of the attacker? The Attacker's Corp? Show some proof of you accusations in the form of screen shots or logs.
If you can't provide these answers then you are nothing more than a troll and your 'friends' never existed in the first place.
|
Alkad Mzu
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 16:59:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Alkad Mzu on 24/09/2003 17:00:17
Tell me my friend, what do you really know about CFS?
From your posts, it's blatantly obvious that you have no idea whatsoever about the history of CFS, it's purpose or it's goals.
I'm not going to bother to fill you in, as you clearly much preferr to produce your own facts. You are repeating your mantra almost as in hoping that your lies will become truth if they're uttered enough times.
What can we do, but wish you the best of luck, and a prosperous future in the Khanid Region.
________________________________________________
Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:03:00 -
[42]
Quote:
The question has been asked at least twice already - Who Killed Your Friends? Name of the attacker? The Attacker's Corp? Show some proof of you accusations in the form of screen shots or logs.
If you can't provide these answers then you are nothing more than a troll and your 'friends' never existed in the first place.
Spoken like a true polititian. Almost all of my freinds have been shot at or there ship destroied or even pod killed at least once. Most with no warning and no reason. As soon as most come on and I speak with them you will have your list of members. But we have no sceen shots. Why don't you show some proof that you have never killed the inosent and arn't planing on closing the region once you are stronger just as Stain did.
|
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:04:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Jarjar on 24/09/2003 17:04:50
Heh, you don't think we could restrict access to JK-FIX and the other 0.0 regions nearby? Wouldn't be much of a problem since there's only one system in there. 3-4 blockades in a row and you're not very likely to pass through every time.
As previously stated, "we" will not close the borders.
And as I also stated before, we also try to keep the Khanid region free - but that would be impossible to "close", try setting up a blockade in the 0.5+ systems.
None of the above reasons why we DON'T do it, we want it to be free.
At least my corp joined for some fun, and to help people out. Not to screw everyone else.
More info of what happened, please?
Edit: You want screenshot of the alliance not killing people? I'm sure we have quite a few screenshots.
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:07:00 -
[44]
Edited by: NGRU Rix on 24/09/2003 17:08:44
The CFS does not want to control the area in the same way that the Stain alliance does in their area. The only thing the CFS does in the area is try to make it as safe as possible for people to enjoy their gaming experience without having to worry about the threat of gate/jump camping PKs.
Get the names and we can proceed from there. I am not a member of the CFS, my corp works with them to help patrol the area and keep it clear of player pirates.
I am sure this can be resolved as long as we keep the lines of communication open and civil.
Looking forward to your list of those names.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:07:00 -
[45]
Quote:
Edited by: Alkad Mzu on 24/09/2003 17:00:17
Tell me my friend, what do you really know about CFS?
From your posts, it's blatantly obvious that you have no idea whatsoever about the history of CFS, it's purpose or it's goals.
I'm not going to bother to fill you in, as you clearly much preferr to produce your own facts. You are repeating your mantra almost as in hoping that your lies will become truth if they're uttered enough times.
What can we do, but wish you the best of luck, and a prosperous future in the Khanid Region.
I do not see you denying or giving proof that it is not your goal and you won't close the region to all once it is possible for you, wiether it be when you are stronger or player stations come out. So your words mean nothing as do your threats. Is it possible I have let out your last step for all to see. The free miners in Stain did not see it coming till it was too late.
So your right don't try to fill me in because they are most likely lies.
|
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:12:00 -
[46]
Nothing is planned.
The PLAN is to keep the regions safe, and that's forever. If some corp in the alliance wants to close it, they will most likely be kicked out.
Too many corps in the alliance would say no to make this possible.
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:12:00 -
[47]
Edited by: NGRU Rix on 24/09/2003 17:13:00
I forgot - system names as well please.
And let's not forget, you are working from an assumption and based on my experience with the CFS, I have seen them rally to defend players many times.
Thanks.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:13:00 -
[48]
All 3 of you fail to give me proof of your future plans to take the region. If you wish to try then begin by keeping all pod kills gone from the map. Even your so called pirates trying to enter. Just kill there ships and kill no pods this is one way to prove your peace to some of my friends, But as for me and the ones that will go in and fight it will take alot more then that.
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO THE REGION IT IS NOT YOURS. My friends with good stands should be able to pass and miner NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
|
Logan Gallente
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:14:00 -
[49]
Quote:
Almost all of my freinds have been shot at or there ship destroied or even pod killed at least once.
So why do you continually evade the questions that have been asked before? "almost all your friends" you say...Who? I ask. Tell us the names. Or are they just imaginary, and you, just a trouble maker?
The only people that are attacked by the CFS, without question, are those that have attacked unarmed shipping in the area previously, or who are part of known pirate corporations.
It seems to me that you are just a pirate alt that is trying to fan the flames so that you can have an easier time killing unarmed traffic (as you have already stated that you will do).
Whatever. Keep talking- I bet that is all that you will do - and if you do do more, as likey as not - you will run as soon as a cruiser turns up to challenge you. |
Alkad Mzu
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:18:00 -
[50]
You know full well that we can't prove our intent to the outside world in any other way than by our actions.
This is in fact the basis of your rhetorics, you are lashing out at a monster created in your own mind, confident that the spotlight is yours, without having to watch your words for lies and exaggerations. Kudos, you got your 15 minutes.
Where did i threaten you btw?
________________________________________________
Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance |
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:18:00 -
[51]
Quote:
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO THE REGION IT IS NOT YOURS. My friends with good stands should be able to pass and miner NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
What about Stain? Fountain? Venal (not sure right now)?
Their borders ARE CLOSED. They are CLAIMING the region.
We are PROTECTING the region and the people inside it, not killing them. We don't charge you to let you live, we simply don't kill "non-pirates".
Stop evading the questions, there is no way of proving something like this anyway. 
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:22:00 -
[52]
Quote:
Edited by: NGRU Rix on 24/09/2003 17:13:00
I forgot - system names as well please.
And let's not forget, you are working from an assumption and based on my experience with the CFS, I have seen them rally to defend players many times.
Thanks.
Rally to defend their own. With your so called 60+ corps involved all out there mining it is almost hard to say your are defending everyone.
There were no pirate blocking that region, not even close to PF-346, not even in the slightest way. You are the only blockaders there now. If there was pirate there before it could of easily turned out like PF-346. Many corps and players went through the region's choke and all without problems untill you guys show up. Now look at the map there is your proof you are killing. There were no Pod kills in ther region for as long as I can remember. Those who lost there ship there lost them to NPC rats.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:26:00 -
[53]
You will get your names of our attackers, if you wish. But never ours, if I do it will surely mean there deaths I am not stupid. So you list that you want will me nothing to you and prove nothing on my side. I have no reason to lie. But you and your allience does.
|
Alkad Mzu
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:29:00 -
[54]
Quote:
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO THE REGION IT IS NOT YOURS. My friends with good stands should be able to pass and miner NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
I think this is where you err. You see, we do have the right to keep the region safe from pk'ers and pirates such as yourself. And *OH CHRIST* yes we will podkill players that attack and podkill players in the area we protect.
It is a right claimed and upheld by good old guns. You are welcome to challenge it at any time.
You seem to confuse this with a claim to the region, which in itself should speak volumes about your grasp on reality.
________________________________________________
Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance |
SavX
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:31:00 -
[55]
No one can claim space, unless they are very rich, lots of battleships and fighters. Then they have claimed space..
Don't Kill The Corp.. Kill the Suppliers. |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:32:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Nicci on 24/09/2003 17:35:22
Quote:
Quote:
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO THE REGION IT IS NOT YOURS. My friends with good stands should be able to pass and miner NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
I think this is where you err. You see, we do have the right to keep the region safe from pk'ers and pirates such as yourself. And *OH CHRIST* yes we will podkill players that attack and podkill players in the area we protect.
It is a right claimed and upheld by good old guns. You are welcome to challenge it at any time.
You seem to confuse this with a claim to the region, which in itself should speak volumes about your grasp on reality.
Maybe you think the region wasn't fine the way it was becuase you never been there before your allience desided to move there. It was safe then now you have ruined it.
non of my friends and even on the seen on the map were ever podkill there. You saying there were pirates there and you are only claiming the area to protect them is an excuse.
|
Gravedancer
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:36:00 -
[57]
Quote:
Me and my unnamed corp will be striking them where they hurt.
Um... have you looked under your character name on your posts ? Your corp is named there.
BTW, my corp is not a CFS member, though we were invited. Even though we declined, CFS has never messed with us in any of our comings or goings in Khanid region, which is our major base. Course that could be because we are one of the larger corps in Khanid and most of us are flying around in battleships or heavy cruisers, but I dont think so. As far as I have seen, CFS only messes with pirate corps or their bedfellows.
|
CyberRaver
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:39:00 -
[58]
You really are a dis-illusioned little chap arent you, CFS are the nicest most trustworthy people I have met in eve.
We gained membership for our help killing pk rats in their regions, before that we mined freely for months without incident.
If you have a problem with the CFS its because you have been very naughty in some way.
And yes do come down with your friends they wont last 5 seconds here if they are anything like you
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:40:00 -
[59]
I for one will not wait and see if you decide to close the area. All the other alliences have, you cannot prove otherwise, and you lack the power to keep everyone out right now. All attacks would have to do is wait out by the station for as your forces sit in space without a station to fall back on.
If your allience dies now. It will prevent it from ever being closed.
|
Marcus Grisbius
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:44:00 -
[60]
This is just a propaganda attack and nothing else. No details have been offered and nothing valuable has been said. It should probably be discarded as meaningless babble.
Btw, just because you have high sec ratings doesn't mean you are not a pirate. Plenty of podkillers have done their business in 0.0 sec and haven't gotten a sec hit for it. You CAN have good sec rating and still be a PK'er.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:44:00 -
[61]
Quote:
We gained membership for our help killing pk rats in their regions, before that we mined freely for months without incident.
See even one of you allies provided proof that there were never any problems before CFS came. HELLO CFS just start sometime last week. Look at my rating I have never been in the negatives nor have ever shot at your CFS member so there was no reason for them to shot at me.
|
Dworak
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:45:00 -
[62]
Nicci: unless you give out some proof to backup your statements, you are nothing more to me than a pirate alt char (probably one of the 2 that got killed the last 24 hours) and a forum attention*****(guess every online game has them)
Feel free to mail me ingame with names, corps, or other evidence.
Have a nice day.
Dworak
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:48:00 -
[63]
The burden of proof for these alleged attacks is on you and until you provide solid, irrefutible proof, you, and your opinions, are nothing more than a fart in the wind.
And I hate to add but, without the names of those targeted and or destroyed, it is not proof. As far as I can see there is no reason to believe a damn thing you are saying and it is very possible that you are an Alt of a Pirate who was whacked by the CFS Navy for being a bad, bad person.
Total proof - or shut the hell up already.
|
Gravedancer
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:49:00 -
[64]
Quote:
you must be CFS mamber. How can your words be truthfull. There were no pirates in the region before they came in. I had no problem ever at all. Now I see CFS everywhere, as soon as there power grows so will their heads and then everyone freely there will be sorry fot trusting them.
Hmm... you obviously havent been playing that long. The first cruiser I ever lost was enroute from A2-V27 back to gehi (4 jumps) about a week after the game went live. TankCEO got me in a lag trap. There used to be pirate corps out in that area ALL the time. The thing is that eventually most of the crokite and bistot in the area was depleted, so most of the miner corps left the area alone, and this caused the pirate corps to leave and go to fatter pastures. Now that some mining or NPC hunting groups are moving back into the vicinity, the PC pirates are back. It has nothing to do with CFS. We are not CFS members but they have never bothered us and our main base of operations is in the middle of "CFS space". I CAN tell you though that you might want to ease off on the threats somewhat. We may not be CFS members, but we are friendly with most of our neighbors, and if push comes to shove, we have about 15 or 20 battleships and a buttload of cruisers we can commit to the fray. You might want to watch out while you are out carrying out your threats against CFS that you dont mistakenly attack the wrong corp.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:51:00 -
[65]
Quote:
This is just a propaganda attack and nothing else. No details have been offered and nothing valuable has been said. It should probably be discarded as meaningless babble.
Btw, just because you have high sec ratings doesn't mean you are not a pirate. Plenty of podkillers have done their business in 0.0 sec and haven't gotten a sec hit for it. You CAN have good sec rating and still be a PK'er.
You will have you proof when my freelance fighter freinds destoy you miners, cans and ships without podkilling anyone. We are not trying to kill these corps but stop them from becoming another Stain.
I have givin many examples from the past, how can that not be valuable. Ask Stain, in there post as they first closed the region they never intended to close it, they said they got tired of defending players from pirates and not getting paided. Now they are power hungry and will never make it free.
If there is no CFS then there will be no chance of the region being closed in the future, especailly when Player stations come out.
Once I have gotten the list what will you do, nothing! You have no proof that your CFS fighters havn't killed any inocents.
|
DarkMatters
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:53:00 -
[66]
i am a member of the CFS navy, the only people we attack / chase down are pirates which come into the area.
i dont know whats wroung with nilli but everythink i have seen her write is lies.
we dont close of the region and have no plans to, our charter is to keep the area safe for all. if you have any douts come down and have a mine / hunt one night and u c if it is closed down yourself.
this is what i find intresting from her original post.
"Me and my unnamed corp" - clearly a coward
"Me and my unnamed corp will be striking them where they hurt. Supplies, I will kill there anchored cans out in space while there all logged off" - how she knows we keep supplies in these cans worries me
"My battleships will ambush there indies and kill there miners" - so shes a pirate (and looking to cause us trouble, maby she lost her ship to us)"
in other posts she acusses us of killing ppl, well if these ppl exsist y dont u post the screen shots of eve mail u get then with the names of the CFS members who have done this?
grr sorry for the spelling but i am mad 
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:53:00 -
[67]
Quote:
The burden of proof for these alleged attacks is on you and until you provide solid, irrefutible proof, you, and your opinions, are nothing more than a fart in the wind.
And I hate to add but, without the names of those targeted and or destroyed, it is not proof. As far as I can see there is no reason to believe a damn thing you are saying and it is very possible that you are an Alt of a Pirate who was whacked by the CFS Navy for being a bad, bad person.
Total proof - or shut the hell up already.
Same to you.
Even one of your allies provied proof that nothing was wrong with the region before you came.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:55:00 -
[68]
So long as you sy you are not CFS your Cans, indies, and miners are safe. CFS's Downfall is our only goal. no CFS member will lose a clone by our hands. Just supplies, ore and ships untill they leave.
