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fisty
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:14:00 -
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lo folks, i was wondering if we are going to see the fight of the titans in these eve days...literally...
ascn kicked major ass down south, bob spanked fix"as far as i understand it"
as these two entitites in eve are well the most massive once and apparently most succesfull once im wondering if they ever will be going to war and show their toys..."here comes the titan bit", maybe they will reveale having one or somethign on both sides...
so here is the questien
Do you think we will see a big crash between ASCN and BoB?
my hopes...YES, not because i hate either of the two entity i have great respect for both in different matters, it would be just nice to see how the outcome would be etc...
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:17:00 -
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ASCN and BoB... more like BoB and D2 imo.
As D2 has many former G, and G showed ASCN a few lessons in fleet combat a few months back.
Although D2 are yet to flex their full muscle, and to some degree BoB too.
So not only would it be a battle between the two, it'd be a test of their full capabilties.
I for one hope it happens, because there would be some of the most skillful, tactical battles Eve has ever seen. Some great videos.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:18:00 -
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I can't think of anything more boring than trying to take ascn space. There has to be hundreds of PoS's fuelling those outposts, backed up by over 3000 players. It would take months of complete dedication.
ASCN are good to toy with but only an internal split will bring them down.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jebidus Skari I can't think of anything more boring than trying to take ascn space. There has to be hundreds of PoS's fuelling those outposts, backed up by over 3000 players. It would take months of complete dedication.
ASCN are good to toy with but only an internal split will bring them down.
to quote a freind of mine:
Lock down ascn space and watch the pos drop like flies
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jebidus Skari I can't think of anything more boring than trying to take ascn space. There has to be hundreds of PoS's fuelling those outposts, backed up by over 3000 players. It would take months of complete dedication.
ASCN are good to toy with but only an internal split will bring them down.
Once (ever?) the ability to shoot outposts to skeletons of their former selves someone will go after ASCN if only to see billions upon billions of ISK get blown up.
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Trina Tron
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:26:00 -
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You wont ever see a fight of the titans because titans suck nuts atm. They cost 50b but it only takes about 11 battleships to break ones tanks where as it takes 32 to break a dreads tank. If ccp fixes it so a stupidly small amount of players canĘt kill a titan then maybe people will bother to build them.
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EvilWezal
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:33:00 -
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/me sits down on the huge pile of POS fuels
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Jebidus Skari I can't think of anything more boring than trying to take ascn space. There has to be hundreds of PoS's fuelling those outposts, backed up by over 3000 players. It would take months of complete dedication.
ASCN are good to toy with but only an internal split will bring them down.
to quote a freind of mine:
Lock down ascn space and watch the pos drop like flies
can you? -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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The Armin
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: The Armin on 04/06/2006 19:54:49 D2 or ASCN vs. BoB ? Who's gonna win ? Lag. =P
I seriously wonder how a battle between any of these would go down considering the lag in 9cg with 400 people in local. A major battle between any of these entities would atleast double the number of pilots in 9cg.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.06.04 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Jebidus Skari I can't think of anything more boring than trying to take ascn space. There has to be hundreds of PoS's fuelling those outposts, backed up by over 3000 players. It would take months of complete dedication.
ASCN are good to toy with but only an internal split will bring them down.
to quote a freind of mine:
Lock down ascn space and watch the pos drop like flies
can you?
everything is possible in eve, dont be overconfident. Remember huge alliances like FA and CA went down over time. Often enough its not a strong direct impact but a slow process of attrition taking even the hugest powers down.
Not even to mention internal struggles, civilwars or betrayal.
To answer you question, atm highly unlikely in the future as possible as every other scenario.
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Johnny Wulgaru
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Posted - 2006.06.04 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: fisty lo folks, i was wondering if we are going to see the fight of the titans in these eve days...literally...
ascn kicked major ass down south, bob spanked fix"as far as i understand it"
as these two entitites in eve are well the most massive once and apparently most succesfull once im wondering if they ever will be going to war and show their toys..."here comes the titan bit", maybe they will reveale having one or somethign on both sides...
so here is the questien
Do you think we will see a big crash between ASCN and BoB?
my hopes...YES, not because i hate either of the two entity i have great respect for both in different matters, it would be just nice to see how the outcome would be etc...
The timing of this post is very interesting.
A little birdy tells me you're about to get your wish. 
So sez Johnny~~
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.06.04 20:07:00 -
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Weren't D2 the same people who let the Trust outpost slide, what changed in their favor?
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.06.04 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron Weren't D2 the same people who let the Trust outpost slide, what changed in their favor?
