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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.06.04 18:35:00 -
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I don't really see why people are so peeved about 'dictors. We're talking about a 20-30 million isk ship with the structural integrity of wet paper that does basically the same thing as a t1 frigate carrying a warp bubble (I know, I know, there are tactical differences, but those mostly apply to fleet battles. Gate camping is almost always better served by warp bubbles than by interdictors). I mean, they're not "I win" ships by a long shot. A few days ago I was running some cargo around in a Kestrel and jumped into a 'dictor bubble camp (inty + 'dictor + something larger). I was able to MWD out of range of the bubble (yay web, slowing that inty down just enough!) and get away with about 80% armor remaining. And if I can do it in a slow-a** t1 frigate with just a MWD & web, then anyone can.
The Red Mom of WarÖ
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.06.04 18:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
I don't really see why people are so peeved about 'dictors. We're talking about a 20-30 million isk ship with the structural integrity of wet paper that does basically the same thing as a t1 frigate carrying a warp bubble (I know, I know, there are tactical differences, but those mostly apply to fleet battles. Gate camping is almost always better served by warp bubbles than by interdictors). I mean, they're not "I win" ships by a long shot. A few days ago I was running some cargo around in a Kestrel and jumped into a 'dictor bubble camp (inty + 'dictor + something larger). I was able to MWD out of range of the bubble (yay web, slowing that inty down just enough!) and get away with about 80% armor remaining. And if I can do it in a slow-a** t1 frigate with just a MWD & web, then anyone can.
That you survived a noobcamp isnt weird, a inty would mwd rightaway speed up to 4 km/s and than while you web it, it webs you and scrambles you aswell. Not to mention by the time you decloacked the guns/missiles from the interdictor will be firing, you will take a lot of damage.
I survived jump-in from empire to 0.0 in a hauler they had 8 bs and tacklers, does that make bs crap, no the pilots are just crap.
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:02:00 -
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Nothing wrong with interdictors, personally i always get into an empty jump clone before going to 0.0 
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Scarlet Pimpernel
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Posted - 2006.06.05 10:13:00 -
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Since we're on the subject would someone mind explaining how the probes work?
Is it like scan probes in that your just fire them with no target (in which case how do you know where the bubble will be?) or is the bubble created around the 'dictor ship (so you're stuck in the centre)
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.05 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 05/06/2006 10:22:52
Originally by: Scarlet Pimpernel
Since we're on the subject would someone mind explaining how the probes work?
Is it like scan probes in that your just fire them with no target (in which case how do you know where the bubble will be?) or is the bubble created around the 'dictor ship (so you're stuck in the centre)
dropped like a scan probe. of couse, it means the dictor has to get out of his bubble before being able to warp off, but there are other solutions to that in this thread 
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..SP loss
If you go into 0.0 without an up-to-date clone, you deserve to get podded and lose skills. If your clone was up-to-date and you still lost skills, petition it and you'll get them back.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.06.05 10:31:00 -
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Interdictors are fine.
Interdictors with huggin support is a sploitz 
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Semkhet
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Posted - 2006.06.05 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
I don't really see why people are so peeved about 'dictors. We're talking about a 20-30 million isk ship with the structural integrity of wet paper that does basically the same thing as a t1 frigate carrying a warp bubble (I know, I know, there are tactical differences, but those mostly apply to fleet battles. Gate camping is almost always better served by warp bubbles than by interdictors). I mean, they're not "I win" ships by a long shot. A few days ago I was running some cargo around in a Kestrel and jumped into a 'dictor bubble camp (inty + 'dictor + something larger). I was able to MWD out of range of the bubble (yay web, slowing that inty down just enough!) and get away with about 80% armor remaining. And if I can do it in a slow-a** t1 frigate with just a MWD & web, then anyone can.
Your tactic was succesfull only because your opponents either had crap skills, low quality gear, or a mix of both. You webbed the inty (engaged as interdictor support) while he did'n web you ? And you believe that you faced competent players ?
Besides dropping spheres, Interdictors may fly over 4 Km/sec and don't have the ROF penalty afflicting their T1 counterpart.
Therefore I kindly advise you not to draw conclusions based on a single interaction with a mickey mouse camp...
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.06.05 12:03:00 -
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Don't whine about interdictors look at it this way: if something other then an inty or a hauler warps into the bubble it's dead
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Scarlet Pimpernel
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Posted - 2006.06.05 20:20:00 -
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How are you supposed to fit the disrupt probe launcher anyway, it needs a huge amount of CPU and I dont see any reductions to CPU use on the ship or the skills
What am I missing?
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.06.05 20:23:00 -
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Hidden bonus for dictors. It needs only 100CPU to fit launcher
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Pointless Vengence
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Posted - 2006.06.05 20:31:00 -
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Are interdectors scary? Yep . . . BUT
It has given players a reason to fit Smartbombs which can bring a sphere down in one pulse . . . thus making useful what was once . . .
-Pointless
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.06.05 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 04/06/2006 16:44:36
Assumption - that the combats were at a gate. They were not.
Deva Blackfire, can you provide a link to where it's declared an exploit? Thanks!
Intentional disco for personal gain has been considered an exploit in pretty much every online game I've played.
Also, if you want a really priceless moment, try the interdictor pilot that bubbled himself in a panic in M-O - two of us in inties attacked a lone interdictor, who just managed to get a bubble out before he died. And yes, we podded him for his trouble and went along our merry way.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.06.05 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Also, if you want a really priceless moment, try the interdictor pilot that bubbled self in panic ... who just managed to get a bubble out before died.....
Weirda have done that to self... 
bubble now assigned to f-12 instead of right next to other weapon...
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Weirda
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.06.05 21:51:00 -
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Noobish q... can you actually assign stuff to F9-F12 keys? 
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.06.05 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Semkhet
Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
Yadda yadda about surviving a 'dictor camp
Your tactic was succesfull only because your opponents either had crap skills, low quality gear, or a mix of both. You webbed the inty (engaged as interdictor support) while he did'n web you ? And you believe that you faced competent players ?
Well, I can't make any claims about those campers competence, but it seemed like a good arguement against the folks who claim that interdictors are unfairly strong. If they were, then even a poor camp would have no problem taking out ships. My main point is that they're really not much more, tactically, than a frigate carrying a bubble when it comes to gate camps.
And for the record, the inty did web me, it just didn't web me until I was just leaving the bubble - which, I think, just gave me a nice boost into warp
The Red Mom of WarÖ
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Jin Masaru
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Posted - 2006.06.06 05:28:00 -
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Perhaps CCP should install a delay system whereby players cannot post on the forums for an hour after losing a ship/pod. That way people can cool down a bit and we will have alot less teary eyed posts about how such and such is too powerful.
Just relax. You'll be fine. Interdictors are nowhere near overpowered, they just perform their role well.
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