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:57:00 -
[69]
Quote:
Quote:
This is just a propaganda attack and nothing else. No details have been offered and nothing valuable has been said. It should probably be discarded as meaningless babble.
Btw, just because you have high sec ratings doesn't mean you are not a pirate. Plenty of podkillers have done their business in 0.0 sec and haven't gotten a sec hit for it. You CAN have good sec rating and still be a PK'er.
You will have you proof when my freelance fighter freinds destoy you miners, cans and ships without podkilling anyone. We are not trying to kill these corps but stop them from becoming another Stain.
I have givin many examples from the past, how can that not be valuable. Ask Stain, in there post as they first closed the region they never intended to close it, they said they got tired of defending players from pirates and not getting paided. Now they are power hungry and will never make it free.
If there is no CFS then there will be no chance of the region being closed in the future, especailly when Player stations come out.
Once I have gotten the list what will you do, nothing! You have no proof that your CFS fighters havn't killed any inocents.
I think for about the tenth Time name the players who lost ships to the cfs unfairly and name the people who did it. It is not that hard with your super writing skills you can not take time to name some people in this tread!!!
Really this is a stupid tread and is getting nowhere fast. Would all the people using this tread to defend the CFS please just stop and ignore this tread unless she can start making sense.
The CFS is a antipirate alliance and a good group of people If a injustice was caused all people have to do is bring it up in the cfs channell.
Thank you all for listening.
" Stay Frosty "
|
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 17:57:00 -
[70]
"You will have you proof when my freelance fighter freinds destoy you miners, cans and ships without podkilling anyone."
I didn't get that - you're going to travel down to JK-FIX and kill cans in 0.0 space? Heh, you won't live long.
Even if you do it in Khanid, you'll be consider a griefer and thus kill on sight. I'm pretty close to signing you up on my personal (yes, I'm not doing everything for the alliance...) list.
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:03:00 -
[71]
Well said Hicks, and I'll have a cheeseburger and a Guinness please. 
Can't seem to find your Bar and Grill, do you deliver?
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:03:00 -
[72]
Darkmatter. Why don't you provied proof otherwise. Could it be becuase you can't. My proof will come when your pods are unharmed and your allience hindered and unable to keep up. you are the cowards for trying to coverup your maybe some mistakes but mostly diliberate attacks on my friends. I will not make my friends targets. If your Alleince goal was really to keep the region free they should of waited till pirates did come and try and hinder free miners.
For as I will point out again even one of your own allies said there were no problems or incidents for months which is far longer the you have existed.
|
Logan Gallente
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:06:00 -
[73]
I can see by your char info, Nicci, that you are clearly an alt....get stuffed...or carry on hiding behind your anonymity. Either way, the JK-FIX region will still be free to all except for PC pirates or PK'ers who attack without provocation, and those that are, will be still be hunted down...keeping talking, because that is all that it, and you, are. |
DarkMatters
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:09:00 -
[74]
Quote:
Darkmatter. Why don't you provied proof otherwise. Could it be becuase you can't. My proof will come when your pods are unharmed and your allience hindered and unable to keep up. you are the cowards for trying to coverup your maybe some mistakes but mostly diliberate attacks on my friends. I will not make my friends targets. If your Alleince goal was really to keep the region free they should of waited till pirates did come and try and hinder free miners.
For as I will point out again even one of your own allies said there were no problems or incidents for months which is far longer the you have existed.
FFS i can not prove i dont kill anyone - every time someone passes me do i get an E-mail saying "you have not attacked *****"
PUT UP OR SHUT UP - Post the sceen shots of eve mails naming CFS members as responisble!
i say again anyone is welcome to CFS space (except pirates) , come down any time
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:11:00 -
[75]
I ask only for the help to keep this region free. I will not stand to see another Stain.
Stain said it will be free when they start. As soon as they were able they closed it.
You will have you list but not my freinds names. Even I know this will not prove anything to you and is pointless. I am at work and unable to recive the lists of your killer members. But I will give it to you anyway. If I give my friends names you will surely kill them. I already no I won't be allowed, even though have done nothing to your Allience. YOU ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE MOVED IN. TO CLAIM IT FOR YOURSELF, TO PUT YOUR NAME ON IT NOT I.
I have no reason to lie but you have every reason to.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:14:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Nicci on 24/09/2003 18:15:10
It is pointless listening to you.
As I have said and even your own member said.
1. There were never any problems before you came into existence.
2. I have no reason to lie, you have every reason too.
|
Mjolnir
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:18:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Mjolnir on 24/09/2003 18:20:32
I am speaking as a corp that does mine in those regions and is not part of the CFS. We have not had problems with them either asking for tarrifs or a toll to mine there unlike the other regional alliances, in fact when we reported there were some known pkers in the area they rushed out to try to kill them. That sounds like an organization that is trying to protect the region and still keep it open.
Nicci, you say that there were no pirate problems out in there, you may be right, but pirates dont go around scavenging for prey most of the time the campe choke points waiting for people to come and go. And this is what the pirates did that were invading before the CFS. They camped the station at Gehi as well as the startgate in A2-Y7Z or whatever that system is called. And as a corp who has been around both before and after CFS, we did have encounters with those pirates, namely from SI who we saw in a scorpion camping the A2 gate.
I'd like to consider myself neutral, and although you keep saying CFS is not out to keep the regions out there safe from pirate and greifer threats, and have secret plans to close down the region. You have yet to produce any evidence to support this statment. However CFS actions in protecting the region have proven thus far that they are holding true to their mission statment. They currently do have creditbility and you dont.
Which PA character are you? |
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:18:00 -
[78]
Quote:
I ask only for the help to keep this region free.
Umm... That is what the CFS does, or have you not been reading this thread you started. You want to help now, is that it? Make up your mind already. You are giving me such a headache.
Quote:
YOU ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE MOVED IN. TO CLAIM IT FOR YOURSELF, TO PUT YOUR NAME ON IT NOT I.
Yeah, you know, I still have not heard back from that petition to get the region name changed. I don't think you would have much more luck. 'Stupid Pirate Alt Character' would be a really lame name for a region, don't you think?
How long on that Guinness anyway?
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:21:00 -
[79]
Quote:
Yeah, you know, I still have not heard back from that petition to get the region name changed. I don't think you would have much more luck. 'Stupid Pirate Alt Character' would be a really lame name for a region, don't you think?
Think as you wish. For in my eyes you are nothing but a 'Stupid Wanna Be Stain Pirate'. I wouldn't have to protect it myself because if you even listen to your own members there was never any problems before you came.
|
Lagar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:22:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Lagar on 24/09/2003 18:27:18
sorry i just was starting to be anoyed 
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:24:00 -
[81]
Quote:
I'd like to consider myself neutral, and although you keep saying CFS is not out to keep the regions out there safe from pirate and greifer threats, and have secret plans to close down the region. You have yet to produce any evidence to support this statment. However CFS actions in protecting the region have proven thus far that they are holding true to their mission statment. They currently do have creditbility and you dont.
Again they have no proof otherwise as well.
And I have no reason to lie, They do.
Are you going to wait untill they are stong enought to take the region. When player stations comeout and they have blocked access as Stain has done.
|
Snejbjerg
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:27:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Snejbjerg on 24/09/2003 18:30:35
I really only got one thing to say about this: you still haven't answered on the question about who your friends are (if I werenÆt a CFS member I would say: Good job on avoided the Q)
And btw, be careful you donÆt make the same error as Japan did in 41, before the Pearl Harbour incident the Japanese military was more advance than what US had, a year later the Japanese military was ancient compared to that of the US.
they did wake the sleeping dragon
To live, you must die |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:30:00 -
[83]
Quote:
now for once i say just stop behaving so rediculus and if you have problems with that Aliance Deal with it on your own and dont bother them 
Deal with it on my own!! You clearly wish to keep your control.
Stain once said the their allience was formed to keep the region free of pirates (which there reall was).
Stain once said they had no plans of closing the region to those who weren't Pirates or PKers.
Stain once said there region was free.
Stain was once freindly and defended miners and players from pirates and PKers
Then Stain got powerfull enough to close it. With stations in the region it isn't as hard as the region CFS has taken from the free.
ARE YOU ALL GOING TO WAIT untill they have the strength to close it, untill it becomes another Stain.
Again I have no reason to lie. They have every reason too. Cause if they told the truth they won't last long.
|
Kaylon Syi
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:31:00 -
[84]
Nicci... Shut up.
Do you want a totally free region that mines bistot? Then enter the PKers once they find it if its not "Defended" by someone or some entity. CFS is free. I am CFS and I have seen many non-CFS travel in Khanid un bothered. They like having free access to bistot and crokite. CFS's forces do camp gates when there is a PKer in the area. That is for your protection AND ours. Stop your warmongering you disgruntled Punk.
Just Shut UP
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:32:00 -
[85]
Quote:
Edited by: Snejbjerg on 24/09/2003 18:30:35
I really only got one thing to say about this: you still haven't answered on the question about who your friends are (if I werenÆt a CFS member I would say: Good job on avoided the Q)
And btw, be careful you donÆt make the same error as Japan did in 41, before the Pearl Harbour incident the Japanese military was more advance than what US had, a year later the Japanese military was ancient compared to that of the US.
they did wake the sleeping dragon
Once I get home from work you all will get you list. But I am not stupid and will not give out the names of my friends so it is pointless.
|
Mjolnir
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:34:00 -
[86]
Yeah, but as I said their actions so far are contrary to your accusations. But taking a hypothetical approach to what you have said. If they did lock down that region, id probably be very mad to say the least, but i would find other spots. Although that will probably get harder as time goes by it still can be done. We have other spots we can mine.
I hate claiming regions as much as you do, and having talked to some people from CFS I believe they feel the same way. Although I cant be 100% sure of their future plans, just assuming the worst off the bat and not giving someone the benefit of the doubt is just an cynical outlook on it. Espically since they had acted well so far.
The point where I would start to question their motivies is if they started asking for a tax, or tolls. That is one step to being locked down completely.
As for when stations come in, I doubt with the current instabilitys in the game as of right now . That player owned stations wont be in the game anytime soon.
Which PA character are you? |
Edward Preble
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:35:00 -
[87]
I find this thread highly amusing. Someone claiming everyone should attack CFS because it "might" commit evils in the future?
You're lucky that CFS doesn't take that attitude Nicci. Despite being a rude, impatient and illogical whelp, CFS won't shoot you down unless you're part of an open pirate corp (though your claims could be construed as much) or you've committed the acts you've promised in our space, or against the members we protect.
You continually ask for proof that something hasn't happened, which is a blatant logical fallacy, since you're trying to get us to prove an absense or a negative.
Considering you have not backed up a single comment you've made, and don't appear to have a swathe of supporters who can back up your fears of the 'evils' of CFS, why don't you go visit Fountain, or Curse, and see how popular your propaganda would be there?
Edward Preble
Coalition of Free Stars
|
Intruders
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:35:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Intruders on 24/09/2003 18:36:26
Quote:
Jarjar
Heh, you don't think we could restrict access to JK-FIX and the other 0.0 regions nearby? Wouldn't be much of a problem since there's only one system in there. 3-4 blockades in a row and you're not very likely to pass through every time.
As previously stated, "we" will not close the borders.
And as I also stated before, we also try to keep the Khanid region free - but that would be impossible to "close", try setting up a blockade in the 0.5+ systems.
Jarjar I have a question for you.
What if CFS is not what it claims it is. What if its just an SA cooperative with hidden agendas that would aim in grabing the western station less regions after Gehi in to and near the JK-FIX regions? I wouldnt be surprised since SA is on a rampage these days which for now is displayed by them trying to occupy Curse. Your presence in Khanid is placed in a strategic location that could help SA defend their routes to Empire space, Khanid and Amarr if someone tried to completely shut down SA from the rest of EVE. Anyway guarding the 0.7 0.5 systems in Khanid makes no sense to me since they re not 0.0 space, its just the routes that connect SA with the rest of EVE, the other routes outside Stain go directly in Curse which as we all know by now is hostile to SA. I would insert some OOC here and might wanted to suggest that inside tips on future coming refineries and prolly station modules somehowreached to the ears of the SA, thous they planing a strategic move, but for me suggesting smthing like this with no clues whatsoever would be plain paranoia.
Anyway SA grew to be more dangerous than TTI right now. I wouldnt be surpised for anythink I hear.
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
My sig sux |
Mindlles
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:36:00 -
[89]
Nicci darling what are you talking about. Hell we keep JK-Fix cleen ffs. I have been guarding around JK-Fix the last weeks, Have only seen pkers get attacked.
Nicci you are free to travel in the system, if you have never done anny member or none member (just peacefully miners) anny harm.
Its a free region but i recomand all of you guys whit bounty say when and why you are entery jk-fix.. Otherwise you can get shoot at very fast.
BTW nicci you are not a alt to Janus Drake? (he did get what he deserved today ;)
|
Mindecho
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:37:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Mindecho on 24/09/2003 18:39:00
Quote:
it is pointless.
Nicci I think you summed up this whole thread in three words. Good Job! |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:40:00 -
[91]
Quote:
Nicci... Shut up.
Do you want a totally free region that mines bistot? Then enter the PKers once they find it if its not "Defended" by someone or some entity. CFS is free. I am CFS and I have seen many non-CFS travel in Khanid un bothered. They like having free access to bistot and crokite. CFS's forces do camp gates when there is a PKer in the area. That is for your protection AND ours. Stop your warmongering you disgruntled Punk.
Just Shut UP
Kaylon - keep your forked tungue behind your teeth.
Listen to your own members There was never any pirate problems. I was down there for months never saw a pirate in Gehi, or in the region below. There were too many BSs escorting indies there and if there was 1 or 2 they couldn't of lasted long. I always watched the map and never saw any problems.
And why the hell do you keep mentioning khanid. You couldn't control that region if you combined with SA, CA and Venal. it is empire space. I am talking about non-empire space. You know.... 0.0 space. where all the rare ore is... and the choke point is right below Gehi.
If there is bistot in Khanid Space plz share it with me, For I have never myself seen anything rarer the Hed and Hem in Empire space.
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:42:00 -
[92]
Quote:
What if its just an SA cooperative with hidden agendas that would aim in grabing the western station less regions after Gehi in to and near the JK-FIX regions?
Haha, what is this, conspiracy theory? If you're really that concerned, make an alt and join CFS - you will find that it is indeed what it says it is.