They now how the power of mis-information on their side
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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.06.04 20:40:00 -
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a pos war would be a long and boring campaign, would take some willpower and resources to grind down each station system. best bet would be sleepers who could offline all the pos in a coordinated strike imo rather than a frontal assault alone. Though once you get your foot in the door its easier. However key regions like stain/delve/fountain/pb have a lot of npc stations in which for both sides give an automatic base of ops if the regions are locked down and your own stations begin to fall or you need a safe haven to launch an invasion from. Game mechanics wise the pos reinforced mode never helps ofc with timing a fleet to be availible and only takes 1 cyno at the pos to jump in a carrier with more stront for eg.
In the end you have to ask would it be worth it and what you would do once you have captured all the stations. There is no great reason to have 1 region over another though some are better than others ofc and with eight more regions on the way its not exactly overly crowded out there if you look at the map.
If only empire was 0.0 heh 
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.06.04 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Jebidus Skari I can't think of anything more boring than trying to take ascn space. There has to be hundreds of PoS's fuelling those outposts, backed up by over 3000 players. It would take months of complete dedication.
ASCN are good to toy with but only an internal split will bring them down.
to quote a freind of mine:
Lock down ascn space and watch the pos drop like flies
can you?
everything is possible in eve, dont be overconfident. Remember huge alliances like FA and CA went down over time. Often enough its not a strong direct impact but a slow process of attrition taking even the hugest powers down.
Not even to mention internal struggles, civilwars or betrayal.
To answer you question, atm highly unlikely in the future as possible as every other scenario.
exactly my point being honest here, and a thought of someone that has been playing EVE for almost 2 and a half years, I can say that what is impossible now, is likely to become common place in it's due time. As history taught us, every empire had it's rise, it's moments of grandeur, and it's fall. Can happen to BoB, can happen to ASCN, can happen to everybody. Sooner or later. Later in both the first cases I said above. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.06.04 20:59:00 -
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Its CLASH of the titans! And i think it would be BoB vrs D2 and friends, either in bob space or d2 space.
Another one would be BoB attackin ASCN space, i can Imagine ASCN just constantly throwing ships at them. I think they could possibly hold thier space, maybe not forever, but a very long while, with alot of blood spilt.
ASCN vrs BoB in bob space would be a peice of cake for BoB i think, ASCN havent got what it takes to invade a region held by a very strong foe. No EC does not count. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith |

Feterous Jolin
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:09:00 -
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If there were to be a D2, BoB, ASCN fight i firmly believe that two of the three would have to NAP. Because while two of the major powers were throwing themselves at each other, i firmly believe that the other major entity would just sit back and watch. Why not take advantage of the situation?
It -could- happen. But will it happen. Not anytime soon.
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ArcticFox
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: ArcticFox on 04/06/2006 21:20:59
Originally by: Darko1107 Its CLASH of the titans! And i think it would be BoB vrs D2 and friends, either in bob space or d2 space.
Another one would be BoB attackin ASCN space, i can Imagine ASCN just constantly throwing ships at them. I think they could possibly hold thier space, maybe not forever, but a very long while, with alot of blood spilt.
Replace the word "ships" with the words "dozens and dozens of carriers worth of fighters" and you've got it about right. -------------------------- What to do about High Sec Suicide piracy... |

Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:20:00 -
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if you aren't a roid, d2 will not harm you
deidranna
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:20:00 -
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I think ASCN is anticipating something by BoB, or otherwise gearing up for factional warfare to destabilize their region - Tribal Souls got crushed quickly when they impeded ASCN's progress. From my perspective they're a gem in the south, rich and strong, but if internal circumstances in the area erupt into war, BoB could see its chance at destroying a weakened target and the best equipped opponent it might have. From there...
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fisty
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107 Its CLASH of the titans! And i think it would be BoB vrs D2 and friends, either in bob space or d2 space.
Another one would be BoB attackin ASCN space, i can Imagine ASCN just constantly throwing ships at them. I think they could possibly hold thier space, maybe not forever, but a very long while, with alot of blood spilt.
ASCN vrs BoB in bob space would be a peice of cake for BoB i think, ASCN havent got what it takes to invade a region held by a very strong foe. No EC does not count.
its fights of the titans cuz i say its so as i made the post
on a more serious notice,
as some1 else said i dont see ascn to be an agressor if something like this would develop more likely bob i guess to keep themself and the eve community entertained, which would be very entertaining indeed i would say
i guess d2 could also be put in the picture of such titanic event if it happens, as their very capable bunch of guys, heck they have ze germans effiency backing them up 
you guys think if any such major event would happen neutral industry powerhouses like for example ISS or the big blue would, kinda supsidies a faction over the other to gain something from it? or just stay on their merry way?