Nicci is a monkey in a clown's suit if she think she is doing anyone a favor by starting agressions with us.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Snejbjerg
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:44:00 -
[93]
Quote:
Quote:
Uhh CFS doesn't restrict travel through out their region, as long as you play nice and don't grief.
Quote:
Haha.
Translation: I want to declare war but I'm too weak to do it on someone strong, so I will do it on CFS even though they don't restrict anyone's passage, trade, or mining in their region.
These are both lies. I have seen they attack friends of mine who were friendly and "played nice". I say we should strike now. Join us Kalhan if you have seen it too.
Of course it your claim is right and some member of CFS did kill innocent people then we will be forced to take some disciplinary action towards the persons responsible.
And were I come from putting words or sentences into ôö indicate you are being ironic
To live, you must die |
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:44:00 -
[94]
Quote:
And why the hell do you keep mentioning khanid.
Because that is where CFS is based, defending it and the regions beyond from any incursion or pirate activity.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:46:00 -
[95]
Intruders: Hmm.
I think the members would eventually know that if that was the case, no?
|
Intruders
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:47:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Intruders on 24/09/2003 18:50:49
Veruna Caseti and to which alliance might the O.R.E. Syndicate which you are a member be looking to or belong to?
I just want to have a clear view of the politics invlolved in here.
edit: Veruna this might sound liek conspiracy theory, you right but If I was SA I would try to allie or create another alliance guarding me, wouldnt want public oppinion to think im starting to stretch way over my limits now and upset everyone.
Jarjar, I dont understand, what members?
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
My sig sux |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:47:00 -
[97]
Once the freelancers and other non-alligned memebers open there eyes; Me and my freinds will get supports.
They must learn from there mistake of letting SA ever exist for so long.
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:51:00 -
[98]
O.R.E. Syndicate is a member of CFS, but there are no politics involved here; the whole idea behind CFS is to prevent what has happened elsewhere in 0.0 regions from happening in regions bordering Khanid.
The goal of the alliance to keep the space beyond Khanid free of pirates who could shut it down to free mining, exploration and trade.
Nicci's ideals are totally ridiculous - if it's SA or VA she opposes, why not go to war with them? Instead she wants to make war with CFS because one day we "might be somehwat like" SA or VA?
What a joke. You are a total joke Nicci and so is this "war." I hope you drag your corp into the dumpster with this unfounded bull****.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:53:00 -
[99]
Nicci; You won't be able to annihilate the CFS if that is your goal. 'Nuff said.
I don't see why you'd like to either, if you are friendly.
|
Weyoun
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:54:00 -
[100]
CFS Does not claim space.
CFS does not fires only at PC-pirates,
This thread is probably an ettempt to get war on CFS. Nicci is probably an alt of a PC pirate that was destroyed by CFS forces.
People who are interested in truth should listen to independent new reporters or talk to people that come from that region.
Proof that Nicci is lying: he is not a member of Deep Core Mining Inc.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:55:00 -
[101]
Some may think what do they have to gain, losing there own ships and responding to calls for help agienst the pirates that they mostlikely have attracted. Answer: false hope that they are really who they say they are. They will get poeple who say they are realy good. So that they may last untill they have gained enough power.
Why else would they not ask for pay or toll. All they have to keep telling themselves is "Just protect everyone till we are ready, then it will all be worth it".
If there are pirate there now they have brought them. Perhaps to have someone to defend the region against.
|
Intruders
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:56:00 -
[102]
OOC:explaining myself
Why I made all this fuss asking questions?
Might be thinking of moving to another game and I wanted to check the political future of things, It might be a trent starting that every large alliance re allies with another one and etc. creating a huge carebear universe, in that case EVE will suck for me. Noo PvP in EVE=no fun.
That was the reason. take care.
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
My sig sux |
Zarwi
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:56:00 -
[103]
This sounds like a case of "Alliance Envy" to me!
Nicci stfu and lighten up. Jesus all your ****ing on this thread has done nothing but make you look like a whiney, carebear, jealous becasue your not in the Alliance, baby!
Sheesh what a moron!
Oh and I am NOT in the CFS Alliance or any for that fact.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 18:59:00 -
[104]
Quote:
O.R.E. Syndicate is a member of CFS, but there are no politics involved here; the whole idea behind CFS is to prevent what has happened elsewhere in 0.0 regions from happening in regions bordering Khanid.
The goal of the alliance to keep the space beyond Khanid free of pirates who could shut it down to free mining, exploration and trade.
Nicci's ideals are totally ridiculous - if it's SA or VA she opposes, why not go to war with them? Instead she wants to make war with CFS because one day we "might be somehwat like" SA or VA?
What a joke. You are a total joke Nicci and so is this "war." I hope you drag your corp into the dumpster with this unfounded bull****.
You sound just like Stain did once apon a time.
I have no reason to lie. None of you knew me untill now. You have every reason to lie. In order to keep your hold on the region and makes its dwellers believe they are safe.
|
Jarjar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:01:00 -
[105]
I'll give up until I see a real argument (which is very unlikely to happen at all).
|
Lagar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:05:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Lagar on 24/09/2003 19:05:56
|
Pitwebb
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:05:00 -
[107]
Quote:
You sound just like Stain did once apon a time.
I have no reason to lie. None of you knew me untill now. You have every reason to lie. In order to keep your hold on the region and makes its dwellers believe they are safe.
As a new observer to this, Nicci has yet to provide any amount of proof to her (more likely his) argument against CFS. Until s/he actually does, it's all just hot air.
What I've heard of CFS is that they protect that region of space against scumball pirates & pk'ers. Blah, blah.. stain did it too... blah, blah. Just hot air Nicci. Give us some proof.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:08:00 -
[108]
Quote:
I'll give up until I see a real argument (which is very unlikely to happen at all).
You give up because even I know you cannot provide Proof that what I say is not true. Just as I can't (except for the list or members who shot or killed my friends) provide proof that you aren't another Stain until it is too late.
You can look far back into threads and see I have existed for a long time. Peacfully in that region. Now CFS wants it for there own.
May you can find the thread on "tungue twisters".
|
Darkargar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:09:00 -
[109]
I have always tried to be neutral tho i am in CFS. i dont know much on their plan or their rules but what i can tell you is that they have NEVER botherd me ever and we are geting along just fine.
Tho right now with this post i think you might have angerd them more than when some thought you as indruders. and what makes you say that it even was CFS? there might have been some local pirates that thought the same
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:10:00 -
[110]
Quote:
Quote:
You sound just like Stain did once apon a time.
I have no reason to lie. None of you knew me untill now. You have every reason to lie. In order to keep your hold on the region and makes its dwellers believe they are safe.
As a new observer to this, Nicci has yet to provide any amount of proof to her (more likely his) argument against CFS. Until s/he actually does, it's all just hot air.
What I've heard of CFS is that they protect that region of space against scumball pirates & pk'ers. Blah, blah.. stain did it too... blah, blah. Just hot air Nicci. Give us some proof.
If I had proof that it has happened then they would of started closing it already. Why not ask them for proof that they will never close it.
|
XARiUS
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:10:00 -
[111]
Edited by: XARiUS on 24/09/2003 19:11:02
Quote:
You have every reason to lie. In order to keep your hold on the region and makes its dwellers believe they are safe.
Lies? Do you think we could even remotely get every corp which is a member of the Alliance to tell the SAME lie?
CFS does not OWN or even IMPLY ownership of Khanid or JK-FIX. Space cannot be owned, only blockaded and guarded to restrict travel. The CFS does no such thing. I personally have participated in pirate hunts, and I have yet to see any other large organization of players willingly sacrafice their own ships and time to help keep the region(s) free of unprovoked hostile actions.
If this alliance were to turn into something similar to VA or SA, I do believe you would see a very large falling out of the CFS membership, as this is not what we want.
I'm afraid your attempt to make us into something we're not has failed.
XARiUS
CEO
O.R.E. Syndicate
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:13:00 -
[112]
What tangled webs we weave!!!!
Grow up nicci.....Janus!!!! listen we know it's probably janus alt here thats sore because 2 cfs battleships destroyed his scorp!!! it's strange janus died at about 15.00 hours today and this tread started after that coincidence?
I have nothing more to say on this matter.
" Stay Frosty "
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:15:00 -
[113]
Quote:
If this alliance were to turn into something similar to VA or SA, I do believe you would see a very large falling out of the CFS membership, as this is not what we want.
Some of the small corps that wouldn't go alone with plans on taking control may drop or get kicked out like the ones in Stain that were too small to be members.
Has anyone learned from the past?
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:16:00 -
[114]
Quote:
What tangled webs we weave!!!!
Grow up nicci.....Janus!!!! listen we know it's probably janus alt here thats sore because 2 cfs battleships destroyed his scorp!!! it's strange janus died at about 15.00 hours today and this tread started after that coincidence?
I have nothing more to say on this matter.
You couldn't be more wrong. In fact I may have to dig up some of my old threads to embarrass you.
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:18:00 -
[115]
Take your best shot baby!!!
But sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me!!
" Stay Frosty "
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:19:00 -
[116]
I do have an alt. It is not Nicci. Some of you may know him. He was fun for awhile. I know JarJar knows him.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:21:00 -
[117]
Quote:
Take your best shot baby!!!
But sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me!!
I think you mean words not names.
Words can hurt if you lie to your members and to the miners who want the region free.
|
XARiUS
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:21:00 -
[118]
Edited by: XARiUS on 24/09/2003 19:22:30
Quote:
Some of the small corps that wouldn't go alone with plans on taking control may drop or get kicked out like the ones in Stain that were too small to be members.
Has anyone learned from the past?
So what you're saying is, based on past history, everyone should just give up and not even try, because it's doomed to fail no matter what, right?
Get a grip. Our Alliance is solid and has a great foundation and core membership. If things change, they change.
However, until such time the only right you have to pre-judge us is your unfactual opinion. After all, opinion's are like a**holes, everyone has one right? Except in your case, you seem to feel yours is large enough to inhale a large scordite planetoid.
Find something more constructive to whine about.
XARiUS
CEO
O.R.E. Syndicate
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:24:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Nicci on 24/09/2003 19:29:26
I am not pre-judging some of you members actions allready hold true. And the fact that the region was already free to begin with, your movment inward to claim, take controll of to make free is already a step towards my logic.
Secondly I have stood my ground, tried to keep my compsition and slandered your methods and reasoning, but I haven't been in anyway ignorant and slanderous to you directly, I may have come close. But I have not crossed the line you have.
You seem to feel the need to lashout and call me names in the hopes of drawing others with you.
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:29:00 -
[120]
Just because you can dig up old posts means nothing. This character could have been around for a while.
There is no way to prove anything that had not happened yet. There is; however, the ability to prove what happened in the past. What you are asking for is proof that teh CFS will not turn into a VA or SA Alliance type thing. Well, words are cheap. and actions speak volumes.
The CFS has, from day 1 been about keeping the area OPEN to ALL PLAYERS who are NOT PIRATES. This is the whole reason for the CFS. The actions of the CFS have proven that time and time again. You have proven nothing but your own stupidity in this thread (which may very well be the fastest growing thread I have ever seen).
You have every reason to lie, deceive, contort and make up **** in a vain attempt to make what you consider to be a reality seem true.
You know, Batman didn't create the Joker, the Joker created Batman.
|
scorchio
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:30:00 -
[121]
a step towards your logic? run that by me again...... prehaps the term logic has a different meaning in your dictionary than mine.
|
Edward Preble
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:34:00 -
[122]
Actually Nicci, (though I'm not really talking to you, since you have a tendency to ignore any questions or comments directed towards you) the region was very unstable. As has been repeatedly mentioned, pirate activity was much more rampant in JK-FIX and around Gehi.
Although mining has been one factor to change the situation, I've recieved many compliments on how Gehi no longer represents the "wild west". As such, there is a reason for CFS to exist.
Really, if we want to talk conspiracy theories--there's someone desperately trying to attack the credibility and integrity of one of the larger "Free space" territories. Someone who wants to make war on the people trying to keep Khanid free and safe?
I'd say Nicci is far more likely to be the stooge of someone moving into the territory than vice versa. And unfortunately, we've given him much more attention than his comments deserve.
Edward Preble
Coalition of Free Stars
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:36:00 -
[123]
Quote:
The CFS has, from day 1 been about keeping the area OPEN to ALL PLAYERS who are NOT PIRATES. This is the whole reason for the CFS. The actions of the CFS have proven that time and time again. You have proven nothing but your own stupidity in this thread (which may very well be the fastest growing thread I have ever seen).
Of course you can say that you havn't been around very long. And lack the ablility to move forward with closing it at the moment. That is not proof it is false advertising.
You ever notice that the cigerettes will kill you in the future but never have the ingrediants on the package. Because if they did nobody would buy there products.
|
Shimrod
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:38:00 -
[124]
So, Nicci. Are you home from work yet? Everyone here is waiting with baited breath for the list of members that killed your friends. I wonder was I one of those on the list?
And just one quick point of logic for you. It is not possible to prove a negative. How can CFS prove that they will never do something? You are the only person posting here that has proof of anyone's wrongdoings.
We're still waiting....
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:43:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Nicci on 24/09/2003 19:46:15
Quote:
Really, if we want to talk conspiracy theories--there's someone desperately trying to attack the credibility and integrity of one of the larger "Free space" territories. Someone who wants to make war on the people trying to keep Khanid free and safe?
I'd say Nicci is far more likely to be the stooge of someone moving into the territory than vice versa. And unfortunately, we've given him much more attention than his comments deserve.
That is truly far fetched. Just look at my corp. It tooks weeks of raising my faction with them to get the ability to join this NPC corp. Which is not a newb corp. I truely am a freelancer. I have no corp hangers or alliences, just friendly relations with other freelancers like myself and freelancer corps.
The fact that you look to draw attention onto me and off of yourselves is an attempt only to make yourselves look better.
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:45:00 -
[126]
Quote:
So, Nicci. Are you home from work yet? Everyone here is waiting with baited breath for the list of members that killed your friends. I wonder was I one of those on the list?
And just one quick point of logic for you. It is not possible to prove a negative. How can CFS prove that they will never do something? You are the only person posting here that has proof of anyone's wrongdoings.
We're still waiting....
I have 20 more minutes and a 30 minute drive home. Be patient. my friends don't post because they know better. Even if it means nobody comes to post in my aid.
|
Galk
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:51:00 -
[127]
There's nothing wrong with the CFS.
A group of ex cas and cas members were meeting up for a reunion mining op on sunday. One of are guys was destroyed on route to us in cfs space, they did us a favour by dispatching several battleships to chase them off.
Call them all the names you want, there allright in my book
------------------------
----
Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/ |
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 19:53:00 -
[128]
Quote:
That is not proof it is false advertising.
Um no, false advertising would be doing the exact opposite of what we say we do. We don't do that so there, nyah, nyah. It would be like Coke advertising that it will make you grow 3 feet overnight when we all know it won't.
As for the smokes:
Umm, I don't know from what country you hail but, in the USA, there is a warning on the smokes that tell you all kinds of bad things that can happen if you smoke em. in Canada, they tell you, flat out, Cigs will kill you.
So keep it coming, this is funnier than anything else on the baords ATM. Thanks for helping the day pass by so smoothly for me.
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:02:00 -
[129]
I think Nicci is a Techell alt just trying to draw attention away from the backlash caused by their "Your Soul and Firstborn for Miners" program.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Kalhan
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:03:00 -
[130]
Quote:
I think Nicci is a Techell alt just trying to draw attention away from the backlash caused by their "Your Soul and Firstborn for Miners" program.
Lol that is funny. I wish, I was, I would be rich.
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:05:00 -
[131]
Edited by: corporal hicks on 24/09/2003 20:09:39
Edited by: corporal hicks on 24/09/2003 20:05:19
Quote:
Quote:
That is not proof it is false advertising.
Um no, false advertising would be doing the exact opposite of what we say we do. We don't do that so there, nyah, nyah. It would be like Coke advertising that it will make you grow 3 feet overnight when we all know it won't.
As for the smokes:
Umm, I don't know from what country you hail but, in the USA, there is a warning on the smokes that tell you all kinds of bad things that can happen if you smoke em. in Canada, they tell you, flat out, Cigs will kill you.
So keep it coming, this is funnier than anything else on the baords ATM. Thanks for helping the day pass by so smoothly for me.
What smokes are bad?? ...puff..puff..puff!!!!
BTW 2 pints of the black stuff brewed in James gate and a side fries on the way Rix.
" Stay Frosty "
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:08:00 -
[132]
Quote:
I think Nicci is a Techell alt just trying to draw attention away from the backlash caused by their "Your Soul and Firstborn for Miners" program.
Much as that is kind of funny I don't even think techell would stoop to such low tactics and also as regards my dealings with them they don't seem to employ morons
" Stay Frosty "
|
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:18:00 -
[133]
"Tell me how can CFS be trusted. Stain was trusted and look what happened."
Nicci, I could care less who you are or who CFS is or what their motivations are. The fact is they have guaranteed this space will remain open for all to travel there. I routinely travel in that area and I've never been fired on nor have I heard of anyone else being fired on. If you were indeed attacked perhaps you'd be so kind as to give us the names and corporations of those involved? I doubt you will because your making this all up as you go. Claiming because someone was dishonest (Stain) everyone will be is nothing but flaming and trying to start a war with nice people who just want to play the game in peace. Khanid is open space for all honest people who want to go there. I have also been attacked in the area there by PC pirates and the CFS Navy did respond to help me (they got away). They are honorable and good people and your lies with no substantiation or fact are insulting to the intelligence of everyone who reads these boards. Thank you.
(FYI - I'm not in CFS nor any other alliance but I travel all over in trade and have NEVER had a problem with these people).
|
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:21:00 -
[134]
"Kahlan is right this is exactly how Stain started out. They say it is open now. But as soon they grow in power they will close it.
They know that they are too week right now to control it completely, and if they make enemies now they will fail in there claim on the area."
Nicci how do you know that? Psychic implants?
|
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:24:00 -
[135]
"Lol. This one must be a CFS member. 1. He wants the thread to go see noone else will see. 2. He makes CFS out to be bigger then they really are. Trust me they are week and spread out thin. They will fall fast if a large corp comes in and kills them."
Nicci, Your real motivation shows through. Your just one of these griefing bored kids who starts flame wars (and ingame ones) for fun. You also need to realize Khanid is "free" to all so why in the hell would anyone (big corp?) want to attack them? I mean give me a factual reason other then some lies you made up and some podkills on a map (with no names I would add). Your pathetic if you think any of us believe anything you say. Perhaps logging onto your main character and not hiding behind a lame alt from DCM noob corp would be a good start? Thank you.
|
Syphin
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:24:00 -
[136]
I have read all the posts and just want to point out something about the SA is the future of CFS.
Nicci compare CFS to SA several times. And from what i comprehend you say the CFS will just sit and wait and help people until it gets enough power and then take a region over.
But using that logic any group of players wanting to help others will take over space at some point. So if someone comes to the aid of another who is being attacked by pirates is just waiting until he is strong and can then go and take over a solar system? Correct? CFS is helping people out so anyone else helping must be wanting to take over space aswell.
Maybe you just want CFS out so you can take over space. You seem to want to kick out CFS to help everyone. So since your helping people that must mean you want all the regions for yourself.
I'M ON TO YOU NICCI. You are just waiting and pretending your just doing a good thing and then you will take over the region.
Come to think of it I saw a boy scout help an old woman across the street. He must be out there to gain trust and help people until he is strong enough to take over the street corner. He'll put up his own traffic lights and have people pay tolls if they want to cross.
I'd love to continue but i must go and stop this from happening. I won't let anyone take over the street corner. STREET CORNER MUST BE FREE FOR ALL!!! I WILL HELP EVERYONE BY PREVENTING THE STREET CORNER FROM BEING TAKEN OVER BY HELPFUL BOY SCOUTS!!!
- - - - - - -
Disclaimer
I take no responsibility for the spelling or grammar usage in the above statement Nor do i agree with its ideas and or claims Or even acknowledge its existance. |
Mrissa Easeah
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:25:00 -
[137]
*wishes she were home to do the research herself*
Someone mentioned here, Nicci's not part of Deep Core Mining Inc. Can someone get a fix on who she -is- with? She won't tell us who CFS allegedly killed. Can someone track down her connections, find out who she's really working for? Guessing that its Janus isn't enough, and could be a fatal error if we don't have our wits about us when whoever she -is- working for decides to move, if ever.
In a way, she's doing us a big favor with these threats. A heads up, even if its mostly a mudslinging PR campaign, that someone 'wants' to get us.
She kept mentioning 'unnamed corp' and freelancers, which is funny since Freelancer's Alliance (Kinda a 'no pressure' just-don't-be-a-jerk NoCorp corp) is a member of CFS, -and- helps to chase off the pirate incursions of the protected territories.
|
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:32:00 -
[138]
"I do not see you denying or giving proof that it is not your goal and you won't close the region to all once it is possible for you, wiether it be when you are stronger or player stations come out."
Your the one making the accusation. Its up to you to prove it. CFS is a peaceful group of people who were sick off all the BS other places and came to Khanid to have some fun. I deal with CFS members all the time and they are carebears who like to have a good time. The thought they would turn out like Stain is comical to say the least.
|
Sihlovian
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:38:00 -
[139]
Nicci just very much reminds me of the troll we had in our chat named 'celtic hammer', polluting the chat with propaganda much like your doing here. And, also seemed to have a fixation for the SA. Coincidence, mebbee...Perhaps. But that's another conspiricy theory altogether.
Truth is Nicci, you have to provide the proof, not the CFS. But since you'll probably just retort with one of your non-commital answers, with baseless accusations, no evidence will be provided. Most likely due to the fact that you have none. For if there were, most would be eager to show it, not hide it. It would seem it is you who is hiding something and not the CFS.
CFS doesn't have to prove anything to you. The CFS has already proved to the lawful people that work out of the Khanid/JK-FIX regions, that its intentions are true. (And spare me the mention of stain, or are you not capable of providing another example.) I think that you'll find that any of the corps that lawfully work out of the area will agree.
Nuff said... create another 'troll-alt' so you at least have someone to seemingly support your wild imagination here in the forums. 
CEO - IMGCorp
Coalition of Free Stars
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:44:00 -
[140]
Quote:
What smokes are bad?? ...puff..puff..puff!!!!
Liar.
Thanks for the pints bro, they will be put to good use! Don't forget the catsup, er, ketchup.
And I say we go get that Boyscout! Bastard! Turning good deeds on a free corner just to try to help people out, what the hell is that all about? He must be planning a hostile take over of 5th and Duh! He's gonna corner the market on corners!
|
Kaylon Syi
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:46:00 -
[141]
Quote:
Quote:
Nicci... Shut up.
Do you want a totally free region that mines bistot? Then enter the PKers once they find it if its not "Defended" by someone or some entity. CFS is free. I am CFS and I have seen many non-CFS travel in Khanid un bothered. They like having free access to bistot and crokite. CFS's forces do camp gates when there is a PKer in the area. That is for your protection AND ours. Stop your warmongering you disgruntled Punk.
Just Shut UP
Kaylon - keep your forked tungue behind your teeth.
Listen to your own members There was never any pirate problems. I was down there for months never saw a pirate in Gehi, or in the region below. There were too many BSs escorting indies there and if there was 1 or 2 they couldn't of lasted long. I always watched the map and never saw any problems.
And why the hell do you keep mentioning khanid. You couldn't control that region if you combined with SA, CA and Venal. it is empire space. I am talking about non-empire space. You know.... 0.0 space. where all the rare ore is... and the choke point is right below Gehi.
If there is bistot in Khanid Space plz share it with me, For I have never myself seen anything rarer the Hed and Hem in Empire space.
First of all ... the only fork i have is the one that will serve you your own words if we meet open space. Second... Khanid - epecially gehi - leads to free crokite mining for anyone who can survive the NPCs. You obviously are trying to undermine my statements by trying to falsify my logic. You just sound like someone who was shot down for doing something past, or present. If you want to make war... make war with those who don't help others. hmmm m0o for isntance. Or better yet.. are you a Fountain Alliance member's alt and just want to put the heat on CFS instead of getting your arses handed. Pirating is a part of the game... but so is defending the stars against pirates. Deal with it or leave.
|
Deathbecomes
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 20:49:00 -
[142]
If the CFS is so committed to keeping pirates out of the Kahnid (sp?) region, then why haven't they declared war on these groups? If anything, all I see are a bunch of corps who disorganized, and lack the true courage to do what they claim they are doing. Further I think Nicco(sp?) has a very valid point. So I challenge the CFS to back up their claims, commit to your stated objectives, and do so by proclaiming war.
crap, or get off the pot.... |
Mrissa Easeah
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:01:00 -
[143]
CFS doesn't declare war on anyone except those who make trouble in the area they protect.
IE, they won't bite off more than they can chew, and won't bother exceeding the purpose of their formation. Its 60+ corps, very loosely aligned with each other. AFAIK there's no single voice for CFS, no 'president' or leader. No massive group votes affecting all member corporations or anything like that. It keeps its goals, its purpose simple, and there's really no room for the kind of Imperialism that's being talked about in this thread.
Declaring a group war against other factions outside of CFS's protected area -would- be an imperialist act. I don't think it'd go over very well, if it could go over at all.
|
NGRU Rix
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:01:00 -
[144]
Edited by: NGRU Rix on 24/09/2003 21:03:10
Would all the pirates in EVE plase join the same corp and call yourselves PIRATE CORP so that war can be declared on you all at the same time? Thank you ever so much for your understanding.
Please flush when you are done cuz you stinky.
|
XARiUS
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:02:00 -
[145]
Quote:
If the CFS is so committed to keeping pirates out of the Kahnid (sp?) region, then why haven't they declared war on these groups? If anything, all I see are a bunch of corps who disorganized, and lack the true courage to do what they claim they are doing. Further I think Nicco(sp?) has a very valid point. So I challenge the CFS to back up their claims, commit to your stated objectives, and do so by proclaiming war.
The CFS does not go out of it's way, or it's own region(s) to hunt down pirates. We're not proclaiming to be the defenders of EVE, merely defenders of Khanid. Those who are known pirates (merc or corp) are on the CFS KOS list.
Going out of our way to stir up trouble and create war is not what the CFS is about.
Plain and simple, it's about protecting the region in an attempt to make it as safe as possible for those who reside there, or travel through it.
I don't see how you can speak of courage, since you've never participated in the CFS, or any of it's patrol's. Everyone I've worked with is willing to offer up anything and everything they can muster.
XARiUS
CEO
O.R.E. Syndicate
|
Kipkruide
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:11:00 -
[146]
Hey only kudos to the navy from me,
got my indy shot out from under me a week or 2 ago down near yf- by npc's and on the way back to gehi i got 4 offers from the navy to hunt down and kill whoever killed my ship.. hehe they probably went down and killed the npc pirates... and i wasn't even in the cfs yet.
keep up the good work...
|
Deathbecomes
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:14:00 -
[147]
Quote:
If the CFS is so committed to keeping pirates out of the Kahnid (sp?) region, then why haven't they declared war on these groups?
This simply means, if you have pirates in your .0 spaces, and can't keep them from entering your .5+ spaces (due to empire law), then your not keeping with your annouced objectives. Obviously we have to assume you know who is currently pirating in your area, so then, why has not the CFS proclaimed war against these groups?
If your not willing to do this, then I can't see how ur are really an alliance. Because an alliance has clear objectives, it has consul, and it typically holds a democratic system within it. Perhaps, as stated by one of your members, you are just too big (60+), and disorgainzed (loosely formed) to be called an alliance. Perhaps you should use the term "group", or "gang".
I think you'll find that your acceptence from other parties will be easier this way. |
Gravedancer
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:18:00 -
[148]
Quote:
HELLO CFS just start sometime last week. Look at my rating I have never been in the negatives nor have ever shot at your CFS member so there was no reason for them to shot at me.
Um.. Back away from the ***** pipe... SLOWLY.
CFS has been around for a good month or 2. You may have only heard about them in the last week, but those of us who have been in the Khanid region or adjoining 0.0 space have known of the CFS alliance for some time. And as for your security rating... someone else already pointed out that you can be a PKer and still have high security rating so long as you are carefull to do it only in 0.0 space.
Until I have conclusive proof otherwise, you get the troll of the week award.
|
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:21:00 -
[149]
"But as for me and the ones that will go in and fight it will take alot more then that."
Nicci this is the same old tired bullsxxt people have been using since the game started to justify PK stuff. Your obviously nothing but a griefer who decided to attack people who really just want to have fun. You made up a "reason" to do it and are trying to rally public support. The truth is the CFS I know as a trader is honest and good and I think everyone in EVE knows that. Theyve kept this area of space free for all to travel in and said they will in the future.