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Johnny Wulgaru
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Feterous Jolin If there were to be a D2, BoB, ASCN fight i firmly believe that two of the three would have to NAP. Because while two of the major powers were throwing themselves at each other, i firmly believe that the other major entity would just sit back and watch. Why not take advantage of the situation?
It -could- happen. But will it happen. Not anytime soon.
I'm curious. What's your definition of "soon"? 
So sez Johnny~~
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Jesus
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jesus on 04/06/2006 21:36:32 to be honest we have reached a true cold war period of eve you have 3 main power blocks
BOB ASCN D2
^^ in no perticular order
each one has billions and billions in reserve and the isk to fund non stop war for well over 6 months but is it worth it. Lets say BOB attack ASCN, G/IRON tried it a few months back and yes they had better kill ratio but they managed to take 1 system and outpost for less than a week, ASCN has a lot of land and a lot of outpost that need to be taken so i think that a war against ASCN will take over 6 months and cost the attacking side a lot of isk, Yes you may take over ASCN space but at what cost.
So lets say BOB take over ASCN space it takes them 9 months to fully take all the outpost and land (remeber we have 3 fully developed regoins to take over). how much has this cost BOB as an alliance it is going to take billions and billions countless ships will be lost on both sides. Now BOB is weak D2 decide to take on BOB and with BOB being in the weakened state cannot hold onto they land and start loosing a war against D2.
or another way it would go down is BOB attack ASCN space and D2 come straight out and attack BOB in they space this leavs BOB fighting a war against 2 very large and powerful alliances on 2 different fronts, i know BOB are good but I cant see them taking ASCN space and still fighting D2 this would over stretch the alliance and cause it to strain at the fabric that makes up the alliance.
I personally think that all 3 allainces have no plans to have a full out attack at this time as attacking would prob cause more problems than it solves and also allows 1 alliance to gain more isk and recourses while the other 2 are fighting.
There will be a big war between ASCN - BOB - D2 when will it be? who knows where will i be? right in the middle of the action will it be good? F-ing yes
edited for spelling and trying to make it sound cohearent but i think i have failed on both
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cpskatan
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Posted - 2006.06.04 21:58:00 -
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if the coalation Lv, V, Chimps continue to work together and they might get bored now that RED's of the map, they can make some good burst damage to any alliance |

HypnotiX
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Posted - 2006.06.04 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: HypnotiX on 04/06/2006 22:09:20
Originally by: cpskatan if the coalation Lv, V, Chimps continue to work together and they might get bored now that RED's of the map, they can make some good burst damage to any alliance
Signed! down underestimate the combined force of LV/V/Chimp, tbh they are as strong as the other 3 major entitys mentioned.
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Zhaine
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Posted - 2006.06.04 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: cpskatan if the coalation Lv, V, Chimps continue to work together and they might get bored now that RED's of the map, they can make some good burst damage to any alliance
Not to speak ill of ourselves but RA are far from done for. And I doubt anyone in those alliances is up for another POS war any time soon. And you forgot KOS. But cheers. . . I'm thinking coalition at least figures alongside entities like BoB and ASCN in this discussion. - - - - - - - - - -
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Markie
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Posted - 2006.06.04 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Jebidus Skari I can't think of anything more boring than trying to take ascn space. There has to be hundreds of PoS's fuelling those outposts, backed up by over 3000 players. It would take months of complete dedication.
ASCN are good to toy with but only an internal split will bring them down.
to quote a freind of mine:
Lock down ascn space and watch the pos drop like flies
Dude, it's impossible to lock down any hostile if they have 3 things.
Cynos alts. carriers. and an insentive.
People can jump carriers with fuel all day long and the only way to stop it is to kill the pos and hold the stations giving them no where safe to jump to.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2006.06.04 22:43:00 -
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D2 V BOB will happen... its only a matter of time imo.
d solo.
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.06.04 23:10:00 -
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A few small fights the other day in Outer ring between said forces.
Nothing to wave flags and sing songs about yet tho ^^ ___________________________________ PvP addict. Send me a mail In-game for access to Alumni NRG Recruiting |

Mtthias Clemi
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Posted - 2006.06.04 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 04/06/2006 23:23:26
Originally by: Tadis ASCN and BoB... more like BoB and D2 imo.
As D2 has many former G, and G showed ASCN a few lessons in fleet combat a few months back.
Wait that doesent sound right!
Originally by: Jesus Lets say BOB attack ASCN, G/IRON tried it a few months back and yes they had better kill ratio but they managed to take 1 system and outpost for less than a week,
Ah thats better........
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