If you plan on going in there and start randomly killing people for no reason your nothing but a PK griefer yourself and really have no business trying to appear honest at all. I think everyone here recognizes you for what you are. An alt of some PK griefer corp who is bored and wants to get their kicks killing more defensless targets belonging to people who are having fun being peaceful. Your beyond pathetic and I hope everyone else sees it too. Thank you.
|
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:29:00 -
[150]
"You will have you proof when my freelance fighter freinds destoy you miners, cans and ships without podkilling anyone. We are not trying to kill these corps but stop them from becoming another Stain."
Sorry I just have to laugh here.
Nicci is providing no proof, refuses to provide any proof, indicates shes going to PK grief innocent people in Khanid and is waging a Jihad type campaign because of her psychotic fears CFS will turn miraculously into Stain someday (more then likely just her excuse so she can do some PK griefing).
 Main Entry: psyÀchotÀic
Pronunciation: sI-'kõ-tik
Function: adjective
Date: circa 1890
: of, relating to, marked by, or affected with psychosis <a psychotic patient> <psychotic behavior>
|
Mindecho
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:37:00 -
[151]
The next thing I can see Nicci saying is that the CFS has Weapons of Mass Destruction . Hehe sorry couldn't help it....
|
Bas Rutten
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:41:00 -
[152]
Thank you Nicci for giving me the laugh of the week. What a pathetic attempt to ruin our credibility, even without the guts to use your main character or answer directly to questions like: WHO IN THE HELL ARE THE GUYS YOU CONTINOUSLY SAY GOT SHOT DOWN BY US?
Verble/m0o = correct
Tassedar/M3G4 = correct
Janus Drake = correct
Dread Lord = correct
to name just a few, the last two being two known pkers in Khanid.
Now give us the goddamn names of your "friends" we killed or stfu.
CFS has never and will NEVER EVER lock down Khanid/JK-FIX or any other region for anyone except pirates, so your trolling just makes me believe you are some pking dude's alt, no more, no less.
Oh yah, and 63 corps don't form an alliance within a week, Nicci. We are talking about ~1500 players here ... it took us way over two months to get where we are now ... and applications are still taken.
And now go get a life.
____________________________________
Deny the Urge - brutal Death from Germoney
|
Gan Howorth
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:45:00 -
[153]
Kalhan:
Quote:
Quote:
I think Nicci is a Techell alt just trying to draw attention away from the backlash caused by their "Your Soul and Firstborn for Miners" program.
Lol that is funny. I wish, I was, I would be rich.
Um, does that mean that its your alt then Kalhan?
|
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 21:51:00 -
[154]
Deathbecomes they do have a Navy but mostly theyre just different corps having fun. I've been thinking of applying for membership but havent yet. They try to protect all the space but be honest for a second and acknowledge most of the PK griefer pirate stuff is done when defensive ships are not around. You really cant defend anyone but the person right next to you when it all comes down to it. Pirates use middle of space bookmarks and logoffs and all kinds of other "tricks" to avoid real combat. PK griefing is just a lame tactic by lame people. A tactic that Nicci appearently intends to use on CFS ships?
As for you Deathbecomes I'm amazed the only two voices we've heard even suspecting CFS of anything were from corp-less alts. I guess that says alot right there now doesnt it?
|
Morphious
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:04:00 -
[155]
Man I find this totaly halarious Nicci Im a member of CFS, Im proud to be a member of an alliance that is focused on keeping space free, if you dont like it then im really sorry for you, like I said Im CFS soo come get me if you want
|
Deathbecomes
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:11:00 -
[156]
Quote:
Deathbecomes they do have a Navy but mostly theyre just different corps having fun. I've been thinking of applying for membership but havent yet. They try to protect all the space but be honest for a second and acknowledge most of the PK griefer pirate stuff is done when defensive ships are not around. You really cant defend anyone but the person right next to you when it all comes down to it. Pirates use middle of space bookmarks and logoffs and all kinds of other "tricks" to avoid real combat. PK griefing is just a lame tactic by lame people. A tactic that Nicci appearently intends to use on CFS ships?
As for you Deathbecomes I'm amazed the only two voices we've heard even suspecting CFS of anything were from corp-less alts. I guess that says alot right there now doesnt it?
Just what are trying to say here? People that aren't in a corp aren't real? I am proud that I don't need a corp to play this game, and just because I am not in one should not have any reflection upon my posts. Also I am assuming you don't quite get my previous post...(as your post did not even approch its topic)
|
Joshua Calvert
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:12:00 -
[157]
How, exactly, do CFS define a "pirate"?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Arathmon
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:14:00 -
[158]
Quote:
How, exactly, do CFS define a "pirate"?
Yeah, I personally think of myself as more of a serial killer...
---------------
I used to be in the FA. I like cookies. Eve Radio is teh pwn. |
High Priestess
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:18:00 -
[159]
"Just what are trying to say here? People that aren't in a corp aren't real? I am proud that I don't need a corp to play this game, and just because I am not in one should not have any reflection upon my posts. Also I am assuming you don't quite get my previous post...(as your post did not even approch its topic)"
What Im saying is it sure is "funny" all this criticism comes from people who arent affiliated with anything. There is a way to prove your not an alt though. Fly into empire space (1.0 where its safe) in a battleship and show us you have months worth of skills for this character. Then maybe I'll believe your not an alt for some PK griefing troublemaker. As for Nicci shes clearly an alt and Im sure tomorrow she'll still be planning on posting names yet not doing it. Thank you.
|
Sphalerite
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:20:00 -
[160]
Quote:
This simply means, if you have pirates in your .0 spaces, and can't keep them from entering your .5+ spaces (due to empire law), then your not keeping with your annouced objectives. Obviously we have to assume you know who is currently pirating in your area, so then, why has not the CFS proclaimed war against these groups?
3 war slots, and many more than 3 pirate corps around. If someone is causing trouble in systems .4 and lower, we'll deal with them and absorb the sec hit. Only problem you can really have above .4 is ore thieves, who aren't really in the same class as pirates, but if they are a big enough problem, can be dealt with.
Quote:
If your not willing to do this, then I can't see how ur are really an alliance. Because an alliance has clear objectives, it has consul, and it typically holds a democratic system within it. Perhaps, as stated by one of your members, you are just too big (60+), and disorgainzed (loosely formed) to be called an alliance. Perhaps you should use the term "group", or "gang".
I think you'll find that your acceptence from other parties will be easier this way.
We use Coalition instead of alliance, and yes, we are different than the regional alliances. If you'd care to peruse our forumsyou should be able to confirm that we are run democratically, and we do have a very clear stated purpose, namely, to keep Khanid and the attached regions free.
I won't bother responding to the topic starter.... anyone who has had any contact with us knows what we are about.
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:28:00 -
[161]
Edited by: corporal hicks on 24/09/2003 22:30:38
Quote:
How, exactly, do CFS define a "pirate"?
CfS defines a pirate as any player who attacks another player for no reason whatsoever and in most cases CFS does not have to define a pirate they do it themselves.
The majority of pirates that CFS deal with are nothing but griefers in battleships that destroy industrial ships at jump gates in the fix region. As a matter of fact the only pirates I have seen that showed any amount of guts and bravery have been the mercenary frigates corp.
Now days the pirates skill tree has changed instead of gate camping and smack talking 5, they have run to planet 5 loggoff 5 and destroy indy without asking for anything in return 5.
The definition of piracy is to steal and plunder why do these so called pirates not ask for isk from the indys why do they just attack without provocation...and since the last patch they don't even pod the indies pilots because they are afraid to take the sec hit.
I am not a carebear but I have seen so many pirates in fix recently that the word carebear is more suited to them. i have seenh the CFS navy pilots in frigates and cruisers chasing around pirates who were in battleships and the pirates were running to planets and logging.
Now a question for you joshua, Define a pirate? In my opinion the people I deal with here are not pirates they are terrorists.
" Stay Frosty "
|
JINX HSC
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:34:00 -
[162]
I have a simple view on this topic:
If i was at my local boozer with my friends having a nice time, and some ****heads like u and ur friends walked in and started being *****s ( which u obviously are )
Me and my friends would walk over to u and serve u up.
But if some out of town bisinessmen types walked in, and had a few beers whilst they talked shop, we wouldn't have any need to pay any attention to them.
simple as that, u prolly came down here, acted a *****, we gave u and ur mates a bloody nose and now u want revenge, but ur too pathetic to do it urselves, so u gotta go fetch some big boys to fight for u....
If u were every in prison - u would be their *****.
|
Deathbecomes
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:41:00 -
[163]
Well said Sphalerite!
Thank you for your insightfulness, and correction about your group (alliance vs coalition)
p.s.
see, priestess all ya had to do was answer the question... |
Rase
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:53:00 -
[164]
I will say that I have a couple concerns about CFS regardless of Nicci's motivation
1) One is that despite the massive flame content of this thread (which I read through all of it) there is an undeniable paralell to the path of Cfs that mimics Stain very closely.
2) The devs at CCP made the goal of EVE to be total domination. That is the goal of the developers. it just is. Even though everyone loves to hate curse, fountain, stain, etc
They are simply playing the game as intended...starting to dominate and claim space
Just like has happened on earth over time...land gets claimed and you have to pay to enter and enjoy the national resources...like a passport/visa etc....if you come "illegal" you get booted.
So my point is for this item that CFS's 'noble' endeaver is completely contradictory to the goals of the game in the first place....which means CFS has a major design flaw inherent and when it does begin to break apart because it violates the principals of the game designers...there will be som desperate and powerful oppurtunists in CFS that will make thier move...i mean what have they got lose at that point?
3) Im not a pirate/griefer/or carebear and yes this is my main Character. I guess I also have something against handouts or calling mom or dad to bail me out. I have nothing against the members of CFS aside from maybe the lack of seeing the long term impacts of my 2nd point.
My corp is about to join CFS because we can "mine bistot and be protected by a carebear alliance", but it does give me a funny feeling.
With 1500 players...why not go an overthrow one of the the other main geo-alliances? If they form again then overthrow them again....wouldnt that result in much more space realestate being available to more players?
Again, im just saying that sort of carebear alliance method would be more trustworthy....given it is not limited to one particular region and does not require a constant commitment....
But still it would violate the goals of the game developers.
Devs? care to comment?
|
LittleFerret
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:54:00 -
[165]
Edited by: LittleFerret on 24/09/2003 22:56:05
Edited by: LittleFerret on 24/09/2003 22:55:15
Edited by: LittleFerret on 24/09/2003 22:54:49
Everyone, just STOP reply'ing to Nicci's warmongering posts. This is EXACTLY what she is wanting to do. Simply put, ignore her. That will hurt her the most.
And to Nicci, a closing word.
CFS has to PROVE NOTHING to you. There is NOTHING to prove. You have NOT accused them of anything yet.
You claim they killed your friends?
Who were your friends? Why aren't they coming forward? Who are the pilots who did the killing? Why won't you name them at least?
So far you have made no real accusation, except spout inflamatory statements designed to provoke flames.
So far NO ONE has come forward said THIS SPECIFIC MEMBER of CFS has commited a crime.
NO ONE.
Not even you.
Oh and btw, I'm quite hoping you will come out to khanid and gehi and try to kill the cans and indies with your l33t buddies in their l33t battleships. We've defended the region against bigger fish then you. It's been a while since the last opportunity to face down some pirates, I'm sure the CFS Navy will enjoy it.
And to everyone else,
STOP FEEDING NICCI'S FLAMEWAR!
|
Ulendar
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 22:59:00 -
[166]
LOL, another funny thread then :p
I like this, funny stuff to read before bedtime, always cheers me up.
CFS Goals: To keep Khanid and its neighbour 0.0 regions safe of pirates and pk's. This entangles destroying or podding any known pirates to date and adding any people who 'turn' pirate to our KOS list. Some get podded other dont. This has to do with being a repeated violator or empirial law or not.
Those are the goals of the CFS...ALL of them. If you dont read something there then that means its simply not a goal of the CFS.
You may notice there is no mention of closing down or claiming khanid (wich isnt possible anyways) that basically means that we have no intention of doing this :p
Its not there so that means its not a goal..get it? Witty aint it...
Nicci: so basically what you are saying is you will come down to khanid and 0.0 regions to shoot our ore cans, kill our indies and any miner who is part of the CFS.
To keep it sort your just going to come down to khanid and pirate your ass off :p
and to justify all this you use:
- There was never any pirates in khanid before CFS
- There was never any podkills in Khanid before CFS
Well those reasons are actually airtight excuses for going around and griefing people now arent they. You are clearly a model citizen for your grand feeling of freedom and piece.
Well what can i say...
I'm not a CFS member yet, but i will apply for membership, although i do have many friends in CFS and il be more then happy to fight by their side against obvious malicious people like you. So basically if you come to Khanid and start offing CFs indies and miners im just gonna have to burn a hole in your ugly head with my tachyon
Now go run your mouth somewhere else before someone steps on you
ps: you are the biggest attention***** i have ever seen...im in awe!
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
|
j0sephine
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:01:00 -
[167]
"CfS defines a pirate as any player who attacks another player for no reason whatsoever and in most cases CFS does not have to define a pirate they do it themselves."
... Hmm... so, to clarify, as long as someone attacks another person for a reason --that being desire to rob them blind, have fun, improve PvP skills, carry out a mission, have revenge, etc-- they are not a pirate in the eyes of CfS, and as such free to do what they want to do?.. :s
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:02:00 -
[168]
Yeah i have to agree can we get a click here please?
" Stay Frosty "
|
Rase
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:04:00 -
[169]
I would be interested in a response to the thread I posted a few up from this one....rather than the same old ones ive read for 9 pages...
|
Jozi
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:12:00 -
[170]
Are you with Discount Furniture?
pickles and the crew.... Nikki from discount furniture corp?
If so I would like to learn more of your plans...
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:23:00 -
[171]
Quote:
I would be interested in a response to the thread I posted a few up from this one....rather than the same old ones ive read for 9 pages...
Rase.
I do understand your concerns but the CFS coalition is not another stain/old venal or fountain alliance anyone can enter the space which the CFS patrol anyone can mine and hunt NPCs.
The navy will protect people in the area and it's members will help each other and anyone else in the area when needed. If people want to see the level of co-operation in the area all they have to do is come to the area. The only people weho the CFS navy will stop or kill are known pirates that have bounties on there heads or are known to hide behind there sec rating and are pirates.
I have seen 1 indy destroyed by a pirate and 10 mins later enough battleships assembled from corps in the CFS and not in the CFS ready to hunt down the pirate. I have seen the navy sit with peoples cargos in space after there indy was destroyed by player rats and npc rats while the player got another indy 15 jumps away to come down and collect it.
To say CFS will be a big alliance that stops people from entering there space is crap. We will not restrict people unless they are Known pirates that is it.
I hope Rase soon as your corp is joining us you will see first hand the level of co-operation in the region from all players.
You can not put a price on the feeling of respect I have sat a gate for hours waiting for pirates to have about 50+people per day just saying thx guys for been there in local going by.
We are just a large group of players who are trying to make something special in a world of closed alliances. As regards other alliances I have seen ships from all the major players in the eve universe in the khanid/fix area you name it MASS/RUS/EV/EVOLUTION the NVA/STAIN/FOUNTAIN ECT aliances and the CFS will protect and help anyone that is not a pirate in the area.
Hope this helps show our position.
" Stay Frosty "
|
Sphalerite
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:26:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Sphalerite on 24/09/2003 23:28:25
Quote:
1) One is that despite the massive flame content of this thread (which I read through all of it) there is an undeniable paralell to the path of Cfs that mimics Stain very closely.
I won't pretend to know much about how stain started off, but I do know that aside from the founding corps, most every corp that has joined, did so after hanging out with us and catching on that we really do want to keep space free. If some of us have sinister plans that are hidden from the rest of the coalition, I can tell you which way the fight would go once someone made a move. and which side I'd be on. You're free to be as suspicious as you like, but I'm not planning on changing, and neither is anyone else I've talked to.
Quote:
2) The devs at CCP made the goal of EVE to be total domination.
No. There is no win condition in EVE. There is no goal and there is no endpoint. Your goals are what you make them. Mine are to play the cop and help everyone I can and fight the dastardly pirates. Did I miss the part of the rulebook telling me I should want to rule the universe?
Quote:
So my point is for this item that CFS's 'noble' endeaver is completely contradictory to the goals of the game in the first place - snip - i mean what have they got lose at that point?
What if the goal of CFS is to create a noble endevour? We lose everything we have created if we go back on our principles.
Quote:
3) Im not a pirate/griefer/or carebear and yes this is my main Character. I guess I also have something against handouts or calling mom or dad to bail me out. I have nothing against the members of CFS aside from maybe the lack of seeing the long term impacts of my 2nd point.
My corp is about to join CFS because we can "mine bistot and be protected by a carebear alliance", but it does give me a funny feeling.
ultimately then, you don't get the idea behind CFS. We'll still help you if you ask for it, but you're free to not ask.
Quote:
With 1500 players...why not go an overthrow one of the the other main geo-alliances? If they form again then overthrow them again....wouldnt that result in much more space realestate being available to more players?
We aren't the universal morality police and we don't start wars with random people for jollies. 4 regions is a ton of space, and once deployables come into their own, we'll have more than enough work defending them.
Edit: grammar
|
Rase
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:28:00 -
[173]
Hicks, I understand the position of CFS and thier goals. I have read it 30 tims in the last 9 pages...the reply that I was interested in was about the game goals as CCP devs made it.
And why not use this alliance strength to over throw other geo-alliances if you decide that it doesnt matter that CFS's position/goals completely contradict the very intention of eve in the first place? Please read the long post on page 9 of this thread for more details...expecially point 2) and on
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:32:00 -
[174]
Edited by: corporal hicks on 24/09/2003 23:34:05
Well soon as our friend nicci has not bothered displaying her evidence of CFS killing innocents ect we should just forget this.
Thank you to all the supporters of the CFS who rallied to our support in this tread.
Sorry one last thing to Rase sorry man if I am not the best speaker for the coalition I try my best I think spha explained it better than I could.
" Stay Frosty "
|
Sphalerite
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:38:00 -
[175]
At this point hicks, its pretty obvious to everyone that Nicci is either some rat's alt or just someone that likes to stir up trouble. This thread is still as good a place as any to clear up some misconceptions, though
|
corporal hicks
|
Posted - 2003.09.24 23:54:00 -
[176]
Yep me agrees me go back to polishing guns on the sulako and staying Frosty. Then take of and nuke the pirates before they run and log it's the only way to be sure.
" Stay Frosty "
|
DigitalCommunist
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 00:00:00 -
[177]
From the couple of posts and replies I read, I see that some corp has a problem with CFS either with their philosophies or actions, so I'll just share what little I know from my experiences.
It's not Khandid they protect, but rather JK-FIX that is right below it. Gehi is the main system (nearest station) for JK-FIX and it just so happens to be next to the choke point for JK-FIX as well (also in Khandid I think). So it's no surprise that many corps out mining base their operations from Gehi IX station (or was it XI?)
I've been there twice, once was before the CFS was formed. There were a lot of people in battleships in the area, everyone was really friendly to each other, but there WERE pirates occationally coming to Gehi since it is a heavily trafficed system.
Second time was a month or so later. Went down to hunt some rats and look for specific loot. No change here, except many CFS people were guarding gates to and from the popular hunting/mining systems. I mistakenly saw an arma at the gate and assumed he was friendly since many there were, without checking info first. Just so happens he was neg SS and took a few pot shots at me before jumping through.
A few systems back en route I recieved a warning from 3 separate people. It contained a short list of sighted pkers, I told one of them where I saw the arma at.. they thanked me, and an hour informed me he was "neutralized".
I also got a 2 bs escort back to gehi for repairs after my thorax was shot up to 1% structure by npcs (my first juggie, heh). Whilst docked, tekforce from m0o showed up and docked. I was worried, but then within 10 minutes 60 people showed up in local.
I undocked to use my repair modules and saw 20 bships camping station, and after repairs i packed my things to leave.. another 15 at the gate. Tekforce played possum for a looong while.
Those are all my experiences with CFS so far, and I can totally understand their situation. There is a similar "coalition" in cloud ring that hunts down pkers and in syndicate/solitude.
_____________________________________
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
"Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
NGRU Storm
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 02:08:00 -
[178]
I've seen my share of inane vociferous tripe posted on these forums, but Nicci really steals the show on this one folks. My stomach is STILL hurting and my eyes STILL filled with tears from ludicrous "whine and moan, ***** and groan" rant she spewed. CFS another Stain? Stain is the future of CFS? Check your undies honey, the stain you're ranting about is there and not in EVE space. Odds on that anyone?
Deep Core Mining Inc., eh? Honey I don't have a clue what you like mining most but I can tell you that from my side of the world, your ship's hold smells just like that stuff you're full of (and for those of you that can't see what I'm getting at here, the word I'm playing at is "****"). Nicci's rant has truly proven to be one of the most perfect examples of buttnuggetry that I've seen since this game went live! ROFLMFA0! Who lit the fuse on your tampon, eh? Who made peepee in your Wheaties, eh?
Nicci you've already voiced a clear threat to CFS. I'm a CFS supporter and I've seen NONE of what you're claiming to have happened. What I have seen is a group of individual gamers (regardless of Corporate affiliation) who've had their fill of griefers, PKers, pirates, gate camping toll ****s and ore thieving pukes. Every individual that supports CFS that can lend a weapon does so to hunt down the various gaming scum that take much pleasure in causing another gamer problems (regardless of the nature of said problem).
I promise ya this darling Nicci -- grief me, the NGRU, or the Member/Allies of CFS and I'll personally collect your corpse and keep in in my freezer. And on those lonely warp/jump sojourns through EVE space I'll pop your frozen carcass into the microwave and let my entire battleship's compliment of Amarrian Ni-Kunni staff take turns putting you into compromising positions that I'll post screenshots of on EVE's version of CNN (whatever that turns out to be)....
Keep the Faith,
NGRU Storm
Commanding Officer/Founder
Clan NGRU Gamers Association -- Worlds for the TakingÖ
http://www.clan-ngru.com
|
Ends
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 02:25:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Ends on 25/09/2003 02:30:05
Edited by: Ends on 25/09/2003 02:27:15
Edited by: Ends on 25/09/2003 02:26:40
Hello, I am Senator Ends of the CFS. There is some concern here about the future and purpose of the CFS. Currently we have two laws that have passed that have some pertenence in this disucussion. They are a little wordy so I'll put it in the simplest way I can.
The CFS fights to keep Khanid to RI6S open to all lawful players to fight, mine and travel in.
The first law I'll post here was written by me about 5ish weeks ago and passed unanimously by the senate about 3 weeks ago. It describes our intent for our area in very clear terms. I would remind the readers that this is our LAW.It's called the "Free Space Bill
This bill proposes that no entity be allowed to close off any portion space under the CFS control to mining or travel or NPC hunting. Any entity that chooses to try to control and exclude others from any section of space in Khanid or the three regions to the south shall be given the opportunity to cease hostilites and make reparations before they are destroyed.
The CFS exists to keep our space free safe and lawful for all, looking to the near future it will be possible to control space through deployables. It is nesisary to have a very clear idea about this, that we intend to keep space open for all. If someone wants to take over any portion of our space and not share its mining and traveling privildges with all lawful players then they are an enemy of the CFS. This bill in no way addresses mulitiple station building in one system, and that issue can be addressed later. The main point is that no matter what everyone in our region remains free to travel, fight npcs and mine in peace anywhere CFS has influnce.
This is our law for determining who is KOS. This is a genral guidline and others may be KOSed for crimes in the area without low sec. status. This one passed about the time that the other did, and it was written on the behalf of the president by me as well. It's called the Auto K.O.S. Bill.
This bill declairs that;
1. All travelers not in the CFS alliance with a negative 2 to neg 10 security rating or 500k bounty or greater be considered KOS without formal listing.
2. If the offending person has committed no crimes in the CFS sphere of influnce they shall be contacted and afforded the opportunity to vacate the area.
3. If the person would like an expemption from the KOS list for whatever reason It must be approved by the president or a majority vote of the senate.
4. Any person who repairs their security rating and gets rid of their bounty without commiting crimes in the CFS sphere of influence shall be removed from the KOS list.
And finally, We require no one to join us. There is another alliance in the area called the finall alliance, and they grew strong without even having to say "Hi" to the CFS. Any lawful player is welcome here.
Our vision is to become the most densly populated area of deep space, our bistot will run dry but our economy will be the most powerful in the galaxy for 0.0 space. It is a good place to live.
thank you for your time, I hope this will give you some idea of what the CFS is about. Just Carebears with a murderous streak for people who enjoy hurting others. Also don't underestimate our will to fight for our home, most of our corps have been pushed out of other regions and have no other place to go. Fighting 1500 members committed to keeping their home is a tough war for anyone.
Senator Ends.
|
Kozak
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 03:03:00 -
[180]
Nicci is so dumb.
"Don't let another software company start up, that's how Microsoft started..."
What is wrong with you? I've been in the Khanid region for over a month. We mined in the 0.0 space without any problems, passed through many 'camped' gates by the Navy and had no trouble. After chatting in the CFS channel we like what they stand for and how they are structured. We still see many corps who are not in the CFS well into the fix region mining. I always shoot down gate rats to help ANY indy through.
|
Teister
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 03:06:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Teister on 25/09/2003 03:13:10
Edited by: Teister on 25/09/2003 03:12:04
Several interesting items have been brought up in this thread started by Nicci. As President of the Coalition of Free Stars, I shall address them.
Does the CFS Alliance claim the jk-fix and the other two unclaimed regions "below" Khanid for our own?
No. As stated on our forums, website, and our EVE anouncement, we do not. Not sure how this can be more clear. Maybe we should arrange secure cannisters like the XFI sign and write "We are not a regional claming Alliance" in space. Indeed, our Senate has recently passed the "Free Space" bill, so that CFS will not, nor in the future, claim Khanid and the unclaimed regions for ourselves.
To Quote "Nicci" in response to a statement that we leave players who are not pirates alone: "A lie!! I have seen them destoy others. Who Don't have their "blessing"
First, you do not NEED our blessing to enter or leave Khanid or the unclaimed regions next to Khanid unless you are a pirate. Second, to my knowledge, the only time our Coalition forces have EVER done anything to be considered hostile against a non pirate was when an new CFS Black Bird pilot, impatient to tryout his EW skills, locked and scramble/stasis a peaceful non-CFS player. I warned that CFS member if that ever happened again, they were out, and then I wrote a an apology to other players corp CEO. This was about a month and a half ago. So, until you provide names, places, dates, and the such, your accusations are without substance of any fact.
How do we define a pirate?
Members of known pirate corps. Players who, on these boards, state that they are pirates. Players who attack other players in our area of interests, without just cause (Concord or EVE board proclaimed war) are by their actions, pirates. Players who are cargo / corporations thiefs are also in special cases included on our KOS list too. Lastly, unknown players may be attacked based upon their bounty/security rating, as per our KOS bill recently passed by our Senate.
Rase was wondering about ties between CFS and other alliances, namely SA.
There are no ties between CFS and SA. We do not even have a NAP with them, and in the unclaimed regions of Catch, there have been some shots exchanged recently, nor has that incident and another eairler one been settled. The problem with SA is that they do not take responseability for their member actions outside of the Stain region and some members (only few at least)use the SA as a shield for their pirating actions. Such players are, in my opinion, lowest of the low. CFS will not, nor ever, tolorate such actions and will hunt those players agressively within our area of interests.
As for other ties, we may have a military partner who may now be a member of the CA, and if so, will probably have to be removed due to conflict of interests if the CA includes known pirate corporations. Still waiting for some offical membership list about the CA before taking action.
To quote "Nicci" "I say will strike now take down CFS before they grow stronger"
Sorry "Nicci", but with 72 corporations now members or going through the Senate approval process to become members, we are already strong. Estimated active membership (As opposed to about 1800 memembership count per corp descriptions) of CFS is well over 700+ players. Not all are in the Khanid region, for membership of CFS only requires a presense in Khanid. Because of our open policies, we also have the goodwill of many non member corporations, as some have already stated in this thread. Nor does this include Khanid region military partners. So "Nicci" you are more than welcome to come and "Free" this already free space. Indeed, aside for some insults in the local channel, those are only shots which CFS will take at you, at least until you try to hurl more than ignorant claims at CFS.
In closing, for I belive I have addressed all the major topics in this thread. I would like to thank those many non-CFS players who have defended our good name, as well as those who are CFS members too.
I would also like to thank "Nicci" for the free publicity about CFS. We do now blow our horn too much, and as President, I discourage smacktalk about when we have a pirate kill. We have grown at a fast pace without much publicity in EVE. Organization issues are our biggest concerns, but we have learned from the mistakes from the now shattered Venal Alliance, and will not have those mistakes happen here. If anyone has any questions are concerns, please feel free to EVE mail me, post on our public fourms, or converse me if not.
Teister
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
www.cfs-eve.org
|
Mustard
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 03:40:00 -
[182]
I life CFS. They helped me avoid a nasty loss of a ship to a PKing pirate. They took the initiative to protect me and other innocent miners. If you don't like them, try to hunt them but I really stand behind what they do. I have a positive security rating so I have nothing to worry about.
Mustard
|
Kashre
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 03:58:00 -
[183]
Quote:
I will say that I have a couple concerns about CFS regardless of Nicci's motivation
With 1500 players...why not go an overthrow one of the the other main geo-alliances? If they form again then overthrow them again....wouldnt that result in much more space realestate being available to more players?
Again, im just saying that sort of carebear alliance method would be more trustworthy....given it is not limited to one particular region and does not require a constant commitment....
But still it would violate the goals of the game developers.
Devs? care to comment?
Im curious, just what proof do you have that the goal of the Devs is to make us all fight all the time? I cant recall hearing anything like that before.
Also, how possible do you REALLY think it would be to go overthrow a whole alliance in their own territory 20+ jumps beyond our own production/supply areas, especially since you cant kill people, all you can do is destroy their ships. There are not even any permamnent installations to attack right now.
From what Ive seen from most big wars, what you end up with is over several weeks a couple of battleships get destroyed on each side untill everyone gets bored and moves on.
+++
It's called "low security space" for a reason. |
Drutort
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 04:55:00 -
[184]
OMG after 10 PAGES ON THIS THREAD STILL NO NAMESà you are becoming a major ass troll an this thread should be lockedà it has more flaming then a number of other threads put togetherà
I looked through all 10 pages ya long enough and im ****ed I see no names, you have wasted everyoneÆs time and made a big fool of your self, which could have been seen from page 2 and down ward.
This is another one of those dreaming 5 year olds that think they can be anyone and do anything and everything is free.
This game was built in the way that its working, and alliances will be acknowledged later on in the future, so I donÆt know what hell you are smoking Nicci and all those other anti alliance people. Zero sec was made to be taken and clamed and it will be later when more of the player owned content comes in, you can stay in the empire space throughout the life of eve, nobody will care but there is a lot of zero sec and IÆm more then sure that CCP had it planed for people to be able to work and save up and own some of there own space in the game.
Nicci you have stretched everyoneÆs patients I hope you donÆt show your face around in this thread without real evidence to prove ità
Remember the innocent donÆt have to prove that they are innocent, if they have not been charged with no crime, you have to prove someone to be guilty not the other way around, get a clue, you have no case at all vs CFS, all you have is personal opinion and speculation which isnÆt even worth 1 tri. You have ZERO PROOF of CFS doing any wrong and so far others out side of CFS have spoken that there are no problems, and seems that you are the only person around here, who doesnÆt get it.
Please just STFU and stop your lame trolling/bashing, I donÆt care what alliance it is if you donÆt have any proof, you shouldnÆt be posting stuff here because you are all the things that others have said then.
support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo
my MoBlog |
Bombkit
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 06:31:00 -
[185]
I don't think CFS will turn into a closed alliance. From what i'v seen as an outsider, they are a friendly group of people with no objection to anyone but grief pirates. They are actually doing the legitimate players of EVE a service. JK-FIX is defended by CFS and I enjoy going there because I can farm or mine rare minerals without any fear of getting poded by a band of pirate battleships. |
Varia
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 09:04:00 -
[186]
I am not a member of CFS, But I have to say great work CFS.
Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
Voss Matsu
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 09:19:00 -
[187]
I have never experienced any troubles with CFS and have only ever received best wishes from their pilots. Keep the work up, and keep the space free.
|
Miso
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 09:22:00 -
[188]
Feel the love CFS, feel the love!
I can't help thinking however, that all these regional alliances are just painting big targets for themselves...
and I like a challenge...
--------------------------------------------
Dead
|
Serge
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 10:27:00 -
[189]
Big thanks to the CFS navy for keeping the area as save as possible!
And gratulations for getting the a** of Janus :D
***********************************************
... "we suddenly have a good 2 dozen Chicken Littles running about proclaiming tha |
Kantar
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 11:19:00 -
[190]
ok i try to explain sumthing here:
1)CFS cant just close the khanid regoin or the surraunding,CFS work with a political structure as well as a military one,we got a Senate to decide and pass the bills,I personally dont think will never happen (unless another alliance declare war on us)that khanid will be close most of the senate will not approuve that.
2)Well you are saing that CFS is weak?
there are 60+ (half of it med-large)corp and another 4-5 military alliance corp in CFS I can assure you we got enough fire power to cope with any treat,but CFS was not create to wage war was create to let ALL the the corps mine and do theyr business in peace we do guard gates but only for pirate attack,if your member was attacked must be a reason for it,bcose i saw many times if we attack or mistake(sumtimes happen)person CFS have refonund the loss to the person.
So i will suggest b4 you start a crusade pls talk with the right ppl in CFS that deal with this kind of thing.
|
Yodaron Ballsithor
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 21:44:00 -
[191]
My corporation, Black Avatar, was one of the originators of the CFS. To say there were not pirates actively creating problems in JK-FIX before the alliance is pure insanity. I can easily give you 3 personal examples of that falsehood. Hence, the reason for the creation of the Confederation. DUH!!!
With respect to the remainder of this thread, I think Teister and others have dealt with the issues as best as can be done.
Rase, with regard to you, please read my response on the CFS forums. I am getting a bad feeling concerning you and your ultimate goals. Maybe you and your corp do not deserve membership in our Confederation. That is up to the Senate to decide; a Senate of which I am an active member. If your corporation receives membership, I suggest that it follow the policies and rules the Senate has laid down. From your writings, I am not sure if that will occur at all; and, if it does not, your corporation will not have membership for long. Yes, we have ejected members before and will continue to do so if they act inappropriately.
To my friends Ed and Bas, you are both dead on. There is no way to prove a negative. Just try proving a negative in a courtroom or anywhere else for that matter. It cannot be done.
One final comment: Nicci, and the others who seem to think we are going to close space or do some other rash act that will prevent them from mining in the area (i.e., Stain, Venal, Fountain, etc.). If you believe that, by all means show us your Cuhoonas! I can promise you this, the results you will encounter will not be to your liking. And for all of you that enjoy the protection CFS provides, as well as the freedom it allows to everyone that is not on the KOS list or vying for that particularly high status(i.e., including non-CFS members), come join with us in enjoying this game and the benefits it allows us to secure.
|
Blacklight
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 22:46:00 -
[192]
Quick post on this subject, we're not CFS members but frequent the Khanid area, the 0.0 space south of Khanid and Catch fairly frequently.
I've met some pretty good people down there, we've never had any hassle and it's one of the few area's that I haven't come across a load griefers.
So all power to CFS, good luck with their endeavours and to be honest if I see these whacko's shooting at CFS ships in the area I'll more than likely join in and it won't be CFS I'm shooting at.
Eve Blacklight Style
|
Mi Canio
|
Posted - 2003.09.25 23:16:00 -
[193]
Nicci u made me laugh out loud today at work - i nearly got in trouble.
Such backward logic....
As new members of CFS (I think anyway) our corp is very happy to be part of a decent coalition. Props especially to smallgreenblur for giving me back the money i accidentally transferred to his account. Some people would have taken the money and run but he gave it back to me straight away. Honest, decent and upstanding. That should be the CFS Alliance motto....
Ensign Mi Canio - MIL Div. - Combat Air Patrol
|
cball
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 01:38:00 -
[194]
Quote:
I don't think CFS will turn into a closed alliance. From what i'v seen as an outsider, they are a friendly group of people with no objection to anyone but grief pirates. They are actually doing the legitimate players of EVE a service. JK-FIX is defended by CFS and I enjoy going there because I can farm or mine rare minerals without any fear of getting poded by a band of pirate battleships.
I agree, even looking into moving to join them in their efforts to keep the region pker/griefer free.
...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
|
Jack Lebaue
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 03:07:00 -
[195]
*wonders if only I noticed Nicci changing alt to Deathbecomes*
The reason me and my brothers like CFS is that they are not anything like the other alliances allthough they prolly could compete well if they decided they wanted to. And why continue and reply to someone who seems to have the repeat button pushed in? She has been ranting the same things over and over again.. As someone stated prolly hoping that if she repeat it often enough it will be believed. Well he managed to convince himself so I give him that. Trying to talk to Nicci rationally is futile. Its pretty obvious he is to self involved in his own agenda to allow the oxygen go to his brain. To actually take in any facts.
I see no reasons to why CFS should even try and defend their alliance or Policy in here. Those of us that have had the pleasure of mining over there and meeting CFS members knowns this accusation to be nothing more then propaganda. So lets just leave it at that. The only people I actually see believing this are the ones that havent been in that area of space that much if even any sicne after CFS creation.
|
Jade Constantine
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 03:45:00 -
[196]
I think Nicci is actually due some sort of award or prize for ômost shameless self-bumping of oneÆs own thread.ö ItÆs certainly a piece of work, and more than a little bit surreal.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |
Agent Shield
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 10:20:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Agent Shield on 26/09/2003 10:20:09
PEOPLE!!!!!!
Don't you have any sympathy for your fellow players!!!!
Nicci has not posted in 2 days the proof that she says she was going to post. Last known where abouts was driving home and it shouldn't take long. That was on the 24th.
I fear something dreadful has happened to her in real life.
We should all take a short breath and remember our fallen comrade.............
BUT NICCI, if you are alive and did make it home to get your ....ing proof, where the hell is it? You made me read these 10 damn pages and you don't even follow up? Ok, you got me. *****. 
Agent Shield |
Torath
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 11:59:00 -
[198]
I have to agree with the view on here that the members of the CFS have opened up on more than one occation. While doing some Crokite mining I was running back in my Indy and was attacked by a member. The guys name was Porkins from the ore syndicate I think.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
|
Asmodia
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 12:35:00 -
[199]
Quote:
i am a member of the CFS navy, the only people we attack / chase down are pirates which come into the area.
Can u tell me what u call a 'pirate' ?
------------------------------------------------
CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
------------------------------------------------ |
Porkins
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 12:39:00 -
[200]
Torath,
You are mistaken my friend. When and where is this incident supposed to have occurred please?
|
Torath
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 13:14:00 -
[201]
Quote:
Torath,
You are mistaken my friend. When and where is this incident supposed to have occurred please?
I was in 0.0 about 5 jumps from A2, you and another member of your corp Pichian attacked me with no provocation. I lost over 500units of crokite.
I am an independent miner and needed my indi to make my living. Thanks to you and your corp I am now down over 1.5 mil.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
|
LoveOfOre
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 13:48:00 -
[202]
Edited by: LoveOfOre on 26/09/2003 14:14:35
Edited by: LoveOfOre on 26/09/2003 14:01:30
Quote:
Quote:
Torath,
You are mistaken my friend. When and where is this incident supposed to have occurred please?
I was in 0.0 about 5 jumps from A2, you and another member of your corp Pichian attacked me with no provocation. I lost over 500units of crokite.
I am an independent miner and needed my indi to make my living. Thanks to you and your corp I am now down over 1.5 mil.
Dude, check your mail. If you had lost a ship to one of our guys, we would have heard about it. Too funny though , you have given them and us something to talk about for some time! Stop griefing and come out behind the noob corp alt with a 0.0 sec and stop picking names out of local when sitting in space.
I mean hey, I can't blame pk's from being annoyed in JK-FIX or surrounding areas, but be real. My guess, and seeing when you wrote this up, I know for a fact one was rigged for mining and the other was in an indi at the time CFS was chasing a Dirus. Coincidence perhaps? Got a screen perhaps?
|
Porkins
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 13:55:00 -
[203]
Sorry Torath,
But that is simply NOT true. I have NEVER attacked another player without provocation. If you have evidence to prove your claim, please bring it forward, but I know you cannot, because I did not attack you !
I also find it hard to believe that another member of my corp attacked you without provocation, but obviously I cannot speak for them.
I find it distasteful that you should name me without providing proof, however, I am also a bigger man than that. When I log on tonight, I will post you your 1.5 million loss...
Complements of a wounded Porker.
|
Asna Shirina
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 14:23:00 -
[204]
CFS - Claim Free Space ?
|
Burrito NL
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 14:29:00 -
[205]
So what you are saying is, believe your word, that CFS has attacked innocent players over the experience of others that CFS has only attacked pirates?
If CFS has attacked innocents pls let them know, I am sure they will be very interested if some player went crazy and killed someone.
It is still an internetgame, ppl get killed however it is not CFS's intention to kill anyone else but pirates, so space is safe for everyone!
Just the fact that Stain started this way doesn't have to mean CFS will end up going the Stain way.
Simplicity is the key to genious |
Cardassius
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 14:29:00 -
[206]
ROFL ROFL
I haven't even seen proof in this whole damn thread ;)
To all the pretty trannies around, please delete your alts ;)
ASCI Recruiting! |
Big Al
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 14:54:00 -
[207]
CFS is Coalition of Free Systems/
Strange, before my corp joined the alliance, I was in the region that you speak. The CFS were nothing but courteous and had blockaded a gate to take out a M3G4 pirate. I was only in a cruiser and they said "Don't worry, we are preventing the pirate from leaving whilst we hunt him"
They have strict rules and this troll thread should be stopped. No proof, just rants.
Even Pirates can have positive security ratings you know.
'It is only when your life flashes before your eyes that you realise how much you have missed.'
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 15:15:00 -
[208]
As far as I know; Torath = alternate of Pychian Vanervi, a member of both CFS and O.R.E. Syndicate himself.
Looks like someone has some serious explaining to do about their trumped up accusations if they hope to avoid getting a serious booting from their corporation and alliance.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 15:49:00 -
[209]
heh.. You goy cann't even keep from firing on your own members.
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 15:53:00 -
[210]
Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 26/09/2003 15:53:44
Quote:
heh.. You goy cann't even keep from firing on your own members.
Come again? The point is nobody ever fired on him.
Torath is a known scammer - he has sold bookmarks to "hidden stations" which lead nowhere for millions, and offered modules for sale that don't exist.
I'm guessing this is just another in a long line of his antics and it will probably get him booted from his corporation and CFS - as they don't much tolerate behavior of this kind.
Much like you Nicci, he's lots of hot air without much substance.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Torath
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 15:55:00 -
[211]
Well it seemed everyone else gets to make ridiculous accusations it was my turn. No harm done except maybe a beating from my corp. CFS has done nothing but make Khanid and surrounding systems safe and bring a lot of good people together.
Porkins, only joking mate althought the offer of the 1.5mil would be nice.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 15:58:00 -
[212]
Quote:
As far as I know; Torath = alternate of Pychian Vanervi, a member of both CFS and O.R.E. Syndicate himself
Quote:
Torath is a known scammer - he has sold bookmarks to "hidden stations" which lead nowhere for millions, and offered modules for sale that don't exist.
So your telling me that you have a known scammer in your corp. Who can you belive.
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 16:01:00 -
[213]
Quote:
So your telling me that you have a known scammer in your corp.
Not anymore.
Quote:
Who can you believe.
Not sure who you can, but I can damn sure tell you two people you can't - Nicci and Torath.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Dworak
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 16:03:00 -
[214]
I cant see my Inbox flashing yet Nicci. Are you to busy trolling and flaming to send that mail with your evidence?
|
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 16:15:00 -
[215]
As for everyones list. I can't... All my friends you shot up are kinda ****ed at me they don't want me using there name and stories.
They make to much money to have there in that region. Names put up for CFS to target again. They plan to save there loggs and any evidence they have for when you guys decide to close the region or when they get a screenie. They don't believe you will do anything except make up some excuse that they thought he or she was a pirate. I don't know anyone that takes sceenshots everytime they are getting attacked.
I don't see how you can say CFS doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. They came in and decided to take control over the region. Its like saying your government or your local police force doesn't have to explain any of there actions to anyone.
Eve-Marshals are the only ones I see that do protection right. They have not claimed any region for their own. They will come to anyones aid and hunt down pirates in any region. You guys are just another Stain/Fountain/Venal with everything to hide. If Eve-Marshal were to join your ranks I would lose all respect for them.
Secondly. According to the rules I have to do personnal attacks, which I don't. I keep saying words like they, them, CFS, you guys, ect.. The only reason there is any Trolling or ranting or Flaming is from you guys. Perhaps it is your intent to do so, so that this thread gets locked and knowbody figures out what you all really are.
I am allowed to make accusations and tell people what I have seen happen, just as it is your right to defend yourself. Its just that you all can't do it without name calling or flaming. Which shows how hot headed your members are and easing to anger and shoot.
|
Tyr Bowman
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 16:25:00 -
[216]
I havent read the whole topic, but from what i've reaso so far CFS seem to be good people. Its not often you find alliances protecting innocent pilots as well as their own assets.
Nicci, stop being such a s**t stirrer!
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 16:25:00 -
[217]
Quote:
Which shows how hot headed your members are and easing to anger and shoot.
Hot headed? Angry? Shooting?
Wait, which one of us is calling for an all-out war on an otherwise peaceful regional alliance?
Ahh, that's right - it's you. I almost forgot.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 16:44:00 -
[218]
You can't even admit that you(meaning members of your allience maybe not you specificly) have fired apon and killed inocent ppl. Your excuse is they probably a pirate. Your right just because somebody has a good Sec-rating it doesn't mean they are not a pirate, by the way what is your rating? But it doesn't mean everyone with a good sec-rating that you don't know or have met is a pirate either.
I don't have to answer to you. But if you want to come to a place where everyone was happy beforehand and go and tag your alliences name all over it, makes it so people like myself are intitled to answers without prosucution as a criminal.
My grounds are hard to defend without hard proof, I know this I have said it many time. But, I only protect my "so call" friends. Who now most abandon me because they make to much money mining there and are afraid you will kill them and make them targets. Freelancers don't have the power to defend themsleves agianst a power hunger group of Corps. Most won't even come to anothers aid. They say they might as well mine and make as much as they can till they close off the region. The indies they have lost and the dmg done to some have already been repeared and replaced. But for now on they will make sceenshots and if will ONLY STOP COWERING when they get there hard evidence.
|
Veruna Caseti
|
Posted - 2003.09.26 17:09:00 -
[219]
Quote:
You can't even admit that you(meaning members of your allience maybe not you specificly) have fired apon and killed inocent ppl.
Well Nicci, any regional alliance that claims it can fully monitor and totally control the actions of every one of its members is fooling itself - it's an impossible task. If members of CFS did fire upon players who did absolutely nothing to provoke the agressive action then they did so in violation of the alliance rules.
If I'm not mistaken these situations are dealt with by request the offender's corporation remove him from their ranks; if they refuse the corporation itself faces expulsion from CFS.
However, how can you expect that we have constant knowledge of everything every player in every corporation in CFS is doing?
Point being they are actions of players, not an indication of some large sinister motive in the works among alliance members.
A war on CFS because of the actions of individual members (if such actions have in fact ever taken place) would be like fighting Police officers because some of them are corrupt. Is this really a sane solution?
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
JGR Miko
|
Posted - 2003.09.27 11:39:00 -
[220]
Edited by: JGR Miko on 27/09/2003 11:48:16
Nicci
First of, JGR is not part of the CFS alliance but we are active in other alliances with the same purpose as CFS:
To refrain small groups of pirates taking control of areas we believe should be free for all to take advantage of. We are currently working in the Y9G defense alliance which obviously is trying to keep Y9G and the surrounding systems open for traffic.
I have no outstanding with you, your corp or CFS.
What I do have is experience with some of the other controlled areas in EVE. I believe many have. Bringing Megacyte home from outpost mining and being robbed by mercs of a corp wanting to control all ore in a region... Ive tried that and frankly didnt think it was that funny. Or Sinister hitting some of our outposts in the space they claim because they didnt want to share the Bist.
CFS - their intentions seems proper enough. Its a coalition against piracy. Lawbringers protecting the free travel and the right for everyone to use JK-FIX region.
And they have not claimed the ressources in the region. They have taken on the task of defending the region. Which seems like more than you have yourself.
There is a difference, and its striking that you cant see it!
Its not an illusion at all. What I think is an illusion is the freedom you defend. What freedom is that? Do you expect that JK-FIX will be open space forever? With or without the CFS!
That is not going to happend. Once stations gets implemented in the game every corporation who isnt capable of taking on the large alliances in north and south regions will swarm to the JK-FIX.
If CFS is still there they will of course do what they can to divide the area between themselves (I think CFS could clarify their post station launch plans a bit). That IMO is a very natural development of the game concept.
So does it mean that CFS is some bad boys with some underlying agenda? I really dont see it that way.
If we want to withstand the larger corporations, we HAVE to unite. If you for one dont see that, or just dont like it, that have nothing to do with CFS. This topic is so massive and all it really is about is your believe in being a lonely corp is the best in a biig ass universe like EVE.
Once the stations come, and they will get here sometimes soon[tm], do you think Sinister or TTI will let you mine in their easily claimed JK-FIX region???
Ok thats my thoughts here comes my suggestion!
Nicci, if you are really worried why dont you try to JOIN the CFS!
That is the only real place you will ever get any influence on CFS at all. I dont know if youve stirred up the waters too much by now, but being on the outside is a waste of time. You cant take on the CFS and I honestly believe you could benefit alot from and to the alliance by being a part of it instead!
If what your saying about CFS is true, well believe me, it would be the same without CFS in the region. Only there wouldnt be a senate you could direct your complaints to!
And if its not, which the total lack of evidence suggests, well - then let it go.
If any community greater than two people was to operate from hearsay it would become chaos to say the least.
Im from europe and people here are innocent until proved otherwise, and that goes for large corporations/alliances as well.
Not great when you are the one without proof, or you dont dare to put it forward. But it have to be that way. Or soon there will be someone claiming that YOU podded them in front of the senate. No proof, but you will be dead anyway. That wouldnt be fair i think - do you?
|
Ange Noire
|
Posted - 2003.09.27 12:23:00 -
[221]
1) JGR ur sig rox
2) Someone allready noticed that is troll ?
3) I love the chocolate and it's my birthday
4) CFS helped me once, they never shot at me, and i'm not in their alliance.
5) How u can buy a module who don't exist ? noone do "show info" before accept the trade ?
6) never buy bookmarks
7) for myself: stop bother everybody with your stupid number
Cya.
PS (and off topic): i love u all, Eve ppl are on average the smarter communoty i've seen on MMO since a while. (and i played a huge number of MMOs, i mean nearly every who existed)
|
Blade Gunner
|
Posted - 2003.09.28 04:54:00 -
[222]
I have read the vitriol that is directed at CFS by some, and commend the defence and nuetrality of others. CFS are not an alliance of harsh words or threats, but one of civic deed to establish a free environment for those travellers that wish to trade / mine / visit the Khanid region. Pirate activity is actively repelled to the benefit of all who utilise the region. CFS dont own Khanid, but they wont allow Pirates to own it either.
Be sure to visit when you pass
To straight talk is free, smack talk can be very expensive. the choice is of course yours
. |
Cristian Rosseman
|
Posted - 2003.10.12 11:11:00 -
[223]
it aint only a troll anymore.. :(
It's a boring troll also :)
- Ascendancy Inc - - Corp Fun Level . |
Terion Ceravie
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 11:54:00 -
[224]
Nicci, its correct that JK-Fix had close to no podkills at the beginning of the game, as did most places. However, as gametime proceeds more and more people move into areas like JK-Fix. The more people that use that area, the more attractive it becomes to pirates. Regardless of CFS presence and protection of Khanid and JK-Fix its obvious that as more and more freelancers and Corporations use the area, the number of podkills and unfriendly fire will increase.
I cannot understand how you fail to see that.
Its also obvious that the number of podkills in the area will increase with CFS present. This is because the pirates that podkill freelancers and non CFS corps/CFS corps will be hunted by the CFS. The number of pirates that CFS kill makes the JK-Fix region safer for freelancers and non pirate Corporations that use the area for mining and npc hunting.
I cannot understand how you fail to see that.
If you, Nicci, start to attack friendly players, miners and NPC hunters then you contribute to increasing the numbers of fatalitys in the JK-Fix region.
The CFS has no other intentions then to keep Khanid and the 0.0 regions around Khanid protected from pirates, so that friendly freelances, Corporations and CFS members can use the area in the safest possible way.
The CFS will react to any piracy in this area, whether such piracy is commited against CFS members or friendly non-CFS members.
The fact that you havent provided any proof that your friends have been targeted and killed or in any way done unjustice to by CFS forces, not even mentioned the names of the attackers, leads me to believe that you are nothing more then an alt doing unfounded propaganda. You have had yer 15 minutes of fame Nicci, it is getting old.
If by chanse you are not an alt and have been using the Khanid and JK-Fix area for your business, then I hope that you wont start to commit the piracy acts you stated you would, but go about with your business as usual. I understand that with the war going its not as easy and safe as it was, and I understand that this can be frustrating to many freelancers that have been operating in JK-Fix previous to the war.
I asure you however, that the CFS forces will do everything in their power to keep freelancers, miners and travellers as safe as possible in the areas mentioned, even with the war going.
Terion Ceravie
CFS Alliance
|
voogru
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 12:07:00 -
[225]
Quote:
All of you who are not CFS on this thread say so. So your cans will live throught the night.
Hint: Secure cans have 10000000+ hit points, It will take you a week to kill a single can.
-------
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |
Viceroy
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 12:39:00 -
[226]
i believe it takes about 15-30 minutes with 1-2 battleships with good firepower (aka tachyons)
-
|
Scragg
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 12:58:00 -
[227]
Its the Coalition of FREE stars. Just like the Curse Coalition they keep their space free, open and safe.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
Vice-Director Military Operations |
NGRU Vulture
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 14:58:00 -
[228]
Quote:
Quote:
hire another alliance to wipe em out.
lol I will not take one evil to kill another evil. The region should be free.
I have seen very little about them. They have kept quite hoping nobody but the ones already there would take notice of there grasp.
Gehi should be free. You are not the Emperior.
Nicci all i see that you not listen to other and only keep saying let kill, let kill, let kill as it been sad before CFS neer claim any space all it do is patroling, guarding space for rest of players who willing to mine and do bussines without afriade to be blown up by PKillers and pirates, space under CFS free for all lawfull players, miners, traders, hunters always been like this.
Diplomacy it art of saing "good dogy" until you can find a big rock. |
nails
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 15:56:00 -
[229]
CFS has done a good job keeping JK-FIX an open region. It is very difficult for them to track down pirates at time. I've run into countless solo pirates in the bottleneck of JK-FIX. Most of them have a 0.0 security rating, are the only member in their own corp etc.. It's very difficult when a bunch of support ships warp into a camped system, especially when they have not been given enough information about who destroyed them. Because of this unique situation in JK-FIX it is inevitable that innocent players get attacked by accident. In most cases this is because of lack of information after a player/indy is attacked.
I can't say too much on how they run their show since I am not part of CFS. What I see happening here are people trying to back CFS into a corner about meaningless mistakes made from time to time. If everyone keeps pushing and pushing all your going to get is CFS locking everyone out of the region accept members. I think many of you should lighten up your grip. There are many other alliances out there that do not even bother to help non alliance members that are attacked in their region (because those non members shouldn't be in the region to begin with).
Now for pirate corps they don't really need a reason to attack anyone cause they are pirates. It's up to CFS to get things organized and defend their own region from such attacks.
------------------
http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level
|
James Hawkings
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 16:07:00 -
[230]
hell yeah nails.
the guy who started this thread seems like a alt that is just here to **** people off. i dont' see what peoples beef with cfs is. they've always let me move around jk-fix, and even saved my ass on more than one occasion. i wouldn't mind it if they fight more pirates cause sinister and some others have been running my buddies from their mining spots.
~Built Hauler Tough~
~Dazed and Confused Currently~ |
Nicci
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 16:25:00 -
[231]
Quote:
hell yeah nails.
the guy who started this thread seems like a alt that is just here to **** people off. i dont' see what peoples beef with cfs is. they've always let me move around jk-fix, and even saved my ass on more than one occasion. i wouldn't mind it if they fight more pirates cause sinister and some others have been running my buddies from their mining spots.
Come over and visit the Residence of Tash-Murkon and ask them if I am an alt.
|
Koda
|
Posted - 2003.10.17 16:40:00 -
[232]
CFS very vigorously defends Jk-Fix and doesn't care for known pirates (positive sec. rating or not.
I like seeing a CFS BS camping a gate who offers a greeting and tip of the hat as we pass through. Much better than being fired upon.
--------------
Share the love in the SNIGG Forums
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: [one page] |